I am trying to figure out whats the difference between them , I understand one is made for china and one is for taiwan. But I wanted to know which is better, which has more bands that it supports, which would get updates faster and which could possibly run custom roms.
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petya098 said:
I am trying to figure out whats the difference between them , I understand one is made for china and one is for taiwan. But I wanted to know which is better, which has more bands that it supports, which would get updates faster and which could possibly run custom roms.
Thank You
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I don't have any of the above models but you can take a look here if you want to see the differences : http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=8683&id2=8796
n9200 is sold in mainland china, hongkong and macao, it has two software versions, one for mainland china, one for hongkong/macao.
the one for mainland china has google framework removed, with some more chinese native apps added.
the one for hongkong has google framwork and google apps, and is good for international usage.
the two software versions share the same hardware, and can be flashed on the same phone without losing warranty.
n9208 is the southeast asia version, it's sold in taiwan, malaysia, etc.
n9200 has a little more bands than n9208, where all the bands in n9208 is included in n9200.
I would recommend you to buy the n9200 if you are choosing between the two, and if you got the mainland china version, you can flash the hongkong firmware.
btw, I got a n9200 for 4000RMB on taobao just a month ago, good and cheap.
edit: if you buy a n9200 hongkong version, you get warranty in hongkong, macao and mainland china,
if you buy a n9200 mainland chinese version, you only get warranty in mainland china.
n9208 would give you warranty in the country you brought
none have international warranty.
I got N9200 (HK version) in Japan and it's working great. :good:
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Sorry if there is an answer for this, but I can't find it. I was wondering if anyone can tell me if the Chinese version (ME863) comes with the Android Market (and other Google Apps) or not?
I don't mean the version sold by China Unicom, I mean a generic one sold by a third party (say amazon.cn), unless of course the software is the same.
If not, how easy would it be to add (I have flashed/rooted other phones before, I just don't know about the ME863)?
The generic one, sold in Hong Kong for a few weeks now, has the normal market. It's a normal Android phone, with all the Google apps, plus a few Motorola apps... I do believe the one sold in China must be exactly the same thing.
Ok thanks for your reply. I might just buy a HK version anyway to be on the safe side: they're very easy to find and a tiny bit cheaper as well.
When I went to a Motorola desk in Xidan none of the phones had Google apps, but that could've been because they were the China Unicom/China Mobile variants even though it didn't say they were.
My retail ME863's version code includes "SLNCU" so I suspect the hardware's identical. There wasn't any marking on the packaging except TSN (The HK Motorola distributor). I got mine through a website though, so I never saw it in-store.
Mine's running 60.1.103, while the known ME863 SBF image is marked 60.1.101, doesn't include Google Mobile Service, and doesn't offer an OTA upgrade to 60.1.103, so I guess it's a carrier-specific fork.
So checking the firmware version will tell 'em apart, and I _guess_ that if an SBF shows up for the HK Retail version (or potentially Taiwan, I guess) it'd be safe to cross-grade.
The other option would be to flash Google Mobile Service onto a China Unicom device. There's a link to the package in the ME863 SBF thread.
I hadn't realised there was an Carrier-branded ME863... I guessed that the ME863 was basically the UMTS version of the XT883, but I don't know where in China is UMTS and where is CDMA so I was assuming mainland is CDMA while HK and TW are UMTS.
Thanks for the info. No I don't think there's a China Unicom branded device (AFAIK Unicom themselves don't offer the device but yes there is a PRC UMTS version). i.e. it's obviously for China Unicom and I believe it is customised to accomodate that, but its not branded for it.
I couldn't get a look at the actual one, and the service reps didn't know about the Google thing, but none of the other seemingly generic models included Google Apps (for example the Atrix 2 - whatever its Chinese name is).
One more question about the HK version (if you don't mind!): what locales does it include? I believe its en-GB, en-US, zh-CN and zh-HK, correct?
By the way: UMTS and CDMA are both nationally available: China Unicom uses UMTS for 3G while China Mobile uses some weird version of CDMA (one that only they use if I'm not mistaken). Both use GSM for 2G
According to MoreLocale 2 I have English UK and US, and Chinese China + Taiwan... The Android locale settings simply offers English UK and US and Chinese Traditional and Simplified.
My ME863 is build SLNCU ("Solana China Unicom"? I'd been assuming that U was "Unlocked" or "UMTS") but product is SLNHK, where the XT883 is product SLNCT ("Solana China Telecom") and (at least in the first SBF thread I found using Google) the build doesn't contain a name.
This got me looking, and there's a couple of oddities here:
ro.product.locale.region is TW, although ro.product.name is SLNHK and ro.build.id is SLNCU-60.1.103
ro.build.config.version is GAS_ASIA_SOLANAUMTSHKTWN_P017 and ro.build.version.carrier is ChinaRetail. So the _rom_ is obviously shared between HK and TW.
So apart from the build branch, I can't see anything that indicate mine's built towards China Unicom requirements, but it might be that the only difference between the rom build in the HK Retail devices and the ones you're seeing in Xidan _is_ lack of Google Apps.
I hope that helps? It reminded me to tell my phone I'm in not in Australia anymore. ^_^
I'm currently in China, and I have ordered my One. My Chinese level isn't so good, so I am unsure if the phone I am getting is the international version or the Chinese version. Looking on the HTC China website, it is advertising the model with the removable back cover. Anyone with greater knowledge on these matters than me know if these phones will be compatible for the Roms/kernels that will be made for the international version?
As far as I know, the only difference is the inclusion of dual sim cards and the micro sim.
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I'm currently in China, and I have ordered my One. My Chinese level isn't so good, so I am unsure if the phone I am getting is the international version or the Chinese version. Looking on the HTC China website, it is advertising the model with the removable back cover. Anyone with greater knowledge on these matters than me know if these phones will be compatible for the Roms/kernels that will be made for the international version?
As far as I know, the only difference is the inclusion of dual sim cards and the micro sim.
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It's hard to say because of the limited information still available on the Chinese variants. Typically the China Unicom version is closest to the international version and with other devices, international Roms work. China mobile will definitely not work because they use TD-CDMA which is unique to China mobile only. China telecom should also be similar to China unicom version.
I am buying straight from HTC, but they are advertising the removable back cover on their website... So I am unsure if that means they won't be selling the international version in their retail stores.
ataft said:
I am buying straight from HTC, but they are advertising the removable back cover on their website... So I am unsure if that means they won't be selling the international version in their retail stores.
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the HTC china version is different from international, it has 3 version TDCDMA, WCDMA, and CDMA2000. the WCDMA varience support two sim card (one WCDMA micro sim one GSM normal sim), pls micro sd card.
i'm also in China and actually interesting in this model as well, but there will probably be very little XDA support(custom rom) , so i may end up getting the international version.
also note that the WCDMA only support 900/2100MHz band.
I'm just about to make the same decisions.
Now that I've ruled out the Xperia Z and am getting ready to buy the HTC One, I'm surely interested in the benefits of having an SD-slot as well as Dual Sim support, but worry that I might not get to participate on the customs rom frenzy, even if it is just to get rid of all the pre-installed Unicom crap.
Has anybody had the chance to try it out yet?
Hi guys. I am looking to purchase the Note 9 from eglobalcentraluk. com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-n960fd-dual-sim-6gb-128gb-with-gerenic-0.3mm-3d-curved-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-midnight-black.html
This is an international version, and from what I can tell, it's the 5th one down on this list, techwalls. com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/ the SM-N960FD Duos, for Asia, India, and Singapore.
I live in the UK, and am looking to flash this with UK firmware so I can use samsung pay, and to avoid other annoyances. Can someone tell me if this would work? When finding the firmware on sammobile, when it says type 'my model number,' will the SM-N960F work? It doesn't get anymore specific in terms of SM-N960F**** etc.
I use BT mobile which uses EE networks. Would it be best to flash the EE version?
Thanks for your help!
I paid £700 for a brand new condition (charged once) N960F on Ebay. For the tiny saving, I'd just get a proper UK phone.
Just get it, you don't need to flash anything, the N960f works in the UK no different to one bought from a UK retailer, there's already several threads about this. I've been using the N960f for over a week now, flashing any firmware to it isn't going to change anything, needlessly flashing anything on any device is only opening you up to more risks.
From what I gather, the N960F IS the UK version, if you look at all the variants there's no UK spwcific one at all, so I'm pretty certain the global variant is what is on sale in the UK, all other variants are USA and Asian.
Get it from Samsung UK, if ever you need warranty you wish you had. And you can get a good trade in. Pick up a cgwap note 3 and get £200 trade in value. Join the upgrade program get 24 months interest fee credit too
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Hi,
I received dual sim version of NOte9. It is unfortunately SM-N9600 verision, which I can see is LATM region. It came with uk charging brick though. ANy chances to chave the region changed (snapdragon) obviosly, preferably to European?
That is not possible as the N9600 is designed for the Asian market. That said it should work perfectly in the UK as it is a GSM device. However you won't be able to use Samsung Pay
It was sold on amazon.co.uk described as International version. And the phone was equipped with 3 pin UK charger, which I believe was a false advertising and re-boxed. I contacted the seller, but I will also file a claim on Amazon. Disappointing. I am getting Chinese notifications from time to time, that's why I wanted to flash English language based Rome, in terns of region. Not possible than?
That's seem strange, I ordered and received the N9600 version (particularly dual sim blue 8/512).
I live in Europe, where the official is exynos version.
My phone works flawlessly, no Chinese notifications, during initial setup I had all language choices.
Only some particular services provided by my local GSM services are not supported (like wifi calling or volte)
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Yes, but 9600 is not an international version, is it?
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Yes, but 9600 is not an international version, is it?
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Well hong Kong and latin America so sort of international.
If your getting Chinese stuff on there even though you said yours is latin it must be running chinese firmware. Id suggest flashing latin america firmware to try and get rid of that annoyance.
Use fw.updato.com and get a Latam version of the firmware to flash in Odin. That'll get rid of Smart Manager and the other Chinese crap.
force70 said:
Well hong Kong and latin America so sort of international.
If your getting Chinese stuff on there even though you said yours is latin it must be running chinese firmware. Id suggest flashing latin america firmware to try and get rid of that annoyance.
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I had what I assume was a Chinese notification on my phone the other day, in one of the Samsung apps. My phone is an International N960F/DS supplied directly from Samsung UK and running 2 UK SIMs so it may not be firmware dependant...
He has a n9600 not 960f....that phone can comes from HK or latin america.
In his case yes it can be firmware.
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I had what I assume was a Chinese notification on my phone the other day, in one of the Samsung apps. My phone is an International N960F/DS supplied directly from Samsung UK and running 2 UK SIMs so it may not be firmware dependant...
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Sent from my Note 9 exynos, S9 plus exynos, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
p.dixon0 said:
I had what I assume was a Chinese notification on my phone the other day, in one of the Samsung apps. My phone is an International N960F/DS supplied directly from Samsung UK and running 2 UK SIMs so it may not be firmware dependant...
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It was a misconfiguration, I suspect, where the Galaxy app had announcement in Korean about some offers for the users in South Korea. That has now disappeared.
Zacharee1 said:
Use fw.updato.com and get a Latam version of the firmware to flash in Odin. That'll get rid of Smart Manager and the other Chinese crap.
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Sorry i am off topic but i want to ask you if your amazing app sa2ration works on Exynos Note 9. I am interested to buy it! Thanks!
nathasnajperowa said:
That's seem strange, I ordered and received the N9600 version (particularly dual sim blue 8/512).
I live in Europe, where the official is exynos version.
My phone works flawlessly, no Chinese notifications, during initial setup I had all language choices.
Only some particular services provided by my local GSM services are not supported (like wifi calling or volte)
Wysłane z mojego SM-N9600 przy użyciu Tapatalka
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hey there, just wondering, did you buy that version for root?
also, do you have any issues with speeds /carrier aggregation?
I bought this version for gpu performance.
LTE and overall data speed and band aggregations works flawlessly. No issues at all.
Exynos was not capable in gaming and everyday smoothness and speed in every day scenario
Catch the proper info from professional
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13582/samsung-galaxy-note9-performance-review-snapdragon-vs-exynos
I'm planning to buy the SD 888 version but unfortunately it's not sold in europe.
I've heard of many people who import the phone from HK, China or US. But I can't find the right websites.
Can anyone help me with that? Maybe a tip for cheap sites or something would be so nice
If you know someone in the US or HK?
Wondamobile.com had the China Snapdragon model in stock last time I checked.
Wondamobile.com got mine there im from sweden.
Thanks guys! I thought maybe someone lives in US and could tell me a few of their shop names
Wondamobile is very expensive...so sad.
Got mine from eglobalcentraleu.com, but also checked Wondamobile and tradingshenzhen.com before taking the plunge.
inpression said:
Got mine from eglobalcentraleu.com, but also checked Wondamobile and tradingshenzhen.com before taking the plunge.
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Shop got closed
skrippi said:
Thanks guys! I thought maybe someone lives in US and could tell me a few of their shop names
Wondamobile is very expensive...so sad.
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Are you joking now? WondaMobile prices are less than what you have in your country of living! Also, the version you should go for is Hong Kong or Taiwan! The chinese one has no Google services for you.
If you don't like to deal with Wonda .. check out https://eu.etoren.com/
But i recommend Wonda because they have better service.
Another thing, why you are looking for Snapdragon variant? I had that (bought from Wonda) for about 3 months but i sold it and got the Exynos that is sold in Europe, i find the battery life a little better with Exynos than Snapdragon. The performance is the same, i felt that Exynos has more power sometimes than Snapdragon.
Don't forget that you get only 1 year warranty (it's not valid within Europe) when you buy any Snapdragon version, you need to return the phone to the store you bought it from and they fix it by themselves which means they don't send it further to Samsung workshop ... you have to pay for the shipment almost 50 USD... But with Exynos, you have 2 years warranty within EU and you don't need to ship it anywhere, just look for Samsung Workshop that is close to you and drop it off there.
A last thing also, you have to accept that some features may not work well if you import your phone from these asian countries or even from America. The same with the 3G/4G/5G networks, especially 5G, it is not supporting more than one band in Europe, so you will have to live with that if you want to go for Snapdragon variant.