May I know anyone here with a replaced battery. Did u stick with 5.1.1 or 4.4.4? Any battery drain issue after battery replacement?(4.4.4/5.1.1) Any suggestion? Thank you
HollyZ1 said:
May I know anyone here with a replaced battery. Did u stick with 5.1.1 or 4.4.4? Any battery drain issue after battery replacement?(4.4.4/5.1.1) Any suggestion? Thank you
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Battery drain has nothing to do with the version of Android you are using. A classic symptom of a dying battery is a sudden drop from let's say 50% to near 0 followed by a shutdown. When I had this symptom, I went back to kitkat and had that too. If your battery is new, the drain is related to the way you use your rom and the apps you have. Number one culprits are rogue apps such as Gapps and social apps (facebook et al). They persist in ram, prevent your phone from sleeping and do their malware/spying activities virtually 24/7. Gapps record everything that is going on with your phone and regularly transmit data to Google. Facebook does the same+ and communicates with facebook servers. Also, any other app that includes Google analytics does the same (communicates with Google and the respective developer).
Lollipop may seem to cause more drain, because these apps are integrated more into Android. It is even worse in Marshmallows. But if you get rid of Gapps/Social Apps and others, your Z1 should last for 2 days with moderate usage: in my case: 2 hours of screen, mail syncing and wifi/data 24/7. If you can't live without facebook and Google, you can still use them the way you do it on your laptop...
Just think about this: do you want this person to have your private life and sell it to everybody? https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.timeinc.net%2Ftime%2F2010%2Fpoy_2010%2Fmark_zuckerberg%2Fmark_zuckerberg_01.jpg&f=1 . In my view, there are similar faces and versions of sociopaths at Google too.
So you mean it's ok to stay lollipop ? i'll disable the Gapps and fb
HollyZ1 said:
So you mean it's ok to stay lollipop ? i'll disable the Gapps and fb
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Lollipop is OK as of September-November 2015. If you are on stock, you need to debloat it. Another problem with Gapps is that they are in System and have root rights. But generally, if you freeze Gapps and FB, your battery life will significantly improve. Every app that has Android native variant is bad (gmail, fb, hangouts and other garbage). You can use K9mail to access gmail or any other e-mail service and you can use web browser to access social sites.. Turn off location services and set them on only when you need them. Turn off system wide syncing: a good app (like K9mail) has its own syncing. Get Afwall and allow internet to apps you use like mail, browser etc. Why do you need Settings or Camera or Gallery or Keyboard or virtually any System app to have access to the internet? You don't and they all waste data and battery communicating with "home" (google)...
Thanks a lot bro
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Google Services is killing my battery with its incessant wakelocks! How do I get rid of this?
I flashed my phone a few days ago... from ICS to JB 4.1.2.... I also loaded NOPE kernel and overclocked to 850 MHz. I thought it was the overclocking that was killing my battery but it looks like it's some of the google services.... they keep cpu wakelocking the phone while it should be sleeping. I mean come on, 6444 wakes in 15hrs?
I see that it's a common issue but there doesn't seem to be an easy fix. Can anyone walk me through what they did to solve? attached are my battery/wakelock stats for reference
You can always greenify it (play store -> greenify). Mind it does restart quite often, so it is a real pain, but most of the google apps depend on it. You could also go to google settings on the phone, and in the location section disable location reporting and location history. This is the main battery killer in google services.
P.S. What's the rom you're using on the pictures?
I read that turning off both GPS and network location services will help fix this.... but then all my apps become dumb. I'm looking at the Google Services screen in Wakelock Detector (image first post) and I can see the wake count for different functions or programs. e.g. NetworkLocationLocator woke 206 times, but GTALK_CONN woke 1668. Is there any way to disable certain aspects of the Google Services app or is it an all or none scenario?
P.S. What's the rom you're using on the pictures?
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It's Speed Droid by addictz10 with the Samsung S5 skin (it's called CM11 CM10.2 TouchWiz 5.0 theme in the Store). The first green pic is using Wakelock Detector and the other 2 are the OS Battery screen.
Well, as for gps, you can turn it off, because it is rarely needed for your phone to have that precise information on your whereabouts. As for network location service, don't turn it off, just turn location reporting and location history in google settings (not phone settings). As for gtalk, well, you'll have to uninstall hangouts and to disable/remove google talk to stop that behavior. I don't think that there is a way of stopping certain wakelocks, and I agree that it would be great if it could be done...
Can someone more knowledgeable make a list of all the bloatware we can safely remove from out phone? So far i have disabled:
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google +
Hangouts
LGSetupWizard
Play Games
LG SmartWorld
There is more but I don't know if it is safe to disable? I have the international version.
zimbara said:
Can someone more knowledgeable make a list of all the bloatware we can safely remove from out phone? So far i have disabled:
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google +
Hangouts
LGSetupWizard
Play Games
LG SmartWorld
There is more but I don't know if it is safe to disable? I have the international version.
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You can find other LG bloatware under priv-app
Based on what I know now, root access is needed to remove these apps as they're preloaded...
But I don't know whether it's changed or...
Sent from my LG-D410 using XDA Free mobile app
Jerry101923 said:
Based on what I know now, root access is needed to remove these apps as they're preloaded...
But I don't know whether it's changed or...
Sent from my LG-D410 using XDA Free mobile app
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You must ne rooted as always!
Apps i have disabled :-
RemoteCall Service
Remote support Service
E-mail
LGSetupWizard
LGSearchWidgetProvider
Google Search
Street View (Useless in India)
Drive
Gmail
Google Calender Sync
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google+
Hangouts
Picasa Uploader
Play Games
Tags
TalkBack
Apps safe to Disable
Weather
Software Update
Memo widget
PC Suite UI
Print Spooler
SIM Toolkit
Calendar Storage
Box
SmartWorld
ThinkFree Viewer
Chrome
Google Contact Sync
Maps
Youtube
I actually screwed up my phone by deleting some apps (mostly Google). Every time I wanted to launch settings it would just crash. And stupid me didn't even think to make a back up of the apps. so moral of the story? Always be sure to back up the app before uninstalling.
LG l90 d410 battery drain
gdjindal said:
Apps i have disabled :-
RemoteCall Service
Remote support Service
E-mail
LGSetupWizard
LGSearchWidgetProvider
Google Search
Street View (Useless in India)
Drive
Gmail
Google Calender Sync
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google+
Hangouts
Picasa Uploader
Play Games
Tags
TalkBack
Apps safe to Disable
Weather
Software Update
Memo widget
PC Suite UI
Print Spooler
SIM Toolkit
Calendar Storage
Box
SmartWorld
ThinkFree Viewer
Chrome
Google Contact Sync
Maps
Youtube
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Hey, I've been using my d410 for almost 6 months now. Battery life used to be amazing. I've rooted my phone, and removed a ton of bloatware with titanium backup. Don't have any games installed either. Over the last two weeks, the battery has started heavily draining. According to battery usage, the biggest culprit seems to be the OS (4.4.2) it eats up anywhere between 45-55% of the battery. Even in standby mode or at night, I lose about 10%!!! I used to charge the battery only when it was less than 5% quite frequently, could that have damaged my battery? Also many times my battery takes almost 6hrs to completely charge! I'd really like some help! Thanks in advance
abhishek1304 said:
Hey, I've been using my d410 for almost 6 months now. Battery life used to be amazing. I've rooted my phone, and removed a ton of bloatware with titanium backup. Don't have any games installed either. Over the last two weeks, the battery has started heavily draining. According to battery usage, the biggest culprit seems to be the OS (4.4.2) it eats up anywhere between 45-55% of the battery. Even in standby mode or at night, I lose about 10%!!! I used to charge the battery only when it was less than 5% quite frequently, could that have damaged my battery? Also many times my battery takes almost 6hrs to completely charge! I'd really like some help! Thanks in advance
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install watchdog app from play store. it will detect if any app draining battery. if it didn't detected any app, then it might be battery problem. also give a try to another charger. :good:
I'd actually used watchdog quite some time back, but it didn't seem to help me. I guess it could be a battery problem... Can't say for sure. I read up a bit, and it turns out kitkat 4.4.2 eats up a lot of battery. So I plan to Flash my rom. Hope it'll help. Btw, gsam battery monitor is pretty useful to check which apps are actually eating up chunks of the battery.
Can I ask how can uninstall Google Chrome and Hangouts from my LG L90 after the Lollipo update? I usually use Clean Master to uninstall these bloatwares (rooted, of course), and I could remove then while in KitKat, but now those apps can't be removed because they appear as blocked.
Opening the details, Hangouts says it breaks SMS functions on Google Device, but I have an LG. Google Chrome reports that when uninstalled I won't be able to use default browser, but AFAIK I've set the UC Browser as default lon time ago (however, prior the root)
There are others like Dictionary, File Manager (I prefer ES Explorer) and so on, all blocked.
Hello!
I got my z3+ today and so far I'm really happy with it. I installed the GNL (Google Now Launcher) straight away because I just love it, used it on my old Xperia ZR. I want my phone to be as smooth, fast and clean as possible. I uninstalled all apps that could be uninstalled through the app-drawer, and now I'm wondering what apps I can inactivate from the settings->apps menu? Does anyone know what apps are safe to remove? I'm guessing I can inactivate the original mail app and SMS app as I'm using Gmail and Google Messenger instead of those.
Can I inactivate Albums app and use googles app for that aswell? When I did that on my ZR suddenly I couldnt show photos that I took through the camera app (you know the small thumbnail of the photo you just took in the lower right corner), I don't want that to happen again and I don't want any problems of that kind.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my grammar, English is not my main language.
you can disable, as i think rooting Z3+ is not yet available Follow apps:
Most Battery Drainers are Google extra stuff:
Google play games
Google new stand
Google music
Google Plus(+)
And other back ground which might not affect your daily usage.
Also i prefer using Browser for social networking sites instead of apps, because apps keep on searching updates from your friends and it causes your phone to be dead soon
After disabling google extra service my phone had a better life...
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you can disable, as i think rooting Z3+ is not yet available Follow apps:
Most Battery Drainers are Google extra stuff:
Google play games
Google new stand
Google music
Google Plus(+)
And other back ground which might not affect your daily usage.
Also i prefer using Browser for social networking sites instead of apps, because apps keep on searching updates from your friends and it causes your phone to be dead soon
After disabling google extra service my phone had a better life...
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That's a good idea! I disabled a bunch of apps now and I think I didn't mess anything up so far.
I really really want to disable the album app and use only Google Photos but I got the same issue as this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/changing-default-album-app-t2921987
I'm guessing there's no fix for that? And now I'm stuck with 2 album apps. Thanks Sony!
Hello,
After many weeks trying to solve Google Play Services, I still have this boring issue.
I'm using Slimm Rom 3.8 with Locked Bootloader
- GPS, Wifi and NFC always off
- Stamina always on
- Brightness under 25%
I don't use much the phone (No facebook, less than 30min on internet, no Youtube, no Music)
I tried :
- to disable SystemUpdateService from Google Play Services and Google Framework with the App "Disable Servces"
- Uninstall updates of Google Play Services and reinstall in both way (Play Store / with APK)
- Using Amplify, AppOpsXposed, Greenify, PowerNap (from this link : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884) and Force Doze
- Disable all Xposed modules (for now I'm using Android N-ify, BootManager, Greenify, Hide Emergency Button & Marshmallow SD Fix)
- Factory reset / flash KitKat .ftf file / Root again / Flash Slimm Rom
I also tried with other Rom like eXistenZ Marshmallow v5.6.5 and AOXP 1.5.7 ROM but I till have the issue.
I took some screenshots so maybe it can help you find what is causing drain.
Thank you in advance for your help
i use slimm and sometimes the battery percentage is going for example from 65% to 59% ,etc, and not only; i had xperience rom from marillia, cm12, existenz, and some - resulty is same. Next time my friend, dont buy SONY!!! ) that i said to myself. Anyway, what i saw from ur picture, google play services drain a lot of battery; also ur signal is very poor.
Try to set ur network to gsm only (not lte./edge) for normal use, and see that guide...maybe will help u. Also that
I've been fighting with Google Play Service for months because of the battery drain problem. In the end (tired of changing rom ecc..) I founded the solution on the last Xperia Concept Rom without root. Now the drain is totally gone, and I get 2 days battery life with ~5/6h screen time (using greenify only for aggressive doze, and having FB, Messenger, WA, telegram, gmail ecc..). Before, on others rom I couldn't get more than 4h screen time lately, so I'm super happy
op3n said:
i use slimm and sometimes the battery percentage is going for example from 65% to 59% ,etc, and not only; i had xperience rom from marillia, cm12, existenz, and some - resulty is same. Next time my friend, dont buy SONY!!! ) that i said to myself. Anyway, what i saw from ur picture, google play services drain a lot of battery; also ur signal is very poor.
Try to set ur network to gsm only (not lte./edge) for normal use, and see that guide...maybe will help u. Also that
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Thank you for all your information but sadly I already tried all of that without success =/
I think that my next phone will not be Sony, even if I like them the camera isn't as good as they annonce.
Matteo Mazzu said:
I've been fighting with Google Play Service for months because of the battery drain problem. In the end (tired of changing rom ecc..) I founded the solution on the last Xperia Concept Rom without root. Now the drain is totally gone, and I get 2 days battery life with ~5/6h screen time (using greenify only for aggressive doze, and having FB, Messenger, WA, telegram, gmail ecc..). Before, on others rom I couldn't get more than 4h screen time lately, so I'm super happy
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I was thinking about installing stock rom without root but I really don't like all the pre-installed apps. It is a big dilema in my head ^^
slutman said:
I was thinking about installing stock rom without root but I really don't like all the pre-installed apps. It is a big dilema in my head ^^
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I know the feeling! But consider that on concept you don't have any, and the few Google apps I don't use are disabled. The only real thing I missed was double tap lock screen off, but I managed with Power Toggle :good:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/development/rom-slimm-t3359831/post69260867#post69260867
Didgesteve said:
I have posted several times in this thread ways to fix the Google battery drain. It's now such a long thread that some people may have missed my previous posts, so to summarise : (this is not guaranteed to fix your phone, I am just trying to help)
Method 1
Factory reset, restart to recovery, flash full Slim rom(nothing else) . Restart. Log in to Google from scratch, leave the phone for some time before installing any mods. Let Google phone home and set the phone up before installing Xposed, amplify, firewall etc etc.
Restore apps with Titanium Backup, but just apps+data, NO system apps, NO Google apps. I realise a full factory reset is beyond most users compression, but this is really the best way and will fix 90% of the problems I see posted on the thread.
Method 2
The lazy 'I don't believe I need to do a factory reset' method
Disable all Xposed modules, go into airplane mode, no wifi.
Reboot phone.
Delete your Google account.
Use Titanium Backup to delete the data on the following apps:
Google account manager
Google backup transport
Google play services
Google play store
Gmail
Google calendar sync
Google contacts sync
Google bookmarks sync
Google services framework
Download manager
(it will get more & more difficult to do this as once you remove the Google account, Google. gms, keeps FCing)
Reboot to recovery, wipe cache & dalvik, reboot phone.
Enable network.
Add Google account, leave it with 'synchronise accounts' for some time, let Google do its thing before enabling Xposed or any other system mods(important)
Enabling a firewall or excessive privacy control (like trying to mask your IMEI or account) will just piss GPS off and it will try even harder to phone home, causing huge battery drain. The more you try and block the various Google services the more they try get out.
I don't believe that the battery drain is connected to this rom specifically. I know the Dev has made some tweaks to try and help, but if you take the time to read the Google forums, this problem effects most makes of phone and all firmware versions.
Edit: You should always do a recovery backup before making any changes to your phone, I am not responsible blah blah blah
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It's time to clean my phone so I might as well update. I'm currently at Pie November update. My question is what are the main Android 10 issues in summary with our device and are there any serious hiccups for the average everyday user like me? How is the battery life like and such? I need an adequate answer not something like "it sucks" so if you're going to write something of that sort, please refrain from doing so. Thanks in advance.
DON'T UPDATE YOUR PHONE FIRST SEE THIS
Basic things work but I face issues many times. Most common Ghost Touch, Phone Freezes for 10-25 secs and then comes a popup System UI not responding and then wait or reboot for phone to get normal. Everything else works properly but update only if you can handle these on daily basis. I have 4/64 GB variant and my usage is somewhat basic to medium with 3-5 apps in memory and phone starts freezing. Also I would say compared to pie the battery loss has increased
I rooted and stripped out all the garbage (feedback etc.) including most of the Google stuff, and I have zero problems.
I would say, however, that battery life isn't the greatest but that may just be the phone and not the OS.
Exxdeea said:
I rooted and stripped out all the garbage (feedback etc.) including most of the Google stuff, and I have zero problems.
I would say, however, that battery life isn't the greatest but that may just be the phone and not the OS.
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Could u pls add more detail what r those bloatware s.. planning to root soon
Wireless range and speed tanked (you can find kernel with pie driver as workaround. Most custom roms use pie driver as well).
Slow emmc that causes the well known frequent hangs. Even just typing on keyboard you often get stutters.
Settings suggestions won't go away.
Battery charging behavior changed: it charges at full speed with screen off, but with screen on it throttles to 1000ma or 500ma as battery temperature increases.
If you're gonna bother to reset and stay rooted, I'd suggest going custom rom already.
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Could u pls add more detail what r those bloatware s.. planning to root soon
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I disabled all of these, though obviously you can pick and chose which ones you want to keep:
Android accessability Suite
Android Auto
bookmark prov
calendar
calendar storage
call log back up/restore
carrier services
chrome
com.android.partners.partnerbookmarks
default print sevice
device health services
digital wellbeing
drive
duo
Exchange Services
feedback
gmail
google
google contacts sync
google location history
google news
google one time init
google news
google partner setup
google play movies
google play music
google play store
GSF
home screen tips
html viewer
keep notes
lens
market feedback agent
musicFX
photos
print service recommendation
print spooler
proxy Handler (com.android,proxyhandler)
setting sugestions - com.andorid.settings.intelligence
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