Hi,
I just bought the note 5 and honestly it's amazing but I still don't get how things work here.I just need someone to explain how things work here as I want to root my device.I have read that I need to install a custom kernel after installing the custom recovery but is the kernel necessary and what does it do ? and how to choose the best one as there are 3 and I need the most stable one if I have to install one...Does installing a custom rom would wipe my files ?
Is there a rom that is more stable than stock or could a rom be better than stock and how ? What are the things I could do when I root and what are the apps that would let me do those things
Thanks in advance and sorry for all these questions
Salam Mohamad,
welcome to the forum
First of all you need to understand that rooting remove the warranty from your phone and once you root it, it will be flagged as rooted forever in the system and can't be undone. Therefore, you need to have a strong understanding of how rooting works and what is the benefit of it and do you really need it !
I suggest you start reading about root and understanding how open is Android even without root.
Regards
Yathani
Yathani said:
Salam Mohamad,
welcome to the forum
First of all you need to understand that rooting remove the warranty from your phone and once you root it, it will be flagged as rooted forever in the system and can't be undone. Therefore, you need to have a strong understanding of how rooting works and what is the benefit of it and do you really need it !
I suggest you start reading about root and understanding how open is Android even without root.
Regards
Yathani
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Thanks fo
I did read about rooting and what I do know that nothing could go wrong unless you don't know what you are doing and I don't want to do much after rooting.I just want to install apps like lucky patcher or greenify and things would maximize battery life so do you know any answers to the questions above ?
Welcome to android my friend
MohamedRaafat said:
Thanks fo
I did read about rooting and what I do know that nothing could go wrong unless you don't know what you are doing and I don't want to do much after rooting.I just want to install apps like lucky patcher or greenify and things would maximize battery life so do you know any answers to the questions above ?
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- Yes Kernal is a must for the note 5 as you casn't root the stock kernel and I recommend Arter97 check out his thread.
- Installing custom rom wipe your system like new unless you are upgrade from offical rom to offical rom otherwise you will lose all of your data. Backup always
Root gives you endless options as long as you know what you are doing and I will let you explore around but two apps i recommend is Titanium backup and Xposed framework.
GL
Yathani said:
- Yes Kernal is a must for the note 5 as you casn't root the stock kernel and I recommend Arter97 check out his thread.
- Installing custom rom wipe your system like new unless you are upgrade from offical rom to offical rom otherwise you will lose all of your data. Backup always
Root gives you endless options as long as you know what you are doing and I will let you explore around but two apps i recommend is Titanium backup and Xposed framework.
GL
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Thanks again
what about this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
And will installing custom kernel harm the device in any way as I think that they may shorten the device life si is this true ? Is there a a post which has the most used root apps ?
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But i rooted my N1, but i am completely happy with the way it is now and i dont want to flash a custom rom on it, so what can i really do now, for instance would i be able to install wired tether and have it work? or do i need to install a custom rom for that
I am just wondering if there is any benefit of your the N1 so far without having to flash a custom rom
yes, you should be able to install wired and wifi tether. but i would suggest giving other roms a shot, if you dont like it. just do a nand restore
can you still install apps2sd with no custom rom?
also newb question. doesn installing a custom rom after root give a noticable perfomance boost? like feeing up more ram and rom as well?
most custom roms have the himem enabled, so that will double the available ram for you to use. and apps2sd only works well with the custom rom they came with
i am running cyanogen, and it works really well, better than stock for sure.
But when you go to the download page of wired tethered it says i need a rdnis enabled kernel and i dont think the nexus one comes stock with it, but thats mainly just a guess not an actual fact of knowledge
I don't blame you the N1 already performs great even when it's stock, but since you're already rooted, I suggest you flash Amon's recovery, do a nandroid back up, and try out the available ROMs, you will get everything the stock ROM has and A LOT more, it gives you more memory, speed boost, battery savings, and the option to save aps to SD. If you aren't happy with it you can always restore it.
I'm running Enomther's ROM right now, and trust me you wont get disappointed.
Good Luck!
michaelo147 said:
But i rooted my N1, but i am completely happy with the way it is now and i dont want to flash a custom rom on it, so what can i really do now, for instance would i be able to install wired tether and have it work? or do i need to install a custom rom for that
I am just wondering if there is any benefit of your the N1 so far without having to flash a custom rom
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sorry another question.
If i decide to root. could i backup all my current apps and recover them once i root. I have mybackup pro and will i be able to just run restore apps in a custom rom with mybackup pro?
And with rooted phones, all over the air updates by google must be manually installed right? instead of ota right?
I'm not sure how backup pro works but I think it'll restore your aps coz that's what its for also when you flash a new ROM, the first time you open your downloads list from the market, all the apps you have installed from your previous ROM will be available for download. Note that this only works the first time you open market, so make sure you don't exit the market until your done installing all, or you won't see them again.
Yes you wont get OTA updates when you're rooted, but this is not a big deal since the devs update their ROM as soon as Google releases an update, often, they even get the leaked versions and incorporate it in their ROMs, so you'll be running the updated version of the N1 way before the stock N1's get it.
inhuman5000 said:
sorry another question.
If i decide to root. could i backup all my current apps and recover them once i root. I have mybackup pro and will i be able to just run restore apps in a custom rom with mybackup pro?
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GuerillaZhou said:
yes, you should be able to install wired and wifi tether. but i would suggest giving other roms a shot, if you dont like it. just do a nand restore
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This is actually incorrect. The kernal needs to be updated to be able to use ether of the tethering apps. With the stock rom, there isn't much you can do with a rooted phone. In fact, its almost a waste to root unless your going to run a custom ROM. I use and trust Enomther's ROM's. VERY stable and capable of using tether apps, apps2sd, has the hacked kernal that allows the full use of the 512Mb of RAM etc. etc. Check it out here.
rjhay22 said:
I'm not sure how backup pro works but I think it'll restore your aps coz that's what its for also when you flash a new ROM, the first time you open your downloads list from the market, all the apps you have installed from your previous ROM will be available for download. Note that this only works the first time you open market, so make sure you don't exit the market until your done installing all, or you won't see them again.
Yes you wont get OTA updates when you're rooted, but this is not a big deal since the devs update their ROM as soon as Google releases an update, often, they even get the leaked versions and incorporate it in their ROMs, so you'll be running the updated version of the N1 way before the stock N1's get it.
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thanks alot man.
inhuman5000 said:
sorry another question.
If i decide to root. could i backup all my current apps and recover them once i root. I have mybackup pro and will i be able to just run restore apps in a custom rom with mybackup pro?
And with rooted phones, all over the air updates by google must be manually installed right? instead of ota right?
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Not sure about backup pro, but I think it should do what you need... atleast thats what ppl have said... i personally never used it..
Most cooked ROMs disable OTA updates... but if u hv stock rooted, you will get the OTA updates, but it'll most likely disable root if a new boot image is part of the OTA...
Daily people post about this. Why un-lock the bootloader (thus VOIDING your warranty) to keep a stock rom? Makes absolutely no sense. Cyanogen and Emon are trusted people that WILL NOT RELEASE ANYTHING THAT WILL BLOW UP YOUR PHONE!! There is a disclaimer for idiots that may not pay attention. If you follow directions you will never have a problem. If you end up with a problem (bootloop or alot of FCs) hop on #cyanogenmod on freenode IRC. Those guys are always willing to help you through problems, Even noobs usually.
Hardware defects will happen on stock just as they will custom ROMs. So don't waste your time un-locking, if you don't plan on running a custom ROM.
YOU CAN'T BRICK YOUR PHONE FLASHING CyanogenMOD/Emon ROMS!!! ONLY RADIOS AND SPL's!!!!!!!!
dude chill there questions i rooted my g1 and i thought it was a fun experience and i just bought a nexus one and i wanted to see if i could root it, but i really enjoy the way my nexus one runs now, its all i wanted to know
Before i root i have a few questions
When i root will i lose all my contacts?
I see about how to root but nothing about what to do After i root my phone what is their to do next? Install cyanmod? atm the site is down could someone point me to a thread that has the download?
Is cyanmod fryo 2.2 or its something different?
What are the main things to install after i root my phone?
Thanks in advance for the help
You won't lose data just by rooting. What you do after rooting is up to you. Installing Superuser is a good start.
You can install a new ROM or use apps like adfree. Other than changing ROMs, nothing major is gained by rooting.
Kevets said:
You won't lose data just by rooting. What you do after rooting is up to you. Installing Superuser is a good start.
You can install a new ROM or use apps like adfree. Other than changing ROMs, nothing major is gained by rooting.
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Thanks for the reply but can you tell me the difference between Froyo 2.2 and cynogoen? Is cynogen basically froyo 2.2? Is cynogoen the most stable rom reason most users have it?
Before you start reading, please make sure, you are 100% sure of ur answers, and that you have TIME to answer them ALL with clarification
Really thanks for ur time and help!
So i got a samsung galaxy ace, it's rooted and with b84 CF-Root kernel.
1) The thing is sometimes, I press Wi-Fi button or Bluetooth, and in the Wifi it says Error and on bluetooth just won't conect. I don't know what the problem is, and the only solution is to reboot the phone. Is this a problem? Can it be fixed? If It can, how? If not, please read point number 2.
2) If its not fixable, what ROM you advice me to reinstall? I have s5830XWKS2, some people say the DDxxx8(or something like that) is better don't know why I'm no programmer...
2.1) If I really have to have to reinstall it in order to fix it, how can I do it? Can you point out the thread for it?
3) I run a small business, and I use Tasker for all my stuff. together with other 60+ apps I need to keep, i'm using SD card with ext partition with Link2SD. And the thing i'm most afraid of, is loosing all the data. I came from a Nokia 5800XM, and I flashed it some times, backups are easy to do. Now here on Android becomes a bit complicated. Maybe never someone cleared me enough about it. So what can I do to sucessfully restore all data on the new ROM? I got Titanium backups, and CWM..Will that backup even my dictionary saved words?
4) Thanks, and please, again, make notice that I can't loose anything due to my business, but I can't work with phone needing to reboot at random times cause of wifi or bluetooh beeing bricked.
First of all. There is no such things as urgent situation here. You should remember that.
Second thing. You should post questions in Q&A sub-section. General is for sharing and discussions.
Third thing. There is a adb logcat thingie, which allows to understand a root of your problem more than 'Help me. Something doesn't work'
I remain this thread open but move to correct section.
NunoPitbull said:
Before you start reading, please make sure, you are 100% sure of ur answers, and that you have TIME to answer them ALL with clarification
Really thanks for ur time and help!
So i got a samsung galaxy ace, it's rooted and with b84 CF-Root kernel.
1) The thing is sometimes, I press Wi-Fi button or Bluetooth, and in the Wifi it says Error and on bluetooth just won't conect. I don't know what the problem is, and the only solution is to reboot the phone. Is this a problem? Can it be fixed? If It can, how? If not, please read point number 2.
2) If its not fixable, what ROM you advice me to reinstall? I have s5830XWKS2, some people say the DDxxx8(or something like that) is better don't know why I'm no programmer...
2.1) If I really have to have to reinstall it in order to fix it, how can I do it? Can you point out the thread for it?
3) I run a small business, and I use Tasker for all my stuff. together with other 60+ apps I need to keep, i'm using SD card with ext partition with Link2SD. And the thing i'm most afraid of, is loosing all the data. I came from a Nokia 5800XM, and I flashed it some times, backups are easy to do. Now here on Android becomes a bit complicated. Maybe never someone cleared me enough about it. So what can I do to sucessfully restore all data on the new ROM? I got Titanium backups, and CWM..Will that backup even my dictionary saved words?
4) Thanks, and please, again, make notice that I can't loose anything due to my business, but I can't work with phone needing to reboot at random times cause of wifi or bluetooh beeing bricked.
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Yes I experienced the same problem,could be software bugs problem so I think you can reinstall your software for the better.
I prefer cm mod7/8 for ace as it is much faster so you can try Google cyanogenmod for ace. They have all the tutorial you need.
As for your Apps, titanium backup will do fine. Its the best backup so far. Your dictionary words is the default system one? I recommend you smart keyboard pro as it has the function to backup all your words
So in short, backup your EVERYTHING with titanium backup, rmb your contacts too, and install cyannogen mod 7 or 8 whichever you prefer! Hope this helps!
Sent from my LG-P705 using xda premium
spaz1201 said:
Yes I experienced the same problem,could be software bugs problem so I think you can reinstall your software for the better.
I prefer cm mod7/8 for ace as it is much faster so you can try Google cyanogenmod for ace. They have all the tutorial you need.
As for your Apps, titanium backup will do fine. Its the best backup so far. Your dictionary words is the default system one? I recommend you smart keyboard pro as it has the function to backup all your words
So in short, backup your EVERYTHING with titanium backup, rmb your contacts too, and install cyannogen mod 7 or 8 whichever you prefer! Hope this helps!
Sent from my LG-P705 using xda premium
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There's no such thing as cyanogen mod 8...only unofficial cm 7.1 kang and official cm 7.2...
Nunopitbull, wifi & bluetooth problems that you experience are caused by the kernel, not the firmware or rom...so my suggestion is to use a kernel that is not based on cf root or use a stock kernel (the one that came with your phone)...just root your phone with the update zip method will do, and for cwm flash the zip for it...the newest version for sga is 5.0.2.6...there's no need to flash a custom kernel...
About cwm backups, it backups your whole system and data partition and also your boot.img (kernel related)...so yes, it is quite safe to say that your whole phone is backup-ed...but keep in mind that stock roms use .rfs format for the partitions...new custom roms use .ext4 format...so to flash a backup of a stock rom, first flash a fresh stock firmware with ODIN and the cooper.pit file...then re-root and re-flash cwm to restore your phone...
And fyi, link2sd uses a second partition right? The apps inside the second partition can be relinked if you reset the phone...as long as you don't format the second partition...but personally I suggest you to use DTa2sd or amarulzz script as it saves more internal space...check it out...
Hope that all the above helps...
So you're saying my problem of wi-fi/bluetooth is because of kernel? Can you help me by PM how to get it working again? I wanted a custom kernel don't remember already why, but I think was for the custom speeds of CPU, so I could have low ones..
Just want this bug to disapear of bluetooth and wifi!
Ryuinferno said:
There's no such thing as cyanogen mod 8...only unofficial cm 7.1 kang and official cm 7.2...
Nunopitbull, wifi & bluetooth problems that you experience are caused by the kernel, not the firmware or rom...so my suggestion is to use a kernel that is not based on cf root or use a stock kernel (the one that came with your phone)...just root your phone with the update zip method will do, and for cwm flash the zip for it...the newest version for sga is 5.0.2.6...there's no need to flash a custom kernel...
About cwm backups, it backups your whole system and data partition and also your boot.img (kernel related)...so yes, it is quite safe to say that your whole phone is backup-ed...but keep in mind that stock roms use .rfs format for the partitions...new custom roms use .ext4 format...so to flash a backup of a stock rom, first flash a fresh stock firmware with ODIN and the cooper.pit file...then re-root and re-flash cwm to restore your phone...
And fyi, link2sd uses a second partition right? The apps inside the second partition can be relinked if you reset the phone...as long as you don't format the second partition...but personally I suggest you to use DTa2sd or amarulzz script as it saves more internal space...check it out...
Hope that all the above helps...
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So far I haven't seen a custom kernel for sga that works flawlessly...especially the ones with oc function...only stock kernels work with the least problems...since you want to underclock, just use the stock kernel and set it to the lowest value with an app like set cpu...it shall do you fine...
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So far I haven't seen a custom kernel for sga that works flawlessly...especially the ones with oc function...only stock kernels work with the least problems...since you want to underclock, just use the stock kernel and set it to the lowest value with an app like set cpu...it shall do you fine...
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What are the other advntages with the CF Root kernel? I can't remmeber why I puted it, but I think they were another reason behind it...
Where I can get teh stock kernel? Or which one you advise?
Chill please...don't shoot questions in here...if you want quick answers, please search about it (e.g. go to the cf-root thread and read about the features, I don't memorise them, but I believe you want the overclock and a2sd features)...If you want direct answers, you will have to wait...
I understand that you need your phone for your business, it's very important to you...I'm trying my best to help out here ok? To get a stock kernel, just flash a stock firmware via ODIN...but you will have to re-root and re-flash cwm...any stock kernel will do, as long as it is with the firmware you flashed...
Ryuinferno said:
Chill please...don't shoot questions in here...if you want quick answers, please search about it (e.g. go to the cf-root thread and read about the features, I don't memorise them, but I believe you want the overclock and a2sd features)...If you want direct answers, you will have to wait...
I understand that you need your phone for your business, it's very important to you...I'm trying my best to help out here ok? To get a stock kernel, just flash a stock firmware via ODIN...but you will have to re-root and re-flash cwm...any stock kernel will do, as long as it is with the firmware you flashed...
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Chill what? I'm not in a hurry for answers You answer when you can. I jsut reply when I can, if it was fast, I didn't noticed
I remember to put this kernel i did something from CWM reboot, your saying i need to reinstall a full ROM to get the stock kernel?:S And what's ODIN
Reply when u can, im in no hurry ;D
NunoPitbull said:
Chill what? I'm not in a hurry for answers You answer when you can. I jsut reply when I can, if it was fast, I didn't noticed
I remember to put this kernel i did something from CWM reboot, your saying i need to reinstall a full ROM to get the stock kernel?:S And what's ODIN
Reply when u can, im in no hurry ;D
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Yea...a full stock samsung rom..you might wanna look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12874680
Is your Samsung Galaxy Ace a GT-S5830 or a GT-S5830i ??
Sent from my GT-S5830i using xda app-developers app
If you want only professionals to answer your questions, take your phone to the Samsung Engineers....
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NunoPitbull said:
Before you start reading, please make sure, you are 100% sure of ur answers, and that you have TIME to answer them ALL with clarification
Really thanks for ur time and help!
So i got a samsung galaxy ace, it's rooted and with b84 CF-Root kernel.
1) The thing is sometimes, I press Wi-Fi button or Bluetooth, and in the Wifi it says Error and on bluetooth just won't conect. I don't know what the problem is, and the only solution is to reboot the phone. Is this a problem? Can it be fixed? If It can, how? If not, please read point number 2.
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Try flashing a new kernel, this is NOT a rom issue, just a kernel issue.
hi
first of all i apologize for my retarded questions , but i'm late to the android party as this is my first droid
Loving the phone so far other than the horrible battery life that's why i thought about roms and kernels , but then i got very confused and i have a few questions.
Do all roms require root or unlocked bootloader ?
I read a thread saying that the new cyanogenmod is rooted , Does that mean that it automatically root the device? , if so how do i install it exactly ?
Do i need root to install kernels ? do i have to install a kernel with a specific rom ? can i install a customized kernel on official rom ?
I read someone saying that i need to wipe cash before installing a rom , again how do i do that ?
Sorry i asked so many questions but i tried to read about it and i got overwhelmed , if there are any guides that i missed kindly point me to it and i'll be glad if anyone can recommend a rom and a kernel for improved gaming and battery life
thanks a lot
please bear in mind that i have no idea what adb is or kdz or any of this stuff , i hate myself right now
There are many wonderful guides for all of your information just a few clicks away.. But anyhow..
1. Stock roms - firmware (from LG) do not require rooted and unlocked device.
2. Yes, CM is already rooted.
3. First you need to upgrade your phone to 4.1 (v20a) Jelly Bean Android, root it and then unlock bootloader. After that, you have to install a recovery like CWM or TWPR so that you will be able to install roms, do backups, restore, wipe partitions etc. Easiest way to get CWM for example, is to install it via Rom Manager app.
4. Yes and unlocked BL.
5. Every rom has it's own kernel already but you can install a different one. (Which must be compatible of course and made for the device specifically)
6. Yes, but only on a rooted and unlocked device.
7. It's advised/needed to wipe CACHE not cash hehe which can easily be done by selecting "wipe cache partition" in CWM (recovery mode)
About roms, I would recommend either CM 10.1 RC1 + WerewolfJB kernel or just WerewolfJB which already has that kernel installed. (There are also some other nice roms and kernels but I did not try them yet so I cannot tell you. I just tried those 2 and they are great)
Read some of these guides.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147879
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2225910
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264616
thank you
you cleared some of the fog on my mind , will try those guides
Np at all. Yes do that, they are great and easy to understand.
Hi, this is noob question about root, its my first android phone and i wonder if root is necessary in my case
as former owner of iphone, i had to jailbreak my phone since apple system is very restricted
Android is more open-minded
i dont want to brick and dont want to spend much time if anything goes wrong
ROOT is it safe? what is its purpose?
Sony has made great stock rom, light and reactive, now with the latest firmware, we got better screen calibration, black navbar...
should i switch to the root or not?
thanks you
It really depends what you want from rooting. Ask yourself, what do you want to mod? Want stock rom? See anything you like from this
Rooting is safe, not unless youre doing it wrong without reading the instructions thoroughly.
Root: granting the users access to system files.
Here is a list of terms you may find helpful.
thanks but i am willing to root my phone but what if anything goes wrong
any backup before installing MODS?
monsieur_debile said:
Hi, this is noob question about root, its my first android phone and i wonder if root is necessary in my case
as former owner of iphone, i had to jailbreak my phone since apple system is very restricted
Android is more open-minded
i dont want to brick and dont want to spend much time if anything goes wrong
ROOT is it safe? what is its purpose?
Sony has made great stock rom, light and reactive, now with the latest firmware, we got better screen calibration, black navbar...
should i switch to the root or not?
thanks you
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When I first rooted my Android phone I was the same, why do I want to do this? I kept asking myself. Simple answer I just wanted to explore and get more understanding off what was in my pocket.
Have you unlocked your bootloader? Can it be unlocked? There is a really good site where there are step by step instructions on how to unlock it, it uses fastboot (to my knowledge - sometime since I done one).
Don't want to spend too much time if it goes wrong -- well how longs a piece of string? It will go wrong if you haven't read the proper tutorials don't go in blind, there are backup facilities available to you just find the one thats best suited for what you're doing.
Enjoy
what should i do before rooting like backup?
is that easy to root phone?
Backing up is really for after rooting as you may try various mods or other roms. You can then back up with twrp/cm. Give rooting a go....
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