It has a Non-Mic Headset port - U WAT M8?? - Teclast X98 Air 3G

This one I simply can't get my head around.
X98 Air 3G only has a 3 pin audio jack, not a 4 pin one, so if you plug a headset with in-line mic in, sound is distorted. It only plays normally if you hold the mic button in which grounds the mic pin...
UNBELIEVABLE !!! I can't believe I've not seen anyone mention it before because it's such an absolute bizarre thing to cheap-out on in manufacturing. You have a Retina screen, and a headphone port from the first Walkman in the 1980s....
I can't get my head around it... I mean, you see the Chinese leaving things like gyro out on phones or other things... BUT THIS????
I mean, what kind of mentalist wants to use a headset on a phablet anyway?
Mind is blown.
/rant

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X1 3.5mm socket broke my headphone jack :(

Hi,
Wanted to ask if this was a common problem. The 3.5mm socket on my Xperia has worn two pretty significant grooves into my headphone jack. It's now so bad that the right channel doesn't work half the time. The problem persists when I use the headphones in other devices to it's definitely managed to damage the heaphone jack.
I experimented with the included microphone lead and it has also managed to scar that a little so I immediately stopped using it.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? FYI the headphones are AKG K414P.
Thanks
Tome
The socket sucks. It ALMOST broke my in-ear headphone's jack. It's too tight.
yeah the socket is really tight on mine as well, haven't streaked any headphones yet though, maybe I haven't used them enough?
I have something like this. I think I have the same problem.
It is indeed too tight.
Managed to pull away the rubber coating on my headphones jack, while trying to unplug :/
dogans said:
It is indeed too tight.
Managed to pull away the rubber coating on my headphones jack, while trying to unplug :/
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That's what happened to me. Be sure to grab that rubber very tightly.
ksian said:
I have something like this. I think I have the same problem.
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Same problem here, i think this is a common problem on all XPERIA. The socket is too damn tight.
Anyway once you know that you start taking care and you won't break anything. And it's clearly an advantage that it's so tight, if you're using big headphones and your X1 slips out of your hand, it won't touch the ground (Assuming the cable is not too long and you ain't too small ). I like this.
I think we're talking about two different problems here.
My original question was about the contacts on the inside of the socket being so strong that they have cut grooves into the headphone plug. The grooves are so deep that they will not make connection half of the time i use it so that I am losing the right channel of audio on my headphones.
The other problem you guys are talking about is that the heaphone jack holds onto the plug too tightly and so the plug is damaged when you try to remove it.
While you might be able to prevent the second problem by removing the plug carefully, there is no way to avoid the original problem that I reported.
It sounds like Ksian might have the same problem as me but i can't tell from the short reply. Has anyone else experience loss of audio through one channel of their headphones due to the socket cutting grooves in their headphone jack? I know for sure that the X1 socket is too hard as it always makes marks on plugs that are inserted into them, but i want to know if my headphone plug might also be too soft combining two problems to make me lose sound in the right-hand channel
tome_1 said:
I think we're talking about two different problems here.
My original question was about the contacts on the inside of the socket being so strong that they have cut grooves into the headphone plug. The grooves are so deep that they will not make connection half of the time i use it so that I am losing the right channel of audio on my headphones.
The other problem you guys are talking about is that the heaphone jack holds onto the plug too tightly and so the plug is damaged when you try to remove it.
While you might be able to prevent the second problem by removing the plug carefully, there is no way to avoid the original problem that I reported.
It sounds like Ksian might have the same problem as me but i can't tell from the short reply. Has anyone else experience loss of audio through one channel of their headphones due to the socket cutting grooves in their headphone jack? I know for sure that the X1 socket is too hard as it always makes marks on plugs that are inserted into them, but i want to know if my headphone plug might also be too soft combining two problems to make me lose sound in the right-hand channel
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I DO have BOTH problems. My plug has quite deep scratches. But no loss of audio so far. I think this will get better with time, the socket will also lose some material If your headphones are expensive and break quickly (and you absolutely want to keep your X1 as Mp3player) you might want to use a very small extension cord to avoid damage to the headphones themselves. Extensions of say 2" exist.
dogans said:
It is indeed too tight.
Managed to pull away the rubber coating on my headphones jack, while trying to unplug :/
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Same thing it did to mine, killing my Creative Aurvanas's 3.5mm jack rubber housing. They still work but the rubber is loose.
Ah well, because of that I am actually looking at some Shure E530's (the Xperia is a pretty good source IMO). They have a detachable extension cord so i can use a L-plug instead of a straight plug.
Really, use L-plugs, they are a lot more durable against the tight socket. Its just because the sound is really great for a phone, hell, I bet its better than most MP3 players, else i would be very mad, killing my favourite IEM's . Very clean sound, although sensitive IEM's will hiss but that is expectable from such a 'noisy' thing like a fully packed-with-features phone.
But hey, a tight socket is better then a loose socket, or a proprietary extension cord like the HTC's.
Apart from killing my Aurvana's I still think the 3.5mm socket is High Quality Stuff. It just feels 'right' when you plug in your IEM's/headphones.
Keep in mind that you shouldn't keep the extension plugged in all the time because the phone actually detects this and routes certain sound events from the speaker to the headphones. For instance if you pick up a call with the extension plugged in but no headphones, you will not be able to hear the caller.
yeah i was thinking that i might have to make/buy a short extension to save my expensive headphones
it's like you guys are saying, the sound is good enough that i want to put good headphones on so i'll have to find a way to protect them. I wonder if the included handsfree extension is resistant to the phone's socket?
I use the stock extension. It gets scratched as well (have xperia for 2 months). As for the sound quality, I'm thinking about repairing my good old Ipod nano for listening mp3's. I do think, that it has better sound quality and more than that the battery of the phone won't die out so fast (playing music for about 2 hours a day).
Lol. Would not have noticed this without you guys. Who would look at their earphone jacks? Either they are very bored or something about their earphones is screwed up.
Does other HTC phones have these problems? Oh wait, only the THD has 3.5mm.
The jack has ground grooves into the jack on every single pair of earphones I own,and based on this alone, I'd say SE, give me my freakin money back!
Is it serious? Probably not. But is it supposed to do that? Hell no.
I don't want to use the stock extension cable, otherwise I wouldn't choose a phone with a 3.5mm jack, Jesus bleeping Christ.
I have the same problem here. I used a nokia handsfree and after 2 days I had that scratches and sometimes I couldn't here well, the sound was faded and i had to turn the jack in a certain position. Today I tried an Iphone handsfree and it doesn't work well..
I don't know why... Is it to thin? It's new but the sound is faded. I don;t get it? Has anybody tried this apple headphones? (The one with microphone, so 3 stripes on the jack)
LATER POST: I TRIED ANOTHER HEADPHONES AND THE SAME BLURED SOUND...SO I GUESS MY SOCKET IT'S SCREWED
well, then again the apple handsfree is thiner i guess, because i tried some Lg headphones and they were ok. the apple headphones are functioning conected on laptop. I don't know what to believe... I really wanted to use the apple stuff on this phone, i should buy an extender.
use your xperia handfree as an extension, have been doing that for over a year now, and even though it's scratched like hell, it works fine, without damaging my beats
Could you please tell me wich model of headphones by SE are they? I mean the x1 headphones.
I found out that iphone's 3.5mm socket is not like the others so the x1 is not like the others and maybe that;s the reason i can;t use the apple headphones.
ok...got it.."If they have a mic, then they're useless for anything but an iPhone.
Apple decided rather than follow the industry standard of Right/Left/Mic/Ground, they would make their own up. They chose to make their socket Right/Left/Ground/Mic, which means your N900 is trying to ground the headphones through the mic, which clearly will not work.
In short, they won't work on anything except an iProduct."

[Q] Earphones Adjusting Volume Automatically/Activating Speech Options

I just recently purchased some new earphones (Sennheiser IE7) and when I plug these into my HD7, they randomly activate the speech recognition options (even though I have disabled this in the settings), adjust the volume and pause Zune playback.
Cheaper earphones don't do this when plugged into the phone and nor does a Bluetooth headset, it only seems to happen with these particular earphones.
Has anyone experienced this with other head/earphones or knows of a way to stop this kind of thing happening?
Thanks in advance.
I have experienced this also. When I use a male to male 3.5mm cable to my receiver the phone acts as if the -vol button is held down. This does not happen when I use a really cheap sony behind the head style earphone or the buds that came with it.
My guess is that its caused by the spacing on the connector (you know, between the little rings).
Try a bunch of earphones. If you're desperate, you could try splicing the connector of an earphone that works with the earphones you want to use. Otherwise I would say its not worth it; the audio components in the HD7 don't seem to have great quality anyway. I had a razr2 and the sound quality was better than the soundblaster in my computer.

[Q] Milestone with Skull Candy 50/50 headphones makes the music player go crazy.

Hello all.
I recently bought Skull Candy 50/50 headphones to replace my (overly "repaired") headphones.
Problem is that the second I connect them to the device the music player (stock android player) starts playing/skipping tracks like crazy.
It stops skipping tracks and works 100% fine if I hold either of the volume buttons on the headphones remote (the remote doesn't change the volume).
I should mention that the package states "Made for Iphone/Ipod" but the clerk at the store said it will be fine
Has any one experienced a similar problem with said headphones on a milestone?
If not than it would mean the headphones are defective and I need to go replace them (haven't yet because it's ~3 hours worth of driving from where I live).
Motorola Milestone CM7.1 RC8.
thats not just the problem with skull candys. sometimes i experience similiar problems with koss porta pros. i think the problem is the plug. some head phone plugs don't fit well into the jack so that it moves a little and sends a false remote signal to play the next track or something like that.
theres no proof but that may be one explanation
U're right! After changing my headset, i encounter some probs , like a small disconnect or so, which didn't appear when having the original one. So, the female jack may have some issues, or the headset's male jack is a bit thinner... idk...
Abazel said:
U're right! After changing my headset, i encounter some probs , like a small disconnect or so, which didn't appear when having the original one. So, the female jack may have some issues, or the headset's male jack is a bit thinner... idk...
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ya either one
My theory was that since the skullcandy headset was "made for iphone/ipod" then the remote uses different signals than another "made for everything" headset thus making the milestone confused.
But if you guys say that "made for everything" headsets do the same thing than I can only ask why do we have the standard 3.5mm jack if different companies do what ever they want with it.
My 3.5mm jack is 100% functional with other 4 pole headsets so it's either a defective headset or "made for iphone/ipod" should have the word "only" in it.
Thank you all for your replies.

FIIO LU2 Adapter

I picked up the LU2, and I must say, I was deeply disappointed. It reduces the sound quality dramatically. Any high pitch noise just comes out as a screech. It doesn't always stay connected. It was just bad.
If anyone was unfortunate enough to buy this, some helpful tips:
If you have a three button headset, grab some electric tape, and keep the middle button pressed down. This will enable the headphones to work, but not the mic. It seems to work fine with one button headphones, including mic. If the music plays out of the loud speaker despite the headphones being plugged in, it usually suffices to just twist the headphones into the adapter. If it still doesn't work, unplug the headphones and replug them.
Despite all that, the thing worked. If you look at the 3.5" plug, it is made of four rings. One ring is the left speaker, one ring is the right speaker, one ring is the mic, and one ring is controls. The Xperia PLAY headphone jack expects the mic and control rings to be the reverse spot, hence the need for the stupid adapter. I've been looking for alternatives, and just picked one up on ebay. I'll see if that fairs any better.
The link for those who desperately need an adapter: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/834119-REG/Fiio_LU2_LU2_Smart_Adapter_Cable.html

Is anyone able to use a 3 ring headphone jack (those with phone mic) on their Turbo?

I noticed a few days ago that my new Turbo does not play audio through the headphones I have. It cuts the phone speaker off when i connect them as if its playing through the headphones, but the phones are completely silent.
I confirmed that the h.phones work with other devices, and I have another second set that doesn't work on the turbo. BOTH the sets that dont work are the ones that have a built in phone mic and 3 black rings on the jack.
I found an old third set that is just plain headphones (identical size but 2 black rings, no phone mic or volum controls built in) and IT works fine on the turbo.
Ive researched and I have found a few people with similar vague questions but no answers other than people saying it sounds broken...
SO... can you guys please confirm if you have a 3 ring type jack on your headphones that DOES .. (or DOESNT) work?
Thanks so much!
Dan
bigd2442 said:
SO... can you guys please confirm if you have a 3 ring type jack on your headphones that DOES .. (or DOESNT) work?
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At first mine work fine, but recently it begun to get faulty until it stop working, if I twist the plug sometimes
I can get them to work, if i touch it the sound stops.
I have had no problem of that sort with my Xiaomi piston 2.
Not all three-ring headphone jacks are the same. The technical name for it is TRRS jacks, and while referring to them as ring works, people just call 'em poles (don't ask me why, people just call 'em that).
http://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/understanding-trrs-and-audio-jacks/
There are different types of TRRS standards and they're poorly indicated as to what type of standard a headphone is using.
Thanks so much. Very helpful info.
So my real question now is, are our phones not TRRS compatible? Seems kind of silly if they're not. I'm considering taking it in for a warrantee issue but I'd hate to get a refurb that has the same problem if this isn't really anything "broken".
Yes but Bluetooth so doesnt count... Jayblue birds x
My turbo came with an included "3 ring head phone jack". So, I would assume that it, at least, can work. I don't use the head phone that came with it, so I can't tell you that it actually works. ?
I've used three ring headphones with a mic with my Turbo just fine.
Headphone with a mic
My turbo will not work with headphones that hat a mic (3 pole)... kind of annoying but I still love the phone..
hidea said:
Not all three-ring headphone jacks are the same. The technical name for it is TRRS jacks, and while referring to them as ring works, people just call 'em poles (don't ask me why, people just call 'em that).
http://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/understanding-trrs-and-audio-jacks/
There are different types of TRRS standards and they're poorly indicated as to what type of standard a headphone is using.
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TRRS stands for Tip - Ring - Ring - Sleeve.
Ring is the correct way to refer to it.
I used an old pair of Samsung headphones w/mic and they work fine.
Not that phones come with great earphones these days.. but, I found it odd that a flagship wouldn't come with anything at all.

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