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I am thinking of getting the note but I have a question

I was just reading an article that said that it would not be able to run on tmobiles hspa+ network only EDGE is that true? is there no way to use the note on tmo's hspa+ at all or have the extreamly smart guys over here at xda figured out a way?
I hope there is a way because I have been a tmo customer for a few years and I have never even been late with a payment and I like there service. Att AND VZW both want big deposits from me and I dont have a ton of money to shell out. But I really want this note so I might have to switch.

Only edge for now. I ran tmobile for awhile and switched to straight talk when they started selling their sims online without having to buy a phone. It works great and is really quick.
Honestly though, I was on wifi so much tmobile edge didn't bother me that much. I switched mainly for the wife and her fb addiction Edge is ridiculously slow so no downloading or streaming nada. As for it getting solved, anything is possible but it won't be easy. Its been being worked on since release with no luck yet.
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that sucks I really like the note but EDGE is just intolerable I cant stand it, I have the galaxy s2 right now and anytime they throttle me back to EDGE I might as well throw my phone in the garbage. TMO should do away with it and throttle back to hspa from hspa+ well I know they cant get rid of it alltogether. Anyway thank you for the info I guess I am going to att.

[Q] Which one do I want? D:

Upgrading from a very buggy Galaxy S4 here. (The bugs are my fault and I'm not savvy enough to fix them, so I just deal with them.) Have a few questions about which version of the S6 I should get because I'm seeing a lot of info and I'm not really sure what all of it means, so hopefully you guys can give me straight and simple answers.
1. I'm currently on Straight Talk using AT&T. However, Verizon is overall the best in my area, so if I get switched to a new client where AT&T doesn't work I may need to change back to Page Plus quickly. I'm seeing conflicting information on the unlocked versions of these phones, but there does seem to be hope out there that it's possible for some versions to be able to switch between the two easily. Which version do I want if I want to be able to switch between AT&T and Verizon? If you're bored and want to look or know of a handy link where I can buy one of these phones, please feel free to toss it at me. eBay sellers 75% of the time don't seem to know what they're selling when it comes to unlocked phones.
2. An out-of-the-box, working mobile hotspot feature is extremely important to me. My S4 is messed up primarily because my attempt at making the hotspot work didn't go as easily as it was supposed to. I've seen on these forums that some users are saying that at least the Verizon version will work if you use FoxFi, no rooting or tether file hacking required (so no risk of me breaking my phone, yay). I have the paid version of FoxFi already, so that's good news if it's true. Confirm/deny and is the same true for the AT&T version if I had to get that instead?
In case it makes any difference: I'm not really set on getting the Edge if I have to get the regular S6 for the above features, I just couldn't decide which forum to post this in.
Thanks all!

Questions from an AT&T Note 4 user

One a week I come to this note 4 forum and look at all the cool roms and stuff for the note 4 on tmobile. I have to admit I'm jealous that I can't root (my att note 4 is carrier unlocked and I'm on tmobile btw). But, do people think it is worth it to sell my note on Swappa and pick up a used tmobile version so I can root it?
In past experience, sometimes, the stock rom is more stable than many or most rooms. The trade off of a little speed /looks is instability (I had the original note on att, roms on that always crashed).
Would the quality of (upgraded?) experience be worth the loss of some cash and time if I made the jump to a tmobile note 4?
Note: I really wish I could change the messed up title of this thread, damn tapatalk app

I did it and don't regret it for a second!

Bought a T-Mobile Note 4 off swappa. Sold my Verizon Note 4 on swappa once my ETF paid off. Reasoning: Was tired of paying the higher costs for given service + wanted a "root-able" device.
One thing to consider. (Especially if you are not under contract currently with AT&T) You don't have to choose T-Mobile as your carrier. (Depending on your area...) I planned to stay with T-Mobile, however, the reception amongst other issues chased me to "Cricket Wireless" - which gives you AT&T towers. No looking back for me. It's like going from the darkness to daylight. At least in my area.
Good luck! :good:

Bought an AT&T note 4 on contract when they first came out. Got sick of not having root so I sold it on Craigs list a week later and bought the Tmobile version in cash. Haven't looked back since. Best decision I could have made. Att has better service where I live, so I kept them, but the Tmobile phone with the unlocked bootloader is by far the best.
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I had the AT&T Note 4, loved it but I wanted root. I gave that phone to my wife, bought a T-Mobile version for myself. Note I'm very happy (after fixing some issues with the phone)

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grmcrkrs said:
I had the AT&T Note 4, loved it but I wanted root. I gave that phone to my wife, bought a T-Mobile version for myself. Note I'm very happy (after fixing some issues with the phone)
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Thanks for the reply, but can you say that there is a major difference between your phone and your wifes? I don't want to sell my att note 4 and pick up the tmobile and then, a few weeks down the line think, "wow, this is basically the same as my old note 4."
Grass looks greener over here but I am wondering if it really is

Is basically the same thing. But I can have multiple Clash of Clans accounts now, I can take ads out of stuff, I can our new romz on if I want, which I have, and that stuff is fun for me. I'm not happy with stock TW

awe215 said:
Thanks for the reply, but can you say that there is a major difference between your phone and your wifes? I don't want to sell my att note 4 and pick up the tmobile and then, a few weeks down the line think, "wow, this is basically the same as my old note 4."
Grass looks greener over here but I am wondering if it really is
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You're not going to think the two are the same thing, UNLESS you buy it and stupidly keep Touchwiz and do not install a better custom ROM. I have AT&T and have a T-mobile Note 4. You get better service with a better (read unlocked/rootable) device. You are free to take advantage of all the MUCH BETTER ROMs out there if you have the T-mobile version.
For instance, a shameless plug for the @temasek ROM. I had it on my Note 3, and now my Note 4. I daresay it is the best CM12.1 ROM you can get for a Note 4, and I don't say that lightly.

grmcrkrs said:
I had the AT&T Note 4, loved it but I wanted root. I gave that phone to my wife, bought a T-Mobile version for myself. Note I'm very happy (after fixing some issues with the phone)
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Could you elaborate on the issues? I'm about fed up with no root and it not looking promising on the att note 4. Going to switch to tmobile version but want to make sure im not messing up by doing so.

ThePublisher said:
Could you elaborate on the issues? I'm about fed up with no root and it not looking promising on the att note 4. Going to switch to tmobile version but want to make sure im not messing up by doing so.
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The issues were dropped calls, only 1 second of internet, randomly no text messages. The reason was that the IMEI was tampered with, and not done correctly. I was able to get in touch with someone who could fix it, now it'd working perfectly fine. In fact I have another one just like it for sale. But yeah, it was an off the wall issue, not your normal affair.

Worth buying N910T?

Hey T mobile users, I currently have a Sprint note4 unlocked on Cricket network. As you may know I only get hspa speeds this way, Not a super big deal to me. As I've had the phone this way for a year now. Only reason I even ended up this route is because i got the phone (at the time) real cheap from a relative.
But now that I've seen the prices drop quite a bit cause of its age, my question to you is first will the t mobile phone get lte speeds with Cricket(at&t)? It looks like to me it has them bands.
Second, Do you think it's worth the hassle? I figured I could comp the price by selling mine afterwards.
Your advice and opinion is appreciated. Thank you!

It WILL work, but it isn't worth the hassle. With T-Mobile you would only benefit from VoLTE and WiFi calling. You can root your existing phone and flash a ROM with the T-Mobile system files and keep your.
AT&T and T-Mobile note4 is the same hardware-wise except the bootloader, modem and corresponding kernel required to make WiFi calling work for the N910T. The N910A is punished with the locked bootloader, so I can see your concern.
If I understand you correctly: You wish to keep your current carrier, but to switch phones just to get LTE speeds?

I have a 910T running on Cricket's network. I think I paid $150 for it used which was a huge upgrade from the HTC Desire 510 I was using. It had a burnt in screen but I learned to deal with it for $150. Also has some other quirks that usually only show when a phone's been water damaged. I learned to deal and get around them though. Because of this, I don't recommend buying a phone used. And since you're content with your Sprint model, I might just stay with that.
The reason I went T-Mobile was because of the unlocked bootloader. And there's no doubt in my mind that I'll have this phone for another 2 years. It's a great phone and after Samsung took a bunch of features away with the Note 5 and then created an exploding Note 7, I'm quite happy with this device for a while to come. Now the rumor is that Samsung might be taking away the 3.5 headphone port. If that's true, **** them. I just used my headphones for over 6 hours on a Greyhound bus and Bluetooth requires charging which I don't wanna deal with.
I can't tell you what to do but if it were me, I'd stick with the Sprint model. But I do love custom ROMs so...

****If you buy a note 4****
Only buy a refurbished or recertified one with a full warranty...
There's reported issues with these phones real or imagined... don't take the risk!!!
Good Luck!

[Q] Pros and cons of unlocked Note 8

Best Buy has preorders for both the carrier locked and unlocked versions of the Note 8. I am coming off of a Note 4, and am very interested in the Note 8. My question is, are there any real benefits to me for buying the unlocked version vs. the Verizon version.
In the area in which I live, cell service mostly sucks across the board, but Verizon sucks the least. So I will not be changing carriers. So far, this is the pros/cons list based on the information that I've been able to find. I might be incorrect about one or more of these.
Pros:
Can change carriers whenever.
No carrier bloat.
Might get future updates more quickly.
Cons:
Might lose wifi calling.
Might lose wireless hotspot
Insurance is more expensive.
Best Buy has deals on pre-orders. For any Note 8, you get either a free memory card and wireless charging dock, or a Gear 365 camera. If you have their Best Buy card, then they have 24 month no interest financing. If you buy a carrier version of the phone, in addition to the other freebies, you get up to $150 off. The price of a Verizon Note 8 is $33.78 per month. The price of the unlocked Note 8 is $38.74 per month. Verizon also has a trade-in on my Note 4 of $240, which knocks the price down to $22.75 per month.
So given all of this, is there a compelling reason to get an unlocked phone? I know that carrier bloatware sucks, but there are solutions for it. At least there are on my Note 4.
One other question is, if I got a phone not tied to a carrier, does that make it easier to root in the future?

I pre ordered the unlocked phone and the reason was what happened to me with the note 7 (both times) and the ability to switch from AT&T to Verizon if I want to. Also lack of carrier bloat. Samsung has insurance for 12 bucks a month that is better than the carrier crap insurance. Wifi calling is a non issue for me, didn't realize that I might not have hot spot, but unlocked will get root first, and then Hotspot no trouble.
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I too pre ordered the unlocked version from samsung's website. I am with att right now and is planning to switch to t-mobile of project fi. not sure yet which of the two. but defintely a good plus having the unlocked version. I am not really concerned about wi fi calling since majority of the stuff i do to communicate is through text messages and through facebook messenger.

I have a unlock S8. I use it 100% fine on my T-mobile. But I can't do video call to another T-mobile customer. Thats the only difference.

I picked up the AT&T variant. My insurance is only $8.99 and if I call before 4pm I will have my phone the next day. Also if I need to warranty my phone they will send me another phone before I have to ship mine back to them. I'm not worried about bloat if that was the case I would just buy a OnePlus 5 or wait for the Pixel 2 you can uninstall or disable anything you don't want. I really don't see a need to root anymore. Im not all about flashing ROMs just to lose the features that make the Note the Note.
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i preordered ATT note8, i worry the unlocked note8 wont have all the att LTE bands.
on my att galaxy s8+ i getting 115mb down, 28mb up on att LTE Advanced

Speaking from my experience here in the UK, I have found that locked phones are a bad deal generally. They don't get the latest updates very quickly and you can only stick with one SIM card. They also devalue the phone when you want to sell it, and whilst you could use an unlocking service, they aren't always available for you phone or carrier combo.
You don't really get much (if any) carrier bloatware here however, so that's not a consideration. WiFi calling doesn't always deliver a good call connection and I have had occasional issues with this when using my hands-free car connection.
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ahenderson223 said:
I picked up the AT&T variant. My insurance is only $8.99 and if I call before 4pm I will have my phone the next day. Also if I need to warranty my phone they will send me another phone before I have to ship mine back to them. I'm not worried about bloat if that was the case I would just buy a OnePlus 5 or wait for the Pixel 2 you can uninstall or disable anything you don't want. I really don't see a need to root anymore. Im not all about flashing ROMs just to lose the features that make the Note the Note.
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For me, root is only useful for two reasons.
1. Ad blocking.
2. Tracking down the nuisance wakelocks that android always seems to have. I've had many android phones going back to the Evo, and the only ones that I didn't end up hating were the ones that I could root. My most current phone is a Note 4 and I blew it and lost root a couple of weeks ago and couldn't get it back. Now I can't tell what's keeping my phone awake all of the time.
I'm not into flashing anymore. When I had the Evo, I must have flashed it with 100 different ROMs. Now I just want a stable phone that doesn't get killed by wakelocks.

Battery life has been good to me on my last couple of Android devices. As far as updates on my S8+ I'm running the most current software and security patch that the unlocked unbranded has.
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My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?

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My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
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Been done many times over on s8 unlocked so I'd think yes.
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pete4k said:
My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
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I don't understand all of this rhetoric about wifi calling not working. I had a mid level Samsung Grand Prime from Sprint that did not have ANY service hooked up to it. I think the previous owner that sold it on ebay left his sim card in it since he switched carriers but I never hooked it up to service and for a time of many months, went around making wifi calls anywhere there was a wifi connection just to go off the grid and remember what it was like when we didn't have mobile phones and the only communication when out-and-around town, was a pay phone on the corner gas station ...... if it didn't have two or three people waiting in line to use it.
I understand that some carriers software disable their wifi calling features in some models of phones because they don't want anyone to be able to make a call unless they are paying for service, but seams from my experience that it only requires network service provisioning which is probably why my GP worked with the SIM, even though it wasn't active which means that it SHOULD work on any phone with any carrier that has a network SIM regardless of it being active with service. I realize (although not personally experienced) that some carriers disable wifi calling in their branded phones even with provisioning and SIM unless there is active service and I think some disable it even with active service so as to charge extra for it, am I right? That should be fixable by a patch or something. Do not all ROM's correct that nad make wifi calling work?
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PS. I think unlocked branded phones are the way to go just because of the lack of bloatware and ability to switch carriers at will and/or pop in a SIM from another carrier where you don't have good coverage or travel out of the country. To highlight, I just this year worked in two different towns where T-mobile had almost nonexistent coverage (one of which was instrumental in loosing a job) and being able to pop in a pre-paid sim would have corrected that. I thought this 2-3 years ago but didn't listen to myself and purchased a T-Mobile Note 8 last year and have been kicking myself for it ever since.

I prefer having a unlocked device that way I can use it with any Cell Provider I want.