Hi everybody,
in my Samsung Gear VR, when I look in the corners without moving my head, just with my eyes, it looks really unclear/blurred :/
And generally, it don't looks like it is really sharp. I thought it could be my eyes? Because actually I wear glasses and my eyes are not same strong. But under the Gear I'm not able to wear them.
Would really like to hear some experience from others.
Thanks.
EscapeMaster said:
Hi everybody,
in my Samsung Gear VR, when I look in the corners without moving my head, just with my eyes, it looks really unclear/blurred :/
And generally, it don't looks like it is really sharp. I thought it could be my eyes? Because actually I wear glasses and my eyes are not same strong. But under the Gear I'm not able to wear them.
Would really like to hear some experience from others.
Thanks.
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If your eyes are different or are too bad to be fixed by the focus wheel then you have no choice but to get contacts. Close each eye individually and see what you experience.
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EscapeMaster said:
Hi everybody,
in my Samsung Gear VR, when I look in the corners without moving my head, just with my eyes, it looks really unclear/blurred :/
And generally, it don't looks like it is really sharp. I thought it could be my eyes? Because actually I wear glasses and my eyes are not same strong. But under the Gear I'm not able to wear them.
Would really like to hear some experience from others.
Thanks.
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The Gear VR uses one layered biconvex lenses. The convex form bends the light at a certain angle which differs from the middle to the outer part of the screen. As the screen is a flat surface and not rounded in a convex form (equal to the lenses) the outer ranges will for sure get more blurry. This can only be eliminated with multi layered lense constructs like the currently coming up HMDs will use (CV1 / Vive).
In short: Yes this is normal that the picture gets more blurry to the edges.
I found this to be case also, I figured it was just something that you will get with a $99 device.
Hello.
You can use glasses with new Gear Vr Consumer Edition.
It is not a 100% current information but I saw it in few youtubers reviews. Also I own "Gear Vr Light" version which is probably same as Consumer edition and I made life tests. Two of my friends who wear glasses were able to use my VR with the glasses put on. Still you must be very careful to not scratch the lenses but as they told me there is enough room inside of the device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVX7iruysrM
look at 1:12
Hope it will help some of you
BR.
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After looking at a few previews of people using Gear VR I’m not sure if eyeglasses can be worn. Do you take off your glasses and use the focus dial?
I think I read in slashgear it will work with glasses
I believe it will
The guy from 'Tested' said in his video review from the Oculus Connect event that his glasses were not compatible with the headset because of his mixed astigmatism. And he also noted that because of it, the headset's lenses were harder to adjust.
Wearing glasses with Gear VR
cdmoore74 said:
After looking at a few previews of people using Gear VR I’m not sure if eyeglasses can be worn. Do you take off your glasses and use the focus dial?
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Actually, after looking into it a little bit, it appears as though Gear VR may not really be suitable for wearing glasses with Though I suppose it could be done as long as the device still fits and wearing the two together isn't too uncomfortable, so it would also probably depend on the style and/or size of the glasses you are wearing. There are some similar devices that have a selection of lenses to accommodate people who wear glasses, but apparently Samsung does not offer this feature with Gear VR. Hope this info helps
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Actually, after looking into it a little bit, it appears as though Gear VR may not really be suitable for wearing glasses with Though I suppose it could be done as long as the device still fits and wearing the two together isn't too uncomfortable, so it would also probably depend on the style and/or size of the glasses you are wearing. There are some similar devices that have a selection of lenses to accommodate people who wear glasses, but apparently Samsung does not offer this feature with Gear VR. Hope this info helps
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best solution would be to wear contacts, or go to the doctor and do the laser treatment...I'm one of those lucky people who got 20/20....and yes I always wear eye-drops when go to the beach or take a shower....eat lots of green vegetables etc...
If you are near sighted, you wont need to wear glasses using gear vr. I have no idea about far sighted people.
There's a way to change the focus.
Focus can be changed using the scroll wheel on the top..so I guess it ll work for far sighted ppl too..
What if you are near and far sighted? I wish I was joking but one eye is each for me.
What happens if you look through binoculars? Usually people are fine looking through lenses close to their eyes even without corrective lenses in front.
dbraba01 said:
What if you are near and far sighted? I wish I was joking but one eye is each for me.
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The guy from Cnet used his own glasses with the Gear VR, it's probably not as comfortable as wearing no glasses but atleast he was able to use it this way.
"I slipped Gear VR over my own glasses, but you can also just adjust a top focus dial to fit your own prescription. (Although my -9 vision barely worked with one Gear VR headset's focus dial.) "
-9, no wonder he still needed to use glasses. I'm between - 3.75 and -4.00. My daughter is -8.25 and she can't see anything without her glasses.
I'm also -8.25 and I was able to get the Gear VR to focus perfectly. The wheel was to the max in the opposite direction as when I have my contacts in, so I would think -8 is getting to the max of it's focus tange.
Glad to report that after trying Gear VR at the Woodfield Mall in Schaumburg, IL (Samsung has a experience location near the AT&T store) the headset works fine for my eyesight without glasses. The only issue is the the person doing the demo does not tell you about the focus wheel. Maybe he just thought I knew what I was doing.
On a separate note I wish they had more demo's. The blue ocean one is not enough and I wanted more. But in a few days I will have my grubby hands on my own.
Works for me without glasses. Im nearsighted. So I can't see far. Which luckily works out for the gear vr since the thing is less than an inch from your face.
No Glasses
The manual specifically says not to user glasses and goes so far as to recommend wearing contacts. But as others have said, the focus wheel makes it easy to adjust focus.
I use the VR without my glasses or contacts and it works but requires moving the wheel to the extreme as far as it will go; it is *almost* in perfect focus but certainly good enough.
cbutters said:
What happens if you look through binoculars? Usually people are fine looking through lenses close to their eyes even without corrective lenses in front.
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Binoculars have a diopter ring to adjust each eye to proper foucus, so they work together with the main focus.
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Binoculars have a diopter ring to adjust each eye to proper foucus, so they work together with the main focus.
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Interesting... I guess I'm equally bad in both eyes, so I never noticed. Although now I have had a lasik procedure and I can see perfect 20/20 in both eyes. Its amazing. going on 5 years now, no problems.
I'm nearsighted and have different vision in each eye, the right eye quite a bit worse with far worse astigmatism. Even with that and uniform focus for both eyes in the gear vr, though, I am able to find a very suitable focus and have continued using the VR at length. I do believe it may be a bit better with contacts, and I will be getting new contacts shortly ( yes, just for the vr ) but for now, it actually works rather amazingly well considering how far off my eyes are from each other.
Everyone will be different, though. I have let many people try mine and everyone with poor vision and glasses was surprised they could find a very clear focus without their glasses, but I'm sure there are some out there where contacts will be the only option. Currently, options are limited without far more advanced hardware because adjusting the focal length of the lenses to focus to the eye slightly changes the magnification of the image as the distance changes. If they had independent focus, the two images wouldn't quite match up so the image being generated for each eye would have to adjust on the screen too.
We do live in the future, though, so someone will come up with something awesome for this very soon I'm sure.
Hey everyone,
I just got my Gear VR and I just finished setup. I have tried to adjust the focus on the headset but it seems no matter what I do it always has a bit of blur to it? Is this normal or should it be able to focus into a perfectly clear image? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
Haze69 said:
Hey everyone,
I just got my Gear VR and I just finished setup. I have tried to adjust the focus on the headset but it seems no matter what I do it always has a bit of blur to it? Is this normal or should it be able to focus into a perfectly clear image? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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Someone else had the same problem on reddit, maybe it was you? It seems that when you put the Gear VR a bit higher by adjustung the headstraps, it will come into focus, atleast that was the case with the other guy.
Powerslash said:
Someone else had the same problem on reddit, maybe it was you? It seems that when you put the Gear VR a bit higher by adjustung the headstraps, it will come into focus, atleast that was the case with the other guy.
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No.. it wasn't me lol. I will try that as soon as I get off work. Thank you!
So playing around with it, I found that certain experiences like in tutorial just aren't very sharp.. The quality looks much better in other VR apps like Oculus Cinema.. Its still a little blurry but nothing terrible..
Do you have a screen protector on the Note?
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Do you have a screen protector on the Note?
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I have a screen protector and noticed the same thing . . . guess that is the culprit?
by screenprotector.. You mean plastic or tempered glass ?
I would say both. We might be introducing the blur because we are placing a additional layer of glass or plastic on top of the primary glass. Under normal conditions we do not see pixels right. But with Oculus Rift the ideal resolution is 16k! That's because we have the screens so close to our eyes and you're using lenses. I'm not sure if the lenses are used for magnification or if they allow us to refocus on the top layer of the screen. You might be seeing the bad quality of the protector first, then a possible inner layer of dirt or moisture followed by the actual screen. I always use the shower method to apply my protectors. Maybe there is still a layer of moisture trapped that the naked eye cannot see.
Please don't remove your expensive screen protectors and blame me if you still have a blurry effect. I do plan on removing mine because I have this nasty halo effect. That too can't be good for this application. Also make sure that all the plastic film protectors are removed. Seen this one unboxing and it appears that both sides of the lenses have those protectos applied.
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Do you have a screen protector on the Note?
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Yes I have a spigen screen protector. It's extremely clear with no halo effect. Most people can't even tell it's on however as Chrisonxda said it's possible the additional layer is causing the blur as the image passes through.
chrisonxda1 said:
I would say both. We might be introducing the blur because we are placing a additional layer of glass or plastic on top of the primary glass. Under normal conditions we do not see pixels right. But with Oculus Rift the ideal resolution is 16k! That's because we have the screens so close to our eyes and you're using lenses. I'm not sure if the lenses are used for magnification or if they allow us to refocus on the top layer of the screen. You might be seeing the bad quality of the protector first, then a possible inner layer of dirt or moisture followed by the actual screen. I always use the shower method to apply my protectors. Maybe there is still a layer of moisture trapped that the naked eye cannot see.
Please don't remove your expensive screen protectors and blame me if you still have a blurry effect. I do plan on removing mine because I have this nasty halo effect. That too can't be good for this application. Also make sure that all the plastic film protectors are removed. Seen this one unboxing and it appears that both sides of the lenses have those protectos applied.
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Please let us know the results if you remove the screen protector. Before I remove mine I'm going to test it on a friend's note 4 as he doesn't use a screen protector on his..
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Don’t have good news regarding screen protectors. Per the Gear VR operator’s manual page 6 of 61:
“Remove the mobile device screen protector to get clear visibility. “
Sadly I won’t be able to confirm with my own glass protector because when I went to order this morning Samsung was out of stock again. I should have ordered earlier but I was concerned with Verizon compatibility and I wanted to see more feedback from people.
cdmoore74 said:
Don’t have good news regarding screen protectors. Per the Gear VR operator’s manual page 6 of 61:
“Remove the mobile device screen protector to get clear visibility. “
Sadly I won’t be able to confirm with my own glass protector because when I went to order this morning Samsung was out of stock again. I should have ordered earlier but I was concerned with Verizon compatibility and I wanted to see more feedback from people.
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I ripped my screen protector off. Didn't make a difference. Some of the content is just more blurry than others. But wow is the over all experience amazing. I brought mine into work. It is a pretty cynical crowd since I work for a video game company. Everyone who has tried has been floored.
adamjaeger said:
I ripped my screen protector off. Didn't make a difference. Some of the content is just more blurry than others. But wow is the over all experience amazing. I brought mine into work. It is a pretty cynical crowd since I work for a video game company. Everyone who has tried has been floored.
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I actually see this blur people are talking about and has nothing to do with the video. It's just a dirty lens. Whenever I get that smudge due to eye lashes etc, I just wipe it with the glass cloth and it's back to clear. I thought I had an issue with my eye or something lol.
adamjaeger said:
I ripped my screen protector off. Didn't make a difference. Some of the content is just more blurry than others. But wow is the over all experience amazing. I brought mine into work. It is a pretty cynical crowd since I work for a video game company. Everyone who has tried has been floored.
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ditto. i ran the Gear VR with two different Note 4s: one with and one without a screen protector (film type). they both looked the same in terms of clarity...besides the scratches on the unprotected one. lols. Samsung is probably thinking about those who have damaged screen protectors or those crazy rubber ones that have that orange peel effect. and maybe those tempered glass ones as well since they just add onto the phone which might cause difficulty in docking the phone to the headset.
I think I figured out the blur and why it's there somtime when I swear I didn't touch the lens. Fog. (I think the weather also affects this) It's defintely fogging up. When I take the headset off, I see the fog vaporize off the lens. So maybe I should apply some anti fog.. hmm
Mine fogs up too. I wonder if the anti-fog spray for glasses will work?
well technically the gear vr is mostly the same as the oculus dk2.
i have the dk2 at home so i can confirm that its allways somehow blur and not perfectly crisp. you have a "sweet spot" at the middle and the more you look at the sides the more blurry it gets...
this is how the optical lenses work now and will only get better with better hardware.
nethertheless dont get too much distracted by it...
for best results:
- adjust the right ipd and also try to find the optimal vertical alignment
- keep the screen and the lenses clean (hopefully the lenses are not as fragile as the dk2 lenses are)
gl and have fun! :highfive:
I put some anti fog spray I use on my hockey visor worked perfectly.
clonednull said:
well technically the gear vr is mostly the same as the oculus dk2.
i have the dk2 at home so i can confirm that its allways somehow blur and not perfectly crisp. you have a "sweet spot" at the middle and the more you look at the sides the more blurry it gets...
this is how the optical lenses work now and will only get better with better hardware.
nethertheless dont get too much distracted by it...
for best results:
- adjust the right ipd and also try to find the optimal vertical alignment
- keep the screen and the lenses clean (hopefully the lenses are not as fragile as the dk2 lenses are)
gl and have fun! :highfive:
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Is there an ipd adjustment on the gear vr?
In preperation before my Gear VR arrives, i already ordered anti fog spray and a rocket blaster for blowing away dust particles.
http://www.amazon.com/Giottos-AA190...&qid=1418732129&sr=8-1&keywords=rocket+blower
I have the same issue
I can get each eye clear, but it has to be so precise, it's on the verge of annoying. Maybe my head/eyes are shaped weird.
So after months of waiting, when it was released on Monday I couldn't help but feel hesitant about picking one up, lol I'm not sure if it was justifying the money for a piece of plastic or the idea of it coming out was more exciting than actually buying it, for me the main seller is the cinema, I'm a huge movie buff and watch movies a lot before bed on my Note 10.1 2014 or Note 4 (If too lazy to grab my tablet) so this is right up my ally, i hope. The other sell is the Harmonix music player, I'm hoping its included because I haven't heard anyone talk about it since launch, I'm hoping they just forgot and it doesn't mean that it sucks or isn't included, being able to lay back on the couch and basically meditate and vibe out with immersive visuals to my favorite music sounds pretty awesome. Lets hope. Honestly those reasons and the fact I specifically opted for the Note 4 over the Note Edge in anticipation for the VR kind of pushed the sale, Otherwise getting the Note 4 would have been in vain lol.
Honestly I'm pretty excited to get it now that its ordered, needless to say I sprang for the Next Day shipping from Samsung because of my hesitation to grab one early in the week, and I wanted to get it to play with over the weekend, so It SHOULD be sitting on my doorstep ready to rock when I get home from work tomorrow.
Questions to the people who already have one in their hands:
Any tips or tricks I should know before getting this tomorrow?
Any cool features I need to know about?
Is the included content easy to run through within a day and does any of it have playback value? (I.E. The ocean, concerts, Iceland etc.)
Loading your own Movies from SD, simple?
Overheating?
Battery Life?
Worth the money?
Gaming?
Current Content & Does it seem like future content will be coming pretty regular?
Is there a content store or just what's on the Included SD card?
Etc.
Any and all thoughts appreciated, I've been reading the threads people have posted who have already picked one up and it's helped me find some validation in grabbing one.
Thanks Guys, Pretty jazzed up due to the wait and the reviews I've been reading and watching, but nervous I just dipped into the savings (especially during the already expensive Christmas time) to buy a tchotchke lol I mean I'm no stranger to Early adopting, especially with Samsung but you never know what you are in for!
Again thanks for any help!
To be honest, I don't want to ruin the surprise for you. But i would save the gaming for last...
I just ordered a Gear VR as soon as I installed the Verizon VR update (wanted to wait for that to happen before ordering- this was quick for Verizon).
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To be honest, I don't want to ruin the surprise for you. But i would save the gaming for last...
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Lol I'm intrigued, do tell! What am i in for?
So that the picture isn't blurry you have to put the Gear VR up and down on your face till you find your sweet spot by adjusting it with the headstrap.
And don't forget to remove all plastic covers from the lenses, they are on the front and back of the lenses.
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So that the picture isn't blurry you have to put the Gear VR up and down on your face till you find your sweet spot by adjusting it with the headstrap.
And don't forget to remove all plastic covers from the lenses, they are on the front and back of the lenses.
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Thanks!
Use the Cinema first, it's probably the most impressive and intuitive mode.
Games haven't impressed me much.
I concur that moving it up and down on your face is probably the most important thing for clarity, which Samsung doesn't elaborate much in its manuals.
This is very important if it's pretty cold where you live. If the Gear VR is cold, it will fog up for the first few minutes of use due to it being heated up by the phone and your face. You will notice this because a small fog will form on the lens. What I do is lift the Gear VR off my face about an inch and just blow up into the glass. It will then defog. I have to do this a couple times initially until things warm up. And I'd recommend you watch the Gear VR Intro Video first. And Cinema is real cool with 3d movies / videos. Good luck!
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And don't forget to remove all plastic covers from the lenses, they are on the front and back of the lenses.
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That's weird... I did not have any plastic things on the front of my lenses (only had them on the lenses inside of the goggles) S: I had something on the tinted cover thing though? Hope no one played with my VR before delivering X_X
Anyways~
My VR starts getting warm after about an hour of normal use without the cover thing on I leave my cover off because I like walking around with the see through function :silly:
JippleStar said:
That's weird... I did not have any plastic things on the front of my lenses (only had them on the lenses inside of the goggles) S: I had something on the tinted cover thing though? Hope no one played with my VR before delivering X_X
Anyways~
My VR starts getting warm after about an hour of normal use without the cover thing on I leave my cover off because I like walking around with the see through function :silly:
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Ok i got my Gear VR today and i had the exact same thing as you, only had a plastic film on the lenses inside of the googles and was also worried if it was already used. But the rest looks pretty much unused.
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Ok i got my Gear VR today and i had the exact same thing as you, only had a plastic film on the lenses inside of the googles and was also worried if it was already used. But the rest looks pretty much unused.
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It's probably nothing then XD This thing is so fun with my big ass headphones :silly: I feel like a cyborg when I walk around with it
Apparently if you have Titanium Backup or whatever you can use your phone like normal-ish(?)
And don't forget to wipe your phone's screen so no smudges if any XD
hows the GEAR VR with glasses? anybody tried it? does it cover the glasses form?
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bogdan_wrc said:
hows the GEAR VR with glasses? anybody tried it? does it cover the glasses form?
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Getting my Gear VR by UPS later today and also wondering about this. I watched a few unboxing videos and saw that there is an adjustment for nearsightedness...a dial you turn at top center it looked like. But one of the people in the video wore glasses and said it was OK.
I did also see that there is apparently a risk of damaging the lenses in the Gear VR by wearing glasses so we should take care as we try. Let us know your experiences as you test it out.
i am taking into consideration buying, if it can be used ok with glasses and if i find a reasonable price in EUROPE.
bogdan_wrc said:
i am taking into consideration buying, if it can be used ok with glasses and if i find a reasonable price in EUROPE.
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Just tried it with glasses and it works fine! There's a bit more pressure on your nose, but it definitely is possible. Didn't notice a big difference between having my glasses and not having them, as I'm near sighted. :good:
It really depends on the glasses. My tiny wireframes work just barely, but neither of my thicker frames even come close.
I was hellbent on wearing my glasses for awhile, but I have gradually learned to go without. The extra pressure on them kept worrying me that they were going to end up getting bent.
If you are nearsighted you might try without glasses since the screen is quite close - it works better for me that way.
i got these types:
http://www.ray-ban.com/international/products/optics/RB8411
i will try them when i have the occasion, but in EUR i cannot find them neither in stores, nor online with 30 days money back guarantee.
Mine kinda pinched my nose bridge too hard and i think it looked the same without them
Just got the 2016 version of the Gear VR and I like it a lot ... except for the lenses. They magnify the image too much, so the pixels appear too large and too visible IMO. The same material looks much better to me when viewing it through my SnailVR SVR headset. So I want to use the SVR lenses with the Gear VR ... If you changed the lenses on your Gear, please tell me how it went and if you have any advice, please share ...
all mod lenses were made for GearVR 2015 because the lenses were uniform and mostly were to replace original lenses by prescription glasses , these helped short sighted zoom the device further forward and thus it becomes less pixelated or people with high ipds or variable eye to eye measures see clearly , with the little help from youtube the gear vr lenses could be removed , measured and moded lenses were made by skilled oculists to replace the original lenses . it is commonly advised not to buy the 2016 version of gear vr if you plan to do so since the lenses on these are not uniform . however if you are willing to take the risk your first concern is to find an oculist ready to do the mod for you since it requires delicate equipment and treatment , then just seek gear vr 2016 tear down videos to see if you are able to replace them.
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all mod lenses were made for GearVR 2015 because the lenses were uniform and mostly were to replace original lenses by prescription glasses , these helped short sighted zoom the device further forward and thus it becomes less pixelated or people with high ipds or variable eye to eye measures see clearly , with the little help from youtube the gear vr lenses could be removed , measured and moded lenses were made by skilled oculists to replace the original lenses . it is commonly advised not to buy the 2016 version of gear vr if you plan to do so since the lenses on these are not uniform . however if you are willing to take the risk your first concern is to find an oculist ready to do the mod for you since it requires delicate equipment and treatment , then just seek gear vr 2016 tear down videos to see if you are able to replace them.
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Thank you, night-mayor!
Can you tell me what you mean by "not uniform"?
they are not circular , they have part of the circle missing , and 0.5 cm around their diameter are narrowed further more than the rest of the lenses curve . it even creates a distortion that nobody knows why they want it
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they are not circular , they have part of the circle missing , and 0.5 cm around their diameter are narrowed further more than the rest of the lenses curve . it even creates a distortion that nobody knows why they want it
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Ah, of course. I actually noticed this but didn't realize that's what you meant. The Rift and VIVE also have this, and if I had to guess I'd say it lets you get a little closer to the lenses, having the bottoms cut at an angle like that gives you more room for your nose.
So no replacing the lenses ... but I wonder if I should still do the "FOV mod," where you remove part of the black plastic "shroud" to allow you to see more of the screen image ...