Hi guys,
i want to buy me a cheap small android tabelt. So i looked for the fire tabelt 7 (2015) and the lenovo tab 2 a7-10. Both devices have the same price. Both devices can be rooted and booth devices have nearly the same specs.
Which one would you prefeer? I want to make a dashboard for my home automation, so i want to fix the tabelt on the wall in my living room. I also want to surf in the internet, but only very rare. Most thing would be controlling my smart home - so the power of the two tablets and the free space would be enough for this.
Can someone help my with my decision? I haven´t seen one of the tablets in real.
No experience with the lenovo can tell you the fire is amazing and has amazing battery life doesn't drain in standby doesn't lag for me and I'm on stock amazon with root
Sent from my Amazon Fire 2015
I would get the Fire, there is active development, other than that they are spec'd about the same.
Both have:
7inch displays at 1024px x 600px
MediaTek® MT8127 1.3GHz Quad-Core processors
1GB ram
Lenovo Tab 2 A7 has:
GPS
Kitkat
Vibration
$69.99
Fire has:
Two cameras
Lollipop
$50 or cheaper
I´m afraid of the streched display in landscape - this is the only tablet i know about the problem. If i will watch tv with the tablet, all persons will be a little bit fat. Circles will not be fully a circle, more like an egg.
Is this a big problem?
Bib_x said:
I´m afraid of the streched display in landscape...
Is this a big problem?
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You tell us..?[emoji67]
Just get the Lenovo though.
Bib_x said:
I´m afraid of the streched display in landscape - this is the only tablet i know about the problem. If i will watch tv with the tablet, all persons will be a little bit fat. Circles will not be fully a circle, more like an egg.
Is this a big problem?
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That's an extra use that no one could have seen from op. Given prices and spec wouldn't be surprised if it's the same screen tbh. Speaker likely better on lenovo.
The reasons given for picking the fire by others above don't seem to be important for main use you envisage for it.
Is the home automation stuff all wireless? Assume you'll be leaving tablet connected to power supply when in situe so USB socket will be filled with charger
So the stretched screen is no big problem.
I want to use the tablet to control my home automation, which is running on a linux server. So the tablet will only show the dashboard - no device is connected to it directly, only wlan. The charger will be permanently plugged into the tablet.
Maybe sometimes i will watch a video-stream from my sat-receiver, when i´m in my bedroom or when my wife is in the home gym - indoor cycling or something like this.
Pond-life said:
That's an extra use that no one could have seen from op. Given prices and spec wouldn't be surprised if it's the same screen tbh. Speaker likely better on lenovo.
The reasons given for picking the fire by others above don't seem to be important for main use you envisage for it.
Is the home automation stuff all wireless? Assume you'll be leaving tablet connected to power supply when in situe so USB socket will be filled with charger
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[emoji67] Home automation stuff is generally either wifi and sometimes (rarely) bluetooth. Also he could install wireless charging on the tablet which would leave his micro usb port open for other things if he wanted.
4t701 said:
[emoji67] Home automation stuff is generally either wifi and sometimes (rarely) bluetooth. Also he could install wireless charging on the tablet which would leave his micro usb port open for other things if he wanted.
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Didn't know that had been done. Wonder what else is in depths of this Fire section. That's rather cool addition
Bib_x said:
So the stretched screen is no big problem.
I want to use the tablet to control my home automation, which is running on a linux server. So the tablet will only show the dashboard - no device is connected to it directly, only wlan. The charger will be permanently plugged into the tablet.
Maybe sometimes i will watch a video-stream from my sat-receiver, when i´m in my bedroom or when my wife is in the home gym - indoor cycling or something like this.
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-home automation
-linux server
-sat TV
-wife
-home gym
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Sounds like a pretty nice setup you got there [emoji67] [emoji106]
I use it to watch TV via the charter spectrum app and I don't notice any distortion of the people.
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Bib_x said:
So the stretched screen is no big problem.
I want to use the tablet to control my home automation, which is running on a linux server. So the tablet will only show the dashboard - no device is connected to it directly, only wlan. The charger will be permanently plugged into the tablet.
Maybe sometimes i will watch a video-stream from my sat-receiver, when i´m in my bedroom or when my wife is in the home gym - indoor cycling or something like this.
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I use it to watch TV via the charter spectrum app and I don't notice any distortion of the people
Sounds like it will come down to whether you think the Fire's screen distortion might be a problem for you. I'm afraid we can't tell you how "bad" it is because it seems to vary widely from person to person. Some don't notice it, at all. Others, can not return their Fire fast enough! Despite the fact that they got it for only $35 on sale.
Imo, I'd go for a Fire. You can always return if you find you're one of the people who are greatly bothered by the distortion. Amazon's return are quite good.
Bib_x said:
I want to use the tablet to control my home automation, which is running on a linux server. So the tablet will only show the dashboard - no device is connected to it directly, only wlan. The charger will be permanently plugged into the tablet.
Maybe sometimes i will watch a video-stream from my sat-receiver, when i´m in my bedroom or when my wife is in the home gym - indoor cycling or something like this.
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-home automation
-linux server
-sat TV
-wife
-home gym
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Sounds like a pretty nice setup you got there [emoji67] [emoji106]
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Would you share details of your linux server. Also which tv streaming solution you're using.
I have a linux sat-receiver, similar to dreambox. With this i can stream the tv-programm to any notebook, tablet or smartphone in my wlan. So i don´t need to install another big tv in the bedroom, i can take the small tablet with earplugs and so my wife can sleep while i watch tv.
My linux server is a odroid u3 with ubuntu. The server-software for my home automation is openhab. And my home automation equipment is mostly KNX (EIB), i don´t know if this is known outside europe. It is a wired solution, used in hotels, hospitals or company buildings. But with the openhab server i can control anything i want, not only KNX, also enocean, z-wave, my heating pump, media equipment (TV, Mediaserver, ...) and so on.
I can control the home automation on openhab with every webbrowser or with an android-app.
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[emoji67]Also he could install wireless charging on the tablet which would leave his micro usb port open for other things if he wanted.
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Can you give us a link to wireless charging for the fire tablet? I want to know more about that.
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Can you give us a link to wireless charging for the fire tablet? I want to know more about that.
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It is in this thread, they didn't mention a better source than the unreliable one the pic in 2nd post links to, and I couldn't find a better one either though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...o-photo-amazon-fire-2015-motherboard-t3227808
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I am looking to get a b+ to set up as a mini computer on the cheap.
What do you guys use your pi for?
Torrent downloader + media player
desde Tapatalk móvil
Routinely sits in front of the TV as a media player too (OpenElec), but after a quick change of SD card has a second identity for the kids with Minecraft, Scratch and beginning to edge towards Python and some similar coding and basic I/O learning via the GPIO.
The Pi is OK as a cheap computer, as long as you don't expect too much from it in terms of processing power. If what you want to do could broadly be done on a smartphone or similar device (or a mid-spec tablet) then you should be ok, but if you want to replace a true PC then you may struggle depending on exactly what it is you plan. It'll certainly handle day-to-day stuff like email and web browsing though (if you're not so concerned about flash and that kind of stuff, as with mobiles too).
Currently using my Pi as a web server. It does well for keeping it up and running but there is a problem regarding power. I'm using a Bluetooth and WiFi adapter (as I have no way of connecting it to Ethernet), the power issue is that the poly fuses kind of blow up after a few days or hours and therefore either one or both of the USB ports don't have any power, I have to disconnect the power and then plug it in after a few hours/minutes and then it works again (self-repair). Really annoying so I may need keep it for local hosting while an other product that I'm hoping to receive shouldn't have issues with it and should be more powerful so that I can make it public and run it with no issues.
The Pi tries to use less power as possible by boosting the power to the USB ports (consider the fact that the Pi takes around 5v of power, same for a single USB port) so if you need to use USB devices which are doing to be a little intensive with power then expect the USB devices to get a power cut off.
If the Pi is going to be used for something that isn't so power hungry then it should do for certain things.
You can boost the Pi's power (talking about literal energy, not performance) but that means more parts.
You may also partially get around that by using a powered hub to take some of the strain. But there again you are adding additional parts and power requirements. There are cases available with built-in hubs and more chunky power supplies to drive both the hub and the Pi which at least partially get around some of that, but it's more investment.
The other alternative is to minimise such power-hungry items and consider things like ethernet-by-powerline for the network if a direct cable would be inconvenient or impossible (but again at the cost of extra bits of hardware and further set-up).
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The Pi is OK as a cheap computer, as long as you don't expect too much from it in terms of processing power.
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Yeah, this will not replace my pc, rather just be a little fun project, as it will be more unique than a tablet, and serve the same purpose.
Media center and APRS digi, another is my marine reef tank controller
Portable (battery powered) Mp3 player/Internet radio streamer.
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Portable (battery powered) Mp3 player/Internet radio streamer.
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Where do you get a suitable battery pack from?
I bought it with a whole host of wonderful ideas of what to use it for, and never got round to anything.
Very occasionally it gets used as a media player (with OpenELEC), with an external HD, but since I've had a Chromecast it's pretty much been gathering dust!
One day I'll get round to doing this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/ambilight-alike/
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Amazon; 2600 mAh cellphone charger. It only cost around five dollars and provides stable output while charging, so you don't have to bother with switching it when the charger is plugged in.
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I also have one connected to a 1TB hard disk I use as a file/print server. It doesn't actually see much use, but it consumes so little power that there's no harm leaving it on.
house automation
I use mine as a server for house automation using FHEM.
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Just normal portable battery is ok.
Mine makes me hungry
Mine is a honeypot
(always work in progress)
http://nowhere.purificato.org:65000/
As server,for play music+films and for learning,but most for crying,lol.
GREETZ FROM TEAM-OPTIMA!!!
All sorts!
I've used mine as a web server, a bluetooth portable speaker, a wifi point (when my wifi access point went bang) and now it sits and controls the lighting in my computer and cupboard-under-the-stairs!! (where me and my computer live!!)
I'm gonna get some arduino stuff and adafruit stuff to do the lighting soon then I'll figure out another use for it.
Probably going to buy a B+ board and retire my current one to my son so he can do his school Scratch projects on it.
Probably the best thing ive bought for its versatility.
Not much as of yet
I haven't been using my raspberry pi for a few months now due to my hectic work schedule, however the only use I had for it was media center purposes. I ran both RasPlex and Raspbmc (with the latter being the preferred OS).
I'm hoping that with the new year almost upon us that I'll be able to look into other uses. I'm mainly interested in either home automation or home security. Although I have a friend who is working on making an arcade cabinet using i-pac equipment and pimame as an OS which has piqued my interests severely.
Torrent + Network Attached Storage
MY PI
I generally use my Raspberry for the night when i turn the pc off. In the day I use it As A Universal Remote Control for Nearly everything that's it how i use my PI...
Hi.
Look at me, some new jerk with his first post being a request for screen mirroring on the Pi. What a douche right?
I have been doing a lot of research into this and nothing really seems too promising. Who the hell needs screen mirroring right? Just "play to", share the network, use lodi with custom repos or buy a chromecast and gtfo!
Dont get me wrong, I love the Pi, great device. Main problem is it is slow. Now Kodi running on my tablet screen mirrored over to my TV sure sounds a lot better. Since my TV, Xbox, playstation etc all currently do not want to screen mirror with me just yet, I think the Pi might be a good way to mirror the tablet to the TV since the tablet has a bit more CPU and 4 times the ram. The goal is of course to spend $0.
Raspberry Pi (original) model B (overclocked to over the highest settings)
Xbox One
Nexus 7-2 Tablet (rooted)
A slew of wires, none that go from usb to hdmi. One that goes from usb to VGA and another that goes from AV to hdmi)
An OTG cable (male microusb to female reg usb)
I feel like with the above I should be able to control the world :cyclops:, but I just cant seem to get anything going? What are your thoughts, I need a second pair of eyes on this as I could totally be thinking about this all wrong.
Thanks
https://github.com/lanceseidman/PiCAST/tree/picast2?files=1
https://github.com/codemonkeyricky/piracast
I think this is what you are looking for..
Screen Monitoring D:
i am also facing this .. hope #2 help
Hello guys, I'm planning to build my first carputer. 2 years ago I have modified a tablet, Asus zenpad 8, very similar to Nexus 7 in my opinion. Now I want something more.
What I want:
Fully automated pc that works exactly like an android head unit but much better and more flexibility when it comes to external devices like an external DAC with optical output. Actually this is the main reason for not buying an android head unit, didn't find one that works very well with an external DAC. Some other things that I want from this carputer: the compatibility with steering wheel controls, backup camera, fm or even DAB radio, gps, phone calls( via bluetooth), 4G internet and so on. Many of those things are pretty simple to integrate, will talk about them later.
The components:
1. The pc - didn't think about it yet because there are loads of mini pc on the market for good prices. The only problem I'm thinking is the start up on ignition. First I wanted to go for a Remix mini pc but I don't know how could I make it start on ignition and after that automatically play the last song. If I would go for a normal PC, I found a smart PSU which has the possibility of ignition start and stop and puts the computer in sleep mode. That way I will avoid the waiting time for the boot, in fact the computer will be permanently turned on. The only problem I can think of, is the compatibility of this PSU with the android Remix OS. Is it possible?
I've tested the Remix OS and I like it, very quiq, easy to use in car with a touch screen, support all the external devices( wifi, 4g, fm and DAB, external DAC with optical output) and the launcher can be changed. I know I can opt for Windows OS and that way I will be sure that the PSU works but in my opinion windows is not so "mobile friendly", not so easy to use in car.
2. The screen: not so many to talk about, found on ebay some 9" tft touch screens, very good resolution, hdmi connectivity and USB for touch. The best thing with these screens is the AV2 input for the backup camera. The screen automatically switch to this input, has guidance lines, and this way I solved the problem with the camera. And also is quite cheap.
3. Steering wheel controls. Found on ebay the Joycon steering wheel adapter that is compatible with Android. I just have to make an initial configuration and that's it, nothing more, simply works through USB.
4. The other external devices: all of them can be found on ebay for good prices. The only thing that worries me is the bluetooth compatibility. I remember when I built that Asus zenpad tablet, I couldn't find a solution for this. Now my question is, what type of bluetooth adapter should I buy and how do I integrate this in the carputer. And I'm not talking about physical connection, I think I will need some kind of software, app, that knows what to do with this bluetooth adapter.
So, in the end, I would need some help regarding the ignition start, just the hardware part of it, all the other automatic things (launch the app and play the song) can be made with tasker very easy. Also I would need some help with the bluetooth phone calls.
Hope I didn't miss any important thing and I will appreciate any help. Thanks.
yoiedi said:
Hello guys, I'm planning to build my first carputer. 2 years ago I have modified a tablet, Asus zenpad 8, very similar to Nexus 7 in my opinion. Now I want something more.
What I want:
Fully automated pc that works exactly like an android head unit but much better and more flexibility when it comes to external devices like an external DAC with optical output. Actually this is the main reason for not buying an android head unit, didn't find one that works very well with an external DAC. Some other things that I want from this carputer: the compatibility with steering wheel controls, backup camera, fm or even DAB radio, gps, phone calls( via bluetooth), 4G internet and so on. Many of those things are pretty simple to integrate, will talk about them later.
The components:
1. The pc - didn't think about it yet because there are loads of mini pc on the market for good prices. The only problem I'm thinking is the start up on ignition. First I wanted to go for a Remix mini pc but I don't know how could I make it start on ignition and after that automatically play the last song. If I would go for a normal PC, I found a smart PSU which has the possibility of ignition start and stop and puts the computer in sleep mode. That way I will avoid the waiting time for the boot, in fact the computer will be permanently turned on. The only problem I can think of, is the compatibility of this PSU with the android Remix OS. Is it possible?
I've tested the Remix OS and I like it, very quiq, easy to use in car with a touch screen, support all the external devices( wifi, 4g, fm and DAB, external DAC with optical output) and the launcher can be changed. I know I can opt for Windows OS and that way I will be sure that the PSU works but in my opinion windows is not so "mobile friendly", not so easy to use in car.
2. The screen: not so many to talk about, found on ebay some 9" tft touch screens, very good resolution, hdmi connectivity and USB for touch. The best thing with these screens is the AV2 input for the backup camera. The screen automatically switch to this input, has guidance lines, and this way I solved the problem with the camera. And also is quite cheap.
3. Steering wheel controls. Found on ebay the Joycon steering wheel adapter that is compatible with Android. I just have to make an initial configuration and that's it, nothing more, simply works through USB.
4. The other external devices: all of them can be found on ebay for good prices. The only thing that worries me is the bluetooth compatibility. I remember when I built that Asus zenpad tablet, I couldn't find a solution for this. Now my question is, what type of bluetooth adapter should I buy and how do I integrate this in the carputer. And I'm not talking about physical connection, I think I will need some kind of software, app, that knows what to do with this bluetooth adapter.
So, in the end, I would need some help regarding the ignition start, just the hardware part of it, all the other automatic things (launch the app and play the song) can be made with tasker very easy. Also I would need some help with the bluetooth phone calls.
Hope I didn't miss any important thing and I will appreciate any help. Thanks.
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Have you thought about using a rock 64 single board computer like a Raspberry Pi that Android is really supported something like that could work really well as it has gpio outputs for various functions USB inputs for audio dacs and DAB radio and can work with touch screens or even projectors for heads up.
The truth is I know nothing about raspberry pi, heard about them but nothing more. Can you please explain a bit more? Is it possible to make it automatically turn on/off on ignition? How? Apparently that's the hardest part of the job. I've read on the internet that Remix OS doesn't work very well with stand-by function and if I'll make it to shut down completely, I'm afraid that will take too long to boot back. I was thinking about Remix mini pc and a controller that simulates pressing of the on/off button simultaneously with the ignition but it has to be tested.
So, quickly searched on google about raspberry pi and banana pi possibilities, there are some power supplies for in car use, basically they simulate a shut down from the button with a delay. That looks very good, very easy to do and also very cheap. But, how fast can boot a raspberry or banana pi running Remix OS? Does anyone know?
yoiedi said:
The truth is I know nothing about raspberry pi, heard about them but nothing more. Can you please explain a bit more? Is it possible to make it automatically turn on/off on ignition? How? Apparently that's the hardest part of the job. I've read on the internet that Remix OS doesn't work very well with stand-by function and if I'll make it to shut down completely, I'm afraid that will take too long to boot back. I was thinking about Remix mini pc and a controller that simulates pressing of the on/off button simultaneously with the ignition but it has to be tested.
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To make it turn off and on with the ignition, just plug it into a 12v line that is powered when ignition is on. Generally the 12v line to your head unit fits that criteria. If you want constant power to keep the device in standby mode, you can connect a relay to an a wire that is powered when the car is powered, then use the relay to short the pins of the standby button.
For boot time, you can achieve quite a bit of improvement by getting the fastest sdcard you can buy.
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Check these out http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php
yoiedi said:
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Why don't you get an android head unit?
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Why don't you get an android head unit?
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I think you didn't read, I couldn't find any that works with an external sound card(DAC). My audio system is quite expensive, made for sound quality, and of course I want the head unit to be as good as possible. An external sound card with optical output I think is the best you can get.
Google search "raspberry pi alternative" theres lots of these little gadgets now adays, raspberry pi 3B is one of the most popular ( and cheapest) but there are more out there that are more powerful & better hardware.. The ASUS Tinkerboard is becoming popular as well I think I may be getting one for a streaming machine.
I've already purchased the PC and ordered the PSU. The price for all those components(+ a 30gb ssd) was under 100£ so not very expensive. Why I went for a pc instead of a single board pc? I don't know, maybe because I have no previous experience with them. Yes is true that is way much bigger than a raspberry alternative and the power consumption as well but I don't mind, maybe in the future when I'll get bored again I will try one of those pc's.
So, I've tried to install the Android X86 64bit (there is one version on internet with a patch that removes the confirmation message when you want to shut it down) on this pc with no success, all I've got was a black screen or a continuous reboot. Found out that Android X86 64bit is not so friendly with AMD cpu's. Should've search for that before buying it. Anyway, tried the 32bit version so that one works very well but I didn't find any with that patch installed. How can I remove that confirmation message when the power button is pressed?
Thanks.
first tests, quite happy with it, still lot of work to do.
https://youtu.be/lNJmRjXG81A
Odroid C2 with android + kodi
Hello Everyone,
First post here ! I've been reading a lot of very interesting things around here but I find myself stuck, hence this new thread (no ****, sherlock). I've been looking around on Google and here but couldn't really find what I was looking for so here I am.
First of all, a bit of context so that you get what I'm trying to achieve. I have a very old computer that I use for gaming. I'm not a hardcore gamers looking to play in 4K 360FPS and not part of the PC Master race by any means. With that said, I'm still looking at 1080p 60fps as my goal. And amazingly enough, my old PC allows me to do that. In fact, despite its age, my PC runs fairly well. So well that I don't feel the need to spend money to change it (plus money is tight). So, playing on my PC is actually great, can't complain there. However, I also enjoy playing in the living room. I actually play more with a controller in "console" mode than sitting at my desk. If my PC was close to the TV, the problem would be easily solved. As it's not the case I have to rely on other solutions.
I have a nvidia shield TV and tried Gamestream and Steam Link. Both are unfortunately dependent on my local network quality. Considering I'm using powerlines to connect my PC to the router, the quality is sometime unstable which doesn't meet my requirements. As stated previously, my PC is OLD and I don't think it's powerful enough to run and stream the game with a decent output either. So old hardware and unstable local network = bad experience in game streaming. And this is where I'm trying to achieve the contrary then what everyone is doing : people are streaming there games to their living room, I plan do the opposite.
I have a Nexus 7 sitting in a drawer somewhere that I don't use anymore. I was thinking of the following setup :
- Move my computer to the living room and plug it to the TV --> enjoy good gaming performance right in the leaving room
- Use my Nexus 7 in my office using remote desktop app --> less heavy than gaming, I should be able to work on Word, Excel, browse the web. Basically, use my PC for computing stuff via remote desktop with little to no delay.
- My office would actually look cleaner as well with a very minimalistic setup ^^
Problem :
- Is there a way to connect the Nexus 7 to a monitor using HDMI;
- Keep the Nexus 7 charged;
- And connect a keyboard and mouse to the Nexus via USB ? Or BT is the way to go ?
- Could this be achieved more easily with a Chromecast ? If yes, how should i proceed ?
- Would using the computer for everything else than gaming be OK in that configuration ?
It looks like a fun project to try. However, if it proves to be impossible or if you think the performance would be too poor to be usable, than I'll think about building another cheap PC (I have an old I5 760 lying around) : 1 for gaming and 1 for office stuff.
Is the Nexus 7 the 2012 or 2013 variety? From what I can find, the 2012 does NOT have a slimport USB but the 2013 DOES. In which case, buying the right cable should let you connect it directly to a monitor.
If you have the 2012 version... I can't give a true recommendation since I've never tried this, but if you do end up going the chromecast-attached-to-a-monitor/tv route, I would use Chrome to cast the desktop (apparently you can do this) to the chromecast instead of casting from your tablet. Meaning, don't cast your remote desktop from the tablet to the TV, use the tablet to remotely cast your desktop to the chromecast. Hopefully that's clear. The amount of lag from casting a remote desktop would probably make it unusable.
Hello,
I have the 2013 model so yes, with the right adapter I should be able to connect it to a monitor. Now There is still the issue of using a KB and mouse with it while keeping the tablet charged (the battery drains quite fast when casting). Maybe that's too much to handle for a tablet ^^
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Is the Nexus 7 the 2012 or 2013 variety? From what I can find, the 2012 does NOT have a slimport USB but the 2013 DOES. In which case, buying the right cable should let you connect it directly to a monitor.
If you have the 2012 version... I can't give a true recommendation since I've never tried this, but if you do end up going the chromecast-attached-to-a-monitor/tv route, I would use Chrome to cast the desktop (apparently you can do this) to the chromecast instead of casting from your tablet. Meaning, don't cast your remote desktop from the tablet to the TV, use the tablet to remotely cast your desktop to the chromecast. Hopefully that's clear. The amount of lag from casting a remote desktop would probably make it unusable.
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Torontonian22 said:
Hello,
I have the 2013 model so yes, with the right adapter I should be able to connect it to a monitor. Now There is still the issue of using a KB and mouse with it while keeping the tablet charged (the battery drains quite fast when casting). Maybe that's too much to handle for a tablet ^^
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https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16834989578
Your tablet should have wireless charging, so maybe a slimport cable, wireless charger, and Bluetooth keyboard and mouse would work?
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Your tablet should have wireless charging, so maybe a slimport cable, wireless charger, and Bluetooth keyboard and mouse would work?
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Looks like I learned something today ! Didn't even know they made a dedicated dock for the Nexus 7 tablet ! looks this little device could actually help me solve my problem. I'll look into it in more depths.
I actually use wireless charging but can't actually put it on my current tablet stand (or else it looks messy as hell)
Thanks for the great tips !
Linus did a great "real-life" usage video for all the RoG Accessories, and I agree the Professional Dock is best of them all.
Just connect it to the wireless Keyboard Mouse Combo, and you are ready for some Hi-Speed Gaming...
ASUS ADSU001 Professional Dock
- Gigabit Ethernet
- Dual USB 3.1 Type A
- 4k HDMI
- USB 3.1 Type C
Also tested on my Razer Stealth without any issues
Just FYI, By design it seems like the HDMI Output only works via the "SidePorts", specifically the "BLACK" connector, or the one on the LEFT when the RoG Phone is held in landscape mode.
The SidePorts will contain Dual TypeC, they are colored LEFT=BLACK, and RIGHT= BRONZE, ONLY USE the LEFT one for Charging, and HDMI OUT. The RIGHT Port is mostly-Likely for AUDIO ONLY
Just referencing the AirCooler that comes with the phone, that's the same arrangement
i used some other brand but cant get the mapping to works.. can tell me what game u try shows the mapping
ZiCott said:
Just connect it to the wireless Keyboard Mouse Combo, and you are ready for some Hi-Speed Gaming...
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Is that all you did with it? Because trying to run a browser on a big screen with a screen mirror is terrible when you have the status bar that's like an inch tall, and then all the fonts are ridiculously sized way too big. Basically it's useless for email or browsing on a bigger screen since it doesn't work as a second screen but just a screen mirror.
Developer Options
SeanBlader said:
Is that all you did with it? Because trying to run a browser on a big screen with a screen mirror is terrible when you have the status bar that's like an inch tall, and then all the fonts are ridiculously sized way too big. Basically it's useless for email or browsing on a bigger screen since it doesn't work as a second screen but just a screen mirror.
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Dear Sean, I don't know which external monitor you are using, but I recommend you enable developer options on the device.
In developer options there is DRAWING, Simulate Secondary Display, and select the resolution your monitors supports. Let up know how that works out for you.
I have a Tablet, and a laptop for email, and web browsing. TBH...
In general I don't think Android was developed properly for the large screen size, and that's why it has never taken off. Samsung is trying with their DEX, but the RoG was designed for gaming on the large screen.
ASUS also offers the DESKTOP DOCK, maybe that will offer additional display options, but that was just out of my budget.
ZiCott
It's a 30 inch Dell 2k display, but I expect to plug it into any random 24inch display. There aren't really a lot of differences between the pro dock and the desktop dock, the desktop has a lot more ports and does enable a second screen experience but it's still a small screen android experience on a much larger screen, so about the same. I just decided to go the root route and get an actual Linux distro on with Linux Deploy. What it's doing, once I figured that out, is running a VM on the device and then you remote connect to with VNC from the device itself or any other device on the network. That's kinda nice because it means the VM is running in the background and you can still use the phone as is. It also means that running the RealVNC app on the device on a big screen is a lot more useful as an actual desktop environment. What it doesn't mean however is that you're running on the local Linux that actually operates the device, which may be for the better if you don't want to try running an actual desktop class window manager on Android's flavor of Linux. Good news is, it appears to operate really quickly, but I haven't yet tried to get a web development environment running on it, that's next.
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In developer options there is DRAWING, Simulate Secondary Display, and select the resolution your monitors supports. Let up know how that works out for you.
ZiCott
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Maybe I'm stupid and correct if I'm wrong but what exactly is that going to help with? It's not like I can just move over the simulated screen to the tv/monitor like you can do on a computer.
It just playing games on the larger screen, no need to tell me you're stupid, and you're not wrong. Merry Xmas
FYI I tried a 3rd party portable dock I had for my Switch and it worked (via side port) perfectly connected to my 55" 4K TV. I'm running Nova launcher and had no issues rotating my home screen to landscape. Saved myself about $100. Also had a $14 USB to LAN adapter connected. http://a.co/d/65jc58T http://a.co/d/bma6jOL
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It just playing games on the larger screen, no need to tell me you're stupid, and you're not wrong. Merry Xmas
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That does not need to be toggled on to play games or even to view the phone itself as it just mimics a secondary screen on the current screen only. Doesn't fix the resolution for viewing or playing either.
On a side note, for people that want to fix the giant resolution there is an app for that lol it's called secondscreen (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free)
You can change the resolution for a connected display and then revert back to the phone screen resolution when you disconnect, change the dpi to around 180 when your connected display is on also as there is a tablet like ui that looks better imo.
Will this accessory work with any usb-c phone?
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randaddy said:
FYI I tried a 3rd party portable dock I had for my Switch and it worked (via side port) perfectly connected to my 55" 4K TV. I'm running Nova launcher and had no issues rotating my home screen to landscape. Saved myself about $100. Also had a $14 USB to LAN adapter connected. http://a.co/d/65jc58T http://a.co/d/bma6jOL
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Thank you.
Let us know which phone you have...
dibt359 said:
Will this accessory work with any usb-c phone?
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Thank you.
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Mileage may vary, but I have tested with Razer Phone 1, Lenovo X1, and also with RazerBlade 13", and works fine
Question: Can you sign in using a password, using the dock. Like can you type your password in using a keyboard in mouse? My screen is broken and I'm trying to get into the device.
I know this isn't where questions go but, I think the website is bugged it won't let me create a new topic or anything because "I'm not signed in" then when I click to sign it it says I am.
ZiCott said:
hello, if I use another brand dock instead of Asus professional dock or desktop dock, will the keyboard and mouse still work for gaming because Asus products are no longer sold, I couldn't find it anywhere??????
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