Is a 2nd Bootloader possible? - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

With the Kindle Fire 8.9" 2012 device name Jem, they had to use a second bootloader to get around amazon's locked off one. Has a second bootloader been pursued for this tablet yet?
And now that I have root how do I move my google now launcher to the system folder?

CynicalErmine said:
With the Kindle Fire 8.9" 2012 device name Jem, they had to use a second bootloader to get around amazon's locked off one. Has a second bootloader been pursued for this tablet yet?
And now that I have root how do I move my google now launcher to the system folder?
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I am not experienced with that yet, so I cannot answer your second question, but as far as the second bootloader goes, I have not heard anyone mention that yet... Currently people are talking about using flashfire, so if that doesn't work, I am sure some devs will start pursuing this new direction. Thanks for the idea!

Search the forum for safestrap. There's been lots of discussion on the subject. In short, it depends on working kexec, which we do not have yet although progress has been made.

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[Q] new rooting ideas and unlocking kfhd bootloader

has anyone got an idea when there will be an exploit to unlocking kindles bootloader.
and maybe getting an kfu update to install fire fire fire and twrp.
thanks
Safestrap
Keir1992 said:
has anyone got an idea when there will be an exploit to unlocking kindles bootloader.
and maybe getting an kfu update to install fire fire fire and twrp.
thanks
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I suspect we are about 6 to 8 months away from seeing custom ROM's (if we use the past as an example). The utilities you mention FFF and TWRP were designed around a completely different bootloader - Kindle Fire (Original). There is a group working on a new Bootloader named "Safestrap" but the project is on "Hold" at the moment: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965045
What we can do until that time is Root the Kindle, install Google Play and an assortment of Google Applications. You can also give your Kindle a facelift by installing a new Launcher like Go Launcher: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1915493
Enjoy.

[Q] Kindle Fire HD 2013 Version Bricked - Need Help

Hey, I recently rooted my Kindle Fire HD and everything was working great, until I installed an Xposed tweak that caused my Kindle to start boot looping and then thereafter I went ahead and screwed it up even worse - by messing with various fastboot methods to get it working again. Yeah... I should have just left it as it was, I know...
I've read about how there are signature checks whenever the Kindle boots up which I'm assuming I don't have anymore. So, I'm curious if there is anyway to come back from this? From what I've read, if I had backed up the partitions, technically I should have been able to restore them - but unfortunately here we are.
I've also downloaded the latest update from Amazon 'update-kindle-11.3.1.0_user_310084920' and after converting it to a zip file, there is a 'boot.img' and a 'recovery.img' which I would assume would have the signatures already within them, but no system.img. Is there anyway for someone to create an exact backup of that file, or is that not possible right now without a second bootloader?
I'm honestly really unsure of what to do here, I've tried a myriad of different approaches and still it looks like this is a bad brick... However I do hope someone out there has a solution, I'd love to get this device working again.
Oh and what happens whenever I start it up, is that I just get the Amazon Kindle Fire Logo (Pure White), without any changes. It doesn't turn gold with the animation or anything.
Hyperiunn said:
Hey, I recently rooted my Kindle Fire HD and everything was working great, until I installed an Xposed tweak that caused my Kindle to start boot looping and then thereafter I went ahead and screwed it up even worse - by messing with various fastboot methods to get it working again. Yeah... I should have just left it as it was, I know...
I've read about how there are signature checks whenever the Kindle boots up which I'm assuming I don't have anymore. So, I'm curious if there is anyway to come back from this? From what I've read, if I had backed up the partitions, technically I should have been able to restore them - but unfortunately here we are.
I've also downloaded the latest update from Amazon 'update-kindle-11.3.1.0_user_310084920' and after converting it to a zip file, there is a 'boot.img' and a 'recovery.img' which I would assume would have the signatures already within them, but no system.img. Is there anyway for someone to create an exact backup of that file, or is that not possible right now without a second bootloader?
I'm honestly really unsure of what to do here, I've tried a myriad of different approaches and still it looks like this is a bad brick... However I do hope someone out there has a solution, I'd love to get this device working again.
Oh and what happens whenever I start it up, is that I just get the Amazon Kindle Fire Logo (Pure White), without any changes. It doesn't turn gold with the animation or anything.
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The 2013 Kindle Fire HD is not setup for Xposed yet. There is no bootloader access yet therefore there is no way to recover yet. You have two options at this point. Wait until there is a bootloader exploit or contact Amazon for an exchange.
The only things available are root, remove OTA updates and remove lock screen ads. Even Google Play is only for window shopping at the moment.
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LinearEquation said:
The 2013 Kindle Fire HD is not setup for Xposed yet. There is no bootloader access yet therefore there is no way to recover yet. You have two options at this point. Wait until there is a bootloader exploit or contact Amazon for an exchange.
The only things available are root, remove OTA updates and remove lock screen ads. Even Google Play is only for window shopping at the moment.
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For anyone wondering, xposed actually works perfectly with a good number of modules, but don't install Xthemeengine, that'll cause the bootloop.
Fastboot
As long as you can boot into fastboot-mode nothing is lost. (if you can't -> buy a fastboot-cable. it is much cheaper than a new Kindle. They cost about 15$).
I used this useful tool. It just flashes the old system, boot and recovery on your Kindle. (all files are included in the downloadable zip file).
This tool was very useful for me and saved my Kindle very often (I am a real flashoholic...). Maybe there is something like this for the new 2013 KFHD too?
Gamingmayr said:
As long as you can boot into fastboot-mode nothing is lost. (if you can't -> buy a fastboot-cable. it is much cheaper than a new Kindle. They cost about 15$).
I used this useful tool. It just flashes the old system, boot and recovery on your Kindle. (all files are included in the downloadable zip file).
This tool was very useful for me and saved my Kindle very often (I am a real flashoholic...). Maybe there is something like this for the new 2013 KFHD too?
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Nah nothing so far for the 2013 unfortunately. I don't think there's been much interest in this model as of yet.
Hyperiunn said:
Nah nothing so far for the 2013 unfortunately. I don't think there's been much interest in this model as of yet.
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I've been interested. Unfortunately, my mother won't let me touch her new 2013 Fire HD. Still, if you can find someone who's rooted and not bricked, maybe they could backup their boot, system, and recovery .imgs for you and post them for you. And since they're already rooted, you would be too (someone correct me if I'm wrong). If I could get a temporary root or find a way to remove root later I would back them up for you.
The system restore tool for the 2012 Fire HD flashes the boot, recovery, and system partitions. Theoretically, the same tool would work, but only if you replaced the .img files with the ones for the 2013 Fire HD.
Gamingmayr said:
As long as you can boot into fastboot-mode nothing is lost. (if you can't -> buy a fastboot-cable. it is much cheaper than a new Kindle. They cost about 15$).
I used this useful tool. It just flashes the old system, boot and recovery on your Kindle. (all files are included in the downloadable zip file).
This tool was very useful for me and saved my Kindle very often (I am a real flashoholic...). Maybe there is something like this for the new 2013 KFHD too?
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There is no confirmation that a fastboot cord even works with the 2013 model nor are the stock images available yet. The 2012 KFHD and the 2013 KFHD do not use the same images.
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Hyperiunn said:
For anyone wondering, xposed actually works perfectly with a good number of modules, but don't install Xthemeengine, that'll cause the bootloop.
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It won't work on the 2013 Kindle fire HD yet though. Since that is the topic here I guess that narrows it down to this tablet not all the others don't it.
Fastboot cable works just fine with the one I have.

[Q] Kindle Fire HD 2013 root

hi guys, I live in Cuba and just received a kindle fire HD 2013 as a gift. Access to information about the kindle is very difficult here. could anyone please tell me if there is anyway to root the device and install android 4.2.2? What little number of posts I have managed to open tell me it's not possible yet. is this true? any help would be appreciated. thanks!
Root is possible, flashing other ROMs is not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544736
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stunts513 said:
Root is possible, flashing other ROMs is not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544736
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Hi.
I've followed this method down to the letter and still no root. Any ideas?
I test it by trying to edit the hosts file to prevent auto updating to no avail. I've also tried some other root functions in ES File Explorer and they have not worked.
Also, in your opinion will flashing other ROMs be possible in the future or is it unlikely? I'm just wondering whether I should check back every so often or should I not bother?
Thanks,
K
I seriously doubt we are going to unlock the bootloader, it just doesn't seek worth it on this particular device because we have 3 or 4 other model kindles already available to flash and they technically have better features on them like HDMI and a camera, so I would think someone would be more intersected in the HDX's if anything, and who knows an exploit on them might work with the bootloader on the 2013, but no guarantees on that as the CPU and hardware is different so I'm assuming the bootloader quite different.
As to your problem with rooting, give me some feedback or a log of the terminal output so I have an idea of what happened, I don't have a 2013 model so I have never attempted its rooting process, but I can probably help with errors. Oh and for the record, on a command print you can right click in the window, hit mark, highlight as much of the text as you want, hit enter and it copies it to the clipboard so you can paste it into code brackets here. Most people don't see. To know this for some reason and just screenshot the command prompt... Seems kinda basic that any windows app has basic copy and paste functionality in it. Lemme end this post before I start ranting about how Linux has even better copy and paste support.
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hey, did you root your kindle? if you do , please let me know

Kindle Fire 2 Root or sideload questions (noob)

This thread appears to be vacant for a while so I thought I would ask directly. I inherited my wife's old Kindle yesterday and I hate the interface. I don't want to brick it but it wouldn't break my heart. I am not an IT guy but I understand the general concepts. I have seen some videos on Youtube with what appears to be, almost too easy, instructions on how to root directly from the Kindle.
I could deal if I just got GoLauncher, Google Play and some of the apps I commonly use on my Android phone but a recent installation of 1Market or Market1 proved an act in futility (Google won't work with my OS, can only find China GoLauncher) I searched my phone for apks but assume I need more apps or instruction.
So, I am asking if I should root - which rooting process should I use and if I do - where do you get Jellybean, KitKat, etc and can you get Marshmallow?
Kindle Fire 7, 2nd Gen (2012) with 7.5.1 update
Disregard, I rooted the Kindle last night
Drummerskey said:
This thread appears to be vacant for a while so I thought I would ask directly. I inherited my wife's old Kindle yesterday and I hate the interface. I don't want to brick it but...............................
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However, as a noob. What can I do with it now? I plan to download a new OS but are there tips are tricks with a rooted Kindle?
Drummerskey said:
However, as a noob. What can I do with it now? I plan to download a new OS but are there tips are tricks with a rooted Kindle?
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If there are tips and tricks for certain roms, the op will usually post them in the thread, just read carefully and read it again.

Help unrooting kindle fire

I have a kindle fire that used to belong to my brother and he had it rooted. I did a factory reset and upon registering the kindle it throws me into a language selection loop. I can still manage to get into apps, settings, etc.. if I click fast enough before the language selection pops up again. I'm assuming this is happening because it is rooted and I deleted files that were needed with the factory reset. I believe it's a 3rd gen kindle but I don't know how to be sure. Current version is 13.3.2.3.2_user_323001720 Build date Sunday, June 1, 2014. I prefer it to be unrooted for a fresh start but if it's easier to get past that error loop I'll take it. Can anyone help me with this please?
prisonmike1021 said:
I have a kindle fire that used to belong to my brother and he had it rooted. I did a factory reset and upon registering the kindle it throws me into a language selection loop. I can still manage to get into apps, settings, etc.. if I click fast enough before the language selection pops up again. I'm assuming this is happening because it is rooted and I deleted files that were needed with the factory reset. I believe it's a 3rd gen kindle but I don't know how to be sure. Current version is 13.3.2.3.2_user_323001720 Build date Sunday, June 1, 2014. I prefer it to be unrooted for a fresh start but if it's easier to get past that error loop I'll take it. Can anyone help me with this please?
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Sounds like you may have a 3rd gen HDX. You'll need to identify the exact model as recovery procedures differ among the various fire devices.
Bumping this to see if I can get any help on it. I have decided to try again after finding my tablet. The tablet is a Kindle Fire HDX 7 3rd gen. After researching for a while I found out my brother rooted it using SuperSU as there's an su file under system/xbin (my brother doesn't remember anything) but no SuperSU app installed due to the factory reset. I was able to solve the language selection loop error but now I'm stuck on what to do next. Some apps work some don't. I just want to be able to use newer apps/games. Would you guys recommend trying to unroot or can I update current root to something not stuck in a 2014 update?
prisonmike1021 said:
Bumping this to see if I can get any help on it. I have decided to try again after finding my tablet. The tablet is a Kindle Fire HDX 7 3rd gen. After researching for a while I found out my brother rooted it using SuperSU as there's an su file under system/xbin (my brother doesn't remember anything) but no SuperSU app installed due to the factory reset. I was able to solve the language selection loop error but now I'm stuck on what to do next. Some apps work some don't. I just want to be able to use newer apps/games. Would you guys recommend trying to unroot or can I update current root to something not stuck in a 2014 update?
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I would suggest go to amazon and download the full update. Also there is a hdx thread that might be more relevant. I do not have one of these devices and this thread is for the fire 7. See the next post...
Thanks @DB126
Here is a link to the amazon files
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G2JXLC4L34GX73TE
Here is a link the the HDX thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/orig-development
Michajin said:
I would suggest go to amazon and download the full update. Install the update. Also there is a hdx thread that might be more relevant. I do not have one of these devices and this thread is for the fire 7. ADB sideload should do the trick to get back to stock if you do not know what has been done to it.
Here is a link to the amazon files
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G2JXLC4L34GX73TE
Here is a link the the HDX thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/orig-development
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Reloading FireOS (any build) is not an option on unrooted HDX device. Also rather dangerous without an understanding of compatible versions; a difficult to correct brick can easily result. Re-ask your question in the HDX help thread; someone (most likely me) will respond. You'll need to do a fair bit of work to restore that device including unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom ROM. Not for the faint of heart.
Thank you guys!

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