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[Android 2.2+] Multi Toggle Widget

Dear users,
Considering all 3C apps are now based on the same source code, they all behave the same way, and will exhibit the same issues. Any queries will also likely applies to all apps.
To make my life easier while continuing to provide support here (and start with a clean slate), I decided to close all my app threads and open a fresh new thread here.
With your continuous help and support, the past 4 years have been a great adventure and experience. Let's take a fresh start and continue this amazing adventure.
Thank you all!

Hi,
I bought this app and gave it a try since it is the only one I found with REAL background data management capabilities. So, this is a great beginning, although the app is not completely useful to me. I was looking for an automatic background data toggle following WiFi status, I mean, turn on bg data when WiFi is on and turn it off at WiFi shutdown. I know this is just a manual toggle, but I was wondering if I can use the toggle along with any profiler (like Tasker, Setting Profiles, etc). This way, I could set up a rule that triggers on WiFi On/Off and changes bg data status using your widget. Unfortunately, this cannot be done as there is no 'activity' to be associated to under Multi Toggle activities node. So, my suggestion is that you expose any public activity to toggle bg data, so it can be used when setting up rules from any profiler. Of course you can also develop an app to auto turn on/off bg data on wifi on/off... ... a lot of people is waiting for that since bg data has sense when wifi is on in most of the cases. Otherwise, it will drain battery.
Another suggestion, please make an easy way to uninstall when installed as system app (restore to user app or something... just to avoid a manual removal from /system/app).
Thanks!

torete43 said:
Hi,
I was looking for an automatic background data toggle following WiFi status, I mean, turn on bg data when WiFi is on and turn it off at WiFi shutdown. I know this is just a manual toggle, but I was wondering if I can use the toggle along with any profiler (like Tasker, Setting Profiles, etc).
Another suggestion, please make an easy way to uninstall when installed as system app (restore to user app or something... just to avoid a manual removal from /system/app).
Thanks!
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Thanks for your comment and support.
I will try to add an 'uninstall' procedure... Indeed it will make it much easier for me too
For the public activity, I will see to it too, though I'm not sure it's really recommended, the power-widget has been doing that until 2.3.3 and it was reported as a security hole... Would be nice though.
Just wondering something about activities, in Tasker (or similar app) can you manually specify the package, the class and the parameters? If so, even if it's not public, you might be able to do it!
Don't have the info at hand, but will update this post asap.

I haven't downloaded this app yet, but I found it because it claims to control the background data toggle via a widget. Just to confirm that we're talking about "background data" and not just "auto-sync," correct? On my DROID 2 this option is: settings -> data manager -> data delivery -> Background data.
Any updates on reverting from the system application install? I need to be able to return this phone to pre-root status.
I've found that "auto-sync" only applies to google accounts: gmail, gmail contacts and google calendar on the DROID 2. My primary email is an IMAP account and I'd prefer not to receive these notifications (and ones from other aps) during the evening hours.
My phone also likes to stop syncing randomly, and toggling background data corrects the problem. Going through the maze of settings is just too annoying to be toggling this option on a regular basis.

Also, this thread belongs in the Paid Software Announcement and Discussion forums. By posting here you are gaining an unfair advantage!

_alphaBeta_ said:
I haven't downloaded this app yet, but I found it because it claims to control the background data toggle via a widget. Just to confirm that we're talking about "background data" and not just "auto-sync," correct? On my DROID 2 this option is: settings -> data manager -> data delivery -> Background data.
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Hello and thanks for your interest in this app.
Yes it indeed controls background data, you should see the corresponding setting being actually changed!
And yes it needs to be installed as system app for a number of toggles to work, which is only possible on rooted phones, which luckily is your case! System apps have more rights than user-apps and a number of settings cannot be changed by user apps at all no matter what! Even using su/root feature can't help!
Note that the app will do it for you from the settings. There is no automatic way to move the app back to a user app, yet.
What you can do is try the app for a few minutes to see if it works well for you. Should you have any issues don't hesitate to contact me. You have 15 minutes to try it or get an immediate refund from Google, but I can still cancel the order at any time which will get you a full refund.
PS: I noticed 2 behaviors when installing as system app, either the settings window disappears, then no reboot is necessary, the app is installed in system folder and ready for use. Or the app says it succeeded (or failed) and the settings windows remains open. In this case I noticed it's always installed as system app, but it requires rebooting the phone. Still working on that.

ftgg99 said:
Also, this thread belongs in the Paid Software Announcement and Discussion forums. By posting here you are gaining an unfair advantage!
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I didn't know about this forum I'm very sorry for this mistake! Any ways to move the thread there?
At the time of creation, I tried contacting a moderator, but not sure it's my browser/computer (tried with Chrome and IE) but could reach the page to find who's moderator.
Anyway, no excuses, will try to contact a moderator asap.

I tried to quickly change my original post thinking that you wouldn't respond so quickly. I spotted the screenshots that clearly show the option to install as a system app, which answered my question.
ccounotte said:
Note that the app will do it for you from the settings. There is no automatic way to move the app back to a user app, yet.
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Any idea when you will implement this? As my edited message above now says, I need the ability to return this phone to pre-root status. How difficult is manually uninstalling a system app like yours? Pardon my ignorance, but I'm only rooted for a specific un-related reason, so I haven't played around in the rooted world much.

_alphaBeta_ said:
IAny idea when you will implement this? As my edited message above now says, I need the ability to return this phone to pre-root status. How difficult is manually uninstalling a system app like yours? Pardon my ignorance, but I'm only rooted for a specific un-related reason, so I haven't played around in the rooted world much.
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You know what? Just published an update that will do it!
Note it will require a reboot and all existing widgets must be replaced after!
Can you please report how it works for you?
Thanks!

ccounotte said:
Can you please report how it works for you?
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Hi,
Gave it a whirl and it seemed to work. Unfortunately, I tried your new "uninstall from system" options and it wound up uninstalling the entire application from my DROID 2. I'll get it back on there when I have some more time to play with it. Just be aware that it does a little more than uninstalling from system.
Is this greyed out heading "(System) Toggles" supposed to stay greyed out once it's installed as a system application? The only indication that a system install was in effect was that the option to install as a system application now said uninstall.
You may want to leave some time for a user to grant su permissions when installing as a system application. I've seen this on other apps. It took a couple tries to be quick enough to allow your app permissions before it reported that it didn't have them.

_alphaBeta_ said:
Hi,
Gave it a whirl and it seemed to work. Unfortunately, I tried your new "uninstall from system" options and it wound up uninstalling the entire application from my DROID 2. I'll get it back on there when I have some more time to play with it. Just be aware that it does a little more than uninstalling from system.
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Well, that's why I initially left this out, because uninstall from system is not as easy as installing to system! I'll try to improve it by moving the app back to user space instead, but then users might end-up with multiple installs... Quite tricky.
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Is this greyed out heading "(System) Toggles" supposed to stay greyed out once it's installed as a system application? The only indication that a system install was in effect was that the option to install as a system application now said uninstall.
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This is just informative as I want to make sure users understand how system (or power-widget-based) toggles do work (or do not work)...
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You may want to leave some time for a user to grant su permissions when installing as a system application. I've seen this on other apps. It took a couple tries to be quick enough to allow your app permissions before it reported that it didn't have them.
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I indeed noted that sometimes it failed after being granted su permissions... Note sure how to permanently solve this, but I'll try to put a delay before launching further commands under su process to see if it improves.
Wish it was easier to test it, but unfortunately it often requires rebooting the phone!!!

What does "synchro (system)" control? I figure what the "synchro (power)" version does, but system? Seems to disable background data, but what else?

_alphaBeta_ said:
What does "synchro (system)" control? I figure what the "synchro (power)" version does, but system? Seems to disable background data, but what else?
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Actually it controls both background data and auto-sync, enabling or disabling both. It disables both only when both are enabled.

ccounotte said:
Well, that's why I initially left this out, because uninstall from system is not as easy as installing to system! I'll try to improve it by moving the app back to user space instead, but then users might end-up with multiple installs... Quite tricky.
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Yeah, I can see what you mean.
Your widget successfully causes the background data checkbox to toggle. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for my needs, however:
_alphaBeta_ said:
I've found that "auto-sync" only applies to google accounts: gmail, gmail contacts and google calendar on the DROID 2. My primary email is an IMAP account and I'd prefer not to receive these notifications (and ones from other aps) during the evening hours.
My phone also likes to stop syncing randomly, and toggling background data corrects the problem. Going through the maze of settings is just too annoying to be toggling this option on a regular basis.
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Unchecking background data with your widget still does not stop the IMAP emails from coming through, nor does it correct the syncing problem like toggling the option directly does. The phone seems to know that background data is off (as tested by attempting to start the Market), but it doesn't have the same effect. Only thing I noticed is that toggling background data off with your widget leaves a popup asking you to confirm if you go through the system settings and look at the checkbox. Perhaps the setting doesn't take full effect until a user acknowledges this box, which your widget currently does not do. Not sure if that's even possible.

_alphaBeta_ said:
Yeah, I can see what you mean.
Your widget successfully causes the background data checkbox to toggle. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for my needs, however:
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Only thing I noticed is that toggling background data off with your widget leaves a popup asking you to confirm if you go through the system settings and look at the checkbox.
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Background data option (in settings or elsewhere) is a settings that can be checked by application, but it doesn't actually prevent any app from using data connections in the background (the warning message when disabling it).
Your IMAP app probably doesn't care about this particular setting.
On 3 phones I tested using the toggle never brought the warning message, even when opening the settings for that option!? On the other hand the warning/confirmation message is always shown when enabling WIFI localization.
Looks like a ROM's bug?

....looks great~ got to try this .

brightness toggle
hi
is there a way to control the brightness levels for each state of the brightness toggle icon?
all in all nice widget tho!

Can;t install app as system
I recently bought your app but I'm having trouble installing it as a system app. Everything seems to work fine when I try to install it, I rebbot my phone, but after reboot the app is still an "user app" and the system toggles dont work...
Could you help me please? Because I'd really love to be abble to use the system toggles (specially the one to toggle System Location).
Thank you
(I,m running CM10.1 btw)

tristaoeast said:
I recently bought your app but I'm having trouble installing it as a system app. Everything seems to work fine when I try to install it, I rebbot my phone, but after reboot the app is still an "user app" and the system toggles dont work...
Could you help me please? Because I'd really love to be abble to use the system toggles (specially the one to toggle System Location).
Thank you
(I,m running CM10.1 btw)
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This feature requires a rooted device as explained in app description: "10 System toggles (requires rooted phones to install app to system)"
Are you sure your device is rooted as you mentioned in your PM your /data directory is empty I suspect it's not.

Hi, this is a great app but it won't turn off the location (system) after turn on.
I have to manually go settings > google > untick everything.

[Q] Market Notifications

Do Market notifications work for anyone? Or is it a known Android issue? Never worked for me and I'm on wifi/cell towers about 50/50.
Does it work in 2.3? I've never seen it work on 2.1 or 2.2. I've only seen it pop up in the notification area when manually checking/downloading an update. (thanks Google! -eye roll-)

Rarely it will pop up for me when I open the market and don't go to my apps. But almost every time its popped up for me was because I went to my apps.
I was really hoping Androids implementation of this would be better than iOS. Especially when froyo let you update all or enable auto update. In reality I think iOS is better (in this one tiny area), because if you open the app store you instantly see updates are available. But in android if you don't go to my apps sometimes it will take several minutes of browsing the market before you are notified.
Sent from my Captivate running GR-12

I rarely get any Market notifications unless I'm at My Apps in the Market app and let it sit there for a while. It'd be pretty nice if I got notified to update my apps before I go into the Market though, I agree.

always have worked for me whenever i open the Market

Xtracter said:
always have worked for me whenever i open the Market
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Thats the thing....they way the market was sold....so to speak....is that you would get a notification, whenever any app you have installed has an update. Seems most everyone gets that notification after they manually check. Thats what happens with me.

Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.

Demonic240 said:
Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.
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That can't be it because Android judges on it's own what should be shut down based on the memory it needs I think. In other words, I never closed it.
These guys found a way to kick start it a while back, but I can't find the files to do the same for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635050

Demonic240 said:
Could it be because you're shutting down the market app? I know that's what happens with all my other apps that have notifications. You only receive them if you don't "close" the app, but instead leave it running in the background.
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hokiemoto said:
That can't be it because Android judges on it's own what should be shut down based on the memory it needs I think. In other words, I never closed it.
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I think Demonic240's referring to the difference between exiting any app (i.e. Market) using the back button until reaching Home versus 1 clicking away to home or another app. The difference is measurable in Task Manager. Method two: Market still runs. Method one: Market closed.

pc103 said:
I think Demonic240's referring to the difference between exiting any app (i.e. Market) using the back button until reaching Home versus 1 clicking away to home or another app. The difference is measurable in Task Manager. Method two: Market still runs. Method one: Market closed.
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Gotcha. Regardless, I don't see any point in having update Notifications if it requires you to keep the Market app running constantly. I assumed Google had it connected to one of the basic Android services that always run in the background.
In the link in my last post, they talk about a value in a settings.db that triggers a CheckinService. Stuff that I can't find on our phones.

It's an interesting question. I got notifications regularly in 2.1 and can't recall when I got one in 2.2. I kept background data enabled under both.
Checking Manage Applications, Market Updater 1.0 only shows up when viewing All, and appears to be a dead service even when Market is running. I never checked it under 2.1 because it appeared to work.

Mine has never worked...only when I open the market does it decide to tell me I have a update!

Do you mean popup in notification bar or is there actually a popup that comes up. I only see notification never saw a popup.

mansared said:
Do you mean popup in notification bar or is there actually a popup that comes up. I only see notification never saw a popup.
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Only in notification bar is what's expected. And it doesn't happen.

Missing Market Updates - don't show

I've been using DROIDs since DROID 1, then X, and now Bionic.
I have the issue on my Bionic: I'll get a notification that an App has an update. When I select the app from my notification pane, it opens Android Market and takes me to the My Apps view. However, no apps display as needing updates. (Yes, I'm sure it's a notification to update an app and not the notification that an app has been updated (auto updates)).
I can go through all my downloaded apps and none of them show as "updateable." Sometimes it displays, that there are more than one (like 3) apps that have an update, but again, when I go to My Apps, I can't find any app that has an update - there is no update button only Open and Uninstall.
Has anyone else seen or heard of this issue?

Have you changed the LCD density at all? That gives me various problems. I always have to grab an older version of the market place to update.

KTrentLR said:
I've been using DROIDs since DROID 1, then X, and now Bionic.
I have the issue on my Bionic: I'll get a notification that an App has an update. When I select the app from my notification pane, it opens Android Market and takes me to the My Apps view. However, no apps display as needing updates. (Yes, I'm sure it's a notification to update an app and not the notification that an app has been updated (auto updates)).
I can go through all my downloaded apps and none of them show as "updateable." Sometimes it displays, that there are more than one (like 3) apps that have an update, but again, when I go to My Apps, I can't find any app that has an update - there is no update button only Open and Uninstall.
Has anyone else seen or heard of this issue?
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I know what you're talking about. I've found when that happens, it's usually tied to a system app or a preinstalled app, such as Gmail, YouTube, or Zumocast.
Annoying.

mistawolfe said:
I know what you're talking about. I've found when that happens, it's usually tied to a system app or a preinstalled app, such as Gmail, YouTube, or Zumocast.
Annoying.
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I concur, I had the issue as well and updating the pre-installed crapware seemed to remedy the issue.

This has been happening to me as well, and it's not always system apps. Yesterday I had the notification in the morning, with no app showing up to be updated. However, I checked the market later last night, and Swiftkey X was showing up. (I had read that Swiftkey had an update earlier in the day, as I recalled when I saw that.)
It could be that the apps are sending notifications before they hit the market, or it could be that the market app has issues. I think it's the latter. I generally used to check the market for updates when I plug in the phone when going to bed at night, and I may start doing that again.
I hate the new market - since the last few updates (when it got its current new look, with books and movies) the market has been pretty crappy.

Same thing here. I get the notification, but there are no apps showing as having update available. If I go through the apps one by one I can usually find some with updates. I also have apps mysteriously disappear from time to time. I went to open Gentle Alarm last night and it wasnt there anymore, I re-downloaded it and it installed and all my settings were still there. Strange.

For some reason, it keeps changing from your default account to a secondary account. I have two Google accounts on my phone; one for personal and one for work. If you go into Market and then hit menu, accounts-you will notice it changed your default account. I haven't figured out why it does this-my OG never did.

Could it, in part, be due to applications that were set to auto-update?

aac230 said:
For some reason, it keeps changing from your default account to a secondary account. I have two Google accounts on my phone; one for personal and one for work. If you go into Market and then hit menu, accounts-you will notice it changed your default account. I haven't figured out why it does this-my OG never did.
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This happened to me this morning, but changing the account showed me the applications that needed updating. If anyone knows why the account changes, I'd like to know!

Third Party App Notifications not working unless App is Open

I've noticed that if you use a third party app for SMS like Signal, you dont get a notification unless the application is open, same with gmail.
Has anyone else noticed this?

go to advance setting >battery manager >protected app and check if application is not checked on , that's mean when screen is off the application will not work unless you open it... so if you need notification from certain apps just mark it on

aymnga said:
go to advance setting >battery manager >protected app and check if application is not checked on , that's mean when screen is off the application will not work unless you open it... so if you need notification from certain apps just mark it on
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I had the same issue, even checked on, my notifications are late or not working at all. Starting to regret I got this phone :-/

hello i have problem with notifications with boom beach and clash of clans.only raided notifications coming CoC and BB only task force operation. i try check in battery both games buth nothing change. still not coming.tried reinstall both and google play games too but same. any idea. stock MM without root
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This is a the 'doze' function in Huawei EMUI. A lot of firmwares have this issue. It's because Huawei has blacklisted many apps to not to send notification when screen is off. The apps that are white-listed include WhatsApp and some Chinese Tencent crap.
There is a method to enable notifications for all apps but obviously that requires root.
And yeah, Welcome to EMUI, a UI that plays with your emotions.

hackslash said:
This is a the 'doze' function in Huawei EMUI. A lot of firmwares have this issue. It's because Huawei has blacklisted many apps to not to send notification when screen is off. The apps that are white-listed include WhatsApp and some Chinese Tencent crap.
There is a method to enable notifications for all apps but obviously that requires root.
And yeah, Welcome to EMUI, a UI that plays with your emotions.
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I find this quite worrying as a potential P9 owner. Is there a list somewhere of these black/white listed apps?

scook94 said:
I find this quite worrying as a potential P9 owner. Is there a list somewhere of these black/white listed apps?
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All I can say is I have turned on every apps to run when the screen is off. I do t get any notifications, only if I go on the app or if I turned the phone off then back on I get a batch of notifications. I receive certain apps notification but its not consistent. Can't wait for a good root, to get rid of this crappy EMUI and hopefully the camera app will be ported, I'm happy with the pbone, the camera, but this UI is from hell.

Weird, I have 0 issues with notifications, everything turns up very quickly. Gmail, whatsapp, youtube comments... Etc.
I also use Nils lockscreen notifications though, I have the huawei lockscreen notification system disabled. It works very well like this until I find the time to root.

clouds5 said:
Weird, I have 0 issues with notifications, everything turns up very quickly. Gmail, whatsapp, youtube comments... Etc.
I also use Nils lockscreen notifications though, I have the huawei lockscreen notification system disabled. It works very well like this until I find the time to root.
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How did you disable it? Mine is greyed out saying locked by administrator and I haven't. This UI is starting to P me off. Think touchwiz will see me again soon ?

Have you looked at apps > phone manager > notification centre?
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fredhd said:
How did you disable it? Mine is greyed out saying locked by administrator and I haven't. This UI is starting to P me off. Think touchwiz will see me again soon ��
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I only disabled the huawei lockscreen notification system (to disable the lockscreen all together you need root). Just use any lockscreen other than the stock magazine one in the theme selecter.
The UI certainly is different. But imho customizable enough that it doesn't get in the way. This is android after all.

clouds5 said:
I only disabled the huawei lockscreen notification system (to disable the lockscreen all together you need root). Just use any lockscreen other than the stock magazine one in the theme selecter.
The UI certainly is different. But imho customizable enough that it doesn't get in the way. This is android after all.
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Cheers mate, will have a pop at it. [emoji106]
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Cheers mate, will have a pop at it. [emoji106]
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OK if you guys have root i have something to try for you. I had issues with the process of GMD gesture control. It was killed by the battery saving tools implemented in this phone.
So I tried freezing certain system apps through titanium to find the one responsible for closing the background process and I think I found it:
It's a process/app called "power genie". I disabled it and now the process sticks. Also I made gesture control a system app, so maybe it's a combination of the two things.
It's not the same issue as you had but maybe it works for you too.

clouds5 said:
OK if you guys have root i have something to try for you. I had issues with the process of GMD gesture control. It was killed by the battery saving tools implemented in this phone.
So I tried freezing certain system apps through titanium to find the one responsible for closing the background process and I think I found it:
It's a process/app called "power genie". I disabled it and now the process sticks. Also I made gesture control a system app, so maybe it's a combination of the two things.
It's not the same issue as you had but maybe it works for you too.
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So does this method allow for notifications to come through without having firstly opened the application then going to home-screen with it still open?

Milamber said:
So does this method allow for notifications to come through without having firstly opened the application then going to home-screen with it still open?
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You'd have to try that out for yourself because I never had any issues with notifications coming through and I use third party software (Nils) for lockscreen notification.
What I described is a method that prevents a Huawei "power save" service called power genie killing background processes. No guarantees though, I had issues with gmd gesture control not working after a few minutes and I had to constantly open the app to make it work again. Then I froze power genie and since then it worked 100%.
So it's just my theory that it might stop other apps/processes from being closed as well.

I still dont get notifications coming through via the official gmail app, i might trying that power genie freeze, since any app thats not Huawei wont come through as a notification and thats when I give the app full access.'

I'm not sure if this is worth a try, but there's an option to 'ignore optimisations' on a per-app basis.
In settings > Apps > Advanced > Ignore optimisations > All apps
I've instructed to ignore optimisations for Dash, an app with a background service that launches the app upon connection to my car's Bluetooth OBD. I'll feed back if this has any impact, as I've noticed it doesn't auto-start the app on the Huawei P9 as it used to on my Nexus 5, despite 'protecting' the app in the battery manager.

Milamber said:
I still dont get notifications coming through via the official gmail app, i might trying that power genie freeze, since any app thats not Huawei wont come through as a notification and thats when I give the app full access.'
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If it's just Gmail, try deleting cache and data for the Gmail app and reboot first. My wife had the same issue just with the Gmail app a few days ago (on a galaxy s3 though).

Same issue with Instagram so I guess it's not only gmail

Delayed notifications after upgrade to Android 8

I have a tmobile note 8 and ever since I upgraded to Android 8, push notifications are coming in delayed and all at once at random times. Take outlook for example, an hour might go by and then all of a sudden dozens of notifications hit all at once. I checked if maybe battery settings were messing with outlook but it is not blocked and my phone is in performance mode. Seems like my phone is going into a deep sleep and not doing push notifications as they come in. Any idea what is happening?

Same thing happened to mind after update. But seems to be resolved now. I think I went into Apps then pressed the three dots in the up right corner and chose reset app preferences. I also messed about in the notification menu somewhat prior to that.
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Factory reset. A good practice after a major software update.
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Disable the GOOGLE app in app manager. It should ask you if you want to go back to the factory app. Just agree to this. This is assuming you checked to make sure Battery Manager wasn't turning off your app or the data saver wasn't killing your app data access. If you have done these things and your app notification is still delayed it is being caused by the GOOGLE app. Listed as "Google" in app manager. Hope this helps someone else.
UPDATE: I should have mentioned for a permanent solution and to allow you to continue using the GOOGLE app you can go to the Google Play Store, find the installed GOOGLE app, click uninstall to revert to the factory GOOGLE app, once uninstalled click the three dots at the top right and Uncheck the Auto Updates to the GOOGLE app. This will allow you to retain the factory app functions and should resolve this notification issue at the same time.