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Does anyone experience a "white shadow" problem on n1's screen?
when i read a document, i notice the margin area is not purely white, but there's "shadow" of text on the right
is this a amoled limitation of is it just me?
I will try to take photo if the explanation is not clear enough
another issue is that i've always found the n1's screen color to have a red hue
same for this, is it just me or do you have similar experiences?
Hey, no red hue but i do sometimes have a 'white shadow effect' which i notice looking at text, such as reading an email [not 100% sure if this is same problem as yours tho].
i was worried that this might be a problem with the screen but its just a fingerprint issue - all you need to do is wipe the screen!!
the finger prints left on the screen were what caused my white shadow, wipe the screen clean and all the text is evenly black.
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I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.
I have the odd ghost shadows when reading black text on a white background too.
boxmander said:
I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.
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I see this too. I just chalked it up to a byproduct of AMOLED screens or something. Doesn't really bother me and I don't really notice it that much either.
boxmander said:
I have also seen this phenomenon, specifically in the web browser when there is a white background with back text. It doesn't happen all the time, but its fairly visable when it does. Perhaps this is a defective amoled screen issue? Or maybe just amoled screen artifacts.... not sure. Anyone else seen this?
Also this isn't a fingerprint issue, happens on perfectly clean screen.
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hmm that's strange because i do sometimes have exactly the same problem and can see the problem disappear as i wipe the screen. From my limited knowledge about amoled screens it seems unlikely that the pixels could be experiencing some sort of 'come and go' problem such as this. If someone could put up a picture...
Well for the record this is a very minor issue, I like my N1 a lot, its hardly noticeable. However I am interested in investigating it, and attempting to take pictures of the effect was well, less then fruitful.
It turns out my digital camera doesn't take pictures up close that well, its actually pretty terrible. I was trying to get a screen shot app to try to capture it but the ones on the market are only for root users, and I haven't made the plunge into root, yet.
kiddyfurby said:
another issue is that i've always found the n1's screen color to have a red hue
same for this, is it just me or do you have similar experiences?
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I have this problem and it's very off-putting.
Does anyone know if it's theoretically possible to calibrate the screen à la a computer monitor to reduce this reddish casting? In greyscale photos all shades have a very noticeable pink tone (not photos taken by the phone's camera).
I'm giving this thread a kick, because I also experience this 'problem' of having (faint but clearly visible) ghost lines or 'white shadow' when viewing small text/objects (Nexus One), especially noticeable in the browser. The weird thing is, it completely disappears when switching to landscape mode. Turning the brightness down worsens the phenomenon.
It is also reported at Google's Android support, sadly I can't report the link because of my newbie restrictions I also found one report of the Desire having this problem.
I would ask felow Nexus owners if they want to turn down their brightness and report if they also see this ghosting in portrait view (i.e. when viewing an article on nytimes.com fully zoomed out), so we can conclude if this is an insoluble AMOLED related issue or an actual screen defect of your phone (RMA/waranty-issue).
I have the text ghost image on white background. I thought it was software issue, but since it disappears in landscape view that might mean its a limitation of the pentile sub pixel layout.
I think this should explain it. It's not really the AMOLED, but how the "pixels" are actually laid out.
arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/03/secrets-of-the-nexus-ones-screen-science-color-and-hacks.ars
I read that this issue doesn't occur in the old Dolphin browser. I don't have my phone with me right now. Can someone try it? I doubt it has anything to do with the pentile subpixel arrangement. I mean if the part of the screen is supposed to be white, the pixel should display white, not grey. Probably a software issue, IMO.
I just checked, shadows on both. It's a screen thing.
My bad. You weren't using the Dolphin HD browser, were you?
Thank for your replies I don't think it is the browser though, the same problem persists in Gmail, Adobe PDF Reader and Documents togo, I suggest you use one of these applications to look at small text on low brightness. It might be a little more noticeable in de browser, but looks like it isn't a pure software issue. Can you confirm this finding?
@voiceunebunu: yes, I've read that, but that article concentrates on text fuzziness etc. because of the PenTile arrangement, but does not mention this 'ghosting-like' effect.
Of course this isn't such a 'big deal': I would rather have my screen calibrated so it doesn't show up al reddish and get a better screen view in daylight, but hey, I knew about those problems before I bought the Nexus, but this one seams to be very sparsely documented on the internet.
This effect reminds me of the first, monochrome LCD-displays, which also had this problem (only 100x times worse), especially if they grew older.
Possible work around?
Hi everyone,
I've found a work around for this!
Cyanogen 6 has a feature called "Render effect" and basically, there are options to change what and how colours are displayed.
The last three "calibrated" seem to be for the Nexus specifically. I've used all three and the "calibrated" and "calibrated (cool)" are my favourite. Both slightly change the colour output.
There is a slight yellow tint over whites. For my screen the ghost lines are greatly reduced (it used to be visible with normal size text and exceptionally bad when zoomed out). Now its only slightly visible when zoomed out!
Hope that helps!
Sorry for yet another camera app battle but so far, I haven't seen the two being compared against each other.
Since I found the Twisty Switch Xposed module, I've wanted to change the camera app into one of these two apps.
My MAIN uses for the camera are just to take pictures of documents [therefore I need the text to be seen clearly] and to take pictures of everyday things [in bright lighting]. I'm also looking to see which does better in taking pictures in yellow lighting [light isn't white bright, but it isn't dark either]. So, which better suits my needs.
Why don't you use both and see for yourself? Obviously FV-5 is going to give you more control.
I can't use FV-5 because whenever I change the ISO mode to lower value the images coming through the viewfinder get very poor framerates to become unusable. It's not a problem of the app or a specific device, both my Moto X have it regardless of apps used, it's just something to do with the Moto X camera.
Seems that the camera app has some sort of bug, in decent light the right (espectially towards the top) side of photos are completely blurred compared to the top, bottom and left edges. its not a hardware issue but software related, I tried Google Camera which helps a bit, but the one than completely sorts out the issue is an app called Open Camera, not the most modern of UI's and maybe a bit clunky but its sorts out the blurriness completely. So, if IQ is important use this app. I'm not sure Motorolla will ever sort this out (its evident on Lollipop and Marshmallow, but not sure if its on all models, I'm using the XT1097).
Take a landscape type shot of foliage (trees/garden etc) with all 3 apps then compare.
see these examples (crops from the top right corner at 100%) the left side crop is from Open Camera and the right side from the motorola camera app.
Hey,
I'm rocking a tmobile 128gb blue note 9 and it takes takes some nice photos but I as I was playing around in my house after sunset(night) I took a photo of my couch. I have my ceiling light on, and low and behold there was a HUGE yellow tint to the photos. Not like a filter but more like the default white balance and tone were completely off. Used my moms iphone 7, and the photo was more natural in color from the same angle and lighting. Also swapped cameras and tried my note's front camera and the lighting was also normal. When I use the camera in natural light, the colors are fine and pictures beautiful.
https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4/457879-photos-yellow-help.html
Googled it and found similar issues, tho thats a note 4.... Any ideas how I could fix this? The photo still has a ton of detail..it just seems again the default white balance and tone is way way off resulting in an inaccurate color scheme. I can post photos tonight when the sun goes down if it helps clarify
Thanks for reading guys !
EDIT: uploaded the reference images from a later post to the main post. 1st image is the yellow hue one from the back, the front camera is the second image and you can see the image is..normal.
I'd be interested to see an example, are you sure the White balance isn't just incorrect?
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willhemmens said:
I'd be interested to see an example, are you sure the White balance isn't just incorrect?
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Here are two photos using an apple as reference...notice the one w/ the back camera is much more yellow in hue than the front camera. I wish the back camera was similar in color to the front colors.
Found this article:
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-camera-review-900461/
It seems the note 9 actually may be crappy at determing the right white balance/temp with poor light which leads me to think, if this is the case then why does the back struggle while the front is able to do it properly?
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I agree, lower lightphotos get pretty yellowish. Seems easily fixable with a patch. I hope it is.
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I agree, lower lightphotos get pretty yellowish. Seems easily fixable with a patch. I hope it is.
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Thank you for the reply.
I googled a review and it seems to be the case with low light, easily fixable with any photo editing software. You want 2500k for indoor photos, which is what I adjusted the white balance to and then wham, perfect.
The front camera doesnt have this issue, but the back does? What gives? It's obviously a software issue...
I was worried I had a defective unit, but it's safe to say it may just be samsung's software?
Yeah after reading your comment, I used Snapseed and TOOLS - White Balance - AW (auto) on my 3 previously posted photos. Before/after comparison:
EDIT: sorry Ⅰ messed up, some of them came as thumbnails and the newer ones as full size images. To compare it is better if you click-open them all on different tabs and switch between the tabs.
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Yeah after reading your comment, I used Snapseed and TOOLS - White Balance - AW (auto) on my 3 previously posted photos. Before/after comparison:
EDIT: sorry Ⅰ messed up, some of them came as thumbnails and the newer ones as full size images. To compare it is better if you click-open them all on different tabs and switch between the tabs.
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Can only see the before photos, maybe use imgur instead or upload to the forum instead?
Yeah well, if my unit isnt defective and this is widespread perhaps maybe we can get a few more people to test it and submit it to samsung?
Maybe nothing happens but hey worth a shot....it really does seem like an easy fix(hopefully)
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Can only see the before photos, maybe use imgur instead or upload to the forum instead?
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Fixed. Now that I fixed it btw, I guess Using Snapseed Auto White did not really give the best results. Only improved the lighting a little. I should try the 2500K thing properly..
BTW what app do you use? All apps I tried until now do not let me specify 2500K, but instead, have a + / - % adjustment slider.
Low light performance is bad beside my old p20 pro
Here's Photoshop Express' magic wand (attached).
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Low light performance is bad beside my old p20 pro
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Low light performance is actually pretty impressive.
Here's DXO's Note 9 Low light test vs P20 Pro Low light test.
Note 9 takes the win imo.
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Fixed. Now that I fixed it btw, I guess Using Snapseed Auto White did not really give the best results. Only improved the lighting a little. I should try the 2500K thing properly..
BTW what app do you use? All apps I tried until now do not let me specify 2500K, but instead, have a + / - % adjustment slider.
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I took my photo originally in pro mode, with 'save jpeg and raw photos' enabled. I used all auto in pro anyways, so it's the same as auto just also saves in raw...
I then edited my photo in snapseed, which then prompts snapseed to open its raw editor. You aren't given as much to work with as with a jpeg.. but you can adjust the basic settings such as temp, wb, etc.
Anyways, when you're in 'raw mode' in snapseed, it shows you the default temperature(i guess JPEG doesnt save that info?) and you can slide it down to whatever temperature and eyeball it to see what looks good. Every one of my photos taken indoors with a yellowlish light, if i simply edit it...it becomes normal.
Here's a chart actually for WB: https://www.shopmoment.com/momentist/how-to-shoot-manual-white-balance
Now the question is, why is it that indoors my front camera produces auto photos with perfect white balance but when I use my rear camera, it has a messed up white balance when taken in a room with yellowish lights? You obviously have the same issue, so I think we can rule out defects. I noticed the yellowlish tint/white balance being off in some example low light photos at night actually where theres yellow light present in some reviews of the camera on various websites. This seems like a system wide thing, and would be great if maybe some others could test it out so we could make some noise?
Nope ....
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Nope ....
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Nope what? If you're referring to off wb, it only appears to happen when the main light is yellow. Otherwise, the camera works fine. Went outside last night and took a photo, it's very good in low light. Inside with the lights on(mine are yellowish in hue)? Photos come out wrong.
In your case...seems to be no major yellow light source.
My photo, willhemmens photo with the skulls and the photo here( https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...21378-yellow-hue-photos-help.html#post6389992 ) with the yellow hue. For some reasons, photos under yellow light are producing off balance hues. Any other light? works perfectly....
Least my case, but maybe I have a defect? It's what im trying to figure out, but it seems like others are experiencing the same. Don't wanna go in for a warranty claim if I don't have too.
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Nope what? If you're referring to off wb, it only appears to happen when the main light is yellow. Otherwise, the camera works fine. Went outside last night and took a photo, it's very good in low light. Inside with the lights on(mine are yellowish in hue)? Photos come out wrong.
In your case...seems to be no major yellow light source.
My photo, willhemmens photo with the skulls and the photo here( https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...21378-yellow-hue-photos-help.html#post6389992 ) with the yellow hue. For some reasons, photos under yellow light are producing off balance hues. Any other light? works perfectly....
Least my case, but maybe I have a defect? It's what im trying to figure out, but it seems like others are experiencing the same. Don't wanna go in for a warranty claim if I don't have too.
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Yes the low light indoors is yellowish sometimes.
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Perhaps I'm doing it wrong, but I just can't get the panorama mode to work properly with the S10+.
I have 2 major gripes with it:
The panorama doesn't go all the way around, so I don't get a full 360 degree panoramic photo
The photos always come out distorted/stretched when viewed elsewhere
With issue one, it only seems to take about 350 degrees, so I end up with a stitch that doesn't quite work out when I view the photo later. Apps like Google Photos helpfully turn these types of images into something similar to being there and rotating on the spot but because the phone doesn't seem to take a full photo this doesn't work properly.
On issue two, when viewing the photos in Google Photos or even Facebook, they try to make these images into a photosphere type image, so 360 degrees along the X and Y axis. The trouble is, even though these photos are taken with the wide angle camera, it stretches the image upwards and distorts it to get that 360 view. LG wide angle cameras (at least on the G6 which is the last one I owned) add about 10 degrees to the top and the bottom of a pano photo using AI to match the colours at the top and bottom (e.g. extra blue at the top for sky). This results in a blurry patch at the top and bottom of the photosphere, but also prevents the main part of the image being distorted.
Its a shame about both of these "features" as otherwise I'm pretty happy with the camera, but having distorted panoramas is not great.