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Hi All,
So I've come to these forums a bunch seeing new rooting methods and just generally interested in androids in general but I'm having an issue that I can't seem to find addressed anywhere or at least I'm having no success currently getting this to work. So one of my clients has a verizon moto maxx running 4.4.4 kitkat. He used the phone to take a bunch of photo's and video of a trip he went on and when he was trying to move the data onto his computer he accidentally deleted it. Now the phone is a corporate phone, given to him by our company, so rooting isn't really an option and even if it was his bootloader isn't unlocked so I'd have to unlock it which would reformat the phone anyway. So I was wondering if anyone here has any suggestions on how I could recover his data which is very important to him without rooting and\or a root work around that I can do without unlocking the bootloader.
Thanks all you're my best hope,
Ber
beriska said:
Hi All,
So I've come to these forums a bunch seeing new rooting methods and just generally interested in androids in general but I'm having an issue that I can't seem to find addressed anywhere or at least I'm having no success currently getting this to work. So one of my clients has a verizon moto maxx running 4.4.4 kitkat. He used the phone to take a bunch of photo's and video of a trip he went on and when he was trying to move the data onto his computer he accidentally deleted it. Now the phone is a corporate phone, given to him by our company, so rooting isn't really an option and even if it was his bootloader isn't unlocked so I'd have to unlock it which would reformat the phone anyway. So I was wondering if anyone here has any suggestions on how I could recover his data which is very important to him without rooting and\or a root work around that I can do without unlocking the bootloader.
Thanks all you're my best hope,
Ber
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Technically, the only the international versions of this device are called the "Moto Maxx", the Verizon versions are called the "Droid Turbo". There are no root or bootloader unlock methods available for the Turbo.
He might be able to recover the data, depending on how he deleted it and what's he done since deleting it. If he hit a delete all button or something, then he might be good. That only really deletes the "hooks" to that data and makes the storage space the data exists on available to write on, because that's a lot faster than actually deleting all of the data. The only way the data really gets deleted is once that storage space is overwritten with new data.
There's no way of knowing if the data is still there to be recovered, and you need to use 3rd party software to do so. My friend has used this service before with success: http://www.wondershare.net/ad/dr-fo...geK_vorCLp-HKwHo11cOy-LBrNS29vKP50aAoOg8P8HAQ
I've never personally used it, nor do I know if it costs anything. It doesn't appear to, but I haven't installed it.
Try using Puran File Recovery. I've used it in the past when i've accidently deleted a file off my phone. I believe it's free to use.
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I used Dr. Fone and it said the phone was not a serviceable model. It still said it could recover the data but required the phone to be rooted since it wasn't a normal model for it. Thanks for the suggestion though.
How do I use Puran File Recover on my phone?
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Try using Puran File Recovery. I've used it in the past when i've accidently deleted a file off my phone. I believe it's free to use.
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Hi there, I am a huge noob (as in I just started trying to retrieve my sms messages today) and am hoping Puran can help me... After trying to root my phone for a long time I found out that Android Maxx 4.4.4 can't be. So now I'm looking at recovery options that don't require the phone to be rooted. I downloaded Puran to my computer, but can't figure out how to run it on my phone. So I also tried to download it on my phone, but the file won't open.... How have you run it on your phone in the past? I am beyond desperate to recover these texts and any help you can provide will be HUGELY appreciated.
I have an ATT S5 (SM-G900A), completely stock, unrooted, updated to the latest 5.0 OTA update. My requirements for my phone are that it be able to pass Airwatch checks and that it be able to be encrypted (Personal device used at work). Some background first:
Last time I tried to play around with rooting, other mods, and whatnot was on my ATT S3 (I think I747?) and I discovered that an unspecified combination of rooting, installing a custom loader (CWM in my case) and installing a custom mod (Cyanogenmod at the time) made my phone unable to encrypt. At the time I was not required to use Airwatch, but encryption was required for my phone to connect to work, so I gave up on the whole lot.
I have now discovered that ATT, in their infinite wisdom, has replaced the S Voice drive mode with their own "ATT Drive Mode", and it's been verified they went so far as to remove the related APKs from the phone entirely. For those unaware, S Voice Drive mode is an feature of S Voice that (when turned on) reads out all callers and text messages, and then verbally prompts you for actions; reply, answer, ignore, etc. It allows fully hands free functionality. ATT Drive Mode, on the other hand, automatically kicks in whenever speeds of 20 MPH are detected (even if you're a passenger), rejects all calls and texts excluding a user-defined 5 person list, and essentially makes your phone useless anytime you're in a car. The goal is to "reduce texting and distracted driving", but as I'm on-call as part of my job and need to at least be aware of texts that come in within 10 minutes of receipt, it actually makes my drive much more dangerous. ATT Drive mode is a good idea for teens, perhaps, but i'm not a teen.
This brings me to my question: What are my options?
--Does rooting break my ability to encrypt? I know airwatch will flag, but I'm thinking there's a possibility of being able to root, put a custom loader on my phone, and then restore stock with that custom loader, whereupon I can try to install the drive mode APK...which leads me to my next question:
--Does having a custom loader (like safestrap or CWM or whatever is in use nowadays) break my ability to encrypt?
--Does anyone know of a way to install the S Voice drive mode in the G900A? I tried searching, but the only references involved being rooted, or ended with something vague like "download a stock rom and find the apk using root explorer" as the solution (which is vague to me because I don't know which stock rom to use, what apk to look for, and last time I used root explorer on my s3, it needed root...)
Honestly, the ideal solution would be something like the stock rom from the international version that would run on my ATT version...but I don't know if such a thing exists or is possible. I don't mind Samsung's cruft, but I do dislike ATT's lobotomizing of my phone to push their own little product that treats me like a kid. I know that I am less safe as a driver without the S Voice drive mode than I was with it.
I take it I have no options? And that no one knows how rooting affects encryption?
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I take it I have no options? And that no one knows how rooting affects encryption?
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I will make it easy for you. Since you took the 5.0 OTA update rooting is not possible anymore. Also there is no way to downgrade to KitKat which was rootable. Sorry. Not much you can do until someone finds a way to root 5.0. If you find the S Voice Drive app, you can side load it and see if it works.
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I will make it easy for you. Since you took the 5.0 OTA update rooting is not possible anymore. Also there is no way to downgrade to KitKat which was rootable. Sorry. Not much you can do until someone finds a way to root 5.0. If you find the S Voice Drive app, you can side load it and see if it works.
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Actually, while I greatly appreciate the fact that you took the time to reply (seriously! at least you took the time!), this is neither easy nor related to the questions I asked. If you look at my post, I'm not asking "how can I root", I'm asking three rather different questions:
--Does rooting break my ability to encrypt? I know airwatch will flag, but I'm thinking there's a possibility of being able to root, put a custom loader on my phone, and then restore stock with that custom loader, whereupon I can try to install the drive mode APK...which leads me to my next question:
--Does having a custom loader (like safestrap or CWM or whatever is in use nowadays) break my ability to encrypt?
--Does anyone know of a way to install the S Voice drive mode in the G900A? I tried searching, but the only references involved being rooted, or ended with something vague like "download a stock rom and find the apk using root explorer" as the solution (which is vague to me because I don't know which stock rom to use, what apk to look for, and last time I used root explorer on my s3, it needed root...)
In fact, I am unable to remain rooted (Airwatch; it's part of the post title), and the whole point and thrust of my question lies in the fact that I am looking to find out what affects encryption and what options I have as far as getting S Voice Drive mode on my phone while staying Airwatch compliant (not rooted). In addition, "if you can find the s voice drive app" is part of the problem too, as evidenced by the third question I asked above; I don't know where to find said app.
Does anyone know anything regarding what I was actually asking?
Everything that you want to do requires ROOT! Safstrap needs root, CWM will brick you phone since the bootloader is locked. Again, there is no way as of now to root the S5 with 5.0 att OTA.
Here is the link to download the GS4 S Voice app. You can try and side load it,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oe7i2g81iuhjv38/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk?dl=0
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Everything that you want to do requires ROOT! Safstrap needs root, CWM will brick you phone since the bootloader is locked. Again, there is no way as of now to root the S5 with 5.0 att OTA.
Here is the link to download the GS4 S Voice app. You can try and side load it,
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Awesome, I'll start with that sideloading, and test it out. Thanks! As far as the rest, I suppose that does clarify some things (that I admittedly already knew), so I do appreciate it, but it still does leave the answers to the other questions. I can infer, of course, that the answer to whether having a custom bootloader on the Galaxy S5 breaks encryption will be dependent on whether root breaks the encryption, since as you pointed out custom bootloaders need root to install, but the fantasy I entertained for a little while was rooting when there's a method (hope springs eternal, so I'm hoping it will eventually be possible), installing a custom bootloader so I can do things like backups and sideload, getting the proper apk's installed for the drive app, and then unrooting it so I can connect it via airwatch to my work's network. Perhaps I should have marked this as a solidly theoretical question, since as you said, there currently exists no root. I just want to know, with the unique way that Samsung implemented Knox and the encryption on the S5, what will break encryption and what won't?
Of course, there is a side question brought up by all this...how possible is it to load another firmware on my phone? as in, use Odin to put the tmobile image on my phone. That is likely a bad example, since I'm fairly certain there are actual hardware differences between the ATT and the tmobile models, but the concept still stands. At what level are the hardware configurations different between phone companies?
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Awesome, I'll start with that sideloading, and test it out. Thanks! As far as the rest, I suppose that does clarify some things (that I admittedly already knew), so I do appreciate it, but it still does leave the answers to the other questions. I can infer, of course, that the answer to whether having a custom bootloader on the Galaxy S5 breaks encryption will be dependent on whether root breaks the encryption, since as you pointed out custom bootloaders need root to install, but the fantasy I entertained for a little while was rooting when there's a method (hope springs eternal, so I'm hoping it will eventually be possible), installing a custom bootloader so I can do things like backups and sideload, getting the proper apk's installed for the drive app, and then unrooting it so I can connect it via airwatch to my work's network. Perhaps I should have marked this as a solidly theoretical question, since as you said, there currently exists no root. I just want to know, with the unique way that Samsung implemented Knox and the encryption on the S5, what will break encryption and what won't?
Of course, there is a side question brought up by all this...how possible is it to load another firmware on my phone? as in, use Odin to put the tmobile image on my phone. That is likely a bad example, since I'm fairly certain there are actual hardware differences between the ATT and the tmobile models, but the concept still stands. At what level are the hardware configurations different between phone companies?
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You will not be able to change your bootloader period... At this point the locked bootloader is unbreakable. That leads to your next question about tmobile and that's a no as well due to the locked down bootloader.
Even with root you won't be able to do anything you've suggested due to the locked bootloader.
OPOfreak said:
You will not be able to change your bootloader period... At this point the locked bootloader is unbreakable. That leads to your next question about tmobile and that's a no as well due to the locked down bootloader.
Even with root you won't be able to do anything you've suggested due to the locked bootloader.
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Interesting. I had been under the impression that I had seen people referring to installing clockworkmod or some similar thing on an S5, but I think I may be getting caught up in terminology; those are recoveries, aren't they? not bootloaders? Or perhaps people were posting about the other S5s with unlocked bootloaders. 15 different versions of S5, and I get stuck with the most apple-like of all the carriers....(in the sense of "you take what we give you and don't play with it!")
So, assuming I don't manage to get it installed via the link Waiting4MyAndroid was kind enough to post, I think that rules out anything other than the method of:
--wait for a root method to be established for the new OTA
--root, install the drive apk
--unroot, so I can encrypt and pass airwatch
Does anyone know if the old method of rooting broke encryption? and whether encryption was able to be performed after unrooting again?
Edit: Attempted to Sideload. Sadly, it is telling me "App not installed" (other sideloads do work; it's not the unknown sources setting). I'm thinking either the apk is marked for s4, and it's not compatible, or it's trying to overwrite files from the established svoice system, and that's not allowed. I suppose if someone has the drive apks from a tmobile S5 image or some such thing (same model, different carrier), then I could try again, but unfortunately this apk doesn't work. Thanks for the attempt, Waiting4MyAndroid!
So I actually don't have the S5, or any Samsung device for that matter, but a friend of mine does, and really wants to root their phone. I had no idea the AT&T S5 was so secure, but it's pretty interesting too. I've been researching for over 15 hours. I may not have been able to root his phone, but I think I have learned a couple things and maybe some possible root methods.
1.) Since using ODIN to downgrade would soft brick the phone, would it be possible to download the stock Lollipop update onto a computer, give the update super user access, replace the recovery with a custom one, or unlock the bootloader from the computer, then flash it through ODIN?
2.) Intercept any sort of OTA update, then alter it to flash a custom recovery or unlock bootloader? I don't know how you would go around this though.
3.) If someone hasn't taken the OTA update that patched the Stagefright exploit, could someone purposely use the exploit to allow installation of a custom recovery or even to unlock the bootloader since the Stagefright bug has super user access (or so I've heard).
Also, I'm sorry if these are stupid ideas. I know close to nothing about Samsung so everything I'm basing this off of is what I've read in the past 15 hours.
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So I actually don't have the S5, or any Samsung device for that matter, but a friend of mine does, and really wants to root their phone. I had no idea the AT&T S5 was so secure, but it's pretty interesting too. I've been researching for over 15 hours. I may not have been able to root his phone, but I think I have learned a couple things and maybe some possible root methods.
1.) Since using ODIN to downgrade would soft brick the phone, would it be possible to download the stock Lollipop update onto a computer, give the update super user access, replace the recovery with a custom one, or unlock the bootloader from the computer, then flash it through ODIN?
2.) Intercept any sort of OTA update, then alter it to flash a custom recovery or unlock bootloader? I don't know how you would go around this though.
3.) If someone hasn't taken the OTA update that patched the Stagefright exploit, could someone purposely use the exploit to allow installation of a custom recovery or even to unlock the bootloader since the Stagefright bug has super user access (or so I've heard).
Also, I'm sorry if these are stupid ideas. I know close to nothing about Samsung so everything I'm basing this off of is what I've read in the past 15 hours.
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The issue is that AT&T (and Verizon) use an encrypted signature key to verify they are the correct unaltered files as well as the means to unlock the bootloader to allow the OTA. Without that key, the tasks you mention are near impossible. They are not stupid ideas at all..just very difficult with all the security checks included.
KennyG123 said:
The issue is that AT&T (and Verizon) use an encrypted signature key to verify they are the correct unaltered files as well as the means to unlock the bootloader to allow the OTA. Without that key, the tasks you mention are near impossible. They are not stupid ideas at all..just very difficult with all the security checks included.
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Crap... well does anyone know how that encyption key is generated? Like, could I theoretically get an algorithm from a ROM?
Honestly for the time being I wouldn't bother with ROMS for that Device and carrier at the moment. Especially being that its someone elses device. Towelroot should be a good start. If Im not mistaken I don't think its supposed to trip knox.
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Crap... well does anyone know how that encyption key is generated? Like, could I theoretically get an algorithm from a ROM?
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This is the riddle of the Sphinx my friend. I am sure the super devs have tried their best so far to crack it. It has been an ongoing effort to make phones more and more secure, not against the amateur developers and rooters, but against the hackers. These smartphones are now our personal computers, diaries, personal assistants, financial operator, and more. They basically are a person's (and business's) life. AT&T and Verizon have taken the big steps to appeal to the Exchange clients, corporate, government and military contracts. Even the general public want to know their phone is secure. This is what keeps me stuck on the Sprint network.
Have you tried Kingroot?
I successfully rooted my wife's AT&T S4 on OC3 lollipop (supposedly unrootable) with the desktop version. Mobile version didn't work but desktop did without a hiccup. Maybe it'll work on the S5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
Rockin' a l337 with Goldeneye v49.1 + Wanam Xposed and loving life on AT&T's 4G LTE network
S5 on lollipop has a new nasty boot loader.... it was a miracle on its own that they ever came up with safestrap to duck the boot loader on earlier versions of android
I have been looking for 3 days now for the US firmware for the SM-T550NZASXAR (might be the same as SM-T550NZAAXAR) and I can't find it. Sam mobile has the files for many countries but fails to show the US version. Am I missing something?
The digitizer keeps losing the touch sensing ability but I'm pretty sure it's a software problem as it comes back after maybe 15 minutes then it stops again after about 20 minutes of use. I want to try and re-install the OS with Oden and see if it clears whatever is going on. I'm hoping it's just bad cache or something.
The Canadian version is usually the same but double check just in case
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Same Issue. I been also looking for US firmware for my SM-T350 Samsung Galaxy Tab A. I see it available for all other countries but not for USA. For all people that live in the US like me. We need to all nag Samsung & complain cause obviously they only support it for all other countries & not US. It pisses me off & it's so unfair. I need the firmware for part of the procedure to fix my rooted tab that's in bootloop
Upset with T-350 firmware situation
I've experienced the same disatisfaction with the non-availability of firmware. I'm also having trouble finding TWRP dedicated for this, kingrooted, device (sm-t350). Any insight? I've read the xda thread on compiling twrp on my own but I'm thinking that's still a bit over my head. I bought multiple cool apps since rooting my device only to find out I need twrp (or cwm) to make use of what these app have to offer.
Thx
weaselleaf said:
I've experienced the same disatisfaction with the non-availability of firmware. I'm also having trouble finding TWRP dedicated for this, kingrooted, device (sm-t350). Any insight? I've read the xda thread on compiling twrp on my own but I'm thinking that's still a bit over my head. I bought multiple cool apps since rooting my device only to find out I need twrp (or cwm) to make use of what these app have to offer.
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http://www.thegalaxytabforum.com/index.php?/topic/33026-recovery-twrp-2871-tab-a/
Twrp tested on sm-t350
weaselleaf said:
I've experienced the same disatisfaction with the non-availability of firmware. I'm also having trouble finding TWRP dedicated for this, kingrooted, device (sm-t350). Any insight? I've read the xda thread on compiling twrp on my own but I'm thinking that's still a bit over my head. I bought multiple cool apps since rooting my device only to find out I need twrp (or cwm) to make use of what these app have to offer.
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twrp for SM-T350 is file name twrp-28.71-t350.tar
I can't link or i would link you it. Just google search that file name and there is one from android file host
Flash with Odin 3.10.7
Tested and works perfect
Seth50 gets all the credit just confirming it works
WOW! i have been messing with this for hours and cant believe that the samsung smart switch offered such an easy solution.
i made the mistake of flashing a rooted firmware file before unlocking the bootloader and soft bricked it. the smartswitch asks for the model# (SM-T350) and the serial number (no, im not putting mine here), tells you to enter odin mode and then it does all of the dirty work for you... amazing!
one thing to keep in mind is that the install for smart switch will not work on newer machines unless you install legacy software that you can find here https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=5582
qixiixiq said:
WOW! i have been messing with this for hours and cant believe that the samsung smart switch offered such an easy solution.
i made the mistake of flashing a rooted firmware file before unlocking the bootloader and soft bricked it. the smartswitch asks for the model# (SM-T350) and the serial number (no, im not putting mine here), tells you to enter odin mode and then it does all of the dirty work for you... amazing!
one thing to keep in mind is that the install for smart switch will not work on newer machines unless you install legacy software that you can find here https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=5582
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I realize this is an old thread, but looking for help. Purchased a Wifi-only Galaxy Tab A, and looking for the stock 6.0.1 ROM. The Smart Switch software doesn't downgrade it anymore. They've since updated the software to remove that capability, but even older versions still reapply Nougat. Sammobile.com doesn't seem to have it. Has anyone had success finding the stock MM US ROM for this tablet? If you're asking why, adb restore doesn't work on Nougat and I'm trying to restore backups without root. I have a second SM-T350 fresh out of the box, and restore is working. So, want to downgrade to official MM to restore, then maybe upgrade again if I feel like it....
Edit: Embarrassingly, it's in this same forum.... Download it now...I'll see myself out....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-stock-builds-sm-t350-ghost-project-t3529439
OK I'm a complete newbie here. I bought the 8" S2 International unlocked version from Amazon and will take it to AT&T to activate it tomorrow. It's on 5.0.2 and is not seeing any OTA updates. Does anyone know if there's a way to get 5.1.1 OTA? If not, does anyone know if Samsung has commented as to whether they'll release 5.1.1, or even Marshmallow, for this device or will I have to go to a custom ROM?
Also, is there an absolute beginners guide to this site? I've been reading through the threads and keep seeing terms like odin, twrp, and many others that I don't know what they mean and I'd like to figure out.
Thanks.
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OK I'm a complete newbie here. I bought the 8" S2 International unlocked version from Amazon and will take it to AT&T to activate it tomorrow. It's on 5.0.2 and is not seeing any OTA updates. Does anyone know if there's a way to get 5.1.1 OTA? If not, does anyone know if Samsung has commented as to whether they'll release 5.1.1, or even Marshmallow, for this device or will I have to go to a custom ROM?
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i just received the same device yesterday and so far, it's working just fine on at&t: including data full phone features (i wasn't aware that this version of the Tab S2 had a full fledged phone). i inserted my nano sim from my dual-sim note5 and the S2 configured everything automatically. also, i didn't see an OTA when i checked yesterday and there's nothing at sammobile.com which is where one can generally find firmware (stock ROM) for Samsung devices. any custom ROM right now will likely be 5.0.2.
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Also, is there an absolute beginners guide to this site? I've been reading through the threads and keep seeing terms like odin, twrp, and many others that I don't know what they mean and I'd like to figure out..
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Odin = Windows based application used to flash firmware to Samsung devices.
TWRP = a custom recovery that - once your phone is rooted (similar to admin privileges on windows pc) - allows one to flash a custom ROM or other components/features not on a stock device. you can also create backups/nandroids of your device so you can restore your device if something goes wrong (similar to resorting a windows system image to a new hard drive). always, always backup when trying things out. tutorials are here, but sometimes not easily located via search. :good: