I bought this for my mom and I was wondering if the tablet did regular updates, would it lose google play? What would an OTA take out other than root?
I'm currently on 5.1.1(got mine the day the update was released and updated without knowing) and I was able to install google play and services and haven't had any problems with either. As far as OTA updates, I doubt it will prevent it from working but can't say for sure because we don't know what Amazon will do.
tuckerwagner said:
I'm currently on 5.1.1(got mine the day the update was released and updated without knowing) and I was able to install google play and services and haven't had any problems with either. As far as OTA updates, I doubt it will prevent it from working but can't say for sure because we don't know what Amazon will do.
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Others have mentioned that the Amazon updates are full images, so I would speculate that if you had root and installed to system it would probably be wiped out. If you used the script, it just installs like a regular app and should be retained through an OTA like all the other apps. That's not to say that an OS change couldn't cause the frameworks or app to crash\stop functioning.
Didn't some others say they couldn't install Play store completely on 5.1.1 ?
[PSA] Information Regarding Firmware Version 5.1.1
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List of things you can't do:
Remove Amazon Bloatware
Boot a .img from Fastboot
Downgrade to an earlier release
Root
Install Custom ROMS
Remove Lockscreen Ads
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Install and use the Google Play Framework and Services
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The current update may not break google play but at any time in the future a update may come out that does indeed break it. Why risk it? Just disable OTA.
It seems a bunch of people got screwed because they failed to kill OTA & got hit by 5.1.1. It's just foolish to leave OTA enabled. You can always apply a new update manually or even temporarily re-enable OTA if a new update proves safe & you want it.
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It's just foolish to leave OTA enabled. You can always apply a new update manually or even temporarily re-enable OTA if a new update proves safe & you want it.
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This. Completely automatic updates are for the elderly that have to call their children to be reminded how to cut/paste in Excel.
julianpaul said:
Didn't some others say they couldn't install Play store completely on 5.1.1 ?
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The Google Play script from 5.0.1 works just the same in 5.1.1 without issue.
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I've decided to get my phone ready to accept the (hopefully soon) OTA update for my 2013 X. Right now it's on 4.4.4, bootloader unlocked (thanks Sunshine!), and rooted. I had it rooted to take advantage of Xposed and Secure Settings with Tasker integration. I also used TitaniumBackup to freeze the Verizon and some Moto apps I never used.
Currently, I have uninstalled every Xposed module I downloaded, then unistalled Xposed itself and finally the Xposed installer app. After that I went into Titanium and defrosted everything that was frozen. Now I have a fair amount of updates coming in from the Play store for all those apps that were frozen. Should I go ahead and update them?
From what I've read, there's been talk on whether or not I have to un-root my phone. I thought I just had to use the toolkit to flash back the stock recovery? That should be the only thing left to do? What about some apps that are device administrators like Cerberus? Do I need to remove them from that list?
Thank you for any advice. I plan on flashing stock recovery when I get home this evening.
Generally speaking an OTA will probably fail if apps it expects to be present are missing or modified in the /system partition. I don't know if having additional items (like Cerberus) will halt the OTA or not. Custom recovery may also interfere with the OTA.
It sounds like you already did all the work, but I personally wouldn't have done any of that until the OTA was actually rolling out. I know they said it will be soon, but it could still be weeks away. I wouldn't give up my phone that was setup how I like it, but that's just my preference.
When the OTA drops, if you try and install it will do all of the validation before it installs anything. If the validation fails, it will tell you it has an error and it won't work. Then you'll have to fix whatever was modified, or reflash the stock firmware to be compatible with the OTA.
I don't believe updating the apps is necessary. I don't even think they need to be active (you can use the Disable function in the App Info screen to hide them), they just need to be present in your /system folder with the correct signature, is how I understand it.
In previous versions of Android, disabling the OTA was easy.
I can't figure out how to on Lollipop, though. I'm currently on 5.0.1, and just got the OTA notification for 5.1. I don't want to upgrade yet, as I'm rooted, and I don't have time to deal with it this week.
How can I disable the OTA from going? I downloaded the OTA, but it isn't listed under /cache/ in the root directory. OTAs seem to be tied to Google Play Services now--so that's why I'm asking. I can't find an apk responsible for updating other than Play Services.
Thank you!
natezire71 said:
In previous versions of Android, disabling the OTA was easy.
I can't figure out how to on Lollipop, though. I'm currently on 5.0.1, and just got the OTA notification for 5.1. I don't want to upgrade yet, as I'm rooted, and I don't have time to deal with it this week.
How can I disable the OTA from going? I downloaded the OTA, but it isn't listed under /cache/ in the root directory. OTAs seem to be tied to Google Play Services now--so that's why I'm asking. I can't find an apk responsible for updating other than Play Services.
Thank you!
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If you are rooted, the OTA will not install.
cam30era said:
If you are rooted, the OTA will not install.
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But still--how can I stop from receiving the OTA at all? Remove the notification?
natezire71 said:
But still--how can I stop from receiving the OTA at all? Remove the notification?
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Turn off notifications for Google play services?
But does the ota still get pushed by vzw?
recDNA said:
But does the ota still get pushed by vzw?
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Comes from Google, just needs big red approval
But will it be pushed?
recDNA said:
But will it be pushed?
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Depends if they approve
I don't know what that means
recDNA said:
I don't know what that means
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Jeez.
Verizon must approve the 5.1 update, before Google can push it to Verizon phones.
edit.. And apparently they have. Verizon phones are getting the OTA
But merely disabling playstore auto updates won't stop ota from vzw so how do you block it?
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But merely disabling playstore auto updates won't stop ota from vzw so how do you block it?
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I don't understand why you need to block it. Just ignore it until you're ready to do something else to update. Is it really that much of an issue?
So no way to block vzw ota. OK. Used to just freeze otacert
Lol...first world problems.
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But merely disabling playstore auto updates won't stop ota from vzw so how do you block it?
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There are no updates from vzw.
OK, will blocking playstore app updates prevent google ota from downloading onto phone? I always block app updates anyway. I only update apps if they don't work.
recDNA said:
OK, will blocking playstore app updates prevent google ota from downloading onto phone? I always block app updates anyway. I only update apps if they don't work.
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Clever, its best to have the oldest apps versions on your phone so you will not be bothered with improvements in functionality, quality, security and other options. Too bad Cupcake is no longer available for you
Mine is unrooted, and still on 5.0.1.
I want to root, maybe install a ROM that is well maintained, but definitely want to prevent OTA updates, use Nova launcher, gapps, and be able to install from Google play store, and apk.
What's my best course as of now?
--sent from broadbandless rural America
bigbuc said:
Mine is unrooted, and still on 5.0.1.
I want to root, maybe install a ROM that is well maintained, but definitely want to prevent OTA updates, use Nova launcher,
gapps, and be able to install from Google play store, and apk.
What's my best course as of now?
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Above all, keep wifi off until you're rooted, updated and OTA is blocked.
I suggest: (1) use RootJunky's script and the option for rooting 5.0.1 and then (2) go here to update the OS and install Gapps and block OTA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594 This lets you keep the 5.0.1 bootloaders so you can load TWRP under OS 5.1.1 or 5.1.2. You can then use RootJunky script to install Nova.
Take the time to read this link before you do anything, it will provide you all your answers including how to go back to stock if needed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/help-thread-question-noob-friendly-t3205441
I am buying a unlocked note8. And I require root as a lot of my apps require it.... and it’s my understanding that I am going to need to stop the ota update in order to achieve root.
Can someone please tell me how to stop the ota update so I can root the device.
Hello,
Curious if are you going to run a custom rom or root and remove apps you don't want?
Tinythejuggalo said:
I am buying a unlocked note8. And I require root as a lot of my apps require it.... and it’s my understanding that I am going to need to stop the ota update in order to achieve root.
Can someone please tell me how to stop the ota update so I can root the device.
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Which model do you have? Snapdragon?
Generally you can disable the software update using a Package Disabler from the Play Store, or freeze it using Titanium Backup once rooted. Simply turning off the update option in Settings will not work long-term, as it would eventually update anyways. That's why you need to disable or freeze it.
In developers options you can also turn off auto update system. Usually after you root OTA updates won't function anymore anyway after the device status changes to custom. Or does that not apply for US Snapdragons & SamFail?
Can I temporarily disable it just long enough so I can root. Via samfail
Yes, just go in settings - software updates, there change to download updates manually... Job done: nothing will be updated unless you initiate it yourself...
Can update be stopped without root?
Most package disablers are not working,dev option not working.
Have gone back to oreo from pie don't want be forced back onto pie.
I have a rooted Galaxy s10+ with android pie. Doesn't freezing "Software Update" system apps of my android by Titanium Backup make booting problems for my device? Is it safe for me to freeze those apps? I ask because I've heard freezing some system apps like "Device Care" stops the device from booting. As other fellas I get ota update notifications and I wanna get rid of them by freezing those apps.
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Can update be stopped without root?
Most package disablers are not working,dev option not working.
Have gone back to oreo from pie don't want be forced back onto pie.
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I am disabling apps with a package disabler for them to still keep updating! So I have gone back to the method of disabling apps via ADB (no root needed this way)
It uninstalls it for the current user, but a factory reset will bring the app back if so needed. You can uninstall the update app with this method, or any other app for that matter. (Just be careful with what you disable)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...nstall-potentially-unneeded-unwanted-t3731062
Since latest Google Play Services update (14.7.99) that occured on 4th decembre 2018, my battery lasts only a couple of hours even if I am not using it. All Google Apps don't work anymore including Play Store.
When downgrading to version 14.5.82, everything works again but even if I disable automatic updates in Play Store, Google Play Services keeps updating itself to latest version without asking me any permission.
Is there a way to force block of Google Play Services update until a fix is found ?
Otherwise, does anyone can give me an updated guide for installing TWRP and an alternative ROM ?
I am using Flyme 6.2.0.0G. I have root access with SuperSU installed in system. Root access is confirmed with RootChecker. But I understood that this is not enough. Getting root access doesn't mean bootloader is unlocked, does it ? Is there a way checking bootloader is unlocked before trying to install TWRP ?
Thanks for any response you could give me.
bgillet said:
Since latest Google Play Services update (14.7.99) that occured on 4th decembre 2018, my battery lasts only a couple of hours even if I am not using it. All Google Apps don't work anymore including Play Store.
When downgrading to version 14.5.82, everything works again but even if I disable automatic updates in Play Store, Google Play Services keeps updating itself to latest version without asking me any permission.
Is there a way to force block of Google Play Services update until a fix is found ?
Otherwise, does anyone can give me an updated guide for installing TWRP and an alternative ROM ?
I am using Flyme 6.2.0.0G. I have root access with SuperSU installed in system. Root access is confirmed with RootChecker. But I understood that this is not enough. Getting root access doesn't mean bootloader is unlocked, does it ? Is there a way checking bootloader is unlocked before trying to install TWRP ?
Thanks for any response you could give me.
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There is a post on forum about unlocking bootloader and my tries on checking it on comments. See if it helps. Dont flash twrp without confirming bootloader unlock. Otherwise your recovery may lose and may cause brick.
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There is a post on forum about unlocking bootloader and my tries on checking it on comments. See if it helps. Dont flash twrp without confirming bootloader unlock. Otherwise your recovery may lose and may cause brick.
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Hi !
Thanks for the answer but which post precisely are you talking about because there are many ? Could you give me a link to it ?
Regards
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Otherwise, does anyone can give me an updated guide for installing TWRP and an alternative ROM ?
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I started to have this issue on 6/12/18. Google play services used 25% of my battery and I could not use any Google service. (It asked me to sign in again and again.)
I followed this guide (the flash recovery part is mistyped there, I needed fastboot flash recovery filename.xxx to install the new recovery). I downgraded to Flyme 4.5.2 (or whichever version allowed me root by signing in to Flyme), unlocked the recovery and installed AOSP. (CM12 had the same issue with google, Lineage OS didn't boot up.) When I sign in from AOSP, Google emails me that a login was made from a Meizu M6 Note. It thinks my device is safe. It even lets me download Netflix.
I also tried whitelisting my device and allowing less secure apps at Google while on CM, these didn't seem to help.
MEIZU is out of Google certificate.
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MEIZU is out of Google certificate.
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M2 is out. All new devices released on 2018 are google certified.
About it, custom rom doesn't work. Google Play Service does not work on Lineage Os.
Same here. I've tried to use custom Roms with Android 5.1, 7.1 and it's all the same.
On the other hand, I've got back to Flyme and the issue also occurs, but there's a slight difference. After the Play Store auto updates to v. 12.x.x. then it stops working (error 920 or can't log in). Resolution for this is to delete the Google account in Settings and add it again, yet this works for 5 minutes tops...