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Dualboot Phiremod/Honeycomb SD on Ebay
Ok, I know this issue has been raised before. But this just isn't right. This person is profiting off the hard work of everyone here on the Nook Color Dev forums. I understand that some people are technically challenged and enjoy the fact that all they have to do is pop in the SDcard with the roms already loaded. But I've made that dualboot img so that any technically challenged person can do it. All you have to do is burn it to a card and you have a dualboot rom.
Not to mention all the devs that actually put work into making these roms how they are. And we do it all so everyone can benefit without being ripped off by said ebay poster.
**sigh**
Sorry for my rants, but even if the poster had even mentioned or give credit where credit is due, I wouldn't be as upset.
Oh and here is a youtube video where the person is explaining on how to use the dualboot menu by J4mm3r. You don't want to boot to "eemc". LOLOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayrOZfF6gE
Just want to say thanks to the wonderful community here as well.
Thanks,
Racks
One half of me is happy to see that my Honeycomb SDK build was good enough to want to use. The other half of me is pissed off at stupid profiteers using it to make bouku bucks....
Sadly, i knew when i put it out there, i could not stop it from being used this way. And of course, it isn't just my effort being ripped off - it looks like they are using your work as well Racks.
Ah well... i just won't support the poor suckers who get said cards, and cannot figure out why they dont work.
Why dont you guys report the items on ebay. Since he deff does not have a license from google to SELL android os. Google lets you use android for free but have to have a license to sell it.
$50 Yikes! I could see spending maybe $10 or $20 to save the hassle, in fact I paid a local guy $20 off of Craigslist to do the CM7 install for me since I wasn't comfortable doing it myself. But $50?!?!? That's robbery.
You know, there's a whole wider point here about how forums, and the like, disseminate information.
I've had my Nook for all of a week. I'm on my second Android phone so am used to flashing ROM updates. BUT coming to this corner of XDA I hit a brick wall seriously hard.
The problem for this and many other fora is that no-one offically obsoletes and removes information. Some info is good and still current; some never worked and some has now become bad after Nook updates. As a noob I have no easy way of knowing which is which.
I've been following this forum daily but I've mainly been looking to Gingerbread and stock 1.2. I am astounded to discover there is a dual boot option on an SD card with Honeycomb. Where is it? Why didn't I see it? Where are the guides to doing it?
On to the eBay guy; you do get a tested 16Gb card for your money. Good luck to him! If he'd acknowledges software sources - all the eBay 'me toos' out there would have it too easy.
croques said:
You know, there's a whole wider point here about how forums, and the like, disseminate information.
I've had my Nook for all of a week. I'm on my second Android phone so am used to flashing ROM updates. BUT coming to this corner of XDA I hit a brick wall seriously hard.
The problem for this and many other fora is that no-one offically obsoletes and removes information. Some info is good and still current; some never worked and some has now become bad after Nook updates. As a noob I have no easy way of knowing which is which.
I've been following this forum daily but I've mainly been looking to Gingerbread and stock 1.2. I am astounded to discover there is a dual boot option on an SD card with Honeycomb. Where is it? Why didn't I see it? Where are the guides to doing it?
On to the eBay guy; you do get a tested 16Gb card for your money. Good luck to him! If he'd acknowledges software sources - all the eBay 'me toos' out there would have it too easy.
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Well you can find the dualboot SD here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13092402&postcount=1
And it almost sounds like your condoning his actions? Be that as it may, yes when we put information out there on these forums, people are free to use them as they wish. Just wish people like said poster wouldn't benefit free from other peoples hard work that they put into it. Not to mention the community here that tested these roms and reported bugs and issues so that it would be tweaked to it's best ability to run on our Nooks.
How would anyone feel if they put hours and days or even months into a project so that they can help out a community only to have someone come by, take that project, package it up and make a profit off of it. It just aint right.
Again, I was just writing to vent. Don't take anything I write personal. I feel much better now!
Thanks,
Racks
racks11479 said:
...when we put information out there on these forums, people are free to use them as they wish. Just wish people like said poster wouldn't benefit free from other peoples hard work that they put into it. Not to mention the community here that tested these roms and reported bugs and issues so that it would be tweaked to it's best ability to run on our Nooks.
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I can totally understand where you are coming from; I have a paid app on the market and am sure some people download, get a refund but keep it on their system with Titanium Backup. I get mad too. But sometimes I pirate stuff and feel justified. Human beings are a funny mix - or at least I am.
Would you really want to run a business selling formatted SD cards on eBay or would you prefer doing what you do and contributing to the community? Clearly for you, 'contribution' is an important part of your self-realization. I imagine monetizing everything you touch is not how you wish to live your life or see yourself. There are others who take a different world-view; the eBay guy being one of them.
As for condoning his actions, I think I recognise the world needs enterpreneurs as well as altruists; but I agree I do feel differently when it's me being ripped off
Thanks for the link but in a way it make the case for the eBay guy. The post has been updated and the steps one needs to take from scratch to get an SD card dual booting have become less clear. The words "Phiremod 6.2 and Madcat's Honeycomb Hybrid-RC1" may mean something to those that have been here a while; sadly in this madly hyper-linked world it means little to me yet.
I'm minded of a software Engineering lecturer who once asked 'Why is it that when software is updated the file size always grows". Thread updates via edits on XDA-developers always get larger - is there a good reason why?
croques said:
I can totally understand where you are coming from; I have a paid app on the market and am sure some people download, get a refund but keep it on their system with Titanium Backup. I get mad too. But sometimes I pirate stuff and feel justified. Human beings are a funny mix - or at least I am.
Would you really want to run a business selling formatted SD cards on eBay or would you prefer doing what you do and contributing to the community? Clearly for you, 'contribution' is an important part of your self-realization. I imagine monetizing everything you touch is not how you wish to live your life or see yourself. There are others who take a different world-view; the eBay guy being one of them.
As for condoning his actions, I think I recognise the world needs enterpreneurs as well as altruists; but I agree I do feel differently when it's me being ripped off
Thanks for the link but in a way it make the case for the eBay guy. The post has been updated and the steps one needs to take from scratch to get an SD card dual booting have become less clear. The words "Phiremod 6.2 and Madcat's Honeycomb Hybrid-RC1" may mean something to those that have been here a while; sadly in this madly hyper-linked world it means little to me yet.
I'm minded of a software Engineering lecturer who once asked 'Why is it that when software is updated the file size always grows". Thread updates via edits on XDA-developers always get larger - is there a good reason why?
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Well, firstly just want to say thanks for your understanding of my rants.
And yes you are correct in how the world works, people will be people.
Thread updates gets larger via edits so newcomers can see the progress of the work that has been done. And out there for anyone that wants to understand how it progressed from initial beta phase to current status of the app/software/rom being worked on.
Oh and regarding the software quote, well size of any particular software grows when you add additional modifications, tweaks and functions.
Take my horrible analogy for example:
"You can make scrambled eggs with just two eggs some oil and a pan. Wanna make make that scrambled egg even better? How bout an omelette, now we need previous ingredients, plus, cheese, mushrooms, etc...." you get my drift.
-Racks
racks11479 said:
Dualboot Phiremod/Honeycomb SD on Ebay
Ok, I know this issue has been raised before. But this just isn't right. This person is profiting off the hard work of everyone here on the Nook Color Dev forums. I understand that some people are technically challenged and enjoy the fact that all they have to do is pop in the SDcard with the roms already loaded. But I've made that dualboot img so that any technically challenged person can do it. All you have to do is burn it to a card and you have a dualboot rom.
Not to mention all the devs that actually put work into making these roms how they are. And we do it all so everyone can benefit without being ripped off by said ebay poster.
**sigh**
Sorry for my rants, but even if the poster had even mentioned or give credit where credit is due, I wouldn't be as upset.
Oh and here is a youtube video where the person is explaining on how to use the dualboot menu by J4mm3r. You don't want to boot to "eemc". LOLOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayrOZfF6gE
Just want to say thanks to the wonderful community here as well.
Thanks,
Racks
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Racks, I'm sorry to hear the profiting from your and other devs work. I personally am not a developer, and would consider myself fairly novice at the inner workings of my NCs, however I have rooted both of mine and bought the second one just to learn, to try the different mods, to try all of the neat things that have been done to this point so that I can learn. Great reason to have threads out there that are older...
I had someone here at the office offer me $ to root their nook and put MN on it, I declined, modded it for them anyway, and now she's happy, I don't have any extra money, but for some reason I feel better about it. Imagine that, and I expressly made it clear that I didn't do anything other than follow directions and take no credit for what they now had.
So, thank you for all of your work, thanks to all of the other devs for their work as well, and to Hades with the guys that try to profit off of other people's hard work! LOL
DB
I think the loser doing this gets away with it by claiming you are not buying Android but rather you are buying the memory card and his "service" - which is a BS way around the rules.
Theres always the guy that profits solely off the service.
Just because we "get it" doesnt mean the average end user does.
"Android will change the way we do things" been saying that since me G1.
Instead of the legal and moral issues (if exist) the seller doesn't mention anywhere what is the class of the sds. The photo from ebay is low quality so I couldn't spot it.
what about this scenario?
A coworker has played with my rooted (bootloader with CM7 on a 16g sd card - stock untouched) and is purchasing one soon. i've told her there might be some issue with rooting 'new' hardware - but I'm not exactly certain about that. she wants to pay me to set hers up the way mine is. she might give me money, or she might buy me a six-pack of fancy beer or who knows.
I've told her that it is all copied work from various folks on the boards - but she'll never know xda-developers much less the individuals who have made all this possible. (can I 'thank' you guys on your threads more than once - adding a thanks for her?)
If I accept any kind of remuneration, am I profiteering from your work?
What if I decide to upgrade to a 32 gig card, and she pays me the price of my 16gig card and I leave the setup on it?
just curious where the line is
kimberlim said:
A coworker has played with my rooted (bootloader with CM7 on a 16g sd card - stock untouched) and is purchasing one soon. i've told her there might be some issue with rooting 'new' hardware - but I'm not exactly certain about that. she wants to pay me to set hers up the way mine is. she might give me money, or she might buy me a six-pack of fancy beer or who knows.
I've told her that it is all copied work from various folks on the boards - but she'll never know xda-developers much less the individuals who have made all this possible. (can I 'thank' you guys on your threads more than once - adding a thanks for her?)
If I accept any kind of remuneration, am I profiteering from your work?
What if I decide to upgrade to a 32 gig card, and she pays me the price of my 16gig card and I leave the setup on it?
just curious where the line is
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There is no line crossed. Your not putting out an ad to get peoples nooks so you can root it for them.
Someone personally asked you to do this for them. And I see nothing wrong with it. Its the ones that mass produce software that isn't theirs for money. That's what irks me.
I say gofor it. Not to mention that you've told your co-worker about
XdA. Not every one is tech savvy. And I already said that I wouldn't be as upset if said poster would have given credit to all the devs that put work in for free so he can make money off burning not just one. But many sdcards to sell on eBay.
To each his own I guess.
Thanks,
Racks
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Aloha...
You developers amaze me with your talents and the products resulting from them.
Shame on the sellers. As mentioned above, I expect that they say they are only charging for the cards and service. Boo! Hiss!
I'm having a tad of trouble with the Phiremod/HC dual boot with menu. Could someone please tell me the correct forum to get help with it? (NC 1.2, 8gb class 4 San disk card)
You are awesome, all of you!
Tana-Lee
61-year-old noob typing from the HC rom
I can see your fustration Racks. If I dedicated so much of my own time to benefit my community then somebody comes in and profits off my hard work I would be pissed.
That being said for us users on xda we do appreciate the time you put in to make our devices that much more awesome. So I say thank you sir, and hopefully more people will come to the xda forums and do their work themselves or at least try.
And it is true that Android is "open sourced" for the most part. However, anything Google requires licensing. This includes Google apps and the Android market. These are closed sourced. Seeing how these sd cards have both Google apps and market preinstalled, I can see Google justified in taking action if they choose to. Even if the consumer is paying for the "device" (sd card) that devices is distributing Google's property. Food for thought.
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Racks, thanks for the time you and the other devs put into the nook and cm7. I am fairly new to th android world but not to nix so the transition was not as rough for me as for some. I realize there wil always be folks out there who try to obtain other peoples work and profit from it and we, as a community, can only watch. What I propose, however rough around the edges it sounds, is that we, as a community, refer anyone who purchases these warz back to the source for assistance. I do realize that I sound harsh but the only way to prevent others from profiting from your work is to refuse to support the "pirated" software.
The whole AOSP thing has been a thorny issue from day one. As an old guy, I remember programming before monitors when keypunch cards were the norm but, even then, There were folks trying to profit from the hard work of others. Same thing applied then, if you have my work and did not get it from me then when you need support, go to the guy you got it from. Just sayin.....
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Hello XDA-People!,
With a little intro, I live outside the US. I also live in a country that is yet to officially have Windows Phone 7 and/or Market Place. So I had to create an American account, that said, Microsoft was not accepting any credit card I try to use. (Because my account was US, they wanted a US cc)
I came accross this website, that allows you to create virtual credit cards. I tried one of their cards and it worked ! I was even more surprised than happy.
Anyway, here is the link to the website: https://www.entropay.com.
Some important highlights :
I have been with them for about 9 months, haven't experienced any issues.
They will (probably) ask you to verify your account by sending governmental identification documents, which was PITA for me btw.
Their service is completely free, except they take 4.95% of what you load onto your cards.
They do not accept applications from the USA.
To load a virtual card, first you need to link a credit card.
Wow, we even need a workaround TO PAY THEM MONEY?
Good luck.
Working great, thanks!
I definitely bricked my HP TouchPad. But, I really would hate to have to send it in, wait for them to send me a new one, etc.
So if you think that there is a possibility that I didn't brick my TouchPad, and you would like 15 dollars PayPal if you do, by chance, solve it - then add my EDITED OUT . If you prefer Skype, my Skype is EDIT OUT.
If multiple people add me, then it is the first person who fixes it that gets the money.
I'm not an idiot with technology, so it won't be a horrible process to talk to me about my TouchPad and to have me perform several steps.
I've done just about any guide that exists to fix it.
Also - please post saying you are going to add me if you are going to add me.
Thanks.
Plug it in..... Just kidding...
Well, lets start by you posting the problem you are having (description of what it is doing), then a description of what you did to get it to it's current state.
You never know, someone just may do it for free...
Trust me - it's really really hard to brick the Touchpad. I thought I had at one point, ok 3 points.
Rebuilding all the partitions works miracles.
If you give me what you've done, how you got to where you are - I can help you unbrick it... keep the 15.
PM me and we can work out a time to get you straight.
Since you offered the $15 to the first person, I think once your all fixed just send that cash to dalingrin or the cm team as a whole
Sent From Nexi - The Galaxy Nexus
Was there a happy ending, if so what was the fix?
I think plugging it in fixed it....
Just send the cash to Leo....
Your welcome.
I've been looking for a phone to buy outright for awhile and the Lumia 920, iPhone 5 and Galaxy Note 2 are all strong contenders, however the Nexus 4 beat them all with the price of £279. I was so prepared to buy one because it's a bargain but only 16GB? That would be fine if there was a Micro SD but there isn't. They really need to release a 32GB and 64GB model. I mean I fill 16GB up with music alone on my GS2.
Sweet, another thread about storage. Go buy another phone.
Buy another phone. Use cloud services. Use the search function in this forum. Do anything else but complain here. Most of us have had enough.
Unlimited data here so storage isn't an issue and i get H+ mostly everywhere I got from home to work so all good. 16 gig is enough for me. Lucky we all have the option to buy other phones
Venekor said:
I've been looking for a phone to buy outright for awhile and the Lumia 920, iPhone 5 and Galaxy Note 2 are all strong contenders, however the Nexus 4 beat them all with the price of £279. I was so prepared to buy one because it's a bargain but only 16GB? That would be fine if there was a Micro SD but there isn't. They really need to release a 32GB and 64GB model. I mean I fill 16GB up with music alone on my GS2.
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No one cares about your lack of storage. Don't buy it. But starting another thread on the subject is retarded. Much like your reasoning. Lets be brutally honest here too; Most that music you have sux. I bet its all emo/metro one hit gargbage. Cut out the crap.
I currently have every Led zep, Pink flyod, the who, the beatles, Metallica, slayer, Gwar, Wierd AL, AC DC, Alice Cooper, Aerosmith, the B52s, BTO, Bad Religion, Bela Fleck, the Black Keys, blood hound gang, Blues traveler, Buthole surfers, Cat Stevens, Cherry poppin Daddies, Citizen Fish, Danzig, Bowie, Elton Jon, Eric Clapton, Frank Zappa, GNR, Jethro Tull, Hendrix, Mifits Thrill kill kult, and about 50 more bands, with huge discography librarys all in Flac, and I only have about ten gigs taken up. You are doing something wrong, listening to garbage, if you have much more than that......
get over it. use google play for music or any of the free streaming music players. drive for documents and ubuntu one, dropbox, box, sugarsync, and google plus for photos. join the cloud and keep back ups on the home computer.
This thread should just be deleted!
lol so much hate, this is like Apple telling customers they're holding it wrong. I'm sorry that I am wrong for wanting more storage, no you people have convinced me that I don't need more than 16GB, you're right :S................
It's called feedback, if enough people request it then they'll release a version with more storage.
Venekor said:
lol so much hate, this is like Apple telling customers they're holding it wrong. I'm sorry that I am wrong for wanting more storage, no you people have convinced me that I don't need more than 16GB, you're right :S................
It's called feedback, if enough people request it then they'll release a version with more storage.
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No, the main point was that there are already threads in this very forum, in the same section, about the exact same topic. If you want to give feedback, email Google, I'm sure they'll love to hear from you.
Venekor said:
lol so much hate, this is like Apple telling customers they're holding it wrong. I'm sorry that I am wrong for wanting more storage, no you people have convinced me that I don't need more than 16GB, you're right :S................
It's called feedback, if enough people request it then they'll release a version with more storage.
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By feedback, you mean as many threads saying the exact same thing as possible right?
Venekor said:
lol so much hate, this is like Apple telling customers they're holding it wrong..
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That was a design flaw, NOT a design decision.
Venekor said:
I'm sorry that I am wrong for wanting more storage, no you people have convinced me that I don't need more than 16GB, you're right :S................
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And that's the great thing about Android devices in general, variety. You want more storage try an S3 or HTC One x, or anything that meets your specific requirements. Rather than bleating about the one device that doesn't.
Venekor said:
It's called feedback, if enough people request it then they'll release a version with more storage.
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I personally would have thought that after the Galaxy Nexus if the feedback/backlash was so great they would have changed their minds with the Nexus 4 and included the ability for expanded storage.
dieseldanjr said:
I personally would have thought that after the Galaxy Nexus if the feedback/backlash was so great they would have changed their minds with the Nexus 4 and included the ability for expanded storage.
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Why is that? Because of how much the GNex flopped?
Oh wait... that's right. Everyone complained about it for the weeks prior to the release and then you didn't hear a word about it because it was never an actual problem.
We really need to get a Mod in here to just merge all the storage rant threads together. I'm not saying I'm not fully satisfied with the storage issue, but I'm not making a new one despite the fact there's already about five (as far as I've seen, probably more) threads which state exactly what you're stating.
Hello, please use one of these threads:
Poll: what size storage do you need?
How much memory are you using????
Stop Complaining About The Storage!
Storage Solution.
Worried about space? Possible solution...
or just the more general complaining thread here:
Google ******* fails again...
Thanks
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