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As far fetched as it sounds, it is possible to have dual Micro SD's? I would think not, but if a dual sim hack/mod exists, who knows..........
I should be specific that I am asking about the TMO_US model.
guardm said:
As far fetched as it sounds, it is possible to have dual Micro SD's? I would think not, but if a dual sim hack/mod exists, who knows..........
I should be specific that I am asking about the TMO_US model.
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32Gig not big enough for you?
harolds said:
32Gig not big enough for you?
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2x 16GB class 10 is less expensive and heaps faster than 1x 32GB class 2...
maybe like a raid of sd cards ??
haha raid for sd cards.
would be awesome
is there someone who builds an adapter and chipset?
gonna buy one
(ironic of )
DN41
Don't laugh, it exists...
There are 2x microsd to MS Pro duo, and 4x microsd to CF adapters...
http://gizmodo.com/5302727/photofast-cr+7200-compactflash-adapter-runs-four-microsds-in-raid
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16489
But no 2x microSD to SD, which we'd need
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32Gig not big enough for you?
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32 is plenty, but, being the owner of multiple 16, I could definitely make use of such an adapter for my device. Besides, 32GB is waaaay expensive when you already own 4 or more 16GB cards. Some one will find a way the same way some one figured using two sims in one slot.......
kilrah said:
2x 16GB class 10 is less expensive and heaps faster than 1x 32GB class 2...
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Agreed. Sounds like you would use one if avalable.
i wouldn't mind abit of extra bulk on the back of my hd2 if someone wouldn't mind wiring up one of those snazzy toshiba 320gb 1.8" HDD's
no, seriously though, there must be space in there to accomodate an extra card...
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i wouldn't mind abit of extra bulk on the back of my hd2 if someone wouldn't mind wiring up one of those snazzy toshiba 320gb 1.8" HDD's
no, seriously though, there must be space in there to accomodate an extra card...
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There is space but no adapter to make this happen......
I'm wondering if the SanDisk Ultra SDXC 64GB would work in the HTC magic?
If it works, what file system is to be used? exFat doesn't work right? So Will I have to, like use partition magic to force a 64gb fat32 partition?
I have no experience with android 2.1 or any version for that matter, still awaiting delivery of my first android phone. The HTC Magic (unbranded, naturally)
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I'm wondering if the SanDisk Ultra SDXC 64GB would work in the HTC magic?
If it works, what file system is to be used? exFat doesn't work right? So Will I have to, like use partition magic to force a 64gb fat32 partition?
I have no experience with android 2.1 or any version for that matter, still awaiting delivery of my first android phone. The HTC Magic (unbranded, naturally)
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My question... is who in the hell would want to put a $350+ card in a $200 cell phone.
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My question... is who in the hell would want to put a $350+ card in a $200 cell phone.
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Me obviously.
and the reason is so i can switch from using the card in my digital camera, my HTC shift and the android phone. and not to have to keep switching multiple cards.. really a lot of reasons.
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Me obviously.
and the reason is so i can switch from using the card in my digital camera, my HTC shift and the android phone. and not to have to keep switching multiple cards.. really a lot of reasons.
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Well it sounds like someone here has money to burn.
In theory it should work... however I haven't heard of anyone using one before so I cannot say for certain. Give it a try and let us know either way.
Do Not bother getting it. A friend of mine working for FCC center. I snagged one to try out. Man it does not work with any format. Seems like this is hardware of the phone that can not handle it. Friend got technician to look at it, they are all confused why not.
All newer phone from Nexus One, will all takes in the card and read and writes it. But just slow.
Plus $350 is a rip off. The MSRP price for a 64GB SDXC is on $210 to authorized premier resellers.
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Do Not bother getting it. A friend of mine working for FCC center. I snagged one to try out. Man it does not work with any format. Seems like this is hardware of the phone that can not handle it. Friend got technician to look at it, they are all confused why not.
All newer phone from Nexus One, will all takes in the card and read and writes it. But just slow.
Plus $350 is a rip off. The MSRP price for a 64GB SDXC is on $210 to authorized premier resellers.
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Thanks, of what I understand from your message.
$210 for MSRP? I told him it cost $110. He must be day dreaming aging while I was lecturing him. Anyway it is best to wait for compatibility check from phone manufacturing for best hardware compatibility.
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All newer phone from Nexus One, will all takes in the card and read and writes it. But just slow.
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so wait, sdxc actually works with android on newer phones like the nexus one?
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so wait, sdxc actually works with android on newer phones like the nexus one?
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A few of the phone specs I've seen has said up to 32gb but from my experience they're pretty unreliable at updating those figures as newer and bigger cards get released, that's why I started this thread asking for confirmation.
I'm going to sell off my HTC MAGIC vodafone branded and buy , either samsung galaxy 9000 or the new HTC Desire HD (european EVO4G). I just can't decide yet.
Not all new phones are ready for sdxc memory cards. They are both hardware and software prerequisite.
I would do some research on what phone u want to get. But at same time galaxy s sux, sdxc. Do not work with the card.
Warning spoiler : galaxy s pro will be compatible with sdxc. The phone will only be exclusive in Korea.
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Not all new phones are ready for sdxc memory cards. They are both hardware and software prerequisite.
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What he said. You can't just pop an SDXC card on an SDHC-compatible device. It's like saying you're wearing size 14 shoes because your size 11 foot fits inside those shoes.
It wont work because (AFAIK) Android doesnt contain drivers for SDXC. If you insert a SDXC card into your Android device, it will problably just treat it as a SDHC card.
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I'm wondering if the SanDisk Ultra SDXC 64GB would work in the HTC magic?
If it works, what file system is to be used? exFat doesn't work right? So Will I have to, like use partition magic to force a 64gb fat32 partition?
I have no experience with android 2.1 or any version for that matter, still awaiting delivery of my first android phone. The HTC Magic (unbranded, naturally)
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That's a regular SD c ard, not a micro format, there are no known 64gb micro SDXC cards in existence. Also a 32gb, regular SDHC card is still 65$ US - and that's class 4, I can't begin to imagine how much a 64gb SDXC is going to cost.
Also how reliable will it be, there's limits to this stuff when managing the size of flash chips.
Now it exist
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/kingmax-flaunts-worlds-first-64gb-microsd-card/
I'm pretty sure it will work - mine works in my SGSI, SGSII, Sensation, and Transformer.
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html
Now that the cards are proven to exist
And ignoring the question of cost, which is not a technical concern
There are a few objective questions that might merit answers, such as:
1-Are the micro-SDHC and micro-SDXC physical formats, the card sizes and contacts, the same or not? Web posts say that they are and are not, apparently half of those posts are in error and it seems that if the sdxc cards are working in sdhc phones--they are?
2-Is a specific file system driver, in the phone's OS distribution, needed? If so, what?
3-Is a specific file system format of the sdxc card itself required? If so, what? (Presumably requiring a format on a computer that provides for that option if the phone doesn't.)
And then of course, a list of phones actually known and confirmed to work with the precious beasts.
Personally, yes, I think 64GB on the removeable card is ridiculous. But then again, it will cost less than an iPod Classic and it will let me take an extensive music collection "everywhere". Which my own 32GB card won't right now.
There's a reason the iPhone4S has a 64GB memory option now. For some of us, the extra memory will be gladly put to good and economical use. If our phones support it.
At present no phone fully supports microsdxc, even if it reads the card, you wont get the full size or speed from a phone, even the fastest phone on the market cannot take full advantage of the speed of present card, and most phones accepts microsdhc at class 2-10, but you only get low transfer rate, I have the new 16GB uhs1 microsdhc from both toshiba (class 10) and sandisk (class 6), both have verys low speed just like that of class 2-4 when used in mobile phones, so uhs 1 microsdhc is out of the question in mobile phone.
I also seen available the sandisk 64GB microsdxc available in hong kong, not really expensive when compared to the USA, it's approximate USD150, will get one next month to try out.
That's way better than the US prices. Please DO let us know how it works out.
Personally, I don't care about not having full xc speed, etc., I'd be happy just to double the storage capacity. Sandisk US has no interest in the matter, all they know is that Moto "only supports" 32GB. Which they really don't understand means only that no one has tested 64GB sdxc in the phone, so no one has anything to say about it.
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That's way better than the US prices. Please DO let us know how it works out.
Personally, I don't care about not having full xc speed, etc., I'd be happy just to double the storage capacity. Sandisk US has no interest in the matter, all they know is that Moto "only supports" 32GB. Which they really don't understand means only that no one has tested 64GB sdxc in the phone, so no one has anything to say about it.
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the guy in post 15 has tried it on the samsung.
hi kms108, I see you own an Xperia Ray. Did you try the 64gb sd in the Ray? Can you share with us if it works or not? While Googling I only find people speculating that since it works on the Play, it should work on the Ray too, but I hope you can confirm this for real..
What it says on the tin.
I believe the specs say max 32, but I'd love if someone would try it and see if it can read it. I'm really curious, and I'd love to offload all music to my phone and have it all-in-one, as my ipod's DB corrupts every few weeks and it's a huge headache, and it can't intelligently export playlists and etc.
64GB SDXC card works
I purchased the SanDisk Mobile Ultra 64 GB microSD Extended Capacity (microSDXC) Class 6 - 30 MBps Read . The phone didn't recognize it when I put it in and asked me to format the card. Once I did that it works with no problem. I got 59.46GB usable space after that. The phone sees it as sdcard-ext. The SD tools app shows the speed at 6.1 MB/s write speed and 20.9 MB/s read speed.
Ditto, haven't done a speed test with it, but rocking 57 gigs of music on here with a couple gigs free.
Just picked one off of amazon, here goes nothing...
you guys are awesome, glad it can read. Buying one tomorrow.
Just got mine Saturday, works like a charm.
Tested and works for me as well. It did not recognize it as formatted when inserted initially, but once the phone formatted it, it is working fine.
So the question now is, why don't they spec it at 64 instead of 32 GB?
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So the question now is, why don't they spec it at 64 instead of 32 GB?
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Anything over 32GB is SDXC.
Apparently from what I can garner, SDXC compatibility requires recognition of exFAT formatted cards. Android doesn't have exFAT support yet, and that probably is what's preventing them from branding the phone to support SDXC cards.
These are true 64gb chips, right? Not 32gb x2? I know there were some sd cards back in the day that read higher capacity but were basically two sd cards that interfaced as one.
tabry lwastele
64 GB does work but must be formatted natively first. "officially" they only support 32GB.
Sandisk class 6 64GB here, works perfect
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So the question now is, why don't they spec it at 64 instead of 32 GB?
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Anything over 32GB is SDXC.
Apparently from what I can garner, SDXC compatibility requires recognition of exFAT formatted cards. Android doesn't have exFAT support yet, and that probably is what's preventing them from branding the phone to support SDXC cards.
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From Wikipedia:
Compatibility with SDHC
SDXC host devices accept all previous families of SD memory cards.[26] Conversely, SDHC host devices will accept SDXC cards that follow Version 3.0, since the interface is identical,[3] but the following issues may affect usability:
SDXC cards are pre-formatted with Microsoft's proprietary and patented exFAT file system, which the host device might not support. Since Microsoft does not publish the specifications of exFAT and its use requires a non-free license, many alternative or older operating systems do not support exFAT for technical or legal reasons. The use of exFAT on some SDXC cards may render SDXC unsuitable as a universal exchange medium, as an SDXC card that uses exFAT would not be usable in all host devices. Since the FAT32 file system supports volumes up to the SDXC's maximum theoretical capacity of 2 TB as well, a user could reformat an SDXC card to use FAT32 for greater portability between computers (see below). FAT32-formatted SDXC cards can be used in a host device built for SDHC if the host device can handle 64 GB and larger volumes.
SDHC host devices will not test the new capability bits defined for SDXC 4.0 cards. It will therefore not be able to use the new features of SDXC, such as transfer speeds above UHS104 (104 MB/s).
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dont have the phone yet, going to get the tmobile one. Was wondering if the following microSDHC would work with it. Or should i get non HC cards?
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Micro...&qid=1373607420&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+sd+card
Of course it will work, but be careful with sandisk sd cards, they have tendency to lose connection with phone... Non HC cards are max. 2GB, so they are rather trash comparing to HC, or XC (64 GB) cards
Bairei said:
Of course they will work, but be careful with sandisk sd cards, they have tendency to lose connection with phone... Non HC cards are max. 2GB, so they are rather trash comparing to HC, or XC (64 GB) cards
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microSDXC technically maxes out at 2048 GB (2 TB). Also, I've never encountered this disconnection problem people keep talking about. Using a 64 GB SanDisk microSDXC in my phone. If yours does, I would recommend you take it back to the retailer to swap it out.
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dont have the phone yet, going to get the tmobile one. Was wondering if the following microSDHC would work with it. Or should i get non HC cards?
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Micro...&qid=1373607420&sr=8-2&keywords=micro+sd+card
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Get one of these instead: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extreme-uhs-i/?capacity=32GB
It's their new series. While it wont reach its potential maximum in the Xperia Z, it will in your next phone.
You should know that the phone can take 64 GB cards without any problems. I have one of these in my phone and you can't go wrong with that card either. But as I said I would go for the faster card. If nothing else, the faster card will be MUCH quicker to backup into something which does support UHS-1 speeds, like most laptops and ultrabooks do these days.
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microSDXC technically maxes out at 2048 GB (2 TB). Also, I've never encountered this disconnection problem people keep talking about. Using a 64 GB SanDisk microSDXC in my phone. If yours does, I would recommend you take it back to the retailer to swap it out.
Get one of these instead: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extreme-uhs-i/?capacity=32GB
It's their new series. While it wont reach its potential maximum in the Xperia Z, it will in your next phone.
You should know that the phone can take 64 GB cards without any problems. I have one of these in my phone and you can't go wrong with that card either. But as I said I would go for the faster card. If nothing else, the faster card will be MUCH quicker to backup into something which does support UHS-1 speeds, like most laptops and ultrabooks do these days.
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But from what I read online is that the max it supports is a 32gb?
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But from what I read online is that the max it supports is a 32gb?
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In 4.2.2 changelog sony writes that Z has officially support for 64GB SDXC cards... In 4.1 as i heard you can also use them without any bugs
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But from what I read online is that the max it supports is a 32gb?
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Lies, all lies, the reason behind the lies was that most 64GB microSDXC cards come pre-formatted to exFAT, and if people have used them in something else, sticking them in Android would cause them to be formatted, making users lose data. So they said "we don't support 64GB cards", even when theoretically the reader won't have any problems with 2048GB cards assuming such cards existed. OK, I don't know for a fact that 2TB cards would work (hard when they don't exist ), but a 256GB card likely wont cause any trouble for example. There was a guy who stuck a microSD to SD adapter in his Note II and used a 256GB SD card with that. Most likely the same will work on an XZ as the readers are quite indifferent to capacity as long as the cards adhere to a common format (in this case the SDXC standard). Obviously a microSD to SD adapter isn't practical with the XZ, but when larger cards come out they should work flawlessly in the XZ, as long as they are SDXC cards.
In 4.2. Sony added support for exFAT, since then the formatting problem wont occur so they thought it was safe enough to announce support I guess.
It annoys me a little when device specifications indicate a maximum filesystem size, because I know that is only dependant on which SD standard is in use (SDHC only supports up to 32GB) and on the filesystems available to the operating system. Really, when looking at device specifications, what should be indicated is which SD standards are accepted by the phone, and not the largest size the manufacturer has tested.
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In 4.2.2 changelog sony writes that Z has officially support for 64GB SDXC cards... In 4.1 as i heard you can also use them without any bugs
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Ahhh I see. But I'll be getting the tmobile version so it'll be 4.1.2.
Also you happen to know if I can use the volume button to take pictures or videos?
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Ahhh I see. But I'll be getting the tmobile version so it'll be 4.1.2.
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It will still work, you'll just have to format it to FAT32 prior to using it. I would suggest backing up and formatting to exFAT again once the 4.2.2 update drops for T-Mobile, considering the benefits of that filesystem such as filesizes >4.5GB and better Unicode support.
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Also you happen to know if I can use the volume button to take pictures or videos?
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Not using the stock camera app unfortunately.
i use exactly same cards (sandisk 32GB uhs1) it works fine for me
tried transcend cards too and still working
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microSDXC technically maxes out at 2048 GB (2 TB). Also, I've never encountered this disconnection problem people keep talking about. Using a 64 GB SanDisk microSDXC in my phone. If yours does, I would recommend you take it back to the retailer to swap it out.
Get one of these instead: http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extreme-uhs-i/?capacity=32GB
It's their new series. While it wont reach its potential maximum in the Xperia Z, it will in your next phone.
You should know that the phone can take 64 GB cards without any problems. I have one of these in my phone and you can't go wrong with that card either. But as I said I would go for the faster card. If nothing else, the faster card will be MUCH quicker to backup into something which does support UHS-1 speeds, like most laptops and ultrabooks do these days.
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How much did you get it for? Can't find it on amazon. I have amazon gift card. Lol
Does this phone support 64 gb card? Anyone tested??
No and no.
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Does this phone support 64 gb card? Anyone tested??
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Support: no. Tried: no. Running exFat 32 GB Sandisk UHS-I just fine.
No and Yes
Hey,
Using a 64 gigabyte Sandisk Ultra micro-sd and working just fine.
Officially it does not support but unlike tyrael_pl is telling you everybody I know using the Xperia SP has 64 gigabyte memory cards working.
Just insert the card and the phone wil format it automaticly. Then transfer files to it with a cardreader
I can confirm, it works with my Samsung Class 10 64 GB card.
it will definitely work. some people at TMO are using 64gb sd cards on Nokia N900 then how XSP cannot support 64gb ?
yes it works on xperia sp too. 64gb sandisk ultra
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Hey,
Using a 64 gigabyte Sandisk Ultra micro-sd and working just fine.
Officially it does not support but unlike tyrael_pl is telling you everybody I know using the Xperia SP has 64 gigabyte memory cards working.
Just insert the card and the phone wil format it automaticly. Then transfer files to it with a cardreader
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I just said that officially it is not supported, not that it wont work. I also added i never tried, 32 is plenty for me. If a given 64 GB card is or isnt working might me related to allocation unit size. It is reasonable to think that if formated with the smallest possible all. unit size the system might not be able to address the whole card's capacity. I would say that even card's brand and class might be influential. All in all those might be the reasons why 32GB< are not listed as supported. I, myself would like to hear why exactly the official support lists 32 GB as max - from someone who knows and not guesses like me.
Does the 64 GB cards work at full speed? My 32 GB UHS-I works at: read: ~42 MB/s, write: ~14 MB/s
Ah, my bad, I interpret your 'Tried: No' as in 'Tried and did not work'.
For you to understand why 64GB is compatible you need to understand the differences between different types of SD cards and their readers.
The difference between SDHC and SDXC is not a hardware difference but a file system difference. SDHC is formatted in Fat32 and SDXC in exFAT. So hardware compatibility always exits on any SDHC compatible device. In our case android 4.0+ I believe it is is compatible with the exFAT filesystem so that is why it is possible to read and write to the SDXC card. Whether or not a non exFAT compatible android device (or other) would be able to read a 64GB SDXC card formatted in fat32(there are tools who can do this) I do not know.
Also for as far as I know any 64GB SDXC card is supported by the Xperia SP.
EDIT: Not all Android devices support exFAT, but it is supported, I guess that is why Sony does not 'support' exFAT officially, this way they do not have to garantee the workings of SDXC.
Read 25 MB/s, Write 12 MB/s. Enough for me, do not know if it is the max.
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SDHC is formatted in Fat32 and SDXC in exFAT
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SDHC is formatted in Fat32 but by what? If you mean the native format you get it in - yes it is true. If you mean the phone default format file system - true again. If you mean the format it is possible to format in - i formated my card in exFat with no problem and phone runs flawlessly with it. No problems whatsoever, sd a1 bench even measured better read/write time then with internal storage (which i highly doubt and am skeptical about that, but that's just me).
So the true and compact answer i got somewhat right but the full answer as to why 32< GB card are not *offically* supported is:
Larger then 32 GB prefers exFat (due to Fat32 old and outdated addressing issue) to utilize it fully and mindlessly (user fool-proof, on fat32 you need to know that you need quite large sectors to address all of the on 32< cards), and exFat is not offically supported by SP? So... it will work as long as you know what you are doing... If you format a 64 GB card with some ridic small cluster size on fat32 you will only get what 28bit addressing will allow you to.
On the side note, i really suggest anyone to format their cards in exFat. I know it is by far not the best possible file format and is far from perfect but it has some upsides:
+ supports 4GB< single files
+ tests suggest it improves transfer rates quite a bit vs Fat32
+ has no issues with addressing the largest available capacities, no 32GB limit for support
+ does work on JB
Has still some issues:
- *officially* NOT supported by JB
- incompatible with many older win family systems, pre-XP (XP with no SP)
As well as many other details that are not as significant from user perspective, try wiki for more. ExFat seem the best available, somehow large scale compatible file format for mass storage devices (SD, pendrive).
Conclusion:
32< GB cards? No problem as long as exFat formated.
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SDHC is formatted in Fat32 but by what? If you mean the native format you get it in - yes it is true. If you mean the phone default format file system - true again. If you mean the format it is possible to format in
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What do you expect? That what I am trying to say is that formatted in fat32 by turkey sandwiches or meatballs? Ofcourse out of the package, I guess we all know we can format storage carriers the way we want them to be formatted.
The only thing I told you is the reason so you might have an idea.
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and exFat is not offically supported by SP? So... it will work as long as you know what you are doing...
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That is what this whole topic is about dude :cyclops:
Are you just having a hard time understanding or what ?
Im gonna format myself a meatball sandwhich hehe.
Being cocky, somewhat rude and overly sarcastic doesnt solve anything and is not really welcomed here in most cases. Dont treat other's the way you wouldnt like to be treated.
Some things that are obvious for you or me are not as obvious for all readers thats why i personally like to fill the details i am able to. Next time form your thought in more polite manner, i don't spend my time here i be made fun of.
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Sorry for the offtop.
Thanks on all information