Hi,
I'm about to send back to amazon my brand new lenovo yoga tab 3 pro : it's cute, with premium feelings, has a great pico projector, but it is so laggy!
So I want the best android tablet.
For 500€, I can have the galaxy tab s2, 32gb with sdcard and LTE.
And i can have the beautiful Pixel C 32gb without the keyboard.
What do you think?
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Tab 2, but it really depends on what you want to do with it.
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Personally i'd go with the Pixel C the tab s2 is the worst tablet I've ever owned its slow buggy and something that people with epilepsy (like myself) need to be aware of that when the battery is down to around 10% the tablet is basically unusable and the display starts flickering very quickly.
I'm not terribly familiar with the Pixel C but I've read a handful of negative articles about on Ars Technica. You might want to do a search on that site before picking one up.
The post above mine seems to go against the consensus. Most S2 owners seem to love the tablet... I certainly do My rooted 817T (9.7" Tmo model) is blazing fast and easily handles anything I throw at it. Before I got the S2 I thought my Note 4 was fast, but the tablet is so much faster. Based on what I've read and my experience I'd definitely recommend the S2 :good:
I say +1 for TAB S2 ...because I have one and I do love it... But the big bonus for the Pixel will be software update support that is quicker and lasts longer... Samsung do not invest as much in tablet software updates as they do with phone.
And whilst touchwiz is much leaner than before, stock android will always give smoother performance in long run.
Galaxy Tab S2
I was in this same debate. Waited for the Pixel C to come out. But after looking at the cost of 650+ with taxes, and a Costco price on the Galaxy Tab S2 of 389.99 with the book cover it was a no brainer...Galaxy all the way.
I have read awesome things about it, most people really love it, and quite frankly I need a tablet, not a convertable.
That is what the Pixel is, it is trying to bridge the gap between tablet and laptop, to compete with the Surface. But for me I dont need that, and the novelty is not worth the price.
Tab actually arrived about 30 min ago, and I am truly in awe, it is beautiful, light, and thin. Perfect.
BS - the Galaxy Tab S2 is NOT slow and buggy (in fact, it's the smoothest tablet I ever had), and there's not a problem with flickering. Don't listen to Jack Roberts.
So, I've read many things
PIXEL C has a really best processor, a beautiful premium aluminium body, a new Usb C 3.1, it will have every update as soon as possible, it will have a great stock experience, the bootloader will be unlockable without loosing the warranty.
The galaxy s2 is thinner, has sdcard, has 4g LTE, it has multi windows already available.
really, I don't know...
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hasenbein196601 said:
BS - the Galaxy Tab S2 is NOT slow and buggy (in fact, it's the smoothest tablet I ever had), and there's not a problem with flickering. Don't listen to Jack Roberts.
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I agree the Tab S2 is fast as hell. Whoever made that statement must be trying to code on the device or something lol......
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hasenbein196601 said:
BS - the Galaxy Tab S2 is NOT slow and buggy (in fact, it's the smoothest tablet I ever had), and there's not a problem with flickering. Don't listen to Jack Roberts.
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There certainly is an issue with flickering as the battery dips below the 10 percent point. It's not that the device works with a flickering screen, it's that the screen flickers and the device shuts down. It can not be restarted until some level of recharge takes place. If you connect the the charger after one of these flickering shutdowns you will see the Green battery gauge is at 0.
Aside from that it is great. If you are always near power outlet then no worries.
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There certainly is an issue with flickering as the battery dips below the 10 percent point. It's not that the device works with a flickering screen, it's that the screen flickers and the device shuts down. It can not be restarted until some level of recharge takes place. If you connect the the charger after one of these flickering shutdowns you will see the Green battery gauge is at 0.
Aside from that it is great. If you are always near power outlet then no worries.
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You would think most people will recharge there device once it gets below 15 percent....still not a true problem in my opinion.
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My device (9.7) works normally till 5% battery, then the screen dims very much, but it continues to be usable.
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I agree the Tab S2 is fast as hell. Whoever made that statement must be trying to code on the device or something lol......
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I find it very fast too at least compared to my nexus 9...3gb ram really helps.
regarding the screen flicker and shut down, I can confirm this has happened. I just try to not let it go under 5% and most likely won't be an issue. maybe it can be fixed in an OTA?
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I find it very fast too at least compared to my nexus 9...3gb ram really helps.
regarding the screen flicker and shut down, I can confirm this has happened. I just try to not let it go under 5% and most likely won't be an issue. maybe it can be fixed in an OTA?
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Very dim at 5% is touchwiz ROM feature. It happens too to Note 10.1 2014 and Mega 6.2 that I have. Switching to another ROM like CM will take away or fix it.
Well, as far as I know Pixel C has no SD card slot
And I never buy an android device which has no SD card slot.
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Well, as far as I know Pixel C has no SD card slot
And I never buy an android device which has no SD card slot.
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Agree, the microsd slot should be a necessity with all android tablets. Since it has native file support, you end up putting so much stuff on the device which can ultimately lead to running out of space. I really believe Google took a nosedive with the pixel C; leaving out a feature like microsd and limiting the maximum space possible to 64 GB.
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Now that we have cm, I would def get the tab s2.
I'm picky about my tablets/phones and I find the s2 to be a great tablet. I don't play games, but all other activities are smooth on it. I haven't seen any lag whatsoever!
If do like nexus/pixel for the software updates and vanilla android though.
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I can upgrade myself to galaxy note by adding about 50 $...
Should I do it? Is it worth it?
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I would never hesitate for a minute.
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Depends on what you want to do with it. Do you need the extra screen real estate, do you have use for the stylus. What I did? I went to a shop and played a while with the note. Tried the stylus, the extra software that comes with it, the new calendar and most of all...the size of the device. I decided to buy the Note because it was more productive than my S2. Keep in mind that the Note feels a little slower than a S2.
No one else can make the decision for you...you have to give it a try yourself, if possible.
On the stylus issue.. Anyway I can link it up to a pc?
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try it out. Its mostly an yes but there are few no's too...
IF u get it make sure u use it for a few weeks. ( I hope they have 1 month return policy if u dint like it. ) The size does need getting used to. But once that is done, its an amazing device
Theres another thread around here with alot of post. Check it out.
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Size is the biggest factor. You will look an idiot making calls in public there is no denying that, also it is more sluggish then s2. In my estimate bit like the original gs.
Buil is cheap and feels plasticky similar to s2.
You can get a bluetooth to avoid ever holding the phone against your ear in public or use the hands free kit.
Screen resolution is brilliant as surfing the net. Watching YouTube, videos, camera and video recording is brilliant. the best I have seen in this regards.
Has sd card slot another pro.
I would also suggest wait for upcoming HTC devices which will inmho more suitable and practical.
If you plan to use it as a media player I would consider holding off for now. Also not a lot of people can stand the grainy display a pentile has over an RGB stripe.. Better check the actual unit out before deciding.
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I can upgrade myself to galaxy note by adding about 50 $...
Should I do it? Is it worth it?
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I upgraded from the Galaxy S2 too. Both are great phones but the Note wins because of it's size. Worth upgrading definitely.
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If you plan to use it as a media player I would consider holding off for now. Also not a lot of people can stand the grainy display a pentile has over an RGB stripe.. Better check the actual unit out before deciding.
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You havent given up the note section yet buddy? Time to move on
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I just got my white Galaxy Note today and from the second that I opened the box, I was in love.
This thing is beautiful; its light, the screen is incredible, the stylus is practical and it's very fast.
I was really worried about upgrading from the SGS2, thinking that it would be a "SGS2 XL" but the overall experience is something completely new.
Only my opinion, obviously but I highly doubt you'll be disappointed
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It's definitely worth it. You get used to it easily. It has all the features you need and battery lasts way more than Galaxy S2 with a proper kernel.
I've got them both and I could say that Sgs2 is smoother definitely but Galaxy Note form factor is amazing and the screen, apart from the black clipping and the banding that I hope Supercurio will solve with his app, is tremendous brilliant and clear for an easy reading.
The S-Pen is nice also but a little bit inaccurate when you write oin the screen.
If Ics will improove the snappiness and solve the screen issues it will be a monster for sure but for the moment I keep also Sgs2 with me everytime because it is a more supported phone by the community and also because, with the right modding, its battery is endless.
Hope it will help in your choice
I love my Note. It's big, at first, but now I find the S2, which my girlfriend has, too cramped and feel the Note as a normal size. Sure, it's less snappy than the S2, but that's no problem for me, cause it's still fast. And with ICS coming, it's bound to be even faster. I don't say either one is better, the Note has more to offer for me with the bigger real estate and stylus.
You'll have to make your own choice, but if I had to choose again, I would definately go for the Note again! You can wait for (even) better phones to come out, but whatever you do, better phones will come out whatever you choose. Enjoy the moment.
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I just got my white Galaxy Note today and from the second that I opened the box, I was in love.
This thing is beautiful; its light, the screen is incredible, the stylus is practical and it's very fast.
I was really worried about upgrading from the SGS2, thinking that it would be a "SGS2 XL" but the overall experience is something completely new.
Only my opinion, obviously but I highly doubt you'll be disappointed
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As what others have mentioned it depends on your usage, I was a short time Galaxy S2 user but I ended up returning it due to defects. I also had a chance to get to use the Galaxy Note for 7 days and noticed that it was not playing my media properly which is not acceptable for a device that is marked for 'HD', I believe that topic is extensively discussed here. But I really did like the device as I didnt need to bring my tablet along with me, size is absolutely perfect even for my small-ish hands, if ICS fixes the issue I'll probably get one back and ditch my tablet.
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I am coming from an SGS2; I'd say definitely yes -- the screen + hardware is sweet. Can't go back...
I had HUGE reservations in getting Note due to it's size but I eventually took the plunge because of my smartphone addiction.
Out of all the high end handsets I have had this year (Sensation XL, Titan, Nexus Galaxy, SG2, Note, Iphone 4S), I must admit Note is my favourite.
It does have it's issues but so does every other handset out there.
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There is an artical on the portal at the moment, but i would say its down to size realy no matter the spec.
If you are very physical or have tight jeans among other factors i would stick with the S2
I think the note has quite sharper images than the s2 which i used to dread for..
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What do you guys think, the note 2 is big enough to serve as a mini tablet. Those of you who have the nexus 7 and plan on getting the note 2, will you get rid of your nexus 7? If you plan on keeping the nexus 7, where will it fit between your computer and your note as far as daily usage?
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The biggest thing you need to realize that coming from a former note user is that using it as a "phablet" is a killer on battery life. Plus I used to think that having an asop device with the latest software was overrated but I don't think I can ever go back to anything blurred, sensed or wizzed on.
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...I used to think that having an asop device with the latest software was overrated but I don't think I can ever go back to anything blurred, sensed or wizzed on.
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+1. Never going to waste my time with a non-nexus device again.
The Note 2 does look pretty badass. We'll see what's inline for the next nexus/nexi, but I'm considering it. I got some funny looks when I tried shoving a Galaxy Note tethered to a display case into my pocket to see if it was too big. Certainly wouldn't get rid of the n7 though.
Generally I use the device with the bigger screen. So if I had both in hand, I'd probably use the N7. The only difference is that, where I can't take the N7, I'd still have a nice and large screen to work with. Plus, the battery had been saved from when I was using the N7.
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I actually looked at the note. With much consideration . Its to big to be a phone and Just to small to be a tablet . I too read about terrible battery life trying to use it for a tablet..
So to me
a 4 inch android smart phone(just really needs to call and offer fast thether)
and a Nexus 7 is perfect combination .
i have a 10 inch acer a500 as well and i know its to big..
The NEXUS Experience is almost Priceless. Im loving it..
I was planning on getting a note before getting the nexus 7 . Now I have no interest in the note but I have to say the note 2 looks bad ass
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The biggest thing you need to realize that coming from a former note user is that using it as a "phablet" is a killer on battery life. Plus I used to think that having an asop device with the latest software was overrated but I don't think I can ever go back to anything blurred, sensed or wizzed on.
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You got a point. Actually last year, I sold my iPad 2 because I thought my note 1 could replace it as a tablet but it couldn't. Also the battery life does take a hit when you use it as a tablet. But the reason why I ask is because 7 inch vs 5.5 inch. Obviously theres a difference but not like 5.5 inch to 9.7 inch (iPad). I won't get rid of my nexus though
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Generally I use the device with the bigger screen. So if I had both in hand, I'd probably use the N7. The only difference is that, where I can't take the N7, I'd still have a nice and large screen to work with. Plus, the battery had been saved from when I was using the N7.
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this is pretty much how i go about it as well. If im home i use the N7, if im out i use the note. its nice having a big device on the go that fits in my pocket. Battery lifes fine on my note, last me all day, but i do carry a fully charged spare in my wallet because it just comes in handy for those super late nights.
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Generally I use the device with the bigger screen. So if I had both in hand, I'd probably use the N7. The only difference is that, where I can't take the N7, I'd still have a nice and large screen to work with. Plus, the battery had been saved from when I was using the N7.
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Make sense, I guess use the nexus at home like you said and the note 2 on the road to have a tablet like experience ( with carrier data connectivity).
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I'm pretty stoked for the Note 2. I actually don't think it's big *enough*, if anything. I would love it if my Nexus 7 made calls (and accessed data over the cell network). Then again, I use data a lot more than I make calls, so I guess it's all in how you use your devices. I make like one call a week on my cell phone, whereas I use my tablets *constantly*. So having a phone that's huge like the Nexus 7 would be a totally acceptable tradeoff in size vs. usability (and stupid-lookingness, I guess), for me.
Anyway, so I'm excited for the Note 2, as pretty much the biggest phone out there (LG announced a phablet today too, but it's not as good), and yeah, I probably will get rid of my Nexus 7 at that time. But that's only because I also have a Xoom. If the Nexus 7 was the only tablet I had, I'd probably keep it for the better battery life and being able to read a book or magazine on it properly. A 5.5" screen is still a little too small for that.
But there's definitely no justification I can make (especially to my wife!) for having a 15" laptop, a 10" tablet, a 7" tablet and a 5.5" phone. There's just not enough I can do on each larger screen that I can't do on the next level down. And the Note 2 can do like 90% of what the Nexus 7 can do, plus make calls, plus take pictures, plus access data on the cell network, plus it's probably actually faster. So the Nexus 7 is probably gonna go, and I'll still have a bigger tablet for when I want one but don't need the laptop. I'll either sell it or give it to my wife, but she insists that she doesn't want a tablet, and anyway she's an Apple person even though she complains all the time about all of her Apple devices.
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Its to big to be a phone and Just to small to be a tablet . I too read about terrible battery life trying to use it for a tablet..
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I appreciate this is all about opinion, but from my experience with the Note 1, this isn't true on all accounts.
Firstly on size, yes it is big but that is the whole point of it. When I bought mine this time last year, I bought it to be a companion device to my phone as I felt it would be too large to use as my primary phone. Two days after receiving it, my HTC Sensation was retired and my Note became my daily driver. It fits into my trouser pockets without issue and really feels fine to use as a phone - I see no downside.
I also use my Note as a travel tablet, and it works wonderfully in that guise too. I even use it for work to connect to the VPN with regular RDP sessions and Citrix applications. In some ways, and it is better than the Nexus 7 is this regard since it has the same screen resolution, but no soft keys taking up space. (I'm a little disappointed that the Note 2 drops to 720p)
Last point - battery. Battery life on the Note is great - I regularly get 5+ hours screen on time with my Note which is very good, and since the battery is user replaceable, I can carry a spare or two if I'm expecting to use it heavily. Given the Note 2 has an even more capacious battery, I'm expecting better battery life from it.
For me, the Nexus 7 is for home mostly and the Note for when I'm out an about.
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I don't think I can ever go back to anything blurred, sensed or wizzed on.
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100% agree. I'm really tempted to get a Note 1 or 2 but I can't deal with slow/no updates and touchwiz hi or whatever crappy overlay manufacturers bog the system down with.
I'm going pure Android / Nexus or nothing at all.
I also wish the Note 2 was bigger. If it was a 6" 1080p screen with minimal bezel I could see myself ditching the N7 while holding up the Note 2 like a torch of liberty. But while the screen is definitely more eye-friendly than my current S2, it's still going to feel cramped reading books and comics, watching movies and surfing the web. Those are the things that I can't bring myself to use my phone for since purchasing the N7.
As for Touchwiz, Samsung makes rooting painless, and the community will surely port the popular ROMs. Also, you can install Apex or Nova without needing root if you don't like Touchwiz.
I seriously entertained the thought of getting the GNote2 it really looks sick. Given the slow updates of Sammy when it comes to software is what's turning me off. Maybe the next Nexus will approach phablet territory.
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It depends on your preference, i personally won't want 2 devices to both require 2 handed use.
If i need the large screen i'll just switch on wifi hotspot and use it with nexus 7.
But that's just me.
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The biggest thing you need to realize that coming from a former note user is that using it as a "phablet" is a killer on battery life. Plus I used to think that having an asop device with the latest software was overrated but I don't think I can ever go back to anything blurred, sensed or wizzed on.
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Hi are you a existing user of Note? The Note 2 has a bigger battery, 3100 mAh vs 2500 mAh. Would it address your concern enough? I am a bit concern about the weight, 180 g vs 112 g of Samsung Galaxy S2. Could you please share your comments as an actual user. Thanks!
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I'm pretty stoked for the Note 2. I actually don't think it's big *enough*, if anything. I would love it if my Nexus 7 made calls (and accessed data over the cell network). Then again, I use data a lot more than I make calls, so I guess it's all in how you use your devices. I make like one call a week on my cell phone, whereas I use my tablets *constantly*. So having a phone that's huge like the Nexus 7 would be a totally acceptable tradeoff in size vs. usability (and stupid-lookingness, I guess), for me.
Anyway, so I'm excited for the Note 2, as pretty much the biggest phone out there (LG announced a phablet today too, but it's not as good), and yeah, I probably will get rid of my Nexus 7 at that time. But that's only because I also have a Xoom. If the Nexus 7 was the only tablet I had, I'd probably keep it for the better battery life and being able to read a book or magazine on it properly. A 5.5" screen is still a little too small for that.
But there's definitely no justification I can make (especially to my wife!) for having a 15" laptop, a 10" tablet, a 7" tablet and a 5.5" phone. There's just not enough I can do on each larger screen that I can't do on the next level down. And the Note 2 can do like 90% of what the Nexus 7 can do, plus make calls, plus take pictures, plus access data on the cell network, plus it's probably actually faster. So the Nexus 7 is probably gonna go, and I'll still have a bigger tablet for when I want one but don't need the laptop. I'll either sell it or give it to my wife, but she insists that she doesn't want a tablet, and anyway she's an Apple person even though she complains all the time about all of her Apple devices.
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I am also looking at Note 2 to see if I will replace my Galaxy S2 with it. I strongly believe Note 2 will replace lots of more functions of Nexus 7. I have exact question that what are left to Nexus 7? One thing I am sure to resolve is that MS Office. MS Surface Pro is my dream machine. Is 7" tablet a right form factor? I have no answer at the moment!
I can't even figure why would this be a discussion when the Nexus doesn't even have phone function.
I carry my note and nexus 7 everyday and I will do most of my surfing on the tablet. Occasionally I would need to surf on the note and that's when you thank God that you have a 5 incher instead of 4.
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Will likely be using my Nexus 7 less once I add Note II considering that its 1.6GHz Exynos will be faster than my 1.4GHz Exynos Note 10.1 which is faster and smoother than Tegra3 Nexus 7.
I ctually have the note 1, the nexus 7, and the note 10.1 and love all 3 devices. The note is my hybrid phone that is in a class to itself. Nothing out there like it. I will be getting the note 2. My nexus 7 is perfect for my flashoholic junkie fixes I need and I love the fluidity of JB and the purity of it. I use this as a family tablet for me and the kids. The note 10.1 is my mack daddy tablet that I use for school. I'm a registered nursing student and it's perfect for what I do. It to is super fluid and clean.
I love all my devices and won't part with any.
I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
sbdags said:
Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Wow! Many thanks for the donation! That is very kind of you.
Cheers! :highfive: :good:
My last tablet was the TF101 so I cant complain. My reasoning was the same as jhermit. Its the 701 just happens to be the one. With its high resolution, reflections, and so on. A good buy. The Samsung was the white one everywhere. Otherwise I would have gotten it. The white color really through me off of buying it. Can't figure that one out.
The TF701T keeps dropping in price, it may be the one to get.
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I also have upgraded and have a few thoughts to add.
1. The docking station is all plastic, where the tf700t was metal. The plastic seems cheaper and typing and using the touchpad sounds plasticy, but the keyboard does type a bit easier.
2. The USB port on the base station is very very tight. I feel like I'm going to break it when I'm inserting and removing plugs.
3. The lack of vibration in the tablet is a bit of a let-down. I would have preferred to have the option.
4. The Micro USB port on the tablet is very tight and hard to get a card back out. It might be specific to my unit, but it's still an issue for me.
5. There are better brightness and performance options on the tf700t, but that may be part of the older OS as well.
6. The tablet dock hings has a lot more play/wobble in it. I read elsewhere that this was a design reason but it's floppy when I'm carrying the tablet around with the screen open.
7. Chrome was brutally bad on the tf700t; laggy, slow to load things, etc on both stock and custom ROMs. It appears that the extra horsepower in the tf701t has taken care of that problem.
So far so good on the custom ROM with xposed framework settings. I've restored all settings using Titanium Backup and am happy with it so far.
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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pipopipz said:
I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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Never used a camera on a tablet, ever, so I couldn't tell you but everything else is better.
I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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You would be surprised......
Take a trip to a top tourist destination, marvel and cringe!
I work in tourism and I see more of them every month! And all of them look utterly, totally stupid if you ask me.
The only thing worse are telescopic extensions handles for the iPhone with some kind of trigger build into it's handle to take pictures and videos. Saw about a dozen of those **** in Las Vegas the other night. And for some reason I'm totally convinced that 99.9% of those pictures land in the recycling bin.... Or they should....
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I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
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No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Actually that kind of makes sense as the 701 has USB3.0 on the KBD Dock.
Currently on a TF201
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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Just go ahead and choose the TF701! I did not have older asus tablets, but from the comments I have read since this forum was launched, all the issues that older Asus tablets had were solved. However, I would advise you to make sure that the keyboard you are going to buy is built recently ( ??/2014). Some people are experiencing disconnections between the dock and the tablet. For me I have a 09/2013 build but fortunately everything works as it should
Thats not just 5th best tablet. Thats 5th best consumer technology product of any kind and the top pure tablet on the list. Considering CNET's love affair with Apple this is impressive.
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10-5-inch/
Not bad. Quite happy as well with the 8.4 myself after tweaking it a bit here and there. Super AMOLED is mostly the reason I keep getting Samsung stuff, if only other Android based brands would provide Super AMOLED as well and give Samsung some competition, ie LG. I only know LG as the other brand who does OLED products.
Yes. Once you have gone super amoled on an Android device it is hard to go back to LCD. Windows devices allow us to dial down the gamma which gives just as good blacks as amoled, but until Android allows that as well, amoled is your only option for truly black blacks.
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@jball yeah I still have the S III. It's collecting dust though. I moved on to the S V. You still rockin the S III?
Y.G. said:
@jball yeah I still have the S III. It's collecting dust though. I moved on to the S V. You still rockin the S III?
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Please start an S3 thread in the S3 forum if you wish to discuss the S3.
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mitchellvii said:
Please start an S3 thread in the S3 forum if you wish to discuss the S3.
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Was just answering a question (seems to be deleted now). Not trying to derail your thread breh.
Just stopped by BestBuy to look at the Surface Pro 3. Is it just me or does that thing look and feel cheap? Hated how it felt in my hands. Definitely too big for a tablet. And the screen doesn't come close to the Tab S. Super Amoled has spoiled me forever.
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Just stopped by BestBuy to look at the Surface Pro 3. Is it just me or does that thing look and feel cheap? Hated how it felt in my hands. Definitely too big for a tablet. And the screen doesn't come close to the Tab S. Super Amoled has spoiled me forever.
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Agree. Somehow for me the 8-8.4 size in THE sweet spot for tabs. Got on board with SAMOLED when I bought the original "First" SAMOLED Sammy tab 7.7 a few years back. Got it up to 4.4 (thanks to Civato) and still like to play with it ever so often. Probably will never sell it. I read somewhere the 7.7 was the tab that got Apple all riled up at Sammy...lol! But this Tab S is just perfect!
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Agree. Somehow for me the 8-8.4 size in THE sweet spot for tabs. Got on board with SAMOLED when I bought the original "First" SAMOLED Sammy tab 7.7 a few years back. Got it up to 4.4 (thanks to Civato) and still like to play with it ever so often. Probably will never sell it. I read somewhere the 7.7 was the tab that got Apple all riled up at Sammy...lol! But this Tab S is just perfect!
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I really wanted to like the Surface Pro 3 but it just was so meh to me. Plus if you read the forums it has so many problems. Overheating, throttling, wifi drops, pen drops, touch drops. Just couldn't do it.
Even at the higher resolution the ppi is actually lower than the Surface Pro 2.
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Just stopped by BestBuy to look at the Surface Pro 3. Is it just me or does that thing look and feel cheap? Hated how it felt in my hands. Definitely too big for a tablet. And the screen doesn't come close to the Tab S. Super Amoled has spoiled me forever.
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The Pro 3 isn't supposed to be compared to tablets like the Tab S. It's supposed to be compared to other ultrabooks and high-end laptops like MacBook Pros and Airs.
That being said, I don't think my Pro 3 feels cheap at all. It has a very, sturdy, premium feel to it.
I've haven't compared the screens since I only have the 8.4 and the Pro 3 is so much bigger. I do love the display on the Tab S though.
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I'm probably returning my 8.4.. It's slow in all tasks compared to my iPad Air.. battery life just drains when using it.. it gets hot. Android is still clunky on tablets.. iPads still do everything better in my opinion. If only Apple used this OLED panel on their iPads it would be perfect. .
For being the same price as a iPad Mini I don't see how this is a winner unless you have some aversion to iOS..
I know I must sound like a troll but this Samsung is just slow and choppy/lagging just browsing the web and yes i've tried a stripped, clean, deodexed rom as well which improved it marginally. The choice of a slow Exynos over a 801 Snapdragon is likely a reason, for a "premium" tablet and "premium" pricing Samsung went full derp on the CPU choice.
Most of my above complaints are 90% Android's fault, not Samsung.. If Android actually ran natively to hardware, it might actually smoke iOS in terms of smoothness and speed.
I think Android is far suited better to phones still, even after 3+ years of Android tablet history, it's still a bad experience.
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I'm probably returning my 8.4.. It's slow in all tasks compared to my iPad Air.. battery life just drains when using it.. it gets hot. Android is still clunky on tablets.. iPads still do everything better in my opinion. If only Apple used this OLED panel on their iPads it would be perfect. .
For being the same price as a iPad Mini I don't see how this is a winner unless you have some aversion to iOS..
I know I must sound like a troll but this Samsung is just slow and choppy/lagging just browsing the web and yes i've tried a stripped, clean, deodexed rom as well which improved it marginally. The choice of a slow Exynos over a 801 Snapdragon is likely a reason, for a "premium" tablet and "premium" pricing Samsung went full derp on the CPU choice.
Most of my above complaints are 90% Android's fault, not Samsung.. If Android actually ran natively to hardware, it might actually smoke iOS in terms of smoothness and speed.
I think Android is far suited better to phones still, even after 3+ years of Android tablet history, it's still a bad experience.
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I'm in the market for the Tab S 8.4, after reading this, I'm not too sure anymore. Can anyone confirm? I havent used both device neither.
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I'm in the market for the Tab S 8.4, after reading this, I'm not too sure anymore. Can anyone confirm? I havent used both device neither.
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I don't have any of the issues he's talking about, but I have the Tab S 10.5 (32Gb version) though I doubt they are much different performance wise.
In my case, it's as fast as my wife's iPad 3rd gen, but it has less issues than the iPad which was pissing me off quite often lately..
Battery life should last for weeks if not using it (dropping about 1-2% during the night).
Last time I charged it, it was about 3 days on battery, with a bit over 3 hours screen on time, and there was 72% battery remaining.
For me it's more than enough, I guess some people would need more but I'm ok with it.
Performance is great for me, I haven't had any complains.
Sure, there is sometimes a micro stutter, but they are pretty rare compared to my previous Android tablet.
All in all, it's very nice to use, I'm not thinking about the performance of the device when I'm using it, so I guess that means it's fast enough for me
It boots very fast too if turned off, the sound is better than the iPad 3rd gen, and the screen is just in a league of its own, way ahead of the iPad's and other Android tablets.
There are sometimes Android related quirks like on phones (an app that crashes, etc..) but nothing that's really annoying, and it happens rarely.
I guess you should try it out yourself though (if using one in a store, be sure to kill everything first, as it most likely is filled with stuff in RAM) before making a decision.
I am probably a bit biased because I don't like the limitations of iOS to begin with (though I was using my wife's iPad quite a bit more than my Asus Transformer Prime for performance reasons, even if I was pestering about things I couldn't do on iOS when using it ), so I was waiting for a good Android tablet, but my wife actually wants to replace her iPad with a Tab S now.. she keeps using it when I leave it at home instead of her iPad.
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I don't have any of the issues he's talking about, but I have the Tab S 10.5 (32Gb version) though I doubt they are much different performance wise.
In my case, it's as fast as my wife's iPad 3rd gen, but it has less issues than the iPad which was pissing me off quite often lately..
Battery life should last for weeks if not using it (dropping about 1-2% during the night).
Last time I charged it, it was about 3 days on battery, with a bit over 3 hours screen on time, and there was 72% battery remaining.
For me it's more than enough, I guess some people would need more but I'm ok with it.
Performance is great for me, I haven't had any complains.
Sure, there is sometimes a micro stutter, but they are pretty rare compared to my previous Android tablet.
All in all, it's very nice to use, I'm not thinking about the performance of the device when I'm using it, so I guess that means it's fast enough for me
It boots very fast too if turned off, the sound is better than the iPad 3rd gen, and the screen is just in a league of its own, way ahead of the iPad's and other Android tablets.
There are sometimes Android related quirks like on phones (an app that crashes, etc..) but nothing that's really annoying, and it happens rarely.
I guess you should try it out yourself though (if using one in a store, be sure to kill everything first, as it most likely is filled with stuff in RAM) before making a decision.
I am probably a bit biased because I don't like the limitations of iOS to begin with (though I was using my wife's iPad quite a bit more than my Asus Transformer Prime for performance reasons, even if I was pestering about things I couldn't do on iOS when using it ), so I was waiting for a good Android tablet, but my wife actually wants to replace her iPad with a Tab S now.. she keeps using it when I leave it at home instead of her iPad.
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Thanks for the feedback. I heard you can sync it to your s5 as well(receiving phone calls, etc... ) ?
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Thanks for the feedback. I heard you can sync it to your s5 as well(receiving phone calls, etc... ) ?
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You can indeed use sidesync with the Tab S and an S5
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Thanks for the feedback. I heard you can sync it to your s5 as well(receiving phone calls, etc... ) ?
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Indeed, that works fine as well, though I mostly used it to test out the feature, I haven't really had the need to use it, except once when I was too lazy to go get my phone that I forgot upstairs and wanted to check my sms messages
I am been thinking about getting a new tablet hopefully a Black Friday or Cyber Monday deal. I have S4 phone so I love Samsung products but been torn between Surface Pro 3 or the new 10.5 Tab S. After reading few posts here seems a few of you guys been doing same product comparisons. You seem to swaying me to the Tab... .
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I am been thinking about getting a new tablet hopefully a Black Friday or Cyber Monday deal. I have S4 phone so I love Samsung products but been torn between Surface Pro 3 or the new 10.5 Tab S. After reading few posts here seems a few of you guys been doing same product comparisons. You seem to swaying me to the Tab... .
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let's say your going to pay full price or close enough to it.I would get the
"Tab pro" or a Nexus Tablet .this tablet is nice but the chip isn't the best compared to a Snapdragon in my opinion.not a big enough difference in clarity between Amoled and LCD also in my opinion. Oh and the biggest factor and why most of us are on XDA is the overall development
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Just stopped by BestBuy to look at the Surface Pro 3. Is it just me or does that thing look and feel cheap? Hated how it felt in my hands. Definitely too big for a tablet. And the screen doesn't come close to the Tab S. Super Amoled has spoiled me forever.
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After selling my 32GB Amazon Fire HD 8.9", I also looked at the MS Surface Pro 3 at BB and was not impressed either! You're right, definitely felt cheap and is more overpriced than the Samsung Tab S. Once I saw the display on the Tab S, I was sold. I bought the 32GB 10.5" Tab S mid July and have not regretted the purchase at all!
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let's say your going to pay full price or close enough to it.I would get the
"Tab pro" or a Nexus Tablet .this tablet is nice but the chip isn't the best compared to a Snapdragon in my opinion.not a big enough difference in clarity between Amoled and LCD also in my opinion. Oh and the biggest factor and why most of us are on XDA is the overall development
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Could you compare this one to the Tab 4?
I am dissapointed with note 4 e.g battery poor fingerprint reader and lag. No update to themes. For almost a year been waiting for the problems to go. I didn't buy this phone to turn off its features to almost last a day. So give us a deal for being loyal. eg if you had 2 notes a 20 percent discount to upgrade to note 5.or get the note 4 working properly..
Otherwise I see more people switching to iPhone 7.the 6plus already has a better fingerprint scanner.,camera is as good and definitely a better battery and maybe less bugs.
I've had every note to date... I wish there was a better alternative with a pen.
Same here if you look at my sig.. I had every note generation except the note 1. And I had every galaxy S except the S1... I am going to use my Note 4 til it gives up on me then I will switch brand.
whattttt!!!poor battry!!!!!?
lag!!!!?
I haven't any problem
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your lucky
i think the majority of complaints about this phone are about the battery.....
Love to see something like that, but we know that will never happen. Me and my wife have had the Original Galaxy S, The S3 and now the Note 4. Only reason I personally didn't go with the Nexus 6 was the removable battery and SD Card.
They do here in Brazil. It's not much, around 65 us dollars, but it's good enough. Btw, I'm not sure you have the same phone as me, my SM-N910C, 5.0.1 BOC5 stock with v. 25 ultimate Kernel is just perfect.
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whattttt!!!poor battry!!!!!
lag!!!!
I haven't any problem
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I'd call the battery "decent", of course I'm coming from a Nexus 5 before, so anything would be an improvement. It definitely wasn't as amazing as I had thought it would be.
But lag, yes, so much lag. Pressing Recent Apps and waiting two seconds for anything to happen. Pressing the power button to wake the device and waiting a second for it to turn on. It got so bad that I switched to CM 12.1.
Unfortunately I will not be rooting my 910C because I use knox ...