I've been sold a used nexus 6 in the name of "New" one.
1) I'm just interested in knowing as much prior usage statistics as possible, like lifetime call duration etc. I explored a bit around RTN (##786# & *#*#786#*#*). No luck. Someone please help me achieve that.
2) I'm also looking for a list of tests(display test, battery test etc.) I need to run or what kind of checks I need to make to ensure that everything is good with my phone. Quite concerned since it's a used one.
Actually the phone gallery still has some photo and I could even see chrome browsing history. There should be some fool proof way to get these details(all calls duration etc.) right, even if the device is factory reset? Do even these details get reset? Either ways if there's a way, I can check..No harm in trying out..Please let me know if there's any such method.
Any pointers would be really helpful. Thanks.
krnn said:
I've been sold a used nexus 6 in the name of "New" one.
1) I'm just interested in knowing as much prior usage statistics as possible, like lifetime call duration etc. I explored a bit around RTN (##786# & *#*#786#*#*). No luck. Someone please help me achieve that.
2) I'm also looking for a list of tests(display test, battery test etc.) I need to run or what kind of checks I need to make to ensure that everything is good with my phone. Quite concerned since it's a used one.
Actually the phone gallery still has some photo and I could even see chrome browsing history. There should be some fool proof way to get these details(all calls duration etc.) right, even if the device is factory reset? Do even these details get reset? Either ways if there's a way, I can check..No harm in trying out..Please let me know if there's any such method.
Any pointers would be really helpful. Thanks.
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just like i answered you in the q&a thread..
1. no such thing. under his account, he could check his usage, but you can not. just like in your account you can check your usage but others cant. as soon as you log into your account, his info is gone.
2. there isnt a list of tests
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just like i answered you in the q&a thread..
1. no such thing. under his account, he could check his usage, but you can not. just like in your account you can check your usage but others cant. as soon as you log into your account, his info is gone.
2. there isnt a list of tests
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Thanks for your response. I dont understand why they've tied phone's usage information to the google account rather than directly to the phone. I'm looking for something like this. I could try what they're saying on this page, but, I do not want to do any sort of setup on that phone since I'm also negotiating with Amazon for a replacement.
Thanks.
krnn said:
Thanks for your response. I dont understand why they've tied phone's usage information to the google account rather than directly to the phone. I'm looking for something like this. I could try what they're saying on this page, but, I do not want to do any sort of setup on that phone since I'm also negotiating with Amazon for a replacement.
Thanks.
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As devices can be flashed from the bootloader level there is no real way to get the states you want. It pretty much zeros out all the hardware and reloads the software from scratch like if the device was never used.
phone info is *#*#4636#*#*, but you wont get any usage info out of it.
Thanks for the reply guys.
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I might have to send mine back, if I were to buy some apps and then get a different handset, can I still use them on the new device.
Kev
no they are tied to your gmail account. So if you send it back you can restore them on your new device without having to pay again..
I can verify this - I have apps that I bought for my G1, still in my downloads when I got my magic and again have been transferred to my Hero. Linking to your gmail account is a really fair way for software to work -
On Win Mo it was often tied to the IMEI so if it bust or you sold it you had to buy again or grovel for another code....
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Thanks Both, that is good to know.
Coupled with a post I have read on here from someone who apparantly got a refund very simply on an app, it is making Android look really good.
Only issues left for me are.
1. Trying to forget how good the iPhone is (at the things it does)
2. Try to increase font sizes on Hero.
3. Try to solve the frequent "a network error has occured, please retry, or cancel and return to the previous screen"
4. Solve the seemingly poor wi-fi reception.
5. Try to forgot how none of those things are an issue on iPhone
Kev
kevwright said:
Thanks Both, that is good to know.
Coupled with a post I have read on here from someone who apparantly got a refund very simply on an app, it is making Android look really good.
Only issues left for me are.
1. Trying to forget how good the iPhone is (at the things it does)
2. Try to increase font sizes on Hero.
3. Try to solve the frequent "a network error has occured, please retry, or cancel and return to the previous screen"
4. Solve the seemingly poor wi-fi reception.
5. Try to forgot how none of those things are an issue on iPhone
Kev
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Lot of things there that you have compared to the iPhone, what do you like better than the iPhone though?
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Nahhh get a iPhone. The Hero's not for you. It's 'orrible. You won't Like it.
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Dayzzzz - Get set for going off to the Ed Festival...
It appears to be tied in my experience. I bought video safe and photo safe on the g1, and on upgrading to a g2, it am unable to install those apps. It appears that trying to reinstall is making an attempt to charge my bank card again.
I have emailed the supplier. I would see what they have to say.
You might get a checking credit card details message but I think this is just to check that its the same as the one that paid. I've never been charged again for the apps I've bought, including copilot .
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I need some input from serious developers, damageless, darch, gbhill, toast, etc. people who muck around in the real **** and have a deep understanding of the android operating system.
i have a hero that is no longer on the mobile network, and i want to turn it into a straight up PDA. i want to totally and completely remove anything that has to do with phone calls, mms, sms, and mobile network. ENTIRELY.
the only problem is that when i try to remove phone stuff from system/app, i get constant FC's until i nandroid restore.
how can i do this? anyone bored enough to try to help?
once again, i want to remove EVERY and ANYTHING that has to do with mobile networks and phone usage.
maybe wipe and just install debian? is this possible?
what can actually be DONE with this platform?
im looking for a discussion, some pointers of where to start learning, and some forward momentum on this.
thanks, guys.
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I need some input from serious developers, damageless, darch, gbhill, toast, etc. people who muck around in the real **** and have a deep understanding of the android operating system.
i have a hero that is no longer on the mobile network, and i want to turn it into a straight up PDA. i want to totally and completely remove anything that has to do with phone calls, mms, sms, and mobile network. ENTIRELY.
the only problem is that when i try to remove phone stuff from system/app, i get constant FC's until i nandroid restore.
how can i do this? anyone bored enough to try to help?
once again, i want to remove EVERY and ANYTHING that has to do with mobile networks and phone usage.
maybe wipe and just install debian? is this possible?
what can actually be DONE with this platform?
im looking for a discussion, some pointers of where to start learning, and some forward momentum on this.
thanks, guys.
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You can install Debian, but it would be a pain to use and you'd have horrible battery life.
It would be easier taking something already stripped down, and stripping it down further.
I've been delving into this, and I have something working with no phone mms nothing.
I'll release something like this based off of Darch's build. It'll have a few issues, but it won't have any radio access to Sprint; just wifi.
You will want to look into an AOSP rom.. Since alot of htc's stuff all relies on one another. Alot of stuff is worked into htcs framework.
An aosp rom would be a good choice. And maybe just set airplane mode on so it doesnt connect to the network at all. This could be a temporary thing until something better comes along.
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You can install Debian, but it would be a pain to use and you'd have horrible battery life.
It would be easier taking something already stripped down, and stripping it down further.
I've been delving into this, and I have something working with no phone mms nothing.
I'll release something like this based off of Darch's build. It'll have a few issues, but it won't have any radio access to Sprint; just wifi.
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exactly what i am looking for. i want to remove ALL radio/mobile network/phone dependencies. can you tell me how you did it?
sleejay said:
exactly what i am looking for. i want to remove ALL radio/mobile network/phone dependencies. can you tell me how you did it?
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Once I upload it .
It's not much work. Just taking out the correct .apk's to ensure stability. And then adjusting some settings so that the radio never even turns on.
why would you need to do that anyway?
Why use the phone functions of a phone, If you don't have any service?
I think it's a great idea, I went 3 months using my hero has a pda using airplane mode and an app from the market that let me untethered wifi from airplane mode. Must say battery life was short of amazing but with a rom built for the very purpose I can see even more potential.
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Once I upload it .
It's not much work. Just taking out the correct .apk's to ensure stability. And then adjusting some settings so that the radio never even turns on.
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as soon as i remove com.android.phone.apk i start with the constant and steady FC's. what is calling that apk?
Hi!
Somethig strange just happend... Grab my Samsung Galaxy Tab and noticed, that wifi was off... so i turned it on... it said scanning... and after 5 or 8 seconds wifi turned off by itself... tried again... turned off again...
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rebooting - no help...
what's going on??? help?
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ok, factory reset helped.... but i'm still wondering.... was it a virus... does anyone know sth about it??
The word "virus" isn't really applicable to Android devices. If used in VERY broad terms it almost applies, but even then it's a stretch.
There are programs that do malicious things out there, and the best thing you can do to avoid that is check the permissions on everything you download.
I doubt it would have been a virus. There are a lot of other explanations. But, for peace of mind, search the market for AVG and download the free version. Personally, I think it is more often than not a source of false positives, but as I said, it can provide some peace of mind as well
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Like...? Give me some ideas, please.
Well, I will say from the outset that I am not an expert at the technical details when it comes to such things. I would imagine that there was either some kind of corruption with the configuration files, or possibly with the OS itself. I have seen certain devices that occasionally reboot when power to WiFi is toggled on, for example. As to what caused it, there are really far too many possibilities to be able to say. I think that it would be difficult to get a virus from any of the app markets, most questionable stuff gets flagged. And of course you have the ability to see what these apps have access to. So perhaps it was an app that you allow network access to that screwed up the configuration through an error. Installing stuff that is non-market and of questionable repute could very well get you something malicious though.
Anyway, my original suggestion was going to be to try wiping all of the associated configurations and clearing the cache. But, you had already posted that you had it sorted out, so I didn't bother.
I am sure there are more informed people who could shed more precise light on the matter, these were just my ideas.
This does "just happen" sometimes. Usually, forgetting the connection information and re-entering it does the trick. If that doesn't then a hard reset (as you've already discovered) is the next best thing.
The technical term for what happened is "glitch".
with all the spy wear out there i have found info and files from my phone on someones laptop. figured i let my phone out of my sight. but have recently learned that text messages have been pulled from my wife and my phone. i was told it was a worm used on ones phone similar to something used to gather info. so my question is how can stop the intrusions.
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with all the spy wear out there i have found info and files from my phone on someones laptop. figured i let my phone out of my sight. but have recently learned that text messages have been pulled from my wife and my phone. i was told it was a worm used on ones phone similar to something used to gather info. so my question is how can stop the intrusions.
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For future reference your question would be better asked in the Android Q&A section. However to answer your question, one course of action I would recommend would be to do a full factory reset on your phone. Make sure you are very sure about the apps you are installing and the permissions they are wanting to use to access information on your phone. Also be careful what wireless networks you are using and make sure they are trustworthy as this is another access vector for people to steal your information. Any more questions feel free to ask!
Problem:
My mum has an Android-based Samsung phone and unfortunately, when the main folder with photos ("Camera") was moved from the Phone to PC via USB cable, it was made using Cut and Paste. By accident the files were pasted into Recycle Bin and we received warning "Files will be permanently deleted. Do you wish to proceed?". We pressed "No" to abandon this process and undo the mistake. Nevertheless, the entire folder "Camera" has already disappeared from the window of DCIM folder on the phone (as viewed from PC). Similarly, the folder appears to have been deleted when viewed from within the phone. (also the phone now has 150 Gb free, while before the process it had 110 Gb free, so it appears 40 Gb of photos have been deleted....
Attempts to fix:
Standard photo / data recovery services failed to bring results (searching hidden folders using Windows Explorer, Total Commander and Ultdata Android).
We then tried two professional software solutions (Cellebrite UFED and Oxygen Forensic Device Extractor -- Android Agent), which also did not manage to locate photos on the device.
It appears as if they were completely deleted.
The same person who used the two prof software solutions above has access to PC-3000, but he claims it's not suitable for Android data recovery (?)
We have already spent 2 days and hundreds of dollars on consultations, which unfortunately still have not brought any results, while the emotional weight of deleted memories is haunting us. Thus, we appeal to help of this forum.
Current thoughts:
#1 All other methods suggested require rooting the phone, which apparently will wipe the whole and make recovery of that specific folder even less likely (correct me if I'm wrong).
#2 All suggestions to make back-up of the phone / clone the entire memory are not relevant, as the only files that are of importance here are the files in the deleted folder, and those files are not hidden and therefore will not copy into this back-up anyway (correct me if I'm wrong).
#3 One person told us to ask Samsung customer service, but their response was that they don't do data recovery and that they only can restore if there was Samsung cloud backup activated.
Questions:
Q1: What is our best course of action? It seems, rooting is one way or another, inevitable. What rooting method would be best to use here, given the situation and my phone specifications? I understand that there is no 100% guarantee to recover the erased photos, but we would like to at least give it a try with maximum chances of success.
Q2: Given that the files we want to back-up are already deleted and not visible, is it even worth it to try to make any back-ups? or will it be in vain, and should we just proceed to rooting and further recovery attempts?
Q3: IF, we successfully root, what is the best way to access the hidden data? Do we need help of this expert who has PC-3000 and specialized software, or is it going to be accessible using our own PC+USB cable + extra downloaded software?
Phone:
Samsung S21 Ultra (G998B). Android 12. No cloud, no backup. Phone not used for now. New data is not copied onto the phone. Phone not rooted.
Thank you for all your help. I do hope to find some solution. We are down hundreds of dollars, many hours of talking to consultants, many of whom appear to just google potential solutions and offer us some basic things, while the pain of cherished memories potentially lost forever is the worst, much worse than money lost. Any help or constructive feedback would be appreciated!
BTW if someone offers a working solution, I can offer consultancy fee for time and success fee in case of recovery.
Root probably won't be possible without unlocking the bootloader, and unlocking the bootloader factory resets the phone, which formats the internal storage and permanently deletes everything. I've used root apps to recover deleted photos and videos before but that only works if the phone was already rooted, or if there's a way to do it without wiping the phone. When I joined XDA almost a decade ago it was relatively common to see root methods that used exploits, and didn't require you to wipe the phone but that's not really a thing today. All this is to say that root is almost certainly not a viable option.
Have you checked for professional forensics services that can disassemble the phone and connect wires directly to the storage chips?
I've seen Youtube videos like this, where they get into the guts of the electronics and use solder and wiring. Sorry I don't know more specifics, but perhaps you can find them online and mail your phone for professional forensics recovery.
Maybe you can download a folder files of camera for the S21 Ultra :U
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Have you checked for professional forensics services that can disassemble the phone and connect wires directly to the storage chips?
I've seen Youtube videos like this, where they get into the guts of the electronics and use solder and wiring. Sorry I don't know more specifics, but perhaps you can find them online and mail your phone for professional forensics recovery.
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^this^ Your best shot. With this you may only get one shot especially if you cause more damage by misadventure...
Others here have gone this route and gotten good results. $400-800 for non rush service is in the ballpark.
KingFatty said:
Have you checked for professional forensics services that can disassemble the phone and connect wires directly to the storage chips?
I've seen Youtube videos like this, where they get into the guts of the electronics and use solder and wiring. Sorry I don't know more specifics, but perhaps you can find them online and mail your phone for professional forensics recovery.
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^this^ Your best shot. With this you may only get one shot especially if you cause more damage by misadventure...
Others here have gone this route and gotten good results. $400-800 for non rush service is in the ballpark.
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Thank you. I have come across some websites mentioning this, but could not find any agency of repute in my region offering such a solution. And especially if I can only get one shot with this, I definitely want to pick the best agency to try it out. The photos inside are worth it for me to shell out hundreds of dollars if necessary...
I wonder also, if we can reasonably expect technical progress to be able to solve this situation. I don't mean some stuff like quantum computing, but for instance I'm aware that PS3 has recently been cracked , a few years after it came out. Can I reasonably expect something similar to happen to Android 12 that what's not breakable/crackable today, may become so in 1-2 or maybe 3-4 years? While I'd hate to have to wait for 2-3 years, there's nothing time-sensitive in those photos; just family moments that I would like to be able to revisit 10 years later, so if I only will be able to access them later on, that's fine, I can just put my phone in a drawer for a few years and wait. As long as this wait is not in vain. Definitely don't need false hope.
Thanks for your feedback!
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Thank you. I have come across some websites mentioning this, but could not find any agency of repute in my region offering such a solution. And especially if I can only get one shot with this, I definitely want to pick the best agency to try it out. The photos inside are worth it for me to shell out hundreds of dollars if necessary...
I wonder also, if we can reasonably expect technical progress to be able to solve this situation. I don't mean some stuff like quantum computing, but for instance I'm aware that PS3 has recently been cracked , a few years after it came out. Can I reasonably expect something similar to happen to Android 12 that what's not breakable/crackable today, may become so in 1-2 or maybe 3-4 years? While I'd hate to have to wait for 2-3 years, there's nothing time-sensitive in those photos; just family moments that I would like to be able to revisit 10 years later, so if I only will be able to access them later on, that's fine, I can just put my phone in a drawer for a few years and wait. As long as this wait is not in vain. Definitely don't need false hope.
Thanks for your feedback!
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There's a thread here I posted on going 4-8 months. He had hid data recovered from a Samsung for $1200 rush job vs the usual $800 charge). I've tried to find it, but you see my post count. Usually that works in my favor but not always He shipped it to them if I recall correctly.
Try these guys. That may be the company he used. Been too long and it was of passing interest to me. If you do recover the data please report back. Many posters here have asked for this.
Due to the way those files were lost they may not be recoverable. Personally I would've written them off. However only a recovery specialist can say for sure.
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There's a thread here I posted on going 4-8 months. He had hid data recovered from a Samsung for $1200 rush job vs the usual $800 charge). I've tried to find it, but you see my post count. Usually that works in my favor but not always He shipped it to them if I recall correctly.
Try these guys. That may be the company he used. Been too long and it was of passing interest to me. If you do recover the data please report back. Many posters here have asked for this.
Due to the way those files were lost they may not be recoverable. Personally I would've written them off. However only a recovery specialist can say for sure.
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reached out to the guys you recommended, though their website / social media have not been updated since 2020... Will report back on the progress.
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reached out to the guys you recommended, though their website / social media have not been updated since 2020... Will report back on the progress.
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I'm not sure that's who he used and I know only what I read on their site. Just saying...
Can't you just plug the phone to a PC and use a recovery tool like DiskDrill, or something?
Flash the original firmware
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Flash the original firmware
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That would do nothing except complicate the issue.
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Can't you just plug the phone to a PC and use a recovery tool like DiskDrill, or something?
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tried that. The phone is not considered a hard drive, hence neither appears on the list of hard drives on Disk Drill, nor can be selected as folder/destination to run it on...
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tried that. The phone is not considered a hard drive, hence neither appears on the list of hard drives on Disk Drill, nor can be selected as folder/destination to run it on...
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I should mention that even if the jpegs can be recovered their exif data is not able to be associated with the jpeg. The folder structure is lost as well. A sea of jpegs with no time stamp or original image name. A daunting task in itself to sort these out.
Make a factory reset
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Make a factory reset
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That would overwrite the lost data potentially making it impossible to recover as if it's not already bad enough.
It was a simple data transfer that went bad (this can happen), nothing indicates the user partition or rom are corrupted... throwing rocks at it doesn't help.
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tried that. The phone is not considered a hard drive, hence neither appears on the list of hard drives on Disk Drill, nor can be selected as folder/destination to run it on...
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Try an app called "Disk Digger". Its on the playstore. It might belp.
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Try an app called "Disk Digger". Its on the playstore. It might belp.
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If you're not going to use a professional recovery service, go for it.
Otherwise using the device risks overwriting the now unallocated data... once overwritten recovery is completely impossible on a flash drive.
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That would overwrite the lost data potentially making it impossible to recover as if it's not already bad enough.
It was a simple data transfer that went bad (this can happen), nothing indicates the user partition or rom are corrupted... throwing rocks at it doesn't he
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Make a factory reset
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That would definitely ruin his chances of any recovery... just avoid making any writing on the storage, cause if the data you want to recover is overwrite, it's definitely gone... at least intact...