Hi guys
This is the first time EVER I've seen. Last night I'd flash factory image 6.0.1 and SuperSU 2.61 with stock boot.img using system-less root method. Things went fine and I went to bed.
Woke up this morning and saw a notification from my bank (Chase) on the notification panel, I touch it and to my suprise, Chase app asking SuperSU permission so I granted it but did not open the app (Chase) and went online to researching to no avail.
So I then open Chase app and saw the toasted notification stated that Chase has been grant an inactive shell permission.
I've using Android and manually rooted, not using toolkits for years and this is the first time ever I saw a financial app seeking root . Kinda strange to me or is it due to the state of system-less rooting method? Did any of you guys ever seen this?
It asked me for root permissions as well. I denied it, and it seems to be working fine. I cannot think of any reason imaginable why Chase would want su access, and I also can't think of any reason why I'd want to allow it.
You guys sure this is the actual bank site or maybe it could be a bogus phishing site. Bank apps are not happy with root generaly.
This is the Chase app from the Play Store, which I've been using for years. I don't recall when I first noticed that it was requesting root, but it was a while ago. I just denied it and never thought twice about it, as it was fully functional.
gregg1ep00 said:
This is the Chase app from the Play Store, which I've been using for years. I don't recall when I first noticed that it was requesting root, but it was a while ago. I just denied it and never thought twice about it, as it was fully functional.
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Sounds weird to me, i`d check it if i we`re you. Can`t imagine a bank or government app for instance requesting root that makes a device per definition less secure
gee2012 said:
i`d check it if i we`re you. Can`t imagine a bank or government app for instance requesting root that makes a device per definition less secure
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Agreed. Hopefully this thread will continue and someone can shed some light on this. I'll look into it as well.
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It may have something to do with restricting what you can do with the app if you have root. Just saw this review for the Chase Freedom Mobile app on Play Store:
gregg1ep00 said:
Agreed. Hopefully this thread will continue and someone can shed some light on this. I'll look into it as well.
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It may have something to do with restricting what you can do with the app if you have root. Just saw this review for the Chase Freedom Mobile app on Play Store:
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Oke, its better to be safe then to be sorry
There is NO WAY in the world that ANY REAL Chase app would ever ask for root...I'd get rid of that app, and do a full wipe of my phone...
They may make a request for elevated permission to ensure it fails? Sort of checking to ensure things are secure?
As scryan says above, it's very possible the application checks for various indicators that the phone has root and adjusts its behavior if so. I know the application already explicitly blocks screenshots.
Such behavior wouldn't be too surprising. Root access is a large security hole in that any application with root access can access private storage for any other location. Combine that kind of access with the application's ability to make financial transactions from within the application and you have a major risk.
Just checked, the app does ask for root.....
Lmao!!!!
gee2012 said:
You guys sure this is the actual bank site or maybe it could be a bogus phishing site. Bank apps are not happy with root generaly.
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I'm sure that the app is/was downloaded from Play store and I've used it extensively but never have seen root permission seeking prior to flashing 6.0.1 and system-less root method.
Like you, I'm highly doubt when app from financial institution and government asking for root permission .
Will wait to see more info from other users before contacting my bank.
Same here. I uninstalled and reinstalled. It's probably a security measure? Anyway, until I hear otherwise I'm not using the app.
I can't remember but I believe coamerica bank app did the same thing but it went away with a update.
anyone thought to call chase and ask? they have always been a great bank to me.
@Chainfire any ideas?
All these questions could be answered by someone running a logcat to see what it is doing. Might want to get used to it. With the changes to android making root harder and more and more apps checking for root/xposed. You will soon have to choice between using the app or being modded. We all see it coming to that.
I once had the My Verizon Mobile app ask for root access. I lol'd at it then quickly deleted it.
This is a security check for the app. I know the Blizzard Authenticator used to do a root check and wouldn't even work if you allowed it root access.
What I did to get it to work, is try to open the app. It will hang there in the gray screen. Go to your home screen, open the supersu app and simply delete the entry for chase.
Press the recent apps button and switch back to Chase app. It will load normally, without asking for root again. Only problem is that you have to do it every time.
Hope it works for you guys as well.
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Is there any workaround...?
Whats the problem ?
All the apps i have ever bought / downloaded, via the market work fine.
I believe this is what he's talking about
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
http://androinica.com/2009/02/23/some-paid-apps-unavailable-on-unlocked-phones/
It appears that as of February, Google made it so whenever a developer selects the "Copy Protected" option when listing their application on the marketplace, that application will not appear for any rooted phone or developer phone. Basically it seems they did this because a rooted or developer phone can extract the APK file after purchasing an app, and then return it while still keeping the application.
I recently became aware of this today as I was working with a developer to determine why his application would not appear in the market. It's a shame - the majority of the root community is not out there to STEAL apps, we support our developers, I was trying to find his application on the market so I could BUY it. I really wanted to purchase the application and now I have no way to do it, simply because I wanted to use my phone to it's full extent instead of being stuck on the stock firmware.
rabeatz said:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
http://androinica.com/2009/02/23/some-paid-apps-unavailable-on-unlocked-phones/
It appears that as of February, Google made it so whenever a developer selects the "Copy Protected" option when listing their application on the marketplace, that application will not appear for any rooted phone or developer phone. Basically it seems they did this because a rooted or developer phone can extract the APK file after purchasing an app, and then return it while still keeping the application.
I recently became aware of this today as I was working with a developer to determine why his application would not appear in the market. It's a shame - the majority of the root community is not out there to STEAL apps, we support our developers, I was trying to find his application on the market so I could BUY it. I really wanted to purchase the application and now I have no way to do it, simply because I wanted to use my phone to it's full extent instead of being stuck on the stock firmware.
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Any example of apps not showing up on the market for us?
Gilliland12 said:
Any example of apps not showing up on the market for us?
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Search for the application Accudial on the market. It's copy protected. I get 0 results. Thats the one Example I am aware of but it also could be related to the fact that I'm on a 2.0.1 ROM instead of the older ones, switching back to test again. It's kind of hard to determine whether or not there are apps being hidden from us, if we don't know the app exists how are we gonna know it's hidden from our results?
It's because your on a Eclair rom..just searched on the WG 10 (Donut) and got AccuDial and AccuDial Free
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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I can find all of those apps they mention.
Dunno.
rabeatz said:
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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They did lift the "block", I know of at least 2 protected apps that I can use, Nesoid and Mobile Defense (not protected anymore but it ised to be)
Right now, I can only find Accudial Free but not Accudial. I'm on Cyan 4.2.9.1.
Maybe that's because I'm not in the US??? Or that I don't have a Google Checkout account???
Thanks!
rabeatz said:
Yeah I'm switching back to the latest CM ROM right now. But when I was running 2.0.1/Eclair, I was trying to download an application designed for 2.0 and it did not appear in the market - the developer said the only requirement he placed on it was that the phone be 2.0 or higher, so we came to the conclusion that it was the copy protection blocking the app.
But regardless of that - what about those links in my first post? Google Employees reply in those articles openly admitting that access to copy protected apps have been blocked from rooted and dev phones. Did Google quietly "undo" this between now and then? I can't find anything that says they did.
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That was a long time ago.
supremeteam256 said:
That was a long time ago.
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The fair labor standards act was passed in 1938. Still in effect today. Just because Google made the change 10 months ago doesn't mean it suddenly was removed.. Whenever I search on the topic all I can find is info that says that access to copy protected apps been disallowed, can't find any article that mentions them removing the block.
I'm not saying it hasn't been removed, but it's kind of hard for me to know whether or not i'm being blocked from applications, I don't know what ones are copy protected and what ones aren't, or if theyre being blocked from me, because they simply wouldn't show up and I wouldn't even know they exist.
If the block has in fact been removed, it'd be nice to see if anyone could find an article that mentions it. Everything online talks about the block being placed
rabeatz said:
The fair labor standards act was passed in 1938. Still in effect today. Just because Google made the change 10 months ago doesn't mean it suddenly was removed.. Whenever I search on the topic all I can find is info that says that access to copy protected apps been disallowed, can't find any article that mentions them removing the block.
I'm not saying it hasn't been removed, but it's kind of hard for me to know whether or not i'm being blocked from applications, I don't know what ones are copy protected and what ones aren't, or if theyre being blocked from me, because they simply wouldn't show up and I wouldn't even know they exist.
If the block has in fact been removed, it'd be nice to see if anyone could find an article that mentions it. Everything online talks about the block being placed
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Search Nesoid, that is a protected app. If you see the paid version then they lifted the block
Have you ran market enabler?
supremeteam256 said:
Have you ran market enabler?
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What's that...?
Edit: Got it... http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/ And it works... Thanks for the tip...!
Edit 2: Market Enabler works by mimicking certain APNs, be sure to backup your current APN first and restore it after getting the apps (it can be done within Market Enabler).
Cheers.
A few days ago I rooted my G900T S5 with Towelroot and all went well.
About five minutes ago I was changing my font and the phone had to reboot. When it came back on line the first thing that came up in notifications was a security warning from Google. The warning said that i should immediately uninstall the Towelroot app because it is known for breaching Google's Security policy.
I thought that was kinda weird. I know they warn you about third party apps, etc..., but all my previous Android phones have been rooted and i never got a warning from Google.
That's it. Just thought I'd share that thought on the notification.
@ fffft
I'm aware of Google's corporate greed and wanting to have control of all aspects of our personal electronics, even though they let Android be open source. I was surprised to get that notice from them because for the last 5 years starting with my Captivate, every phone I've had has been Samsung Galaxy of some model or another, 5 different phones all have been rooted and custom roms and until the other night never had Google send a notification saying to remove an apk file because it is a root file. I have to assume because towelroot is an actual third party apk and sits in the files. All other root styles that I've used, Odin, Heimdall, aren't an apk file that sits in the phones files.
So that must be the reason for the warning. It wasn't a warning because it rooted the phone, it did it because it was a third party app. It doesn't matter what the app is, although it does matter what it does. So I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
You do realise Google only wants to protect you because Towelroot works off of a security exploit right? You do realise that a malicious app can do the same thing that Towelroot did to you phone and gain root access without your permission right?
The difference between CF autoroot and other root methods is that it can only be done with consent, whereas any application can utilise a security exploit without your knowledge or permission.
OH WAIT OFC ITS GOOGLE BEING AN EVIL GREEDY COMPANY UGH GOOGLE PLZ
@Hellscythe
I'm not gonna start an argument over whether or not Google or any other company is greedy and wants our money or not. Because we all know the answer to that argument. Businesses are in business to make a profit and as much profit ad they can every fiscal year. Bottom line end of that discussion.
The post I wrote wasn't whether or not Google was being greedy. If you read it correctly, it is me wondering why I got the notification and then after I realized that it wasn't about the phone being rooted it was about the security breach possibilities. Which you so aptly brought up again captain obvious.
So thanks for your input. Your two cents was well spent. MOD EDIT: Inappropriate comment removed! Please read forum rules on conduct!
Hi,
As Xposed apparently won't be ported soon to LP if ever, I was wondering if I update to LP (Galaxy S4 got GE LP), what options I have to protect my privacy and manage those permissions? I am too much spoiled by Xprivacy I doubt if there is anything as good as Xprivacy but need at least something that can do a minimum job to block and deny some permissions.
Thanks for all your suggestions
P.S I was also thinking of making a post to list all alternatives to different xposed module, what do you guy say ? I can keep the OP uptodate if you share your alternative Mods/Apps to xposed modules
Alternative solution I am personally using right know which serve me quite well till we have some real privacy mod/tool :
You will need 2 apps :
- AFWall+ (open source firewall) : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.ukanth.ufirewall
- App Ops : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission
Ideally to prevent leaks, install them before installing or restoring any data after flashing your ROM
1- In AFWall+
- Enable the Firewall by pressing 3 dot menu and Enable firewall,
- Then for apps which you want to grant access Check the Icons First is for LAN Network acces, 2nd is for Wifi Internet, 3rd is your Mobile Data (some system apps like Media server, download etc.. must have internet access other wise Youtube, or downloading in browsers wont work, read the FAQ question for more info.)
- Once all app you want to grant access are checked, click on 3 dot menu and click Apply. (each time you change permission don't forget to apply).
2- App Ops : This one is very easy all Apps installed are organized by Type of permissions you go in and then uncheck the permission to to Block it, once ou are in App you will see all blockable Permissions that this app is asking not only of that category and that is handy
Please Note that App Ops don't list and block each and every permissions, but most essentials are there. Combined with AFWall you are good to go to protect your privacy till some good Mod or Xposed for LP come out.
Now instead of being fully naked without Xprivacy on LP, now we are at least in Bikini
App ops? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=droidmate.appopsinstaller
Nothing as good as Xprivacy. I'm still on KK and I'll stay on this version for a while I guess.
FYI: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/protecting-your-privacy-app-ops-privacy-guard-and-xprivacy/
not as good as xprivacy
frigidazzi said:
App ops? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=droidmate.appopsinstaller
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App ops deny permission per app basis, but sometimes denying permission break the app, xprivacy instead send fake data to the app, so you can still use the app without giving your real info
Xposed and Xprivacy are just the single best privacy guards
I know but how long can we stay on KK at one point we need to update or when we buy future devices there won't be any choices. So we need to find alternatives to all those xposed modules
Netuser said:
I know but how long can we stay on KK at one point we need to update or when we buy future devices there won't be any choices. So we need to find alternatives to all those xposed modules
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From what I can see, devs are more interested in custom roms/kernels rather than in security/privacy purposes.
Marcel (M66B) is almost ready for Lollipop. We 'just' need Xposed. He is also working on another project which could have the same goal (no available information).
I really hope that rovo89 have enough motivation and will be successful in developing Xposed for Lollipop.
I don't want to loose control because of Google updates. Future devices is another subject and I think there is still a long way to go before not being able to use a KK device.
i really think that a moderator should open a thread for indexing all of the 'Alternative to xposed mod *name* for LP 5.0.*'
just until we will have xposed or something else for android L...
There is "privacy guard" by cyanogenmod in cm12, I think it sends fake data too instead of just block the permission. But you have to install custom rom for this.
haimn said:
There is "privacy guard" by cyanogenmod in cm12, I think it sends fake data too instead of just block the permission. But you have to install custom rom for this.
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This does not offer the same level of protection. I would not call Privacy Guard an alternative of Xprivacy.
There is no real alternative for Xprivacy, but at least it is something
I won't stay on a old version of Android only because one developer is going like "i'm god, don't ask me questions" ... we will never see xposed for LP, get used to it and move on.
I have moved to LP as I couldn't just leave my self open to all privacy leak, I came up with a solution while waiting for Xposed or any other other Mod to come out.
I have updated the OP with my solution . here is what i am doing :
Alternative solution I am personally using right know which serve me quite well till we have some real privacy mod/tool :
You will need 2 apps :
- AFWall+ (open source firewall) : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.ukanth.ufirewall
- App Ops : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission
Ideally to prevent leaks, install them before installing or restoring any data after flashing your ROM
1- In AFWall+
- Enable the Firewall by pressing 3 dot menu and Enable firewall,
- Then for apps which you want to grant access Check the Icons First is for LAN Network acces, 2nd is for Wifi Internet, 3rd is your Mobile Data (some system apps like Media server, download etc.. must have internet access other wise Youtube, or downloading in browsers wont work, read the FAQ question for more info.)
- Once all app you want to grant access are checked, click on 3 dot menu and click Apply. (each time you change permission don't forget to apply).
2- App Ops : This one is very easy all Apps installed are organized by Type of permissions you go in and then uncheck the permission to to Block it, once ou are in App you will see all blockable Permissions that this app is asking not only of that category and that is handy
Please Note that App Ops don't list and block each and every permissions, but most essentials are there. Combined with AFWall you are good to go to protect your privacy till some good Mod or Xposed for LP come out.
Now instead of being fully naked without Xprivacy on LP, now we are at least in Bikini
Thanks pal, I'll give it a try later
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I've installed LBE Security Master, which finally has Lollipop support. Search xda for translated version.
CptChaosNL said:
I've installed LBE Security Master, which finally has Lollipop support. Search xda for translated version.
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Yes! the bootloop problem is finally solved hahaha
nEUTRon666 said:
I won't stay on a old version of Android only because one developer is going like "i'm god, don't ask me questions" ... we will never see xposed for LP, get used to it and move on.
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Well, the saying goes "Do Not Feed The Trolls", yet here I am, feeding one: He does not play "god". He has a valid point by saying that it is his hobby, and should stay his hobby. If he feels like it, he could leave XDA and the whole Android-platform completely, and I would be fine with this decision and others should be, too! It is and has to be his choice, and if he does not find the time, muse, etc., then it is how it is.
You clearly have no idea how coding works, how Lollipop works, how the xposed framework works, else you would shut up and be patient.
If you are so much better than him, do it yourself. Everything you need is just a few clicks and downloads away. All his work is on github, and Anrdoid itself is open source. Go understand how xposed works, go understand how Dalvik works/worked, go understand how ART works, and then write it yourself.
Unless you really are better, and can do this, just wait silently. Don't be yet another huso cancerous forum member. There are enough of them as it is. Don't be ungrateful. Especially now!
For f* sake, I shouldn't even have to "defend" his choices.
Netuser said:
I have moved to LP as I couldn't just leave my self open to all privacy leak, I came up with a solution while waiting for Xposed or any other other Mod to come out.
I have updated the OP with my solution . here is what i am doing :
Alternative solution I am personally using right know which serve me quite well till we have some real privacy mod/tool :
You will need 2 apps :
- AFWall+ (open source firewall) : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.ukanth.ufirewall
- App Ops : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission
Ideally to prevent leaks, install them before installing or restoring any data after flashing your ROM
1- In AFWall+
- Enable the Firewall by pressing 3 dot menu and Enable firewall,
- Then for apps which you want to grant access Check the Icons First is for LAN Network acces, 2nd is for Wifi Internet, 3rd is your Mobile Data (some system apps like Media server, download etc.. must have internet access other wise Youtube, or downloading in browsers wont work, read the FAQ question for more info.)
- Once all app you want to grant access are checked, click on 3 dot menu and click Apply. (each time you change permission don't forget to apply).
2- App Ops : This one is very easy all Apps installed are organized by Type of permissions you go in and then uncheck the permission to to Block it, once ou are in App you will see all blockable Permissions that this app is asking not only of that category and that is handy
Please Note that App Ops don't list and block each and every permissions, but most essentials are there. Combined with AFWall you are good to go to protect your privacy till some good Mod or Xposed for LP come out.
Now instead of being fully naked without Xprivacy on LP, now we are at least in Bikini
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Can you fake your IMEI with one of those?
Here's the link to LBE Privacy Guard (english):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46695347#post46695347
And yes, you can block IMEI, I'm not sure if you can fake it.
Grinface
I'm also awaiting an updated version of Xposed and Xprivacy for my incoming M9, but it seems a 64bit version is a long way off.
What do you guys know about this? Looks to be developed by faculty and students at Carnegie Mellon University.
Protect My Privacy (PMP)
http://www.appbrain.com/app/protect-my-privacy(pmp)/com.synergylabs.pmpandroid#descriptionsection
In the Google Play store here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synergylabs.pmpandroid
I didn't come for a lecture on how the phone will automatically sleep apps I don't use or how I can just live with it. I just want to clean the clutter from my phone. I don't use Bixby, nor do I want stickers in my camera, nor do I want 80% of my app drawer being taken up by crap I will never ever touch.
Oh and I'm not buying a pixel, they are ugly and I can't draw on one.
I used to use bk disabler but now it won't go past the sdk loading screen.
What do you guys use that doesn't involve adb or rooting.
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I didn't come for a lecture on how the phone will automatically sleep apps I don't use or how I can just live with it. I just want to clean the clutter from my phone. I don't use Bixby, nor do I want stickers in my camera, nor do I want 80% of my app drawer being taken up by crap I will never ever touch.
Oh and I'm not buying a pixel, they are ugly and I can't draw on one.
I used to use bk disabler but now it won't go past the sdk loading screen.
What do you guys use that doesn't involve adb or rooting.
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Their site has a post explaining how to get the app to work on the latest software update. You'll have to use adb.
Use adhell 3, it's not on xda so you'll need to Google it but it works fine
Sounds like you want an iPhone ??
BriniaSona said:
I didn't come for a lecture on how the phone will automatically sleep apps I don't use or how I can just live with it. I just want to clean the clutter from my phone. I don't use Bixby, nor do I want stickers in my camera, nor do I want 80% of my app drawer being taken up by crap I will never ever touch.
Oh and I'm not buying a pixel, they are ugly and I can't draw on one.
I used to use bk disabler but now it won't go past the sdk loading screen.
What do you guys use that doesn't involve adb or rooting.
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This works
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.powermanager.batteryaddon
The disablers dont work with android 8. You can use sabs is clearly the beast option and best disabler ever. Before open threads search into the site.
Amaranth` said:
The disablers dont work with android 8. You can use sabs is clearly the beast option and best disabler ever. Before open threads search into the site.
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Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung) works fine for me on Oreo.
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Package Disabler Pro+ (Samsung) works fine for me on Oreo.
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Maybe after the last update. But sabs still mutch better. Is not only a disabler. Can try both.
Uninstalling via adb is so much more easier and hassle-free. You can find a very small package with just the minimum required on the forum. No need of Knox key, Android studio, generating key every 3 months, not knowing when it will be discontinued or if it will still work with the next update, etc.
You can just install them back when needed.
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Uninstalling via adb is so much more easier and hassle-free. You can find a very small package with just the minimum required on the forum. No need of Knox key, Android studio, generating key every 3 months, not knowing when it will be discontinued or if it will still work with the next update, etc.
You can just install them back when needed.
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No need for android studio, there is apk which just need renaming.
Ok it is by far the more complicated app to install, but also by far the best, much better from any other solution, and the one with by far the best battery.
If you can, you go for sabs, if not this is the best alternative
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I've been using Package Disabler Pro + (Samsung) by policedeveloper and it works flawlessly...
There's another topic you might want to check out regarding this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/package-disabler-pro-samsung-vs-bk-t3617455/page4
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No need for android studio, there is apk which just need renaming.
Ok it is by far the more complicated app to install, but also by far the best, much better from any other solution, and the one with by far the best battery.
If you can, you go for sabs, if not this is the best alternative
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Since SABS is discontinued I won't recommend it and you'll still need a key to be generated every 90 days if not banned beforehand. Plus, an other app to install to rename the package and this method was never supported by the devs.
If I recall what was said on the thread well, it never fully disallowed the disabled packages to still run in the background.
It can't be better than just uninstalling the unwanted app for the current user which require nothing than a 9 MB to install on your computer.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
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adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.yourpackage
Nastrahl said:
Since SABS is discontinued I won't recommend it and you'll still need a key to be generated every 90 days if not banned beforehand. Plus, an other app to install to rename the package and this method was never supported by the devs.
If I recall what was said on the thread well, it never fully disallowed the disabled packages to still run in the background.
It can't be better than just uninstalling the unwanted app for the current user which require nothing than a 9 MB to install on your computer.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
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Actually sabs is still unofficially updating. Last version is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/8cp46f/notsabs_version_100_changelog/
After first installation it is a peace of cake to update. To renew key, i spend under 1 minute... 1 minute every 3 + months (it still work some times to 4 months.) is nothing for me.. On the other hand, i have friends who can't do it, so i do it for them.. I suppose we doesn't all have same knowledge..
It doesn't need continuing update as it has specific target which is fulfilled as it is..
Something that you don't know. Search it if you think i am wrong, i am not: By the adb command you posted you do EXACTLY what sabs does. You just use a pc for this. You don't really uninstall an app. You just hide it from os. You don't earn the mb of the app, as the app still stay installed. Just os doesn't see it. Just for information. I can understand that some people find it hard to use sabs. It's a good thing we have options.
One thing is 100% sure though. There is not better way than sabs. No pc, no adb, no anything. Nothing is better and more battery friendly. But yes, it is the most complicated for installing. Some people just can't do it or doesn't want to spent the time for installing it. It's very understantudable this..
I know why the OP said he doesn't want a lecture. Of course you're always gonna get the comments about why buy a SSamsung.Well I like the way it operates....generally. But I've not found any Android that provides the very customizable email app I like...including Samsung. But their email app keeps running even though I've never uusd it. The "it doesn't affect battery life" mantra is crap. When you're doing something intensive, EVERYTHING running in the background lags you more and more.
I had Package Disabler...quit working. I paid for BK disabler...quit working. I just tried Package Disabler Pro+, crashed everytime I tried to disable anything.
Not everyone has quick access to a PC. Mine crashed, then Oreo updates, screws everything up so I have to factory reset...without a computer, ADB or a working disabler.
In addition to email, Smart Things constantly wants to run and I don't own any smart equipment to use it with. So why can't you even disable it? WithTV??? ANT??? Does anyone use ALL of the apps on their phone? If not then it would be nice to be able to disable what you don't want. And the space waste Uber, Briefing, ad infinitum, you should have the rights to delete them, not just disable. When you pay 3 car payments for a phone, you expect it to work the way you want it.
>>>Off my soapbox. But that's why I bought a Samsung and why I want a working disabler too.
If you own a Samsung device and you want a full package disabler and adblocker come to the alliancex website and download the alliance x shield full package disabler APN changer and Ad blocker all without root.
garyinskeep1 said:
If you own a Samsung device and you want a full package disabler and adblocker come to the alliancex website and download the alliance x shield full package disabler APN changer and Ad blocker all without root.
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It doesn't seems to be a very active project. Plus, having to post to enable features...
That was an old requirement they did away with the poat rule.The alliance x shield works great
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That was an old requirement they did away with the poat rule.The alliance x shield works great
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That's great.
It's it still an active, updated project?
Yes it's still active and we are still adding new things.If you have anything you would like to see added let me or one of the other active mods now we will discuss with developer.
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Yes it's still active and we are still adding new things.If you have anything you would like to see added let me or one of the other active mods now we will discuss with developer.
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Nice!
I'll test it as soon as I can. Sorry for the bad hasted opinion yesterday.
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Yes it's still active and we are still adding new things.If you have anything you would like to see added let me or one of the other active mods now we will discuss with developer.
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Nice!
I'll test it as soon as I can. Sorry for the bad hasted opinion yesterday
I have the Amazon version of the G7 Plus. On my home network, I am running Pi-Hole as a DNS server. When reviewing the logs on Pi-Hole, the most active device on the network is my phone. Among the requests it send out, it is trying to send requests to 'web.facebook.com', 'graph.facebook.com' and connect.facebook.net'
I have never had Facebook installed on this phone. I don't use a web browser to access it either. I have closed all my apps and disable background data on all installed apps. It is still trying to talk to Facebook.
Is there a way I can identify what app is making these requests? In a 24-hour period, it has made nearly 500 requests. That boil down to a request every 3 min 30 seconds. If I can identify the app, I can decide if it's worth keeping.
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I have the Amazon version of the G7 Plus. On my home network, I am running Pi-Hole as a DNS server. When reviewing the logs on Pi-Hole, the most active device on the network is my phone. Among the requests it send out, it is trying to send requests to 'web.facebook.com', 'graph.facebook.com' and connect.facebook.net'
I have never had Facebook installed on this phone. I don't use a web browser to access it either. I have closed all my apps and disable background data on all installed apps. It is still trying to talk to Facebook.
Is there a way I can identify what app is making these requests? In a 24-hour period, it has made nearly 500 requests. That boil down to a request every 3 min 30 seconds. If I can identify the app, I can decide if it's worth keeping.
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There is a factory facebook installer app trying to do its job...so its got all your radios looking for a download its not getting or the illuminati planning a dark plot against society.... Moto is probably the last phone to still have that and probably the first...lol... if you are rooted with magisk I would install the terminal debloater mod and follow the directions...super easy and is something I wish I had back in the day....i just reflashed stock on mine and flashed back twrp and magisk...ill put the specific apk info shortly
My phone is pure stock. Not rooted. I thought we vanquished the Illuminati. Sneaky bast*rds.
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3 apps that facebook uses to mess with life /system/app/facebook -appmanager
/system/priv-app/facebook-installer
/system/priv-app/facebook-services
If you are stock it can be defeated by using adb pull commands .... I can walk through it if you havent done it before but this thread will cover it all just follow step by step and I believe after OTA you will have to do it again.. nope new info i just obtained states that u wont have to do it again and you can debloat the Amazon stuff too
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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So...I followed the instructions for adb. Since this was an unlocked phone that I bought from Amazon and since I am using a prepaid MVNO, I wasn't sure what to put in the 'OEM' or 'Carrier' variables. I downloaded and installed the App Inspector app. I scrolled through every entry on the list and could not find any that had anything resembling Facebook in it.
Anything else I can try? Thanks for all your help.
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So...I followed the instructions for adb. Since this was an unlocked phone that I bought from Amazon and since I am using a prepaid MVNO, I wasn't sure what to put in the 'OEM' or 'Carrier' variables. I downloaded and installed the App Inspector app. I scrolled through every entry on the list and could not find any that had anything resembling Facebook in it.
Anything else I can try? Thanks for all your help.
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I did a little more research and found out that its other apps reporting to facebook.... they share data and facebook plugs it into an ad algorithm....hmmmm.... read these articles https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/fac...-you-from-other-web-sites-how-to-stop-it.html
https://gist.github.com/imcodingideas/f07be3889411b323e5f8051899b9d9cc
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I did a little more research and found out that its other apps reporting to facebook.... they share data and facebook plugs it into an ad algorithm....hmmmm.... read these articles https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/fac...-you-from-other-web-sites-how-to-stop-it.html
https://gist.github.com/imcodingideas/f07be3889411b323e5f8051899b9d9cc
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Since years this service is a part of almost every app for Android.
WoKoschekk said:
Since years this service is a part of almost every app for Android.
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I just got the memo...lol....Ive only been at it two years so Im still learning all the time