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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...premium-price-still-comes-with-compromises/1/
Check out the video on the 2nd page, "n our experience, the Nexus 6 was slower than the Nexus 5. Apps took longer to launch, tasks took longer to switch, and sometimes—particularly during heavy multitasking—our Nexus 6 liked to get stuck and pause for a few minutes while it thought about things. It would often "chug" during our normal usage and in general felt like a slow device.
Above is a video of the Nexus 6 (running Lollipop) versus its predecessor, the Nexus 5 (running KitKat). We're just simultaneously launching apps on each device. This is the simplest and best of tests, pitting all the hardware and software of the Nexus 5 against the Nexus 6. As you can see in the video, the Nexus 6 is continually a few beats behind the Nexus 5, and this is just a light workload of launching a few apps. Heavier workloads, like launching a 3D game, give the Nexus 5 a multi-second victory over the Nexus 6.
In our video, both devices have just been restarted, clearing anything that would be in RAM. The versions on all of the apps match."
I might consider go back to the Nexus 5 I sold...
Two things that are different by default in the N5 and N6. Lollipop devices are encrypted by default, and Lollipop only uses ART. Good chance some apps weren't optimized for it yet.
Interesting
I am looking for another reviewer who tested the speed of the flash but haven't found any. Maybe a bad device? Or the encryption. Can we confirm for sure the 5.0 devices are encrypted?
That is the only item in any of the reviews that made me pause.
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Two things that are different by default in the N5 and N6. Lollipop devices are encrypted by default, and Lollipop only uses ART. Good chance some apps weren't optimized for it yet.
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From memory, most of the apps shown were Google's main apps.
Nevertheless, I'm very confused/torn by those results.
Its a very pessimistic review
The review says that it's probably down to the slow read speed of the internal memory. In their read/write tests, the read speeds were slower than the Nexus 5 by about a third and much slower than the Note 4 and Moto X (which were around 3 times as fast). They said that games take as long to load as they do on a Nexus 4.
Anand Tech Review found something similar.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review
To test NAND performance on the Nexus 6 we attempted to use Androbench and Andebench, but both gave results that could not have been accurate and so we are unfortunately unable to test this aspect of the Nexus 6 at this time.
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Boot time is also god awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE4GCLP7rk
Is it pessimistic or realistic, that is the real question.
So many devices come out with so many claims, then you grab it, get it, and inevitably find out that it's a hunk of junk. I'm on the fence right now of either swapping my G3 for one, or keeping the G3.
everyone of the reviews all say something different. Some say they love the phone and it is great some say the phone is bad. There is so much different information. Look at some of the reviews of the camera. Some of great pictures and some have bad pictures. I have no clue what to trust and what not to trust. I will be waiting until I can play with the phone and see then. Remember not all the apps are upgraded to work with 5.0 yet. So once apps start getting ART support they would be a lot better. Also we have no clue what version of Android the nexus 6 in this review has compared to the version of android that will be on the shipping Nexus 6. I for one will most likely still buy the Nexus 6 because I was the support of the devs on a nexus phone. Plus remember when CM comes to the next, all of these problems could be gone.
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Boot time is also god awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zE4GCLP7rk
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I don't know if you are being serious or trolling.
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Is it pessimistic or realistic, that is the real question.
So many devices come out with so many claims, then you grab it, get it, and inevitably find out that it's a hunk of junk. I'm on the fence right now of either swapping my G3 for one, or keeping the G3.
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After owning the M8, G3, S5 and recently the 2014 Moto X, I can say the best phone through and through is the HTC M8...they just nailed it on every front...Cyanogen on the M8 will probably run a lot better than the Nexus 6 does stock (if AOSP is your thing)...I doubt the growing pains the Nexus 6 may be having will last long though...expect google to release quick patches (5.01, 5.02, 5.1, etc etc)....lastly, encryption does not slow mobile phones down like this.
Nothing cm and a custom kernel won't fix for this beast though.
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I don't know if you are being serious or trolling.
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Guess I'm not entirely sure where your confusion is coming from or what you find potentially trollish about that.
What is wrong with his video? Nexus 6 is obviously ALOT slower...This is very sad, I was expecting it to be faster than any phone.
I will have to wait till I try it in Store
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After owning the M8, G3, S5 and recently the 2014 Moto X, I can say the best phone through and through is the HTC M8...they just nailed it on every front...Cyanogen on the M8 will probably run a lot better than the Nexus 6 does stock (if AOSP is your thing)...I doubt the growing pains the Nexus 6 may be having will last long though...expect google to release quick patches (5.01, 5.02, 5.1, etc etc)....lastly, encryption does not slow mobile phones down like this.
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SO why so slow? Im truly concerned about this....
Omg I think nexus 6 is slower than my htc amaze!
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Guess I'm not entirely sure where your confusion is coming from or what you find potentially trollish about that.
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It's a boot time. Posting a video about how fast a phone starts is just nitpicking a phone that just came out. I really don't see how a boot time makes the phone less desirable imho.
It isn't that I think a slow boot is much of an issue itself. I brought it up because I think it adds another data point or degree of confirmation to the slow app loading demonstrated in the ars review.
Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
Would be good if the 910G snapdragon variant actually got lollipop....
**** Samsung, getting iPhone 6 soon if LP is not released anytime soon!
Mate that's a crazy thing to say... I would still prefer 4.4 then own another iphone
Agreed, at least some info would be nice. I'm running lollipop on a few of my other devices now, the note 4 is lagging behind
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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I'm over Samsung ... I never even hardly use the damn pen anymore anyway. I promise myself I will not be back again. This BS with a million models and other crud... NO GOOD SAMSUNG!
oh stop bull****ting .
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
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Hoping for honesty from the PR arm of an international chaebol is like nicely asking a stone if it wouldn't mind bleeding a bit. It also assumes that they are even remotely interested in providing these kinds of updates, that they communicate with the developers, and that they have that information in the first place. They've done their job already - you've bought a Note 4, so why should they care? Besides which, if they've already stated a timeframe previously, and been unable to meet it, they're going to be very cautious about announcing anything else apart from "it'll be ready when it's ready", and even that is unlikely compared to simply remaining silent.
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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This is totally true....why get a device like the Note 4 if you are ok with Gingerbread...I don't understand people who get such a good phone and don;t know how to eve use it...but rather use it for calls and messages only...
airwa1kin7 said:
Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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I sincerely hope this post is a joke; if I merely cared about apps I'd own an iPhone.
I bought a 800€ smartphone i espect to have the lastest and best software. Thats why so many people is going from android to iOS. If you have a iPhonne 6+ you have the lastest iOS. Next time a change smartphonne i am going to think twice before have Android or iOS, and for me Nexus line are no option, ugly and overrated. For me Samsung or HTC or LG (this two allready have 5.0 Lolipop)
I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.
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I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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why i want lollipop and Samsung to treat us better
based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
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based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
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iPhone are great for fluidity and fast updates, but they lack the customization and freedom that android offers even with Jailbreak.
Also , I don't know if you need glasses or not, but the note 4 camera beats the iPhone any day in good light situations...both in photos and videos.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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Yeah I didn't have major problems but the battery is worse and it just wasn't as smooth and quick as it was on kitkat. I didn't have the app redraws that others had but I put that down to a full wipe before and after the update.
Everything seems slower. The phone struggles when scrolling. Maybe I need to change to iPhone for buttery performance.
How could google release this update for Nexus 4 if users are going to be met with performance issues?
Or just get a new phone seeing as the Nexus 4 is over 3 years old now...I'd wait until 5.1 comes out and then see how it goes but there is always going to be issues supporting old hardware with new OS's
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Everything seems slower. The phone struggles when scrolling. Maybe I need to change to iPhone for buttery performance.
How could google release this update for Nexus 4 if users are going to be met with performance issues?
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''Maybe I need to change to iPhone for buttery performance''.
Please delete your account, looks like you have absolutely nothing to do here.
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Everything seems slower. The phone struggles when scrolling. Maybe I need to change to iPhone for buttery performance.
How could google release this update for Nexus 4 if users are going to be met with performance issues?
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Wow, a minority of users have performance issues on a DEVELOPER phone, must be issue with Google then
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''Maybe I need to change to iPhone for buttery performance''.
Please delete your account, looks like you have absolutely nothing to do here.
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Sorry if this offended you. I swear I'm not apple representative, nor do I own iPhone. I speak out of my experience of hearing my friends around me talking.
I really find that android 5.1 made the nexus 4 buttery smooth again
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Everything seems slower. The phone struggles when scrolling. Maybe I need to change to iPhone for buttery performance.
How could google release this update for Nexus 4 if users are going to be met with performance issues?
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Least expensive solution is to clean flash the 4.3 factory image and profit! And don't even move to kitkat. Seriously, not kidding.
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Don't forger it's not the official 5.1 update. But with lastest Euphoria and my HD with TARDIS, I have 29500 on Antutu and my N4 fly thx Google for this release
Why don't you post your problems in the thread that already exists for discussing Android 5.x?
Official 5.1 will make our beloved Nexus 4 fly like never before. Battery life may also improve some of course. Can't wait!
Please post all Android 5.X.X discussions in the Android 5.X Lollipop Discussions thread
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Hey guys,
I just bought this phone today and I'm having a huge problem.
I make Android games in Unity and Adobe Air. I run these games on my Nexus 7 and my Moto G without the slightest bit of lag (not to brag, but I know what I'm doing when it comes to mobile optimization).
I installed my games on my new Nexus 6 and they lag really badly, even though they run fine on devices with lower specs.
It's running stock Android 5.1 and I have absolutely no idea what's wrong. My other devices run on stock Android 5.0.2.
Do you think it's best to do a factory reset? Or could it be something else?
Thanks in advance.
Zoron19 said:
Hey guys,
I just bought this phone today and I'm having a huge problem.
I make Android games in Unity and Adobe Air. I run these games on my Nexus 7 and my Moto G without the slightest bit of lag (not to brag, but I know what I'm doing when it comes to mobile optimization).
I installed my games on my new Nexus 6 and they lag really badly, even though they run fine on devices with lower specs.
It's running stock Android 5.1 and I have absolutely no idea what's wrong. My other devices run on stock Android 5.0.2.
Do you think it's best to do a factory reset? Or could it be something else?
Thanks in advance.
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I dont think there is a lot you could have done today only, that a factory reset would resolve.
Maybe the best thing to do initially would be to flash 5.0.2 to the device to see if that makes it better, for a basis of comparison versus the other devices.
The only caveat you must be aware of there is that you cannot downgrade the bootloader so flashing the entire factory image would put you in a really bad position.
You could fastboot flash the system.img and boot.img only. Or if you're familiar with custom recovery, you could flash TWRP and flasha rom.zip from there.
Zoron19 said:
Hey guys,
I just bought this phone today and I'm having a huge problem.
I make Android games in Unity and Adobe Air. I run these games on my Nexus 7 and my Moto G without the slightest bit of lag (not to brag, but I know what I'm doing when it comes to mobile optimization).
I installed my games on my new Nexus 6 and they lag really badly, even though they run fine on devices with lower specs.
It's running stock Android 5.1 and I have absolutely no idea what's wrong. My other devices run on stock Android 5.0.2.
Do you think it's best to do a factory reset? Or could it be something else?
Thanks in advance.
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Um, well.... if you do know what you're doing, then you obviously know how to trace the program's execution in order to find out what code is *causing* the lags. This is probably a good first step.
As far as *what* is causing the lags, I do have a few suggestions that could have a significant impact;
1) The Nexus 6 is a much higher resolution. You haven't specified which "generation" of nexus 7 or moto g you are testing on, but both moto g versions are 1280x720, N7-2012 is 1280x800, N7-2013 is 1920x1080. So aside from the N7-2013, all options have only a QUARTER of the number of pixels as the Nexus 6. The N7-2013 has a bit more than HALF the pixels. Is your game graphics intensive? 3d? You could have textures that are just getting way too big to deal with. I'll guess that the N7 is 2013 though, since it is running 5.0. The N7 2012 has 5.1 sysimages available.
2) Of those listed devices, only the Nexus 6 has userdata partition encryption. You might consider encrypting the userdata partition on the nexus 7 and seeing if it starts exhibiting the same "lag". If it does, then you have a good idea that it may be related to disk I/O.
Perhaps you could be more descriptive about what kind of games you make?
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Um, well.... if you do know what you're doing, then you obviously know how to trace the program's execution in order to find out what code is *causing* the lags. This is probably a good first step.
As far as *what* is causing the lags, I do have a few suggestions that could have a significant impact;
1) The Nexus 6 is a much higher resolution. You haven't specified which "generation" of nexus 7 or moto g you are testing on, but both moto g versions are 1280x720, N7-2012 is 1280x800, N7-2013 is 1920x1080. So aside from the N7-2013, all options have only a QUARTER of the number of pixels as the Nexus 6. The N7-2013 has a bit more than HALF the pixels. Is your game graphics intensive? 3d? You could have textures that are just getting way too big to deal with. I'll guess that the N7 is 2013 though, since it is running 5.0. The N7 2012 has 5.1 sysimages available.
2) Of those listed devices, only the Nexus 6 has userdata partition encryption. You might consider encrypting the userdata partition on the nexus 7 and seeing if it starts exhibiting the same "lag". If it does, then you have a good idea that it may be related to disk I/O.
Perhaps you could be more descriptive about what kind of games you make?
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My Nexus 7 is the 2013 model. The Moto G is 1st gen.
My Adobe Air game is 2D and very well optimized (I can run it on the crappiest phones I've come across).
My Unity games are 3D, but one of them is just a touch input test scene. So it has a couple of cubes, a light and a plane. That's it, that's the whole thing and the Nexus 6 craps itself when running that.
I hadn't actually considered the fact that it's a QHD screen, but none of my games have textures at all, they're all just testing different things.
I'm going to try your suggestion about the encryption today, hopefully that's the problem, because I can fix that easily.
Thanks for your response!
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My Nexus 7 is the 2013 model. The Moto G is 1st gen.
My Adobe Air game is 2D and very well optimized (I can run it on the crappiest phones I've come across).
My Unity games are 3D, but one of them is just a touch input test scene. So it has a couple of cubes, a light and a plane. That's it, that's the whole thing and the Nexus 6 craps itself when running that.
I hadn't actually considered the fact that it's a QHD screen, but none of my games have textures at all, they're all just testing different things.
I'm going to try your suggestion about the encryption today, hopefully that's the problem, because I can fix that easily.
Thanks for your response!
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Welcome.
If the encryption test doesn't give you the answer (and maybe even if it does, so you can actually fix it), you are still going to have to trace the execution to see where it is going wrong.
So first hello everyone I just joined this community
I am actually just getting my first android phone, and I was looking around for something interesting
and found out that there is a phone like Nexus 5 which is capable of running all sorts of different OSes
like ubuntu, sailfish, firefox, android of course,... But since nexus 5 is a phone from 2013 I just didn't like the
idea of getting a phone which could become obsolete this very year in terms of specs.
So I was wondering where is Nexus 6 compared to Nexus 5 in terms of running all these differenet OSes,
and generaly in its support for modding and such...
thx
walt disney said:
So first hello everyone I just joined this community
I am actually just getting my first android phone, and I was looking around for something interesting
and found out that there is a phone like Nexus 5 which is capable of running all sorts of different OSes
like ubuntu, sailfish, firefox, android of course,... But since nexus 5 is a phone from 2013 I just didn't like the
idea of getting a phone which could become obsolete this very year in terms of specs.
So I was wondering where is Nexus 6 compared to Nexus 5 in terms of running all these differenet OSes,
and generaly in its support for modding and such...
thx
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Well it has many custom ROM options as does Nexus5, official multirom, first to get updates etc.. But unfortunately, it doesn't have Firefox or Ubuntu or sailfish. They're made by multirom developer and I dont think there's been much done w those. I've tried them on my nexus 7 and wasn't impressed. So I wouldn't run it even if were offered. 6 is bigger but as far as specs.. That's when I hit Google. Lol
Got a 6,2013 7, 2013 7 LTE. I love my nexus. Can't go wrong. I still have the galaxy nexus from years ago.
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walt disney said:
So first hello everyone I just joined this community
I am actually just getting my first android phone, and I was looking around for something interesting
and found out that there is a phone like Nexus 5 which is capable of running all sorts of different OSes
like ubuntu, sailfish, firefox, android of course,... But since nexus 5 is a phone from 2013 I just didn't like the
idea of getting a phone which could become obsolete this very year in terms of specs.
So I was wondering where is Nexus 6 compared to Nexus 5 in terms of running all these differenet OSes,
and generaly in its support for modding and such...
thx
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Putting aside the issue of running non-Android OSes -- which comment #2 covers pretty well -- both the N5 and the N6 support Android-based custom roms very well. Both have unlocked bootloaders so you can load anything that will run on the hardware and flash a factory image of stock Android so you're back to where you started (including going back to various earlier Android versions.)
I've had a Nexus 5 since December, 2013 and it's been excellent -- A++. And I don't think it will be obsolete for at least another year (meaning we'll have updates from Google.) Add to that the exceptional value: you can pick up a new one on eBay for about $200 -- I think -- don't hold me to it.
I've also had a Nexus 6 since March of this year and, while I'm happy with it and wouldn't send it back, I must say that it has some issues. It has run very hot a few times. Read some reviews -- they're not all good. Plus, it's much more expensive than the N5. I like them both but, considering price, the N5 blows away the N6, IMHO.
Ah I see, well I think I'll first have to check them out hands on because N6 by specs seems to be huge and everyone says so, while looking on the pictures it doesn't really seems like that and I have used phones with 4 inch screens until now so really not sure about this ??
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Ah I see, well I think I'll first have to check them out hands on because N6 by specs seems to be huge and everyone says so, while looking on the pictures it doesn't really seems like that and I have used phones with 4 inch screens until now so really not sure about this ??
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If it seems large at first you will get used to it. That big sexy screen will win you over
The more you use it, the better you'll like it!