Could I boot into ADB sideload and use an 5.1.1 image from Amazon? And then root?
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Distinct feeling that will just make it have the same effect as using the OTA upgrade, but I'm not sure.
Is there a problem with using twrp?
AntDeek said:
Could I boot into ADB sideload and use an 5.1.1 image from Amazon? And then root?
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Indeed, you might as well just turn on OTA, and wait for it
You have to be able to root somehow, and the best way is through TWRP since otherwise 5.1.1 is currently impenetrable.
So if I wanted to do a fresh install I would just have to wait for the 5.1.1 root?
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Why on earth would you want to install 5.1.1?
Have you read what 5.1.1 does? See [PSA] Information Regarding Firmware Version 5.1.1.
Only safe way to install 5.1.1 is detailed here: HOWTO] Install FireOS 5.1.1, ROOT, GAPPS and keep TWRP access and even then you will be worse off on 5.1.1. I believe you can't remove any bloatware or the lockscreen ads.
In what way is installing it through twrp not a fresh install if (after backing up) you wipe it all? (assuming install files and backups made to an external sd)
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So if I wanted to do a fresh install I would just have to wait for the 5.1.1 root?
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Couldn't one factory reset in TWRP and then use bibikalka's upgrade/root method? (I'm asking.)
If you want a completely fresh install then you can just reinstall 5.0.1
No reason to go anywhere near 5.1.1
HOWTO How to restore frimware on your device + Amazon Frimware
Would it be possible to do a side load restore to 5.0.1 and then upgrade to 5.1.1 and wait for a root script and the google apps?
So long as you realise that they might never come.
If your tablet is functional atm I can't understand why you want to do something that might never work rather than something that does easily.
If you are on anything other than 5.1.1 atm see if you can swap with someone desperate to get rid of a Fire stuck on it.
So really I should just keep it on 5.0.1 rooted with Google launcher and see if 5.1.1 gets rooted
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Or just...
I don't know...
use twrp...
Some people (myself included at a certain point of time) just HAD to have the latest updated version, even though it sometimes is a downgrade really. Case in point is the current es file explorer.
That's how I am lol I feel the need to have the latest version
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julianpaul said:
Some people (myself included at a certain point of time) just HAD to have the latest updated version, even though it sometimes is a downgrade really. Case in point is the current es file explorer.
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What's wrong with ES?
AntDeek said:
So really I should just keep it on 5.0.1 rooted with Google launcher and see if 5.1.1 gets rooted
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5.1.1 can already be rooted (if installed through the proper procedure). See the link I posted.
blueberry.sky said:
Only safe way to install 5.1.1 is detailed here: HOWTO Install FireOS 5.1.1, ROOT, GAPPS and keep TWRP access and even then you will be worse off on 5.1.1. I believe you can't remove any bloatware or the lockscreen ads.
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You are in root & custom Rom land now. There will be so called "upgrades" to the amazon OS that provide zero upgrade, only serve to disable root, roms, debloating & adblocking.
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What's wrong with ES?
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http://www.xda-developers.com/es-file-explorer-a-short-story-of-a-fallen-king/
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AntDeek said:
Would it be possible to do a side load restore to 5.0.1 and then upgrade to 5.1.1 and wait for a root script and the google apps?
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Pond-life said:
If you are on anything other than 5.1.1 atm see if you can swap with someone desperate to get rid of a Fire stuck on it.
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I will buy your 5.0.1 Fire / trade. I am entirely serious.
If you want 5.1.1 and don't mind taking a chance, waiting for a new 5.1.1 root exploit to come out, I have another Fire on it's way to me from Amazon. It may very well come preloaded with 5.1.1. I will seriously trade. I need a custom rom, root doesn't do what I need.
I am not looking to sell my device I'm sorry friend!
So I am better off leaving 5.0.1 rooted in my Fire since it does everything I need it to.
Pond-life said:
What's wrong with ES?
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Unless you're on the pro version, you cannot disable the homepage, and the stupid cleaner function is a major annoyance. My opinion; others' may vary.
@blueberry.sky cheers for the link, reading now...
AntDeek said:
So I am better off leaving 5.0.1 rooted in my Fire since it does everything I need it to.
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Finally ! you got it !
Is there any downside to using 5.0.1 until 5.1.1 can be easily rooted?
AntDeek said:
Is there any downside to using 5.0.1 until 5.1.1 can be easily rooted?
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5.1.1 cannot be downgraded
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Hello
I can't do my 5.1 update on my rooted Nexus 6, it keeps error-ing. I'm guessing it's because I'm rooted. Thing is I can't find any way of doing the update while rooted, or unrooting, updating & rerooting without a PC, as I only have my Nexus 9 tablet (which is also rooted, though the update isn't showing on that yet).
Any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks
rockluvva said:
Hello
I can't do my 5.1 update on my rooted Nexus 6, it keeps error-ing. I'm guessing it's because I'm rooted. Thing is I can't find any way of doing the update while rooted, or unrooting, updating & rerooting without a PC, as I only have my Nexus 9 tablet (which is also rooted, though the update isn't showing on that yet).
Any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Do you have stock recovery?
Have you made any other mods other than root?
Hi RootSU. Yes, I have stock recovery. No other mods as yet.
rockluvva said:
Hi RootSU. Yes, I have stock recovery. No other mods as yet.
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Just unroot via SuperSU app in that case then.
Ok, but how do I re-root after?
rockluvva said:
Ok, but how do I re-root after?
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Any of the usual methods work. All guides are in general
I did browse but most said PC needed, which is why I asked. So I'll find non-PC options if I delve then?
I have a rooted s5, stock ROM just rooted to over clock and change emojis, neither of which were worth it. I have the ota alert for lolipop, I want to update, loosing root is fine. I searched about the results of doing ota I got mixed results. Will I brick if I update? Will I loose everything? If there is a thread or post about this and I'm that oblivious, please link it. All help is appreciated
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I have a rooted s5, stock ROM just rooted to over clock and change emojis, neither of which were worth it. I have the ota alert for lolipop, I want to update, loosing root is fine. I searched about the results of doing ota I got mixed results. Will I brick if I update? Will I loose everything? If there is a thread or post about this and I'm that oblivious, please link it. All help is appreciated
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Will not update. You need to remove root and get back to 100% stock firmware.
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norbarb said:
Will not update. You need to remove root and get back to 100% stock firmware.
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Is there anyway to do that without losing everything and flashing stock image? Backup I made magically has root
juantrickpony said:
Is there anyway to do that without losing everything and flashing stock image? Backup I made magically has root
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There is info how to get lollipop and keep root. And to keep everything you can use TB or Kies
norbarb said:
There is info how to get lollipop and keep root. And to keep everything you can use TB or Kies
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How would I go about getting to lollipop and removing root along the way while keeping data?
juantrickpony said:
How would I go about getting to lollipop and removing root along the way while keeping data?
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What is your software now?
You can try full unroot in super user app then ADB side load OTA updates.
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norbarb said:
What is your software now?
You can try full unroot in super user app then ADB side load OTA updates.
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Sorry for extremely late reply, I'm running 4.4.2 kit Kat
I appreciate any help here. My phone is stuck in limbo. At one time it was stock rooted. I was running xposed modules, so I know root was working. At one point I did a system reset losing all root capability.
I am attempting to upgrade to 5.0 and OTAs are failing. That is to be expected as I was rooted. I run rootchecker and it fails saying I am not rooted. OTAs don't work, I tried to reroot using towelroot-v3 and I get device not supported message. Can't use muniz's 5.0 method as root is failing.
How can I either get directly to 5.0 or get back to stock so I can take the OTA. I understand that means that there won't be root for me for a while, and I can live with that. I would prefer to have root capability though.
Can I get upgraded at a Samsung Experience Center in the state my phone is in?
Android Version - 4.4.2
Baseband: G900AAUCU2ANG3
Kernel Version: 3.4.0-2178781
cjranucci said:
Can I get upgraded at a Samsung Experience Center in the state my phone is in?
Android Version - 4.4.2
Baseband: G900AAUCU2ANG3
Kernel Version: 3.4.0-2178781
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3076803
I'm guessing you've seen this since you said you couldn't use his method, but what you need to download is the nce downgrade file. It's towards the bottom of the OP. Once your on nce you'll be able to root with towel root then go to 5.0 Muniz way.
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If you downgrade to the nce you'll also be able to take the ota if you want. But remember if you take the ota you will not be able to root it downgrade anymore.
OK, that worked. Thanks. What is the difference between the stock and deodexed ROMs?
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OK, that worked. Thanks. What is the difference between the stock and deodexed ROMs?
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Deodex is stock but will allow you to use xposed and theme etc. Stock is just that "stock" won't be able to mod very much. Deodex is what devs use when building roms.
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Deodex is stock but will allow you to use xposed and theme etc. Stock is just that "stock" won't be able to mod very much. Deodex is what devs use when building roms.
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Figured as much. I loaded the stock as with 5.0, there is not much need for Xposed for my uses. I mainly liked being able to bypass security requirements with Exchange, but Smart Lock seems to help here. I have a Moto360 and trusted device was working, but Smart Lock is now greyed out. I do have a fingerprint registered. Wonder why I can't get into Smart Lock now.
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Figured as much. I loaded the stock as with 5.0, there is not much need for Xposed for my uses. I mainly liked being able to bypass security requirements with Exchange, but Smart Lock seems to help here. I have a Moto360 and trusted device was working, but Smart Lock is now greyed out. I do have a fingerprint registered. Wonder why I can't get into Smart Lock now.
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Xposed is working on 5.0 now ( some features ) but mainly wanam is getting work done to it as well. I just installed wanam yesterday and the exchange bypass is working.
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Xposed is working on 5.0 now ( some features ) but mainly wanam is getting work done to it as well. I just installed wanam yesterday and the exchange bypass is working.
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Thanks Dodge. Just to clarify, that is one the deodexed ROM, right?
cjranucci said:
Thanks Dodge. Just to clarify, that is one the deodexed ROM, right?
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It should work on the deodex one. I'm running TMS2.0 so I'm not sure. Might want to go to the wanam page and find out for sure. You'll need to go there anyhow to get the beta version of it.
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have you been able to make any progress? I'm stuck where you are. Only I'm about to send my phone in for warranty and I want to get it back to "stock".
I more or less understand the differences between versions and the install process, but I wanted to double check some things..
I just bought a Fire 7 2015 with 5.1.1 on it. I've used SuperTool to root and all its other functions. I want to install a custom ROM. There's detailed information about 5.0.x and 5.1.2+, but 5.1.1 seems like an odd duck.
- What is the difference between 5.1.1 and 5.1.2? Aside from the system, does it have a different bootloader and recovery?
- 5.1..1 doesn't allow modifying the bootloader or recovery, right? Not even temp booting TWRP? So, is the recovery same as 5.1.2?
- So without TWRP, I have to use FlashFire on 5.1.1?
- To revert back to stock FW, I can sideload 5.1.1, right? I don't have to sideload 5.1.2?
- Any comments on a ROM? I've used CM and AOSP before, but never Slim. There is varying information regarding which ROMS can be used on which Fire versions.
TIA.
mageus said:
I more or less understand the differences between versions and the install process, but I wanted to double check some things..
I just bought a Fire 7 2015 with 5.1.1 on it. I've used SuperTool to root and all its other functions. I want to install a custom ROM. There's detailed information about 5.0.x and 5.1.2+, but 5.1.1 seems like an odd duck.
- What is the difference between 5.1.1 and 5.1.2? Aside from the system, does it have a different bootloader and recovery?
- 5.1..1 doesn't allow modifying the bootloader or recovery, right? Not even temp booting TWRP? So, is the recovery same as 5.1.2?
- So without TWRP, I have to use FlashFire on 5.1.1?
- To revert back to stock FW, I can sideload 5.1.1, right? I don't have to sideload 5.1.2?
- Any comments on a ROM? I've used CM and AOSP before, but never Slim. There is varying information regarding which ROMS can be used on which Fire versions.
TIA.
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5.1.1 can be easily upgraded to 5.1.2. The 5.1.1 bootloaders do not offer any good stuff (no TWRP), so not clear why keep them (other than hoping for the bugs found in the future). At this point prob only a few people have 5.1.1, so not much work would go into trying to hack 5.1.1 bootloaders specifically
Btw, I can easily add a package for preserving 5.1.1 bootloaders, if there is any demand ... See this post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
with 5.1.1 you can easily gain temporary root
fastboot oem append-cmdline "androidboot.unlocked_kernel=true"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362
Kramar111 said:
with 5.1.1 you can easily gain temporary root
fastboot oem append-cmdline "androidboot.unlocked_kernel=true"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362
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So sounds like one should try to keep it !
mageus said:
I more or less understand the differences between versions and the install process, but I wanted to double check some things..
I just bought a Fire 7 2015 with 5.1.1 on it. I've used SuperTool to root and all its other functions. I want to install a custom ROM. There's detailed information about 5.0.x and 5.1.2+, but 5.1.1 seems like an odd duck.
TIA.
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Kramar111 said:
with 5.1.1 you can easily gain temporary root
fastboot oem append-cmdline "androidboot.unlocked_kernel=true"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362
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I've updated the post, it's possible now to keep 5.1.1 bootloaders if desired :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
I started with 5.1.1 used slim ROM since then flashed with flashfire and never looked back haven't updated because I haven't encountered any bugs I couldn't fix on my own and battery life has been respectable under the hood I don't know the difference I know it runs to perfection and that's what I wanted
PS. I want to thank the developers for their hard work on this device is the only device I've been happy with and didn't go on a flash spree to find something i like
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mageus said:
... but I wanted to double check some things..
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bibikalka said:
So sounds like one should try to keep it !
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Sometimes a stupid question is worthwhile, eh?
Thanx for the clarifications. What everyone has said makes sense. I installed CM12, which works great. I'll stay with the 5.1.1 bl/recov for now since FlashFire works so well, and there's a temp-root option.
hi guys. I was running the Nexus fire Rom using flashfire. its was on 5.1.2. I tried to flash the new updated version from this year of nexus fire from a clean wipe and now I dont have play store or anything. i cant remember the intial root process...its been while. I'm a little fuzzy as to how everything work cuz of the locked bootloader.
I dont have play store. i tried to side load flashfire into my downloads from pc but it wont show. it say dowloads empty. i literally have clock, calculator, downloads, settings and SU. i dunno what to do at this point. why arent the apks showing in downloads? any help is apprecaited. sad to see there is no real root yet..
havikx said:
hi guys. I was running the Nexus fire Rom using flashfire. its was on 5.1.2. I tried to flash the new updated version from this year of nexus fire from a clean wipe and now I dont have play store or anything. i cant remember the intial root process...its been while. I'm a little fuzzy as to how everything work cuz of the locked bootloader.
I dont have play store. i tried to side load flashfire into my downloads from pc but it wont show. it say dowloads empty. i literally have clock, calculator, downloads, settings and SU. i dunno what to do at this point. why arent the apks showing in downloads? any help is apprecaited. sad to see there is no real root yet..
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There is "real" root on FireOS 5.1.2. Best option is to sideload (reinstall) that build of FireOS via stock recovery then use the SuperTool to root and prepare your device for installation of Nexus. Going through that process will refresh your memory. A few tips:
- be sure to get the 5.1.2 binary; no higher/lower
- don't register with Amazon on initial boot
- keep off WiFi to avoid forced OTA update to an unrootable FireOS build
- be sure to flash the version of Nexus ROM that includes GAaps; you likely used the ROM only variant on your last refresh attempt
Davey126 said:
There is "real" root on FireOS 5.1.2. Best option is to sideload (reinstall) that build of FireOS via stock recovery then use the SuperTool to root and prepare your device for installation of Nexus. Going through that process will refresh your memory. A few tips:
- be sure to get the 5.1.2 binary; no higher/lower
- don't register with Amazon on initial boot
- keep off WiFi to avoid forced OTA update to an unrootable FireOS build
- be sure to flash the version of Nexus ROM that includes GAaps; you likely used the ROM only variant on your last refresh attempt
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now that you mention, thats probably exactly what i forgot to do. Also, i'm on 5.1.1. My bad. As far as i know, 5.1.1 system still has that locked bootloader preventing android upgrades. Though I havent kept up with development too much. Ill get started on returning to stock and rerooting. Hope this little tablet get a breakthru in the near future!
ok, so i sideloaded flashfire thru ADB and decided to switch over to lineage. thanks for your help. easier than returning to stock.
havikx said:
ok, so i sideloaded flashfire thru ADB and decided to switch over to lineage. thanks for your help. easier than returning to stock.
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Agreed. The technique you used doesn't work for everyone; hence my generic 'return-to-stock and redo everything' guidance. Glad you are back in business with minimum fuss.