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[Q] HTC Hero loses space

Hey guys,
I haven't been able to find very much on this, so if you guys can help, that'd be great.
This morning, I woke up, and my phone said "low on space". I tried everything from a reboot to taking the battery out, etc. Then I went into Menu>Setting>SD and Phone storage, and something caught my eye. The "Available Phone Storage" area was losing memory as I was looking at it! It decreased from 500kb, and settled down somewhere around 28kb. And two days ago i had 30MB!!! How did this happen?

bholoo said:
Hey guys,
I haven't been able to find very much on this, so if you guys can help, that'd be great.
This morning, I woke up, and my phone said "low on space". I tried everything from a reboot to taking the battery out, etc. Then I went into Menu>Setting>SD and Phone storage, and something caught my eye. The "Available Phone Storage" area was losing memory as I was looking at it! It decreased from 500kb, and settled down somewhere around 28kb. And two days ago i had 30MB!!! How did this happen?
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What apps do you have installed?
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I just deleted some, but its STILL losing memory
Adfree
Advanced Task Killer
AK notepad
Android to cloud
APKtor
App Protector
Astro
Barcode
Camera Illusion
DialZero
Dictionary
Goggles
LinkPush
Rommanager
Superuser
XDA

bholoo said:
I just deleted some, but its STILL losing memory
Adfree
Advanced Task Killer
AK notepad
Android to cloud
APKtor
App Protector
Astro
Barcode
Camera Illusion
DialZero
Dictionary
Goggles
LinkPush
Rommanager
Superuser
XDA
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The only thing I can think of being a culprit would be an app that needs to be downloading tons of data. I know the XDA app downloads data when you view new forums... do you use that a lot?

Sorta... once or twice a day

bholoo said:
Sorta... once or twice a day
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Ok, try this. Do a fresh install of whatever ROM you're using, and don't install any extra apps. See if you start to lose space like you are right now. Then, install the apps one by one, and you'll see which app is taking up your free space.

Have you tried a wiping and restoring your ROM? That may be your only option. Strange issue to have

mrinehart93 said:
Ok, try this. Do a fresh install of whatever ROM you're using, and don't install any extra apps. See if you start to lose space like you are right now. Then, install the apps one by one, and you'll see which app is taking up your free space.
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+1...beat me to it

my wifes was doing this, i noticed the "contact storage" was almost 80mb! She has over 300 friends on FB and its set to refresh that every 2 hours. Try clicking on menu-settings-then accounts &sync... they are set at default to every2 hours. it would freeze her phone and couldn't receive texts or calls until its don't refreshing sometimes too more than an hour. not sure if this is a complete fix or not just tried it earlier today.

Its the HTC Mail app possibly. There are temp files building up. Only way to clear them is to be rooted and delete them with a file manager.
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Apps using internal storage

Has anyone had any issues with apps using the internal storage instead of the sd card? Any app I download it uses my internal storage to save. How do I change this so out users my external automatically?
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Yea I'm having the same phucking problem and I'm totally fed up with it. I'm about ready to return this POS because Motorola in their phucking infinite wisdom decided to partition the internal memory the way only an idiot would
Wtf? Are you freaking serious Moto? For real. I'd like to meet the idiot who's idea it was to come up with this.
Now we are all limited to a non removable 8gb SD card basically. I can piss 8gb. Where do I freaking put my music Motorola you dumb asses?
Every app I've installed and wanted to use can not have the default location for music changed. So I'm stuck with this tiny ass partition, and an empty 32gb card.
Why the hell even include an External SD card Motorola, why. Its useless
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Download App2SD from the market. You can move almost all the apps to the SD card.

Tornlogic said:
Yea I'm having the same phucking problem and I'm totally fed up with it. I'm about ready to return this POS because Motorola in their phucking infinite wisdom decided to partition the internal memory the way only an idiot would
Wtf? Are you freaking serious Moto? For real. I'd like to meet the idiot who's idea it was to come up with this.
Now we are all limited to a non removable 8gb SD card basically. I can piss 8gb. Where do I freaking put my music Motorola you dumb asses?
Every app I've installed and wanted to use can not have the default location for music changed. So I'm stuck with this tiny ass partition, and an empty 32gb card.
Why the hell even include an External SD card Motorola, why. Its useless
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I noticed this too when I installed the Amazon MP3 store although If you create a file on the External SD card and manually move your files there the music app will see it and play it from there. You can alse mount the phone on your computer and manually move them or use Astro File Manager to move them on the phone. It does suck though to have to jump through those hoops. Why you can't just change the default location is ludicrous.

Obviously, you guys got your Bionic very very recently.
DO NOT TRANSFER APPS TO SDCARD. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL LOSE THE APPS AND YOU NEED TO REINSTALL THEM!
MOTO configured Bionic differently (stupid!), and forces all apps to be installed in internal memory.
However, you can still save your media files on the external sdcard.
p.s. Don't use APP2SD on Bionic.

Why is their a better app? Is their a fix
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mngdew said:
Obviously, you guys got your Bionic very very recently.
DO NOT TRANSFER APPS TO SDCARD. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL LOSE THE APPS AND YOU NEED TO REINSTALL THEM!
MOTO configured Bionic differently (stupid!), and forces all apps to be installed in internal memory.
However, you can still save your media files on the external sdcard.
p.s. Don't use APP2SD on Bionic.
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Why the hell would moto do that. Hopefully a ROM can fix this issue.
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Invixtus said:
Why the hell would moto do that. Hopefully a ROM can fix this issue.
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mngdew said:
Obviously, you guys got your Bionic very very recently.
DO NOT TRANSFER APPS TO SDCARD. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL LOSE THE APPS AND YOU NEED TO REINSTALL THEM!
MOTO configured Bionic differently (stupid!), and forces all apps to be installed in internal memory.
However, you can still save your media files on the external sdcard.
p.s. Don't use APP2SD on Bionic.
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I've been using since day one and it works fine. I haven't lost any apps and haven't had to re-install any of them.

jpeckinp said:
I've been using since day one and it works fine. I haven't lost any apps and haven't had to re-install any of them.
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You can use the program to move apps to the media area without issue. As for moving them to the microSD, it won't let you do that, even with root. So, I'm not sure what the fuss is about?

jpeckinp said:
I've been using since day one and it works fine. I haven't lost any apps and haven't had to re-install any of them.
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When your phone boots up, it fails to properly recognize apps saved to the media area.
To prevent it, just keep all your apps saved to phone until an OTA arrives addressing it.
Search the forums for disappearing apps to get filled in.

OK I thought the media area was the SD card. But I still haven't had a problem with the apps disappearing.

jpeckinp said:
OK I thought the media area was the SD card. But I still haven't had a problem with the apps disappearing.
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Neither have I, and I've been using it for almost a week. FWIW, I haven't seen any of the reports of this problem mention Gingerbread or the Bionic. Not saying it can't happen, but I think app updates have fixed the problem.
UPDATED: Been losing apps left and right today. This isn't an APP2SD issue, but a Bionic issue stemming from the way those tards at MOT decided to partition the internal storage. Why do companies do stupid crap like this?

While I was playing around with my lapdock I discovered something intersting.
I was installing some apk files from my back and discovered that my lapdock had several partitions mounted which started with "com."
It didn't take me long to realize that they were the programs moved to my media area.
They apeared as Ian drives and couldn't be innounted.
I devices to test out a suspicion and restarted only to find that those apparatus disappeared.
After some more testing I realized that by moving the files on the phone between the storage and phone until it no longer loads that app as a drive, then that app won't disappear when the phone is powered off or rebooted.
I know that not everyone has a lapdock to get around the disapearing apps, but this is a temporary solution until a fix is actually released.
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Motorola! Fix your crap and quit slipping!

i'm so confused about this, i had noticed when i loaded my sd card nothing was getting recognized like widget locker themes stuff like that. then i notice that everything is getting downloaded to the internal memory. i went into settings> storage and changed download location to sd card, but everything is still downloading to internal memory. i just don't understand why it isn't looking at my sd card automatically like all of my other phones did, droid x, t-bolt, og. it's driving me effing crazy though. can someone maybe explain in dummy terms what is going on?

nerdkill said:
i'm so confused about this, i had noticed when i loaded my sd card nothing was getting recognized like widget locker themes stuff like that. then i notice that everything is getting downloaded to the internal memory. i went into settings> storage and changed download location to sd card, but everything is still downloading to internal memory. i just don't understand why it isn't looking at my sd card automatically like all of my other phones did, droid x, t-bolt, og. it's driving me effing crazy though. can someone maybe explain in dummy terms what is going on?
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Look at it like this...
Your phone has 16GB of internal memory.
4GB you never see. The system uses that 4GB
8GB is read as internal storage. Motorola designed that for media. That means your videos, pictures and documents.
4GB is for apps. This is where it gets complicated. These 4GB is dedicated to your apps. It was designed to be unintrusive with your main partition.
You shouldn't have to move to SD. Not needed.
Some wishets will only be recognized when the app is on your phone partition.
Does this answered your question?
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Just go into "settings, applications, manage applications" and click the "media area" tab. Any apps that have a "check mark" in them are stored to what is called the "media area." If it reads "com.*" then it has already been uninstalled. Just go reinstall it. Then go in there and all the apps with the check mark... click on the app, and then click the "move to phone" button. Wait a few seconds while it transfers it.
Sadly this is annoying and also sometimes makes the market think that the apps are not installed.
Freaking Motorola. They make such good hardware, it's a pity they put such crap inside.

Disappearing Apps!

This is ridiculous man. I've had 3 moto phones now and have never seen it like this! Every reboot I lose at least 5. The XDA app is cursed on this phone, not to mention others.
Before you ask, I didn't transfer anything to the media area.
This is silly, and needs to get sorted out soon.
/rant
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Same thing happening to me. Annoying to say the least.
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You want to know how bad it was the last time my phone was rebooted? (which was from a battery pull due to the XDA app freezing up the phone) - I had 5 1/2 pages of apps before - now I have 4 1/2.
This is wild...

Just got the bionic
And the same thing has happened to me
Kinda annoying
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mistawolfe said:
This is ridiculous man. I've had 3 moto phones now and have never seen it like this! Every reboot I lose at least 5. The XDA app is cursed on this phone, not to mention others.
Before you ask, I didn't transfer anything to the media area.
This is silly, and needs to get sorted out soon.
/rant
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Ok... I won't ask if you transfered anything to the media area.
What I will ask is if you transfered your file which are in the media area back to the phone.
Some apps will install to the media area by default. You need to move them to the phone in manage apps.
Go to manage apps and select the media area tab. Make sure you go down the line and ensure there are no checks in any boxes.
If you have any, move those apps to phone if you don't want them top disappear.
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@dellenrules
Thanks a bunch. Hadn't heard of that fix. Had like 5 that kept disappearing.
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dellenrules said:
Ok... I won't ask if you transfered anything to the media area.
What I will ask is if you transfered your file which are in the media area back to the phone.
Some apps will install to the media area by default. You need to move them to the phone in manage apps.
Go to manage apps and select the media area tab. Make sure you go down the line and ensure there are no checks in any boxes.
If you have any, move those apps to phone if you don't want them top disappear.
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You're a boss.
Just did what you said. I will report back at the end of the day if I lost any apps.
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Not so fast
I just followed the recommendation to the T. And when I attempt to uncheck the box, I get a screen that allows me to move the app back to the phone.
So I next tried to move the app back to the phone, but when I do, I get a popup that states: "FAILED TO MOVE APPLICATION". Repeated tries yield the same results.
The QC on this phone is rubbish.

+1 ... I usually lose XDA, Netflix, and Madden 12. Madden 12 won't even show up in the market for me either although I have paid for it.

If the app you're trying to movve is already missing try re-installing it from the market before you move it to keep your data.
The apps which disapeared all start with "COM." And will have to be re-installed before you can move them.
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When I download apps from Android Market, the Bionic occasionally (rarely) throws an insufficient storage message just prior to installation, despite have >2GB of application storage available. The downloaded file just disappears after that.
If I had to guess, when my apps disappear, they do so during automatic updates.

If you get that error, most likely it was trying to save an app to your media area.
Re-download and install the app.
Once install is complete, send the app back to phone asap. Get it out of the media area.
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dellenrules said:
Ok... I won't ask if you transfered anything to the media area.
What I will ask is if you transfered your file which are in the media area back to the phone.
Some apps will install to the media area by default. You need to move them to the phone in manage apps.
Go to manage apps and select the media area tab. Make sure you go down the line and ensure there are no checks in any boxes.
If you have any, move those apps to phone if you don't want them top disappear.
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This worked for me. No more disappearing apps. Thanks.
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UN mounting and re mounting the internal storage works. So does restarting the launcher after the initial boot. You can use a task manager to kill the home process... When it restarts all my apps re appear
Weak we have to go through all that trouble... But it is better than no fix at all.

Losing apps is not Bionic specific
Dear All:
My lg revolution does the same thing, when I reboot phone not all the apps load. It seems to be software related aka Android glitches. The apps I have installed to the external SD card are the ones that are sometimes lost. Internal memory apps never get lost. BTW my wife's Fascinate the same thing.

drutman said:
Dear All:
My lg revolution does the same thing, when I reboot phone not all the apps load. It seems to be software related aka Android glitches. The apps I have installed to the external SD card are the ones that are sometimes lost. Internal memory apps never get lost. BTW my wife's Fascinate the same thing.
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What class SD card are you using? Try a slower class card. It also might be the brand is not compatible.
Your SD card is the problem.
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I had this problem as well, and after doing a bit of searching around, this is what I came up with. This is apparently a problem plaguing the Bionic right now, and will hopefully be fixed with the soon to come OTA update. When you download apps, go to settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Media Area, and uncheck the apps that you want the phone to not delete, or if it's a new app you just downloaded, make sure it ISN'T checked. In a sense, sometimes the phone will save apps to the SD card (when the box is checked) automatically besides the standard internal memory, therefore when the phone reboots, it might not read the apps in your SD memory very well. So until the OTA udpate comes through, just double check in this area that all apps are unchecked (unless it's Backbreaker, or something). For instance, my DroidForums application kept uninstalling itself, and after checking the Media Area, I noticed that the box beside the name was "checked." After unchecking, it is no longer removing itself.

'Internal Storage Left' message

On both my Nexus 4 & Nexus 7 running latest factory Jellybean I have noticed that whenever I update an app using the Google play store I get a little popup message saying 'Internal Storage Left' and then a number that is only a couple of MB.
Both my devices have quite a few GB free so I am wondering what this means, where it is coming from and how to stop it.
Cheers
Baz.
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Do you use "Clean Master" application? I think this come from it!

Getting the same message on my Xperia Z, latest 4.2 stock.
Never heard of that Clean Master app!
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onclebob said:
Do you use "Clean Master" application? I think this come from it!
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Never heard of it.
Curiously I did notice this morning that the amount of memory displayed per app is consistent on both my devices. That is to say that updating the Ebay app on my Nexus 4 gave the popup of 'Internal Storage Left 1.13MB', updating the same app on my Nexus 7 gave exactly the same message.

The same happens to me... Nexus 7 2013
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You all know apps install on the system partition I believe..? Not their data...but the apps themselves. If the system partition fills up, no more apps....no matter how much internal sd space you have left.
Correct me if I'm wrong??
Not saying this is the issue at hand....just wanted to point out the proper place to look at space available.
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I've only started getting that message the last week ,its says I have 1.5GB free on my 8 GB N7 mmm
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dgattenb said:
I've only started getting that message the last week ,its says I have 1.5GB free on my 8 GB N7 mmm
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I got also that message this morning and I have 4G+, a play store bug?

There are reports in many android related forums about this, the general consensus is it's a Google bug with one of it's services.
It happened on my HTC, I actually did a soft reset (shutdown and battery pull) thinking something was crashing out and I have not seen it happen again since.
Pressing and holding the power button on the Nexus 7 for 10 seconds will trigger a soft reset as well.

It started appearing on my GNex and n7, seems like it's on my mum's n4 too.
Beamed from my Grouper

I just started seeing this on my 2012 and 2013 Nexus 7 devices. Anytime I install something from the market I get this message. It is telling my I have like 2MB free. There is at least 10GB free so I'm not sure what is up.

I've noticed this message appear today when i've tried to install some apps on my N4. So i uninstalled the most likely ones that could potentially interfere with the system and reinstalled them one by one and on my N4 it seems that ES File Explorer File Manager is the guilty app. I can still install apps but i get a pop up with the low storage alert every time i install anything. There's 12GB spare space on my phone as well.

Interesting.. I have that installed too. I'll uninstall to see what happens. Thank for the info.
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I've noticed this message appear today when i've tried to install some apps on my N4. So i uninstalled the most likely ones that could potentially interfere with the system and reinstalled them one by one and on my N4 it seems that ES File Explorer File Manager is the guilty app. I can still install apps but i get a pop up with the low storage alert every time i install anything. There's 12GB spare space on my phone as well.
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I've done testing on my Nexus tonight and since i uninstalled ES File Explorer i do not get the low space message. I've installed loads of apps tonight including some huge Gameloft ones and no errors or low space messages. Now i need to find another File Manager app.

dodgydave100 said:
I've done testing on my Nexus tonight and since i uninstalled ES File Explorer i do not get the low space message. I've installed loads of apps tonight including some huge Gameloft ones and no errors or low space messages. Now i need to find another File Manager app.
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Thanks, I was also getting this message recently. I am not sure if it really matters but for now I have also uninstalled and will just use FX File Explorer, Astro or some other alternative.

Fensy said:
Thanks, I was also getting this message recently. I am not sure if it really matters but for now I have also uninstalled and will just use FX File Explorer, Astro or some other alternative.
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ES File Explorer was updated today so hopefully it may resolve the issue. I have also contacted the developer and given them this URL to see whether or not they can identify if it is the cause.

Pretty sure that they added something in, all they need to do is reverse the code change.
Beamed from my Maguro

dodgydave100 said:
I've noticed this message appear today when i've tried to install some apps on my N4. So i uninstalled the most likely ones that could potentially interfere with the system and reinstalled them one by one and on my N4 it seems that ES File Explorer File Manager is the guilty app. I can still install apps but i get a pop up with the low storage alert every time i install anything. There's 12GB spare space on my phone as well.
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Good call, mate. This was irritating me from a knowledge standpoint. I'm okay to keep ES installed until this silliness is patched, (their file-explorer is that good..imo) I just wanted to know where it was coming from.
I did uninstall it just to test, and I no longer received the messages either. So this is basically settled. I'll email the developers about the problem, just as Baz8755 already has, and I'm sure it'll be fixed in no time. Everyone doesn't need to get a new file explorer--unless they really want to, of course.
Anyway, thanks again DodgyDave100. You're not quite so dodgy, are you?

And here I just figured the new Market app was doing it. Well hopefully ES fixes it. It is a bit annoying.

You can turn it off
Es file manager is definitely the culprit. If you go to settings>display and uncheck the box for Show space low warning you will disable the popup. I assume it's showing it when you use more than half of your internal memory.

When ever I move something to my external sd card it seems to go somewhere and I can'

I tried freeing up space on internal memory by moving pictures,videos and apps to external card when I fix I lost pictures and apps show up in the app drawer but they are greyed out and say not installed. Anyone no why
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gscarborough said:
I tried freeing up space on internal memory by moving pictures,videos and apps to external card when I fix I lost pictures and apps show up in the app drawer but they are greyed out and say not installed. Anyone no why
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What are you using to move them? Is this just on stock ROM? Are you rooted? More details, please.

slimbrady said:
What are you using to move them? Is this just on stock ROM? Are you rooted? More details, please.
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rooted S-off and on stock rom. ive used es file explorer and htc free space to move the items.

gscarborough said:
rooted S-off and on stock rom. ive used es file explorer and htc free space to move the items.
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Ok so you're not using an app designed specifically for moving other apps/etc to your SD then. With that being the case you'll need to be very careful in where you're pulling the data from if you expect it to continue functioning as it used to.
You mentioned initially that your moved pictures and videos still show up in the app drawer but are greyed out and say not installed....this is a bit confusing as pictures and videos are usually just single file images or single file video clips and would not ever actually show up in the app drawer and are instead accessed via an app from the app drawer like Gallery or Google Photos, etc. Generally speaking, the apps themselves are usually much smaller than the total amount of space taken up by your videos or (if you have a lot) pictures....you don't even need that many pictures to start adding up to a respectable size if they are all High Quality images.
So, I would recommend you attempt to undo the moves you've made thus far (though if you can't get the apps to show back up as normal then just reinstall them then clean your SD card and internal memory with a junk cleaner) and focus solely on ".img, .png, .mov, .mp3, .gif, .jpeg, .mp4" or any other similarly formatted files if you're doing the moves freely with a root explorer like ES.
If you really want to move your apps over, or at least some of them, try using an app specifically designed for that purpose as this will hopefully ensure they continue to function after the move.....If you're on the stock ROM you should be able to move the apps just by going to Settings > Storage I think or Settings > Apps. One of those two (pretty sure it's storage but I'm on AOSP rom atm so can't check sry) and then click on one of your apps you should get options to Force Quit, Clear Cache, Clear Data then below those you should see a Move to SD option.
Hope this helps! Let me know if I wasn't clear enough or you have further questions^^

No you were very clear I wasn't clear when I said the pictures and videos in the app drawer I should have said from the gallery they where showing up as an empty space Now I believe my card was just going corrupt because it's corrupted now
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i have this issue as well. When i transfer files like pictures and music from my internal to my external it says its transferred which is cool but when i reboot the device the files are gone. I have tried the sd card fix apps in the play store and it says its fixed but obviously not. It wont let me format either on the computer or on the phone or it says it does but it actually doesnt. So i have lost all hope on what to do i dont want to buy another card if this is going to happen to it.