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New Nexus One ques about rooting

I am receiving my new N1 Fri. Have been reading about rooting and all, does a new phone come with all the settings to the factory resets? Are there differences between my unlocked AT&T phone and others? If I choose to upgrade to new ROM's are my steps different? Been trying to figure it all out but unsure. Thanks

yes it comes with factory settings if its brand new.
upgrading to new roms won't be any different if you're on AT&T.

Link below is for nexus one in general, carrier doesn't matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688000

Makes sense. If I do decide to install a rom I would only have to load the file onto the sd card and install? Are the advantages of the rom's better performance or features?Been spending a lot of time trying to get educated but too many ques.

erikclaw said:
Makes sense. If I do decide to install a rom I would only have to load the file onto the sd card and install? Are the advantages of the rom's better performance or features?Been spending a lot of time trying to get educated but too many ques.
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better features and access for more customization.

mrandroid said:
Link below is for nexus one in general, carrier doesn't matter.
Saw your post after I replied. So after reading, I wouldn't have to root for the Froyo install? Just the steps you listed? Is the reason for rooting going from one rom to a newer or different one? Or do others have to do that because their phones are locked? Mine is unlocked cause with AT&T.
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erikclaw said:
mrandroid said:
Link below is for nexus one in general, carrier doesn't matter.
Saw your post after I replied. So after reading, I wouldn't have to root for the Froyo install? Just the steps you listed? Is the reason for rooting going from one rom to a newer or different one? Or do others have to do that because their phones are locked? Mine is unlocked cause with AT&T.
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all nexus ones are unlocked lol. and yes you do not need root for froyo and there are ways to downgrade to an official 2.1. an unlocked bootloader allows you to run unofficial roms cooked up by people and lets you flash anything you want.
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mrandroid said:
Link below is for nexus one in general, carrier doesn't matter.
Saw your post after I replied. So after reading, I wouldn't have to root for the Froyo install? Just the steps you listed? Is the reason for rooting going from one rom to a newer or different one? Or do others have to do that because their phones are locked? Mine is unlocked cause with AT&T.
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you don't need root for froyo but you need the correct zip to flash.
theres one for people with root access and the other is signed by google.
you bought an unlocked phone but your bootloader is still locked.

just make sure you follow the 2 prerequisites first, then follow the instructions on that post. you'll be good to go.

dudebro said:
you don't need root for froyo but you need the correct zip to flash.
theres one for people with root access and the other is signed by google.
you bought an unlocked phone but your bootloader is still locked.[
So I would have to root to make my phone able to run Froyo? Correcting the zip to flash is making it able to run flash? I know it is elementary but not sinking in.
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dudebro said:
you don't need root for froyo but you need the correct zip to flash.
theres one for people with root access and the other is signed by google.
you bought an unlocked phone but your bootloader is still locked.[
So I would have to root to make my phone able to run Froyo? Correcting the zip to flash is making it able to run flash? I know it is elementary but not sinking in.
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no, you do not need root to run froyo.

miketlo said:
erikclaw said:
all nexus ones are unlocked lol. and yes you do not need root for froyo and there are ways to downgrade to an official 2.1. an unlocked bootloader allows you to run unofficial roms cooked up by people and lets you flash anything you want.
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ok, thanks for the info.
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So basically, Nexus reads and loads roms etc like a computer? For new programs etc sometimes you need to upgrade driver ie zip to flash

dudebro said:
you don't need root for froyo but you need the correct zip to flash.
theres one for people with root access and the other is signed by google.
you bought an unlocked phone but your bootloader is still locked.
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since I don't have to root then I have root access?

erikclaw said:
since I don't have to root then I have root access?
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nope... I must be confusing you.
- you do not have root access after flashing froyo
- no you don't need root to flash it
- follow the steps in the thread and you will be fine

You do not have to root to run froyo. There are two flavors of Froyo floating around the net. They are the same OS version, but each can be used on a different setup.
One is a .zip signed by Google that can be flashed on an untouched/stock Nexus One, i.e. a locked bootloader. It's just a simple option selection in the bootloader to enter recovery mode. Recovery is where the updates are flashed.
The other version of Froyo that is out there is one that has root enabled, which is not signed by Google, and can only be flashed using a bootloader that is unlocked. Remember everything is flashed in recovery mode. By unlocking the bootloader you are able to replace the default recovery (which only allows the installation of signed files) with a custom one. The custom recovery allows you to flash unsigned files, many of which have root access.
In short, unlocking a bootloader does not give you root. It simply provides a mechanism by which you can flash an update that has root.
The signed file is only available for the T-Mobile 3G frequency phone thus far. It can still be flashed on an ATT one, but additional steps are required.

Do I have to root for AT&T?

Like to try a rom, but read AT&T required rooting in order to flash. Can this be confirmed?

If you mean custom ROMs then yea any custom rom requires root. Doesn't matter if it's at&t or t-mobile

Big_O said:
Like to try a rom, but read AT&T required rooting in order to flash. Can this be confirmed?
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Are you referring to updating your AT&T to Froyo, if so, you have asked the wrong question and will receive the wrong answer.

Thought that was the case. Read some posts that said TMO didn't need to root for custom roms, but logic says yes. Thanks.

Big_O said:
Thought that was the case. Read some posts that said TMO didn't need to root for custom roms, but logic says yes. Thanks.
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you are confusing installing froyo, with installing a custom rom

I was going to ask a similar question. From what I understand, to get Froyo (FRF72) on my AT&T N1, I need to first put the TMO ROM on it and then can use the update.zip to FRF50 and then the newly released update.zip for FRF72. To get the orginal TMO ROM on it, do I just need to unlock the bootloader or is root also required?

[QUESTION] Root FRF91 without touching boot loader

I know the update was a security fix but am looking for a method to root while remaining as completely stock as humanly possible. I've never rooted before and am still completely stock now.
Best case scenario would be to gain root while leaving everything stock, boot loader, recovery, etc.. maybe even try one of them nice roms for the first time (i hear cyrogen is the best and yes I probably misspelled that)
Thanks
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Same question

There's a couple of tutorials about this in another thread.
If I were you i'd follow one of them and also install a custom recovery. Then play around all you like with rooted roms, stock, custom or otherwise. Once you have a custom recovery you can flash anything. The only down side is that you won't be able to install any OTA roms. But to be honest they appear on XDA in a format you can use on custom recovery way way before you ever receive an OTA notification anyway.
Then if you're sure you only want a stock but rooted rom, then install that and then finally flash the stock recovery back.
However if you're sure you don't want a custom recovery and only want root, you can follow the first half of the same tutorials.
I myself have an unlocked bootloader, but if I didnt, I would root, install a custom recovery and never look back. If anything ever happened to my device i'd just flash the stock recovery and stock firmware and send it back.

Ok, thanks!

That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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viper2g1 said:
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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No, thats the point. You dont need to unlock to root OR put a custom recovery anymore. See here for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
So you can root, put on a custom recovery, try different roms and then go back to stock, rooted or not, without unlocking the bootloader at all.

I see what your getting at, that's what I was looking for but wasn't sure it was working for FRF91 the last few posts in that thread indicated an unlocked boot loader last time I looked.
I thought the update was to fix the security hole that allowed that
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I have read a lot of comments on the guide of how root the nexus without unlocking the bootloader and searched in other places but couldn't find an answer to my question...
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
If I can, how do I do it? some people wrote that I need to use Passimg.zip
but I think It's for T-mo version only because at&t's version doesn't have the erf79 (I hope I wrote it right).
anyway I'm really confused. can someone please explain?
thanks

I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
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Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.

RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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they should work in the same way as it did for FRF83 or FRF85B.. you could always try without harm

RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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this link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717870
is a guide of how to downgrade from FRF91 to FRF85 in an unrooted nexus.
that way you can use this tut and root it w/o touchnig the bootloader

EPE76 to frf85B
Hi,
I am back from frf91 ota to EPE76 by applaing passimg.zip. My question is how can I move to frf85B ? I've tried to download universal frf85B, change name to update.zip and go to recovery, but I only see exclemation mark. Please advise. Thank you.

[Q] How to root HTC One

I've had the HTC One since January and would now like to root it. Whats the easiest and current way to go about doing this? Thanks.

Unlock, custom recovery, flash root.
How many ways are there?

BenPope said:
Unlock, custom recovery, flash root.
How many ways are there?
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Could you please link me to a guide on doing this? Thanks
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if you upgraded to 4.4.2 (sense 6.0) recently, as far as I know there isn't a root method out right now because the other day I tried a bunch of older ways with no luck. I was using weaksauce before but since I upgraded I haven't been able to achieve a root. If anyone knows a way please post.

There: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40946925

1. Bootloader unlock at htcdev.
2. Flash custom recovery in fastboot.
3. Copy rooted rom to phone, flash in recovery.
There are guides for all of this available various places if you search.

duder01 said:
if you upgraded to 4.4.2 (sense 6.0) recently, as far as I know there isn't a root method out right now because the other day I tried a bunch of older ways with no luck. I was using weaksauce before but since I upgraded I haven't been able to achieve a root. If anyone knows a way please post.
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Sounds like your on Verizon ..the GSM phones are different

yea sorry forgot to mention its a verizon phone, I know there are the methods for gsm. So any help with verizon would be great.

duder01 said:
yea sorry forgot to mention its a verizon phone, I know there are the methods for gsm. So any help with verizon would be great.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one

[Q] flashing roms & towelroot & lock bootloader

Hi all.
I was a big xda user / developer around the times of x8 / x10.
Things have changed alot
I've now got Xperia sp and is rooted via towelroot and Installed the recoveries. Bootloader is still locked and I am on stock everything
I NEED help. Can I flash a custom rom. Really want to but not.sure.if this will brick my phone. So here I am asking.for help
Thanks in advance and.if.you help I'll be clicking your thanks button.
Thanks again

Yes you can install custom roms, head over the roms zone and find the ones that in their names says "LB" which means Locked bootloader, the ones that say "UBL" are for unlocked bootloader and if the roms says both it means they work on both locked and unlocked bootloader

xAD3r1ty said:
Yes you can install custom roms, head over the roms zone and find the ones that in their names says "LB" which means Locked bootloader, the ones that say "UBL" are for unlocked bootloader and if the roms says both it means they work on both locked and unlocked bootloader
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Hey thanks mate, I was wondering what lb stood for. Not be too long until I am contributing to builds here. I use to help build kernel and bug fixes on xda back in 2010
I love the android Dev section just don't want to brick my.device
Thanks again

Where is thanks button gone?
Also can I flash rom just like I use to
Download on my phone put in sd card boot to recovery then.flash
Going.to go for it soon will keep you informed what roms I try etc

Found the thanks button.
Need more help before I will flash a rom if you can pal?
I have build number end In.. . 205
Does a custom rom I want have to have same build number as my stock rom
Can I install this rom onto my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2654422
I see now I must flash. 254. And.root via doomlord
That guy needs a medal, he's been awesome in this.scene from the beginning

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2758935
Please do me a favour and have a look at that
Can I install it I have root via towelroot and have recoveries installed and.the same build number 12.1.a.1.205?

Yes you can, that rom is for both LB and UBL, and thanks alot mate! i've been browsing xda for a long time now but never had a chance or didn't want to make an account, but oh well, anyway's.. i think there might be better roms for you to try, that one seems like it won't get any more updates..
Also, there's cm, paranoid, pac-man for Locked bootloader, you can take a look on them too
Just make a backup of your current rom in case you want to go back
And sorry for the late reply, wasn't at home!

What about the build number do I have to find one same as my.stock build number.

Nah, anyways, there's a FTF thread that has stock firmwares to download in case you want to flash stock firmware via FlashTools