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Is Note charger same as Galaxy S2 charger?

Hi,
Getting an EU version of the Note, so I need to buy a Uk charger, is the charger for the Note and Galaxy S2 compatible? Thinking buying a 3rd party Galaxy S2 charger on ebay.
Many thanks

I suspect any 5v microusb charger delivering over 0.5A will be fine.
Expansys sent me a standard HTC one (5v 1A) with my german note and I am in the UK.

Thanks, I have a couple of generic USB wall chargers at home, so might as will use them with the Note.

I can't answer the question directly, but that big screen, fast processor and larger battery are going to take a bit more juice than your average phone, including the S2. When it comes to mains chargers that may not be a big deal, unless you leave the phone active while charging, but might become an important consideration if trying to use the phone for satnav in the car, for example.
At the moment I'm using an Orange San Francisco. That has a 3.5" OLED screen and a 600MHz single core processor, so hardly an energy guzzler. The supplied charger is rated at .7A. In the car, when using satnav, my generic USB car charger cannot quite keep pace with the energy demands of that little phone and the battery level actually drops slowly while connected to power in the car. I'm definitely going to be looking for something more robust for the Note.

Note charger is 1 amp, Nexus S .7 amp, Note charges fine off the .7 amp charger.

I assume a standard Samsung GS charger would do, the output on it is 0.7A?

tdodd said:
When it comes to mains chargers that may not be a big deal, unless you leave the phone active while charging, but might become an important consideration if trying to use the phone for satnav in the car, for example.
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Surprise, my car charger was not good enough for the S2 while using nav software, but the Note charges nicely.
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So could I use my Samsung Galaxy S charger with my note (that I will order soon) or shall I purchase this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Cha...KQU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320872764&sr=8-1
... the above is 1000mA... is that enough?
Or should I just purchase a Euro/Worldwide adapter to UK plug?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Travel-Adap.../dp/B000P0FIUM/ref=dp_cp_ob_computers_title_0

Gede said:
Surprise, my car charger was not good enough for the S2 while using nav software, but the Note charges nicely.
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You not only need a charger that can deliver more oomph, but also a lead or charger, possibly modified, that will allow the phone to draw that current. I have 1A USB chargers for the car but a regular data/charging lead only permits the phone to charge at the standard USB maximum current of 0.5A. I had to open up one of my chargers and solder the two centre pins together. Shorting those two pins signals to the phone that it can draw the full "mains" current rather than the 0.5A USB maximum.
I haven't yet charged the Note in the car, but on my previous phone the charging status would show "Charging (USB)" prior to the mod and once modded it would show "charging (AC)", which is what you need to keep the phone charged and charging while in use rather than slowly depleting.

jUsT2eXy said:
So could I use my Samsung Galaxy S charger with my note (that I will order soon) or shall I purchase this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Cha...KQU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320872764&sr=8-1
... the above is 1000mA... is that enough?
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Same inquiry as me. Thanks for those links by the way.

I have used the 2 amp charger of my galaxy tab 10.1.
I have the impression this charges my note noticably fatster.

Super Chimp said:
Same inquiry as me. Thanks for those links by the way.
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1 amp is good..same as the GS2, i believe... so , yes- the GS2 charger should work on the Note

Kibosh3 said:
1 amp is good..same as the GS2, i believe... so , yes- the GS2 charger should work on the Note
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I can confirm that SGS2 charger works on note. However charging is slow ( its 0.7 A )
However the note charger ( 1.0 A) charges faster
dont have a 2 A charger to test but I would say that it would be the same speed as 1 A charger.
If we want faster charging, we will need the kernel to modified.
The downside would be shorter battery life.

adapter
Would it work to get an adapter from the European plug that comes with the note to US outlet?

Super Chimp said:
Same inquiry as me. Thanks for those links by the way.
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Thing is would the USB cable that comes with the note (designed for computers) be suitable in carrying 1000mAh?
I heard that USB cables that come with phones are 0.5mAh so it won't make use of the 1000mAh...
Can anyone confirm this? If so then it's better to buy an out and out 1000mAh plus wall charger or a worldwide travel adapter.
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dennishhh said:
Would it work to get an adapter from the European plug that comes with the note to US outlet?
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That's also what I want to know.
There is no reason why it wouldn't work. It's just like going on holiday... US plugs to Euro/UK etc
So that's the route I will end up taking. But I may purchase an out and out 1000mAh wall plug anyway... even a 2000mAh...

jUsT2eXy said:
Thing is would the USB cable that comes with the note (designed for computers) be suitable in carrying 1000mAh?
I heard that USB cables that come with phones are 0.5mAh so it won't make use of the 1000mAh...
Can anyone confirm this? If so then it's better to buy an out and out 1000mAh plus wall charger or a worldwide travel adapter.
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I am 20000000% sure it can such a low current.
( Just think , would samsung bundle a cable that does not support the charger )

drgopoos said:
I can confirm that SGS2 charger works on note. However charging is slow ( its 0.7 A )
However the note charger ( 1.0 A) charges faster
dont have a 2 A charger to test but I would say that it would be the same speed as 1 A charger.
If we want faster charging, we will need the kernel to modified.
The downside would be shorter battery life.
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strange... my SGS2 came with a 1 amp ... i'm not complaining

drgopoos said:
I can confirm that SGS2 charger works on note. However charging is slow ( its 0.7 A )
However the note charger ( 1.0 A) charges faster
dont have a 2 A charger to test but I would say that it would be the same speed as 1 A charger.
If we want faster charging, we will need the kernel to modified.
The downside would be shorter battery life.
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Sounds like it might be worth getting an EU to UK plug adaptor then.

dennishhh said:
Would it work to get an adapter from the European plug that comes with the note to US outlet?
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yes it will work fine, because the charger accepts 100-220vac 50/60Hz

The Samsung power adaptor that comes with the Note is a Universal one (110 Volts - 240 Volts) and is rated at 5 Volts 1 Amp output.
If you need an alternative for some reason (or a spare).........
Personally, I am using a generic iPad mains adaptor with dual USB sockets. The device was made in China and has a total current output of up to 2 Amps. It is a also a worldwide model. I think it charges faster than the Samsung charger.
It also charges the Note when using the MHL>HDMI output. I have read some postings that the Note very slowly loses charge when the MHL>HDMI adaptor (which has to be externally powered) is in use. With this 2A adaptor, it continues to charge.
You could also try the Genuine iPad adaptor that also works worldwide and delivers a genuine 1 Amp rather than some of the cheapie models that struggle to supply that current.

Using different chargers question please

I have numerous chargers at home all of which have charged my evo, gs2, Nexus 7, etc.
Can these be used interchangeable in the Note 2 without harming the charging process?
Thanks

As long as the Voltage is the same (5V) there is no Problem. But you should have a charger at 2 Amper for optimal charging speed.

I just tried charging mine with the normal microUSB charger I use for every other phone I have had and it took 7.5 hours to charge from 5%-62%. I used the stock charger that was in the box and it charged it in 3.5-4 hours no problem. Seems like the charger in the box charges faster.

reading this thread made me curious, my NOTE II should arrive in about a week, I can't tell for myself yet, what is the A (amps) specification mentioned on the original charger?
as i come from HTC, my current chargers go up to 1 A current. witch is the double A a standard USB port will give unless crossover'd .
thanks in advance!
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in the wiki thread i found the answer, the supplied charger delivers 5 V 2 A output to the device.

WendigoNL said:
what is the A (amps) specification mentioned on the original charger?
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2A! Same as the Tab 10.1 charger.
Filling a 3100mAh battery requires some grunt.

i think even the usb cable makes a difference..
when i use the stock usb cable with the stock charger ..my s3 would charge up comparatively faster than with the other usb cable connected to the same stock charger.:rolleyes

max.android said:
i think even the usb cable makes a difference..
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It certainly does! :good:
All electrical cables have some resistance. Very low (but not zero) for quality cables, sometimes quite noticeable for thin and cheap offerings.
From Ohm's Law we know that voltage drop will be proportional to current. A cable with a resistance of just half an ohm will loose about 0.5% at 50mA. That's pretty much nothing. However, at 2000mA the loss reaches 20%.

dude use any charger, just don't use LG charger **** !!!!!

You must use the 5volt 2amp charger and cable provided or a replacement with the same output or youll either be waiting for ever for it to charge or do some damage.
I tryed using my note 1 charger rated at 1amp and guess what? It took about twice as long to charge.
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Some of my old 1 Amp chargers aren't happy at all, and will often decide to stop charging randomly.
I though it was something weird with my phone, but after switching chargers it never happened again.
- Frank

USA official charger
This are the images of the official USA charger that will comes when they release the device in USA
And yes its a 2.0A charger, so the SIII charger isn't appropriate for NoteII.
this is the kind of charger used in Canada, USA, and Latin America, i bought this NoteII in Mexico from an authorized Samsung provider, of course factory unlocked 710usd, like 10,900mxn.

Has anyone tried a 3A charger? Just wondering if this would speed up charging even more than the standard 2A charger.

mcdill the pig said:
Has anyone tried a 3A charger? Just wondering if this would speed up charging even more than the standard 2A charger.
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No, it won't speed it up. It's what the device takes from a charger, and not what a charger can potentially supply. If the device's charging circuit is spec'd for up to 2A current, that's what it will suck out of a charger, not more. You can connect a 30A lab power supply, and it will still be the same 2A (or less) input. To speed up the charging process, you need to mod the charging circuit of the device itself.

Charger recommendation thread

Hey Everyone,
It's become kinda obvious now that i really need to change out all my old 1A chargers for 2A chargers now.
The one that comes with the phone is nice - if I didn't need the adapter to go with it. Now it's huge and chunk.
I'd like a pretty small charger, like the wonderful 1A TC U260 I got with my mytouch 4g.
I'm considering the following:
PowerGen Dual USB 2A 10W Car charger:
http://www.amzn.com/gp/product/B006...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B006SU0SX0
PowerGen Dual Port Travel Wall Charger
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-Travel-Charger-Samsung-included/dp/B0073FE1F0/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk
Griffin GC23139 PowerJolt Dual car charger
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-GC231...e=UTF8&qid=1349479987&sr=1-1&keywords=GC23139
(I really liked their dual mini which I used for a long time)
Any recommendations?

That first wall charger looks like something I'd buy. The charger and adapter I got from handtec is just so huge and ugly
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How about the old HP touchpad chargers. IIRC those are 2a chargers. And they are cheap
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I bought this one. Have not recieved it yet but looks good on paper.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=170905466556
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This is kinda related to this thread
Can I use another USB cable with the original note 2 charger and still get 2A from it? I feel like the USB cables for my sgs2 fit better in my note 2 than the one that comes with it.

none of those car chargers will work if you plan on using the phone
ChodTheWacko said:
Hey Everyone,
It's become kinda obvious now that i really need to change out all my old 1A chargers for 2A chargers now.
The one that comes with the phone is nice - if I didn't need the adapter to go with it. Now it's huge and chunk.
I'd like a pretty small charger, like the wonderful 1A TC U260 I got with my mytouch 4g.
I'm considering the following:
PowerGen Dual USB 2A 10W Car charger:
PowerGen Dual Port Travel Wall Charger
Griffin GC23139 PowerJolt Dual car charger
(I really liked their dual mini which I used for a long time)
Any recommendations?
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I have done a lot of research on this. If it is compatible with ANY apple products then it will not charge with your cable due to the USB standard not being the same. You will have to either mod the product or the cable to get the full 2a charge. Plus I believe the Powergen and the griffin are only 2a total output so if you are charging 2 devices it will only be 1a and 1a ports. You need to look for a 4a total output. I have yet to find any that work. If anyone can find one please let me know. Charging with a 1a charge and using a GPS you will lose power as it does not charge fast enough. You need a full 2a. p.s. had to remove the outside links because I havent posted 10x yet.

yankees177 said:
If it is compatible with ANY apple products then it will not charge with your cable due to the USB standard not being the same.
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This is not quite true.
I believe Apple only has high speed charging if you don't use an 'apple' USB port, similar to how you don't get high speed charging if you use a USB data cable versus a charging cable.
To be 100% I don't understand how it works exactly.
I can tell you, however, the following:
1) My Griffin charger happily charged my galaxy note even going full blast (GPS/bluetooth/screen on), and I bought some iphone chargers to help my friends out, and they charged their phones (slowly) with my charger too.
2) The powergen 10W charger I put above also happily (and quickly) charges my Note II going full blast.
It actually has a different 'Apple' vs 'non apple' USB port. Non-apple stuff may not charge in the apple slot, but that's not a big deal to me. I have only one phone. My iphone friends are usually the ones running out of power anyway, so it's kind of nice one side is applely.
- Frank

to the OP, try this:
http://www.amzn.com/Mediabridge-Hig...&qid=1351550361&sr=1-12&keywords=powergen+3.1
then get a charging cable:
http://www.amzn.com/Naztech-Micro-U...1351550441&sr=1-2&keywords=usb+charging+cable
or if you have an extra cable lying around, mod it. See this post to get a better idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22546114&postcount=1
Thread linked for reference:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1686971

I have many 2a carchargers that worked great with a gs3 even an iPad that won't provide enough juice to the note to actually charge it while doing intensive tasks like mhl out in the car.
if anyone finds a car charger that actually works post it out we need a fast charge custom kernel.
I have a thread in the general note Sprint forum thatwe are discussing this as well and it seems no charger will work but an adapter I'm waiting on May

what about this?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00845NI8E/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
dual 2A port car charger and comes with a Free MicroUSB cable that can handle faster charging. I ordered on so we'll see

peekeesh said:
to the OP, try this:
http://www.amzn.com/Mediabridge-Hig...&qid=1351550361&sr=1-12&keywords=powergen+3.1
This appears, from the reviews, to be an "apple"ish charger and doesn't work well with android devices.
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Would this work?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=150928933202

yankees177 said:
I have done a lot of research on this. If it is compatible with ANY apple products then it will not charge with your cable due to the USB standard not being the same. You will have to either mod the product or the cable to get the full 2a charge. Plus I believe the Powergen and the griffin are only 2a total output so if you are charging 2 devices it will only be 1a and 1a ports. You need to look for a 4a total output. I have yet to find any that work. If anyone can find one please let me know. Charging with a 1a charge and using a GPS you will lose power as it does not charge fast enough. You need a full 2a. p.s. had to remove the outside links because I havent posted 10x yet.
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Im looking for 2A on each port too wall charger and only finds these.
Car charger:
http://www.amazon.com/Qmadix-QM-DMCH4-2-AP-WH-Twin-Tablet-Charging/dp/B008AGMO7S/ref=pd_cp_e_1
Wall charger, but thinks it divides 4A on each port?
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/650723185/UL_Approval_4A_USB_Charger_For.html
Wall charger:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/efbe/#tabs
Why the heck are all for ipads, iphone and no EU plug.

I got an amazon branded 2A single usb charger about 6 months ago for another phone. It charges my Note2 quick. Sorry no links...
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What about this please? Need input.
i.Sound Portable Charger
Has 16,000 mah
Input: 12V 1A
Output: ''5V 2.1A on each connector 2.5 A together''
I charge a number of things on here...
A friend has me a bit confused saying this could damage the charging mechanisms of the phone cause it has too much voltage?
Any input please?
Thanks

One Car Charger that works
Hello,
Whether a charger works or not depends on what DCP (Direct Charge Port) modes it supports.
I suspect the GN2 uses Shorted DCP, where the USB data lines (D+ and D-) are shorted. Apple chargers sense 2.4Vdc on these lines to allow the charger to ramp to full current. Asus and some Sammy TABs use 1.2Vdc to enable full current. This is to distinguish real USB ports from chargers, and to "encourage" you to use the manufacturer's provided charger.
It would be nice if someone can confirm what DCP mode the GN2 actually uses. Not that the charger manufacturer's publish what modes they support.... However, the charger IC manufacturer's (TI, Maxim) are beginning to get good at DCP autodetection which is going to make it much easier for us consumers.
As far as finding chargers that work,
I bought a 2.1A dual car charger at Walmart, model "i-xt" that works well with the GN2 and is listed as "on AC" when connected. Implying full current.
Cheers,
-Plaz
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rockky said:
i.Sound Portable Charger
Has 16,000 mah
Input: 12V 1A
Output: ''5V 2.1A on each connector 2.5 A together''
I charge a number of things on here...
A friend has me a bit confused saying this could damage the charging mechanisms of the phone cause it has too much voltage?
Any input please?
Thanks
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You don't have to worry about your phone being damaged. Phones have built-in protection for over-voltage and over current. 5Vdc is proper voltage for USB devices anyway (Output 5V, as listed in the specs). The catch is if the phone allows full current charging. That depends on the DCP mode of the charger. I'm not positive what mode the GN2 truly supports. If you already have the charger, you can determine if full current is being used by checking under settings -> battery while connected to the charger. If you see the "On AC" verbiage, the phone is in full current mode. If not, the charger is limiting to 500ma and acts like a standard USB port. You phone will still charge, but it will take longer.
Clear as mud?
Cheers,
-Plaz

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0044E7MNG/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
Would this work?
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Thanks
QUOTE=Plazmid;33523324]Hello,
Whether a charger works or not depends on what DCP (Direct Charge Port) modes it supports.
I suspect the GN2 uses Shorted DCP, where the USB data lines (D+ and D-) are shorted. Apple chargers sense 2.4Vdc on these lines to allow the charger to ramp to full current. Asus and some Sammy TABs use 1.2Vdc to enable full current. This is to distinguish real USB ports from chargers, and to "encourage" you to use the manufacturer's provided charger.
It would be nice if someone can confirm what DCP mode the GN2 actually uses. Not that the charger manufacturer's publish what modes they support.... However, the charger IC manufacturer's (TI, Maxim) are beginning to get good at DCP autodetection which is going to make it much easier for us consumers.
As far as finding chargers that work,
I bought a 2.1A dual car charger at Walmart, model "i-xt" that works well with the GN2 and is listed as "on AC" when connected. Implying full current.
Cheers,
-Plaz
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You don't have to worry about your phone being damaged. Phones have built-in protection for over-voltage and over current. 5Vdc is proper voltage for USB devices anyway (Output 5V, as listed in the specs). The catch is if the phone allows full current charging. That depends on the DCP mode of the charger. I'm not positive what mode the GN2 truly supports. If you already have the charger, you can determine if full current is being used by checking under settings -> battery while connected to the charger. If you see the "On AC" verbiage, the phone is in full current mode. If not, the charger is limiting to 500ma and acts like a standard USB port. You phone will still charge, but it will take longer.
Clear as mud?
Cheers,
-Plaz[/QUOTE]

I bought this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005AWO8V0/
It's 2A and works great. I like that the cord is attached, so no losing a USB cable or anything. Also has an integrated USB for other devices.

Plazmid said:
Hello,
Whether a charger works or not depends on what DCP (Direct Charge Port) modes it supports.
I suspect the GN2 uses Shorted DCP, where the USB data lines (D+ and D-) are shorted. Apple chargers sense 2.4Vdc on these lines to allow the charger to ramp to full current. Asus and some Sammy TABs use 1.2Vdc to enable full current. This is to distinguish real USB ports from chargers, and to "encourage" you to use the manufacturer's provided charger.
It would be nice if someone can confirm what DCP mode the GN2 actually uses. Not that the charger manufacturer's publish what modes they support.... However, the charger IC manufacturer's (TI, Maxim) are beginning to get good at DCP autodetection which is going to make it much easier for us consumers.
As far as finding chargers that work,
I bought a 2.1A dual car charger at Walmart, model "i-xt" that works well with the GN2 and is listed as "on AC" when connected. Implying full current.
Cheers,
-Plaz
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You don't have to worry about your phone being damaged. Phones have built-in protection for over-voltage and over current. 5Vdc is proper voltage for USB devices anyway (Output 5V, as listed in the specs). The catch is if the phone allows full current charging. That depends on the DCP mode of the charger. I'm not positive what mode the GN2 truly supports. If you already have the charger, you can determine if full current is being used by checking under settings -> battery while connected to the charger. If you see the "On AC" verbiage, the phone is in full current mode. If not, the charger is limiting to 500ma and acts like a standard USB port. You phone will still charge, but it will take longer.
Clear as mud?
Cheers,
-Plaz
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So I understand the shorting D+/D- internally or via charging cable to enable "AC" charging. I understand that Apple and apparently Sammy/Asus use voltage on those lines to signal the requirement for full current. Here's my question: if my Note2 is connected to brand X charger and it says AC charging in the settings under battery, does that mean I am theoretically pulling the max current of that brand X charger. This of course assumes the battery is empty enough, temperatures of the battery and charger are low enough, etc...
What I'm getting at is does having a shorted charger or cable with an android on an iCharger give us full iPower? Gawd that sounds horrible doesn't it! :silly: Or, if you're getting "AC" from the iCharger is it really only 1.1A or 1.6A (just tossing those numbers out there) vice the 2.1A it would be charging an iPad at?

pls keep ur n10 charger in safe place.

Last nite, I played dead trigger until battery warning indicated 4%.
But I still keep playing and suddenly the screen went black.
I think the battery is totally dried out at that time. So I used the following
charger but failed to charge even after 10min. Here's the charger:
1. 3rd party 5V 3A charger,liteon brand.
2. old nokia 0.5A charger.
3. original samsung note2 charger.
all those 3 charger works normall on my n10 before last nite.
and suddenly i think maybe i can try out the original charger of n10.
And it works!
So i wonder if samsung or google put special charger on the adapter?
Before we know anything furthur.pls put ur n10 charger in safe place.

I think most tablet chargers output a voltage of 12v. That might of kicked your battery back to life.

xxKamikazexx said:
I think most tablet chargers output a voltage of 12v. That might of kicked your battery back to life.
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I've confirm the voltage of my n10 adapter. Which printed "5V 2A".

It probably just needed a certain amount of minimum battery voltage to function and show charging. I doubt if the OEM power supply is special in any way. The charging circuit is really inside the N10.

wptski said:
It probably just needed a certain amount of minimum battery voltage to function and show charging. I doubt if the OEM power supply is special in any way. The charging circuit is really inside the N10.
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when i plug in the non-n10 charger, even after 10min,n10 is not able to boot. Only flaahing the battery charging symbol for 1 sec.
when i plug in the original charger, n10 can be boot instantly.
thats why i think it is very weird about the original charger. but other chargers still works well when n10 battery is NOT completely dried out.

matika said:
when i plug in the non-n10 charger, even after 10min,n10 is not able to boot. Only flaahing the battery charging symbol for 1 sec.
when i plug in the original charger, n10 can be boot instantly.
thats why i think it is very weird about the original charger. but other chargers still works well when n10 battery is NOT completely dried out.
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Yeah, that is very strange indeed. It does draw in the 1800mA range from the battery during boot up. Are you using the same micro-USB cord all the time? It was reported that there are big differences in charging rate with different brands of cords.

This was covered in another thread recently.
Basicially the Samsung chargers have 2 pins shorted together to get full charging power of around 1.5A with the n10. Using other chargers will get you around 500ma output.
My guess is if you left your tablet on the "other" chargers overnight it would come on just fine. They simply don't output enough juice to power the tablet when the battery is that low.

matika said:
when i plug in the non-n10 charger, even after 10min,n10 is not able to boot. Only flaahing the battery charging symbol for 1 sec.
when i plug in the original charger, n10 can be boot instantly.
thats why i think it is very weird about the original charger. but other chargers still works well when n10 battery is NOT completely dried out.
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Had you left the other chargers on long enough, the tablet would have booted fine. I've run into this. I have an old(er) Samsung Tab 2 10.1 charger I use with my N10 (now along with a Pogo cable) and my N10 charges rapidly. That, coupled with the two wires shorted out in Samy's setup for the larger amp's.....also, in my job, I work with other chargers all the time and use them all the time across multi platforms, to include my N10, and it charges fine (albeit much more slowly).

swany6mm said:
Had you left the other chargers on long enough, the tablet would have booted fine. I've run into this. I have an old(er) Samsung Tab 2 10.1 charger I use with my N10 (now along with a Pogo cable) and my N10 charges rapidly. That, coupled with the two wires shorted out in Samy's setup for the larger amp's.....also, in my job, I work with other chargers all the time and use them all the time across multi platforms, to include my N10, and it charges fine (albeit much more slowly).
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My charger(PS) for my Dell Streak 7 works just fine with the N10. This all makes sense except for the fact that the poster stated using a: 3rd party 5V 3A charger,liteon brand which didn't work.

wptski said:
My charger(PS) for my Dell Streak 7 works just fine with the N10. This all makes sense except for the fact that the poster stated using a: 3rd party 5V 3A charger,liteon brand which didn't work.
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Should still work fine. Voltage is the same and the device will only draw as much amperage as needed. May have something to do with the circuitry in the charger? It may have been bad. As long as you don't supply more volts you are OK. More amps is also OK. Not enough amps will lead to burning up the charger unless the device is smart enough to realize its on a low amp charger (like the n10) and kick down so as not to over draw (ie - over drawing from the USB port which is a .5amp (500mAmp) or 1amp (1000mAmp)...someone correct me on the number here please)
The whole reason manufacturers tell you not to use someone else's charger is so you don't plug in, say, a 12 volt charger into a 5 volt item. That would pop something. That or some cheap charger poorly built could allow "dirty" power through causing problems. Both issues voiding warranties

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but depending on the usage of the tablet, you might not be able to charge it quicker than the power usage. For me, if I'm playing a demanding game at 1.7Ghz and max brightness, neither USB or Pogo can charge the tablet, and battery still drops (slower, but still drops).

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Should still work fine. Voltage is the same and the device will only draw as much amperage as needed. May have something to do with the circuitry in the charger? It may have been bad. As long as you don't supply more volts you are OK. More amps is also OK. Not enough amps will lead to burning up the charger unless the device is smart enough to realize its on a low amp charger (like the n10) and kick down so as not to over draw (ie - over drawing from the USB port which is a .5amp (500mAmp) or 1amp (1000mAmp)...someone correct me on the number here please)
The whole reason manufacturers tell you not to use someone else's charger is so you don't plug in, say, a 12 volt charger into a 5 volt item. That would pop something. That or some cheap charger poorly built could allow "dirty" power through causing problems. Both issues voiding warranties
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Never seen anything burn up because of low amperage., power or watts generate heat and power(watts)=voltage x current.
Did you ever see a PS(charger is inside the N10) with a USB port that supplies anything but 5V? I haven't.

Current (amps) does the charging.
No USB charger will provide anything more than 5.1 volts. If the charging block has a USB plug look at the rating. Amperage for smaller devices may be 1a or even less. Newer big smartphones have bigger batteries and need more current to charge. My old Thunderbolt charger is 1A, the charger Motorola provides for my Maxx HD is 1.5A, the Samsung charger for my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is a 2 amp charger, so is the charger for the iPad that some frickin' jerk ripped off from my house. The Xoom escaped that problem by having a separate charge plug, not using the USB system, it 12 volts at 1.5 amps. See the pattern? A tablet of any kind has an even bigger battery and needs even more current to charge. The reason the N10 may lose charge even when plugged in is that the charger can't deliver the current needed to run the device and charge the battery simultaneously.
As I see it, Samsung and Google need to supply a slightly higher amperage power block to compensate for the use/charge balance problem. Our solution would be to turn it off and charge the device every night or even leave it plugged in when not in use.
Another thing is the surface area for current transfer. The USB points are tiny, the POGO Pins, dedicated to charging would be able to handle more current because they have more surface area.
Any one who knows better may correct me, I just ordered an N10 today from Google so my information here is what I have read here and what I know from years in the electronics field..

ongre12 said:
No USB charger will provide anything more than 5.1 volts. If the charging block has a USB plug look at the rating. Amperage for smaller devices may be 1a or even less. Newer big smartphones have bigger batteries and need more current to charge. My old Thunderbolt charger is 1A, the charger Motorola provides for my Maxx HD is 1.5A, the Samsung charger for my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 is a 2 amp charger, so is the charger for the iPad that some frickin' jerk ripped off from my house. The Xoom escaped that problem by having a separate charge plug, not using the USB system, it 12 volts at 1.5 amps. See the pattern? A tablet of any kind has an even bigger battery and needs even more current to charge. The reason the N10 may lose charge even when plugged in is that the charger can't deliver the current needed to run the device and charge the battery simultaneously.
As I see it, Samsung and Google need to supply a slightly higher amperage power block to compensate for the use/charge balance problem. Our solution would be to turn it off and charge the device every night or even leave it plugged in when not in use.
Another thing is the surface area for current transfer. The USB points are tiny, the POGO Pins, dedicated to charging would be able to handle more current because they have more surface area.
Any one who knows better may correct me, I just ordered an N10 today from Google so my information here is what I have read here and what I know from years in the electronics field..
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You don't need more current to charge a bigger battery, it's all about how long it will take to charge to full.
Some have stated that they've seen a 3A battery drain with certain games. The 9Ah battery would last approx. 3 hours which exceeds the max rate of the charging circuit and the PS. Even on a fully charged battery at that rate doesn't last that long.

AFAIK for any tablet to be able to draw 2A from any 5V charger (that can supply the needed amperage) the data pins (middle two pins from the use cable) have to be at 2.5V. Otherwise even if the charger is with correct specifications 5V/2A the tablet might not charge at all, or charge at a lower rate.
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I forget the actual brand/model of the actual charging chip but if you poke around in the N10 files you can find it but it's specs are list as 2.5A max but N10's code limits it to 2.1A. This isn't the PS wall wart commonly called the "charger".

The recommended charging current for any lithium ion or lithium polymer is 0.7C. What that actually means is a current 0.7 x max capacity in mAh. For most phones e.g. my Galaxy Note 2 with a capacity of 3100 mAh this means a current at about 1.7A.
The battery Nexus 10, on the other hand, could very well be charged at a whooping 6.3A current.
In USB Battery Charging Specification 1.2 the maximum current a USB port can supply for charging purposes can be as high as 5A.
With the Perseus kernel for Note 2 you can actually specify the max limit for how much current the phone will draw from any charger.
So in theory.. it should be possible to charge the Nexus 10 with a 5V 5-6,3A charger.. and that would probably be very quick!
For the record: I havn't seen many (any?) chargers with more that 2.3A

MartiniGM said:
The recommended charging current for any lithium ion or lithium polymer is 0.7C. What that actually means is a current 0.7 x max capacity in mAh. For most phones e.g. my Galaxy Note 2 with a capacity of 3100 mAh this means a current at about 1.7A.
The battery Nexus 10, on the other hand, could very well be charged at a whooping 6.3A current.
In USB Battery Charging Specification 1.2 the maximum current a USB port can supply for charging purposes can be as high as 5A.
With the Perseus kernel for Note 2 you can actually specify the max limit for how much current the phone will draw from any charger.
So in theory.. it should be possible to charge the Nexus 10 with a 5V 5-6,3A charger.. and that would probably be very quick!
For the record: I havn't seen many (any?) chargers with more that 2.3A
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Sure the charging rate is way under what it should be but as they use larger and larger capacity cells the only solution is a removable cell to charge by other means.

Aukey Quick Charge 2.0

Hi! I bought a wall charger from Aukey that allow to charge up to 3 devices at the same time, what is great since I'll be able to charge the phone and the tablet at the same time! According to the manufacturer the charger is able to adapt the output to the needs of the devices! So my question is, can I use this charger to charge the GWR without damage the watch, since the output of the original charger is only 0.85A!

I think it should be fine. I have used my charger a couple of times without issue for my GWR and now my Huawei
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I've been using an Aukey quick charger for a month now and no problems whatsoever. Normal charging times obviously (blisteringly fast on S6 however)

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I've been using an Aukey quick charger for a month now and no problems whatsoever. Normal charging times obviously (blisteringly fast on S6 however)
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So I don't need to hurry about the output current, or in other words, get the watch too much warm and reducing the battery life?

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So I don't need to hurry about the output current, or in other words, get the watch too much warm and reducing the battery life?
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It is completely fine. The charging circuits of these devices (watches, phones, tablets etc) takes only what it is allowed by the limitations set to the charging IC circuit when supplied with 5v power over USB. I have an USB amp meter and the GWR barely uses half of the original chargers 0.85a capability. I've used my OnePlus One charger (a high quality 2A charger) to charge my watch as well occasionally, which also charges my Nexus 7 2013 regularly and that never takes more than 1A~ from this as well.

I've been using a Aukey Charger for a couple of months and no problem so far. The current regulation is supposed to be made by the device, not by the charger anyway ...
For those who wonder, I also checked if our G Watch R has QC 2.0, but it doesn't. It still charges at 5V on a QC 2.0 slot.