MT8127 Seems to have capability for h265 decoding, but every h265 file I tried, HW decoding didn't work. Is there any way to get it to work?
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MT8127 Seems to have capability for h265 decoding, but every h265 file I tried, HW decoding didn't work. Is there any way to get it to work?
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what rom are you on?
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what rom are you on?
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FireOS 5.1.1.
Why? is it enabled on any other rom?
Any ideas?
Oddly I can get HW playback on sample video files without any audio in mx player but the ones with audio knock it dead.
Which files did you try? I tested the 5mb file from here both with and without audio, and mx player pro 1.8.1 reverts to SW on both.
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Which files did you try? I tested the 5mb file from here both with and without audio, and mx player pro 1.8.1 reverts to SW on both.
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Hang on, I meant to leave that window open in case asked, but closed it.
Hmm I do note that the page mentions x265 now though properties in mx player didn't show that, only noticed the HEVC before. So might well be my mistake there.
https://x265.com/hevc-video-files/
How did you make it play without audio as don't see any audio free files there?
I used mkvmerge to remove the audio track.
I did some testing.
Turns out it can HW decode h265 but it's buggy.
First I tried encoding to h265 with handbrake and it worked, but only in mp4/m4v. If I encoded in mkv container it fell back to SW. so that's pretty weird, container having that much impact.
After this I decided to move streams from downloaded 720p h265 mkv file to mp4 without touching the streams themselves. Extracted them with mkvextract, and put them in mp4 with mp4box. (file contained hevc video, aac audio and srt subtitles).
I tried playing it with mx player and voila, video played with HW, but now audio didn't work. I turned audio decoding to SW and that fixed it. BUT now seeking the video put decoding back to SW. I decided no big deal, and tried the same trick with 1080p hevc. but it just didn't play with HW, then I tried the previous file again and it too didn't work. And I haven't been able to play it with HW decoding since then. Not in MX and not in stock player.
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I did some testing.
Turns out it can HW decode h265 but it's buggy.
...then I tried the previous file again and it too didn't work. And I haven't been able to play it with HW decoding since then. Not in MX and not in stock player.
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That is decidedly odd.
Update from SlimLP rom.
Every 720p hevc file works with HW decoding, audio and video, regardless of container!!!
One 1080p file I tried went to SW decoding and said HW wasn't supported.
Other 1080p files loaded with HW without any warnings, audio played well but video was black. This turned out to be part of an issue of only playing a few frames than freezing at that frame, when you rewind the video you can see it more clearly.
I tried MX player 1.80 Nightly and Stock player, same results. HW+ decoding doesn't work but I think that's MX player's issue.
I think this is great news. The problems seem to be mostly software related and this gives me hope that maybe 1080p will also be fixed in the future.
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OK, I've read every thread I can find on XDA on the subject, and it appears that the LG phones have a GPU-optimized video player, but otherwise there is nothing out there that really takes advantage of the Tegra 2 for playback of MKV files. Is that correct?
Most of my files are 720 or 1080 MKV with embedded subtitles. So far the best response I have gotten has been from QQplayer. I tried Moboplayer with the ARM7 codec it sends you to, but could never convince it to show the subtitles.
So what are YOU using to play such files (if anything)? Please also share your settings in case the problem is user error at my end
TIA!
I use PLEX to stream my 720p and 1080p mkv files.
If I need to stored the files on the xoom, i normally convert them to mp4 format using HandBrake.
i havent found a good mkv player for the xoom yet.. i am a VLC kinda guy on my PC and i havent found anything that compares to it...
I use xilisoft ultimate to convert to mp4 for native playback on the xoom
If you haven't bought Plex you have no idea what its like to play MKVs on your device
Plex provides better quality and performance than any other app.
I use Plex but the quality is not the same as if I play the same video (4GB 720p MKV) on the PC.
But one thing is sure, gets the job DONE.
My comments on plex WRT the ASUS transformer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13480404&highlight=plex#post13480404
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13712848&highlight=plex#post13712848
I have found that 3.1 actually does contain enough matroska container parsing (Probably due to WebM) to play any MKV files that would normally play when re-muxed to MP4 however the mimetype and file extension don't appear to be plumbed in. So as long as the audio is AAC or MP3, the video is h.264 and the bitrate/profile/resolution is ok to play then simply renaming the file to add on .mp4 (so the native video player doesn't object to the filename) then launching the video file from a file manager and just choosing "Video player" plays just fine.
Plex is a streamer, we need a local player that's better then Mobo or Rockplayer.
Plex is awesome, but it still won't the display .srt subtitles. I've tried RockPlayer, but it won't play everything.
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I have found that 3.1 actually does contain enough matroska container parsing (Probably due to WebM) to play any MKV files that would normally play when re-muxed to MP4 however the mimetype and file extension don't appear to be plumbed in. So as long as the audio is AAC or MP3, the video is h.264 and the bitrate/profile/resolution is ok to play then simply renaming the file to add on .mp4 (so the native video player doesn't object to the filename) then launching the video file from a file manager and just choosing "Video player" plays just fine.
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I tried this in 3.01 and it didn't work but I'll give it a go on 3.1. If this works...!!
I started with rockplayer but then I moved to Vplayer.
Vplayer is awesome all the mkv files with subtitles that rockplayer couldn't handle, vplayer played it like a champ.
Plus i use remote potato to stream my stuff from my home PC and vplayer has been the only player to handle the task.
I still do Moboplayer it works for everything I need. When the MKV files I have don't show the subs I back out and long hold on the file and select Soft Decode which always kicks the subs in for me. Try that and see if it works for you.
Is my Xoom the only one that stutters when it's playing 720P movie on either MoboPlayer or RockPlayer?
I have not found any player that can play mkv file perfectly!
Yesterday, i tested with 1 mkv file, 720p, ac3 audio, size=1.5 Gb, both rockplayer and moboplayer could play that movie very smooth and showed subtitle correctly, but there was no sound!
When i switched to "software decode" mode, sound was fine, but video was very laggy!
Unfortunately none of the players allow mixed mode rendering, as hardware for the video is a go, but there is no hardware (or OS level) support for AC3 audio. Honestly, Android still has a ways to go as far as video codec and container support is concerned.
Just got a Xoom yesterday and have tried about 10 different players...
BS Player was the ONLY one that worked well.
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Just got a Xoom yesterday and have tried about 10 different players...
BS Player was the ONLY one that worked well.
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On my G2x, also Tegra 2, I use MX Video player, and the codex required for ARMv7
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Old ass thread, but use DICE Player. You'll thank me later.
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Old ass thread, but use DICE Player. You'll thank me later.
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+1 DicePlayer is awesome and it supports HW Acceleration
Nobody uses MX Video Player? Found it last year when I wanted to play some anime on my Evo 3D, worked like a charm, and has a separate plugin for device-specific support. Works flawlessly using software decoding, only played 480p videos so far though, supposedly works perfectly using hardware decoding on 720/1080 videos, somebody give it a shot and lemme know
I use Mx Video Player its got best interface and plays most videos and h/w support for 720p videos 1080 is pushing to the limits for Xoom.
Im using the stock rom but i cant play mkv files with any video player wtf? None of the players can see the mkv files only my 3gp and mp4 files show up.
your point being????????
Maybe he means "can't" ?
Yes i meant cant.
try this, you will need somthing like root explorer to put it in system/app if it doesn't install automatically.
it's the newest one pulled from Gr2, and it defo works because I have recently watched the Khan fight which was in .MKV 720p
Tried this in CM7 and it do work indeed
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try this, you will need somthing like root explorer to put it in system/app if it doesn't install automatically.
it's the newest one pulled from Gr2, and it defo works because I have recently watched the Khan fight which was in .MKV 720p
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why can't i get it to work, or push it with root explorer, its install fine but i can't see the videoplayer ?
Actually I cant see the videoplayer too but the codecs there so I just use the other videoplayers.
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This thread is not informative enough: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183398 ?
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try this, you will need somthing like root explorer to put it in system/app if it doesn't install automatically.
it's the newest one pulled from Gr2, and it defo works because I have recently watched the Khan fight which was in .MKV 720p
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Wont allow me to install it.
The issue here is not the video player application, but the codecs installed on the device. Are you sure you're using the latest rom?
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Tried this in CM7 and it do work indeed
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What? 720p mkv works on CM? When and how did that happen?
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The issue here is not the video player application, but the codecs installed on the device. Are you sure you're using the latest rom?
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Im using the latest stock rom yes.
Well, to be honest, most mkvs don't play well at all on lateststock rom, you need gingerbread for that. Those with header compression/header stripping enabled don't play at all, you can check this using for example mediainfo ( http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net ), and even those without it usually lag horribly and/or crash the media player for me. So you're not missing a working feature.
Ok now iv got a 720p mkv video running using mx videoplayers, runs pretty well both sound and video, some very very minor video distrotion on occasion but nothing serious, stock video player says unknown video format or something.
I thought the lg video player was supposed to support mkv natively.
it does support it natively. but as stagefright is enabled by default, mkv playback is broken. disabling it allowed me to play mkv's on stock player. i had to put the following strings in my o2x's build.prop to make it work.
media.stagefright.enable-player=false
media.stagefright.enable-meta=false
media.stagefright.enable-scan=false
media.stagefright.enable-http=true
media.stagefright.enable-rtsp=false
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Wont allow me to install it.
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make sure you are rooted and unknown sources enabled
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it does support it natively. but as stagefright is enabled by default, mkv playback is broken. disabling it allowed me to play mkv's on stock player. i had to put the following strings in my o2x's build.prop to make it work.
media.stagefright.enable-player=false
media.stagefright.enable-meta=false
media.stagefright.enable-scan=false
media.stagefright.enable-http=true
media.stagefright.enable-rtsp=false
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Really? Because mine plays mkvs (rather poorly) without any modifications to anything, I'll try this later and see if there is a difference!
Lets clear up a few things here
support for the mkv containter are fully supported by the native LG mediaplayer in the latest firmware (v10c/d), but not in the previous firmwares.
If one has the latest firmware, then nothing needs to be done to enable mkv playback.
If the native LG mediaplayer do not show mkv files in the media list at all, then one does not have the latest firmware !
If the native LG mediaplayer do show the mkv files in the media list, but complain when trying to play the files, then the mkv files contain some video or audio format which is not supported. For instance are DTS audio not supported, thus trying to play an mkv with a DTS audio track will not work. Propably AC3/DD are not supported either, or flac. An mkv can also contain a non supported videoformat. In other words, if the files do not show then its wrong firmware, if they do show but dont play, then its not because mkv are not supported but because some video or audiotrack inside the mkv are not supported.
support for mkv are not a codec question, since mkv are just a container and not a video format. Codecs are used to decode video (and audio) formats. Parsing containers like mkv are just a matter of having a parsing filter and support for the extension .mkv in the media build properties. Codecs are used to decode the video and audio formats inside the container after the parsing filter has parsed the container and send the video and audioformats to the decoders.
The typical videoformat inside mkv are h264/mpeg-4 (but can be many other formats also), this format has allways been supported on all firmwares but only inside mp4 containers up untill the latest firmware, the only thing new in the latest firmware in this regard, are the addition of a parsing filter for the mkv container.
For best playback of mkv (and the h264 video inside) only the native mediaplayer should be used, because the hardware acceleration from the Tegra chip is needed and most third party media players do not have full access to this hardware acceleration Instead they use software decoders which are not as effective. A few third party media players do have hardware acceleration, but they dont offer any better playback than the default LG mediaplayer because when hardware acceleration is used then it makes no difference which media player interface is used to call it. The playback quality will be identical, therefore there are no point in using third party mediaplayers except for playing other types of videofiles which the native mediaplayer do not support at all, but may be supported by the software decoders in the third party player. But for supported files the default LG player will play as good or better as third party players.
If playback of an mkv containing a typical h264/mpeg-4 videotrack plays poorly, with video distortion/pixelation or other problems, then its because the video has been encoded with to high encoding levels. Most pirated 720p/1080p rips in mkv that people download from the internet are encoded using higher encoding levels than what is supported by the Tegra chip - typically they are encoded in profile level [email protected] and the Tegra chip only support up to [email protected] for 1080p and possibly [email protected] for 720p
If playback are poor because of to high encoding profiles have been used, or the mkv contain some non supported video/audiotrack, then the only sollution are a reencoding of video and/or audiotrack to a supported format using a supported encoding profile setting.
read more on h264 and encoding profiles here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
and use media info to get information about your mkv files regarding video and audio formats inside, and which encoding profile has been used to encode video with
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/
Thanks for the informative post spawndk!
Hi all
SGS IV looks like complete s*it. So now the only thing that stops me from buying HTC One this year is format support. Heard that it can't hardware decode mkv, is it true? I dodn't mean out of the box but any player like MX or BS. They both have hardware+ decoders that may somehow help with mkv.
MKV is not a video format but a container so I guess it depends on what type of format it was encoded.
Regarding full video formats supported HTC said it is
3gp, 3gpp, 3gp2, mp4, avi(dix, vidx), h264, webm & WMV
I know mkv is a container, but h.264 video decoding is implemented in many previous htc flagship chipsets (e.g. in HTS One X), though mkv can't be hardware decoded on these devices even with 3rd party players (judjing by responses on One X). The same in apple devices. There are no apps that could simply on the fly demux mkv and hardware decode h.264 video stream. Are there anybody who already owes the device and could run the test with any 1080p rip or beter BD remux in mkv?
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I know mkv is a container, but h.264 video decoding is implemented in many previous htc flagship chipsets (e.g. in HTS One X), though mkv can't be hardware decoded on these devices even with 3rd party players (judjing by responses on One X). The same in apple devices. There are no apps that could simply on the fly demux mkv and hardware decode h.264 video stream. Are there anybody who already owes the device and could run the test with any 1080p rip or beter BD remux in mkv?
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sorry I would like to revise my previous statement it doesn't support xvid, divx And yeah doesn't also support MKV. But Xperia Z does.
My stock video player won't play .mkv files correctly (no sound), nor will DicePlayer which I'm very surprised about.
MX Player works perfectly - in the Settings I have the video set to H/W and the audio set to S/W - and now my 720p .mkv files run buttery smooth and are pin sharp.
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My stock video player won't play .mkv files correctly (no sound), nor will DicePlayer which I'm very surprised about.
MX Player works perfectly - in the Settings I have the video set to H/W and the audio set to S/W - and now my 720p .mkv files run buttery smooth and are pin sharp.
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Great then... nothing to worry about
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Great then... nothing to worry about
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Well yes, that I figured out as well, that MKV, and AVI (divx-xvid) is not supported, but only those which are encoded with AC3
Because of this, some youtube videos are not played, or sorry..played but without any sound....furthermore, when I try to stream anything via DLNA (samsung allshare runs on the pc and or Router) then I cannot watch them...its kinda annoying....
do you have any solution for this? like installing codecs?
Thanks ...only because of this I would not choose the galaxy s4...and I dont want to convert any video I have...
Thanks !
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Well yes, that I figured out as well, that MKV, and AVI (divx-xvid) is not supported, but only those which are encoded with AC3
Because of this, some youtube videos are not played, or sorry..played but without any sound....furthermore, when I try to stream anything via DLNA (samsung allshare runs on the pc and or Router) then I cannot watch them...its kinda annoying....
do you have any solution for this? like installing codecs?
Thanks ...only because of this I would not choose the galaxy s4...and I dont want to convert any video I have...
Thanks !
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I know that MX Player supports some additional codecs
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I know that MX Player supports some additional codecs
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Sure, I found out as well, but my main problem is:
When I am trying to play video on my HTC ONE using DLNA (which is hosted, operated on my PC) the videos which are using or coded with AC3
audio, they...just won't play....
As far as I know mxplayer does not have DLNA support....but correct me if I am wrong... and also what would you do with the youtube videos ?#
After contacting HTC, they just told me sorry these formats are not supported.... I hope it will be only a matter of an update...cause its kinda annoying that you can put any files on a galaxy s4 or galaxy s3...and just play it with the default app...
A little update on this... I manage to make an mkv movie play on the stock player. However the audio codec is not supported. So I think MKV is supported. DivX and Xvid are the only codecs that's not working.
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A little update on this... I manage to make an mkv movie play on the stock player. However the audio codec is not supported. So I think MKV is supported. DivX and Xvid are the only codecs that's not working.
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well playing mkv, or avi is not an issue, but it plays without sound (due to the missing AC3) codec, mxplayer must be installed and its good to gooo with hw+ and its perfect, I even found a solution for the DLNA thingy.
Now I just need to get use to the camera, which is perfect on the display, but less perfect on the pc
tried to play mp4 video with MX player
HW+ / HW decode failed..... but SW decode succeeded
is nook hd+ not support HW decode ??
thanks
It does support HW and HW+ decoding, I've used it to play a number of h264 encoded videos.
Your issue may have to do with which h264 profile the video was encoded with. I know for a fact that it will fail to play 10-bit videos in HW/HW+ mode.
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It does support HW and HW+ decoding, I've used it to play a number of h264 encoded videos.
Your issue may have to do with which h264 profile the video was encoded with. I know for a fact that it will fail to play 10-bit videos in HW/HW+ mode.
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that's mean not support mp4 video ?
I'd also recommend installing the MX Player ARMv7 NEON codec from google play store. I'm pretty sure that that one applies to the graphics chipset in the Nook HD+. all the mp4 videos I've tried playing worked in H/W+ mode.
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personally i dont care for mp4 but have tried huge 1080p mkv's and all play without a hitch (streamed from home network pc I might add)
So, I have a problem with my Remix Mini (it's the whole reason why I even made an account).
My Mini can play most HEVC files, but there are a few that (depending on the player) either won't play or stutter really bad.
If it's any help, most of the files start with the letter G (which is probably just a coincidence, but still...), at least one of them is 10 bit, and one of them has an Opus audio codec.
Most of them were downloaded from the same site (but possibly different encoders).
I've tried tweaking around with Kodi, MX Player, and VLC Android (both versions, the beta version plays any video too quickly).
Any suggestions?
Anyone?
try neon codec pack for MX Player
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try neon codec pack for MX Player
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Will do, thx!
Didn't work! Please help!
For some files I've been able to use MX Player and make it work by switching to HW Decoder... However for these certain videos HW Decoder won't work and you can't even select HW+. When I choose HW Decoder it just says, "HW decoder is not supported".