Learning to root again - Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello People!
I haven't rooted a phone since my HTC HD2 from 2009. Now I have had the Samsung Note 5 international version for a while which doesn't have samsung pay so I'm planning to root it now. I wanted to know whats the difference between custom roms and kernels. What is the best custom rom for the Note 5. Also I have been reading a lot about people having trouble because they bricked their device which is making be not want to root. Also I don't see that many custom roms for the Note 5 as I saw for the HTC HD2 back then. I'm looking for something that overlays on top of touchwiz because I like touchwiz but I want more functionality for example only stock apps work with split screen but I want every app working with split screen and same thing for pop-up view.
Thanks for the help guys and girls.

Mikeali_786 said:
Hello People!
I haven't rooted a phone since my HTC HD2 from 2009. Now I have had the Samsung Note 5 international version for a while which doesn't have samsung pay so I'm planning to root it now. I wanted to know whats the difference between custom roms and kernels. What is the best custom rom for the Note 5. Also I have been reading a lot about people having trouble because they bricked their device which is making be not want to root. Also I don't see that many custom roms for the Note 5 as I saw for the HTC HD2 back then. I'm looking for something that overlays on top of touchwiz because I like touchwiz but I want more functionality for example only stock apps work with split screen but I want every app working with split screen and same thing for pop-up view.
Thanks for the help guys and girls.
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Read and use the search button.
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Brava27 said:
Read and use the search button.
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Nice answer mate.

Jed Repiedad said:
Nice answer mate.
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That's how I learned [emoji12]
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What should I know before I get this?

Hey all, I'm seriously considering purchasing this device and I think i should understand more about root on it before I get it. I'm currently using the AT&T HTC One X (evita, dual-core) and I've got a very good understanding of the Android OS and rooting in general, and for HTC devices, but not a grasp on Samsung devices. I've rooted and ROM'd a few in the past for friends, but I still am not 100% on them. So, coming from and HTC device and knowing a lot about android in general my main questions are...
1. How/If there is a way to return to stock android firmware (like HTC's RUU)
2. Is download mode just essentially bootloader mode? HTC does it differently.
3. Any commonly known tweaks/tricks that someone coming from a different company would not know about?
4. Anything else I should know?
Thanks in advance!
Seems the Note community isn't too friendly, I don't have much info for you because I too Come from HTC. I was on Sprint and the forums were much more active / friendly. The Note3 has root, but you can do little More than remove bloat and run ad blocker apps.
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RollTribe said:
Hey all, I'm seriously considering purchasing this device and I think i should understand more about root on it before I get it. I'm currently using the AT&T HTC One X (evita, dual-core) and I've got a very good understanding of the Android OS and rooting in general, and for HTC devices, but not a grasp on Samsung devices. I've rooted and ROM'd a few in the past for friends, but I still am not 100% on them. So, coming from and HTC device and knowing a lot about android in general my main questions are...
1. How/If there is a way to return to stock android firmware (like HTC's RUU)
2. Is download mode just essentially bootloader mode? HTC does it differently.
3. Any commonly known tweaks/tricks that someone coming from a different company would not know about?
4. Anything else I should know?
Thanks in advance!
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Hey, I dont see why there was a comment about this forum being unfriendly. I think so far its one of the best out there. Guys are real appreciative to the devs for giving us root, questions get answered without unneeded comments etc.
To answer your questions i dabbled with several HTC phones and the RUU system was good. Odin is good too but a bit more complicated. There are tutorials which can help though
Like mentioned before some people have had build quality issues but thats gonna be hit or miss like any device. Personally mine hasnt had any issues, though i managed to scratch the bottom of my screen already haha purely my fault though.
Biggest thing coming from HTC is Samsung wont unlock your bootloader like HTC. I really miss the way HTC treats ya like a big boy/girl and let you decide for yourself.
One last thing you should know is this will be the best device youve ever had! Have fun with it! Any other questions lemme know
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What else do we really need? I mean you can add tons of stuff via xposed and wanum.. and people are working on themes. Even thought touchwiz blows there's no point in owning this device without the s-pen apps.
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[Q] Galaxy S5 Active

So I just got the AT&T S5 Active, the best comparison I could find is on GSM Arena, and its the not exact chipset label, slightly different so I'm hesitant to try putting a rom on it.
Any dev's care to try and help me out to figure out if a S5 ROM will work, without actually trying to put one on, and bricking my phone?
I'm not sure how the process works but I'm sure there is a test or something I can run without bricking my phone on a first attempt to put on a rom.
Bump!
Anyone else on here have a S5 Active that would like to know the same?
I have an S5 Active as well and want to put a custom ROM too. I really like the Xtrestolite ROM.
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I have an S5 Active as well and want to put a custom ROM too. I really like the Xtrestolite ROM.
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Hello!!
I have the s5 active, our bootloaders are locked just like the S5 ATT/VZW. You can install safestrap and flash any ROM that will work on the ATT S5 only. Xposed framework works, safestrap works, black theme works " need a few files from the international variant for black dialer/incallui to work right. I left mine stock, rooted via towel root, de bloated all the junk, black themed and Xposed framework tweaks. I just find stuff in the S5 threads and if I like I try lol..
Good looking out man.
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yes! for the active
I'd love a rom for the S5 Active, i love mine and want more customization, maybe by CM
Always loved the CM ROMS!
mxracer8 said:
Hello!!
I have the s5 active, our bootloaders are locked just like the S5 ATT/VZW. You can install safestrap and flash any ROM that will work on the ATT S5 only. Xposed framework works, safestrap works, black theme works " need a few files from the international variant for black dialer/incallui to work right. I left mine stock, rooted via towel root, de bloated all the junk, black themed and Xposed framework tweaks. I just find stuff in the S5 threads and if I like I try lol..
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How about cyanogen? I'm interested in installing something other than TouchWiz.
6rey6oose said:
How about cyanogen? I'm interested in installing something other than TouchWiz.
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Now that I've been messing with this thing for a while, I'd be ok with just debloating this baby.
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It's alright but I want to be able to install android l when it comes out not two three years down the road when Samsung gets to it. And be able to use Xposed and get my 8 shortcuts back on my lockscreen. The heart rate monitor and the ability to take a double picture and funny noises while unlocking are all cute features but I need functional not cute features. So am I going to have to return my device for a different brand?
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It's alright but I want to be able to install android l when it comes out not two three years down the road when Samsung gets to it. And be able to use Xposed and get my 8 shortcuts back on my lockscreen. The heart rate monitor and the ability to take a double picture and funny noises while unlocking are all cute features but I need functional not cute features. So am I going to have to return my device for a different brand?
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You lost me at, install android...
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This xposed?
http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.robv.android.xposed.installer
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Is there not an official sub-forum/thread anywhere for this phone? I don't have the phone yet but have been searching to find some sort of development to decide if I should buy one. I really like this phone but no development is a deal breaker for me. I know this phone isn't at the top of the popularity list and that's probably why. My interest peaked when towel root made its debut and I've been itching to buy one ever since.
Can anyone else confirm that most/all at&t s5 goodies also work for the s5 active?
cjacks519 said:
Is there not an official sub-forum/thread anywhere for this phone? I don't have the phone yet but have been searching to find some sort of development to decide if I should buy one. I really like this phone but no development is a deal breaker for me. I know this phone isn't at the top of the popularity list and that's probably why. My interest peaked when towel root made its debut and I've been itching to buy one ever since.
Can anyone else confirm that most/all at&t s5 goodies also work for the s5 active?
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What kind of goodies?
The heart rate monitor, yes.
The finger scan unlock, no. It was part of the water proofing
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mxracer8 said:
Hello!!
I have the s5 active, our bootloaders are locked just like the S5 ATT/VZW. You can install safestrap and flash any ROM that will work on the ATT S5 only. Xposed framework works, safestrap works, black theme works " need a few files from the international variant for black dialer/incallui to work right. I left mine stock, rooted via towel root, de bloated all the junk, black themed and Xposed framework tweaks. I just find stuff in the S5 threads and if I like I try lol..
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These kind of goodies... Just wanted to hear other people's experiences with safestrap...s5 ROMs...etc
No such thing as s5 active roms supposedly. I haven't been keeping up with the forums for these anymore since this one is about it.
It's good enough of a phone without a rom. Battery life is good, runs great, I just want to debloat this thing of ATT/Samsung crap.
What every happened to the idea of android being open source?
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Oh and download booster would be the tits!
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A lot of questions being thrown around here.
There is no sub forum for the S5 Active, the request has been submitted but not approved.
You can flash ROMs after you root the phone by following this thread; S5 regular roms will work, just not the active button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794087
There is at least one specific S5 Active ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...m-koolkit-s5-koolactive-v1-0-0b01-07-t2809957
Download Booster detail is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785410
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You lost me at, install android...
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Android L, or whatever google choose to name any new update, Samsung and at&t take forever to update its phones and they are loaded with stuff I don't want or need. I want google edition on my phone.. Will that ever happen? Touchwiz is OK everyone has there own opinion but I only bought this very expensive device to put alternate Roms on it. Please let me know.. if I can't install slim ROM, google edition, or cm at any point in this devices life I will be returning it.
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Android L, or whatever google choose to name any new update, Samsung and at&t take forever to update its phones and they are loaded with stuff I don't want or need. I want google edition on my phone.. Will that ever happen? Touchwiz is OK everyone has there own opinion but I only bought this very expensive device to put alternate Roms on it. Please let me know.. if I can't install slim ROM, google edition, or cm at any point in this devices life I will be returning it.
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You better return it then. Our phones have a locked bootloader. Locked bootloader means no kernel which means no alternative roms that don't use the stock touchwiz kernel.
lordmorphous said:
You better return it then. Our phones have a locked bootloader. Locked bootloader means no kernel which means no alternative roms that don't use the stock touchwiz kernel.
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I think it'll be possible one day
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I am sad.

This place is dead. Generic S6 forum is not much better. We have root, but nobody is doing anything with it.
Yeah.. it's seriously making me think of switching devices. I'm used to many custom roms, unlocked bootloaders, xposed, etc.. and this isn't cutting it for me. Sure, great device but.. I'm just not feeling it.
What is it you are wanting? We have cleanrom and a few other debated options and an available framework to let you customize the crazy outta your touchwiz. As far as AOSP or CM, give it time. It's a new device, a lot of hands are on it and after some time, more options will be available. When I bought my G2 on release day, it was a month before root and another before good rom options showed up and even longer before stable rom options we're brought to the table.
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I don't understand why people buy a phone like this an expect a ton of development on it. Everyone knows AT&T locks bootloaders so there will be no AOSP ROMS for this device, especially with it packing an exynos processor. The root exploit has been patched in 5.1.1 so don't expect root unless you plan on tripping KNOX or never upgrading again. People really need to do research before they go out and buy a phone. If you need that much development, buy a nexus.
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I don't understand why people buy a phone like this an expect a ton of development on it. Everyone knows AT&T locks bootloaders so there will be no AOSP ROMS for this device, especially with it packing an exynos processor. The root exploit has been patched in 5.1.1 so don't expect root unless you plan on tripping KNOX or never upgrading again. People really need to do research before they go out and buy a phone. If you need that much development, buy a nexus.
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Exactly. I knew this going into getting another ATT phone (Active). It was either getting a phone I knew would work out of the box or getting a toaster oven with an 810 SOC. HTC and LG both failed this year IMHO and OPO2 will also be throttling back the 810 2.1 SOC. I wanted the active because of the bigger battery, but if those wanted ROMs on a S6 they should have just bought an international model outright.
I bought this phone expecting no development. The fact there's even root and roms for it is more than enough for me.
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ripper4209 said:
I bought this phone expecting no development. The fact there's even root and roms for it is more than enough for me.
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I went from a Nexus 5 (chronic flasher) to a no root Note 4 (now obviously s6) and I discovered that not having root or a million roms to flash caused almost zero issues. Having root and debloated roms on the s6 makes me completely happy. I just flashed XtraStoLite and it's awesome, even more customization and you choose only Samsung apps you want.
I haven't even rooted yet. Works fine for me. First phone I didn't root right away.
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LudoGris said:
I haven't even rooted yet. Works fine for me. First phone I didn't root right away.
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Yeah, the issues that made me feel like I absolutely had to root in the S4, S5, N4 are pretty much non issues with the S6 so I'm happy not rooting.
Yamahar6riding said:
What is it you are wanting? We have cleanrom and a few other debated options and an available framework to let you customize the crazy outta your touchwiz. As far as AOSP or CM, give it time. It's a new device, a lot of hands are on it and after some time, more options will be available. When I bought my G2 on release day, it was a month before root and another before good rom options showed up and even longer before stable rom options we're brought to the table.
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What is the available framework you speak off
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What is the available framework you speak off
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Probably the built in themer.
For everyone: when you buy a phone with a locked bootloader, you buy a phone that will have very limited development support (if a hack is found all the better, but don't count on one being found, they ain't easy to find). If you buy a Lamborghini are you going to complain you can't put the turbo you saw on your friends Mazda on it?
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JHarley17 said:
What is the available framework you speak off
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s6/general/xtrestolite-rom-att-s6-t3140354 its a universal rom and it's pretty awesome.
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Alliance Framework and soon 3minit. You just need to flash a deodex ROM and to top it off, we are now seeing that you can flash roms from the international thread. I will attempt this myself 4th of July weekend and post videos on my channel if successful.
Honestly I think it's quickly getting to the point where rooting will be an afterthought. I rooted my S6 Edge and flashed back to stock within a week.
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Alliance Framework and soon 3minit. You just need to flash a deodex ROM and to top it off, we are now seeing that you can flash roms from the international thread. I will attempt this myself 4th of July weekend and post videos on my channel if successful.
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It's not hard, most are just an Aroma installer. I'm running one and it works great. The only weird thing was the Aroma installer screen flashes while you're selecting options you want to add/remove. I have an ATT S6 as well.
Clienterror said:
It's not hard, most are just an Aroma installer. I'm running one and it works great. The only weird thing was the Aroma installer screen flashes while you're selecting options you want to add/remove. I have an ATT S6 as well.
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So I can Flash the deodexed ROM linked earlier with Flashfire then add the alliance framework with flashfire too? Still Kinda new to this(Had the s4 rooted and never flashed anything till after getting the s5 which was rooted with a custom ROM) and it seems like its a different method every phone. Im trying to read up on the different threads but dont have much time usually. Need to take a day and figure it out. Thanks for the help.
I'm not asking for cm or aosp (neither appeal to me), and neither do i want some shoddy kludged together community rom.
What I'd like is to see something like Xposed,,which works without issue on a completely stock+root install.
I've been doing this since the G1 days, and i just dont have the time or patience for it anymore. I have a hobby that to me, is far more satisfying and fun than jacking around with phones.
All i really want is to remove the volume warning and the redundant wifi notification.
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I'm not asking for cm or aosp (neither appeal to me), and neither do i want some shoddy kludged together community rom.
What I'd like is to see something like Xposed,,which works without issue on a completely stock+root install.
I've been doing this since the G1 days, and i just dont have the time or patience for it anymore. I have a hobby that to me, is far more satisfying and fun than jacking around with phones.
All i really want is to remove the volume warning and the redundant wifi notification.
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Xposed is in alpha or pre alpha for TW devices. So it is in the works, just a ton of bugs and the install is pretty in depth at the moment.
Don't know about the volume warning, but the WiFi notification is easy if rooted. Get the CSC editor and search for WiFi. Blank this value and reboot.
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I have up on roms (TW or AOSP/CM) based a long time ago due to glitches and bugs. The last thing I ever did with root was adaway but now many all developers and websites are getting content past adaway and ABP, so no point there even.
I had a problem with my Tab S not taking the lollipop update after rooting then un-rooting which kind of soured me it in general. I got it flashed back to stock at bestbuy and updated, but settings menu still shows status as Custom even though download mode shows Knox 0x0

Very, Very, VERY stupid question

Hi al, i have a stupid question for you; i'm not a cook/rom mixer, i don't have any experience with this world.... I see the note 4/edge has the same processor and gpu of our nexus 6, anyone has tried to port any sort of rom touchwiz based or is impossible at all?
lopanedino said:
Hi al, i have a stupid question for you; i'm not a cook/rom mixer, i don't have any experience with this world.... I see the note 4/edge has the same processor and gpu of our nexus 6, anyone has tried to port any sort of rom touchwiz based or is impossible at all?
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nobody wants touchwiz on a nexus, thats why people buy nexus phones..
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nobody wants touchwiz on a nexus, thats why people buy nexus phones..
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lol.... in the notification panel of my phone i have read: you were killed by simms22...
ok.... the question are very stupid :silly:
lopanedino said:
lol.... in the notification panel of my phone i have read: you were killed by simms22...
ok.... the question are very stupid :silly:
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i killed myself??? eek!
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in reality, some people tried to port it to the n6, but gave up. then others tried porting it, and then they gave up. there are a very few who would like to see it, but not many, or enough.
Touchwiz on a Nexus ? That sounds more like a punishment rather than benefit.
the title of this thread says it all......
But that is the beauty of having a Nexus... Make a mistake (like putting Touchwiz on a Nexus) and fix it easily.
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touchwiz+knox= android heaven ?
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Touchwiz no no! Many newcomers here switched to Nexus to not deal with touchwiz/knox. It's too laggy & unoptimized. This week the vzw note 4 finally had its bootloader unlocked. Which is a huge feat. Everyone there is thrilled to finally run cm13 to ditch touchwiz. I personally ditched touchwiz the day 4.3/knox was introduced. Knox=devil
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Touchwiz sounds like something a pervert would do.
No thanks.
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Touchwiz sounds like something a pervert would do.
No thanks.
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lol.... i haved a s4 and a note edge.... the first thing when i caught the s4: install the rom google play edition, and with the edge..... cm..... mine was only a question to know the potentiality of our nexus :fingers-crossed: (xcuse me for my english but i'm from genoa)
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lol.... i haved a s4 and a note edge.... the first thing when i caught the s4: install the rom google play edition, and with the edge..... cm..... mine was only a question to know the potentiality of our nexus :fingers-crossed: (xcuse me for my english but i'm from genoa)
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I had the S4 before the Nexus. I didn't realize how difficult it is to use Samsung vs. Nexus. For example, the S4 has many different varients like S4 Sprint, ATT, Verizon, etc... there were several times where I flashed the wrong or incorrectly labeled ROM which was for another varient. Then using ODIN, etc, etc.....too much of a headache. Plus the S7 has a locked bootloader across the board so Samsung pretty much has put an end to any type of custom anything actually.
I wouldn't mind the touchwiz multi or floating windows hahaha
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Touchwiz sounds like something a pervert would do.
No thanks.
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He said he is new so common guys, no essentially no one has but you can get modifications on android and themes via a cyanogenmod rom to make it very touchwiz like if thats your thing. You have to stick to the roms listed for your phone base tho as even tho hardware is the same the bios programming and some internals are not indentical and would cause you to brick the device aka turn it into a paper weight, Best of luck and ask on the thread of the rom you look into eventually and there will always be someone willing to help.
No such thing as a stupid question when it comes to Android, when you're working with such a flexible system that has such a HUGE dev scene, anything goes. I'd say it was a decent question, however, like everyone else said, why would you want that on a Nexus? To each their own I guess, but a personal thought: Isn't touchwiz framework and all closed source?
The amount of code added to Android by Samsung, LG, and HTC is so extensive they usually will have a second framework just for the skin. However, simply removing that second framework doesn't get you a stock Android appearance. It simply gets you a device that doesn't function. That's because while the second framework is the obvious location for much of the added code, all the other stock Android files have snippets of Touchwiz code added to them that refer to that second framework. Independent of executive meddling from the carriers, the added code is the reason Samsung takes so long to provide updates to their devices.
Their devices are far more responsive when you throw an AOSP-based firmware on them, since there's no Touchwiz overhead. That's assuming of course that you don't have a locked bootloader.

Stock android

Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
Useless on a Note !
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abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
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By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
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I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
I'm just adding my sentiment. If you want stock Android, get a Pixel device or Motorola or Nokia or almost anything else. You buy a Samsung device for the features they add. If you don't like or use those features, then don't buy something for $1,000 just to essentially cripple it afterwards.
abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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Lineage 15.1 was released yesterday for the note 8, it is in alpha stage though.
Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
sandeepkumar0153 said:
I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
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Couldn't agree more on this. I bought my note 8 after i have used a note 8 port rom on my j7 2016.
And honestly i will prefer the note this way and i haven't even rooted yet. I miss viper4android so much but atleast we have Dolby atmos in N8.
iceepyon said:
I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Exactly, you buy a note device for what i gives not what you can mod it into using a custom rom. Root and xposed is an other thing, but custom rom, that too an AOSP ? Completely dumb people out there.
I think it is about choice, not stupidity, like it's said a couple of times here.
Let people do what they want with their phone, like you do.
The thing is i am a university student and thought that i would use the pen.. turned out i didn't use it nor did i use any of the other features..
Second i am not from the US so pixel is not an option unless i would pay around 100 to 200 extra dollar to get it without a warranty.. this goes to the oneplus..
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
abdulrrahman said:
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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You do know that once you install a custom OS on the Note. The camera quality goes down. As custom OSes do not have the same camera optimisation software as the Samsung Stock OS.
I was planning to use the pixel camera app
abdulrrahman said:
I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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Of course yo would, that is the point, once you install a stock android,, the camera will no longer be driven by the samsung software, exactly what iceepyon told you, the samsung hardware is specifically constructed to work efficiently with samsung firmwares
Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
People are not "dumb or stupid" if they're looking for customization options on XDA. They're maybe "wrong" in some cases. Just tell them why.
To answer your question:
These days there are too many flagships and midrange phones out there. Also The oems use different hardwares and barely release their source codes and drivers. Plus, stock roms are way more feature rich and fluid than before. For all these reasons the development of vanilla based roms is limited and less reasonable for most phones. Except pixel phones and Android one phones. Even there, all different roms are lineage-based and basically the same, with same features and same bugs! But different visuall traits!
There is a Lineage os for note 8.0 but in very early stages. About other custom roms (stock based), they do a great job in terms of features and removing so called bloatwares, but personally I recommend you staying on stock because unlike few years ago, stock roms get you better performance, features, battery life, etc. I'm currently using pixel 2 and note 8 and trust me, you get bored by plain android!
pooyab said:
Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
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Now I'm going to watch Taylor Swift music videos and read the comments, when I get home.

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