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I bought a captivate 3 days ago (in Canada), and I had previously an HTC magic and did tons of tinkering (G1/MT3G have serious development.. kinda dying down sadly.. )
Obviously, I started looking into rooting captivate as well, and other stuff. Just wanted to ask people stuff if I can get them answered.
What is the purpose of ODIN other than flashing your phone back to stock? It is a great program, but I am used to just wiping data and flashing a new update.zip from recovery to get a flash a new ROM. Not wiping from 2.1 eclair to get to cognition kind of threw me off. Can I not use ODIN and go the traditional way and flash the update.zip's?
Also, from ODIN, what exactly is master clear? Does it wipe off everything in the phone? Why would this be preferred over a factory reset from recovery?
I tried googling/looking through captivate dev and couldn't find the answers. Thank you!!
koreancanuck said:
I bought a captivate 3 days ago (in Canada), and I had previously an HTC magic and did tons of tinkering (G1/MT3G have serious development.. kinda dying down sadly.. )
Obviously, I started looking into rooting captivate as well, and other stuff. Just wanted to ask people stuff if I can get them answered.
What is the purpose of ODIN other than flashing your phone back to stock? It is a great program, but I am used to just wiping data and flashing a new update.zip from recovery to get a flash a new ROM. Not wiping from 2.1 eclair to get to cognition kind of threw me off. Can I not use ODIN and go the traditional way and flash the update.zip's?
Also, from ODIN, what exactly is master clear? Does it wipe off everything in the phone? Why would this be preferred over a factory reset from recovery?
I tried googling/looking through captivate dev and couldn't find the answers. Thank you!!
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Odin is a windows program leaked from samsung for flashing the galaxy s phone - can be used to flash kernel, firmware or modem or all three at once - NOT used to flash update.zip
Odin 3 one click is for flashing back to stock was made available by dg as a simple recovery method in case of a soft bricked phone or if you flashed your phone and wanted to get back to stock.
Master clear in odin wipes all or most all the data from your internal sd card - I believe factory reset just wipes user settings, cache and account info
with samsung update.zip are flashed via recovery as I am guessing is nearly the same way you have done on other phones
As you can tell there are multiple methods for flashing, spend time reading and learning about them until you have a good understanding about what you are doing with each
Of by the way there is also rom manager clockwork recovery (can get rom manager from the market and install once you are rooted) - don't get this confused with stock recovery
dayv said:
Odin is a windows program leaked from samsung for flashing the galaxy s phone - can be used to flash kernel, firmware or modem or all three at once - NOT used to flash update.zip
Odin 3 one click is for flashing back to stock was made available by dg as a simple recovery method in case of a soft bricked phone or if you flashed your phone and wanted to get back to stock.
Master clear in odin wipes all or most all the data from your internal sd card - I believe factory reset just wipes user settings, cache and account info
with samsung update.zip are flashed via recovery as I am guessing is nearly the same way you have done on other phones
As you can tell there are multiple methods for flashing, spend time reading and learning about them until you have a good understanding about what you are doing with each
Of by the way there is also rom manager clockwork recovery (can get rom manager from the market and install once you are rooted) - don't get this confused with stock recovery
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So I'm understanding master clear doesn't wipe the actual ROM? Wouldn't master clear just be the same as just deleting all the stuff from the internal sd card via my laptop?
And thanks for your answers I never used clockwork till now, was using amon_RA recovery cuz it gave some problems to G1/MT3G users but it seems to work wonders on captivate.
Is it ok to upgrade from Assonance 5.2 to Cognition 3.04 directly? or do I have to go back to stock and then upgrade?
Thanks
green
I think the recommended way is to go back to stock and flash.
It is recommended to return to stock first.
Having said that, I have flashed about 100 times, and never returned to stock first. If the ROM has a wipe, and no wipe option, just choose the WIPE version, and you should be OK.
If your NEW to flashing - I would suggest going back to stock.
I would read the instructions of the chef/developer on if you need to disable any type of lagfixes etc before attempting to flash over the top of another ROM.
And the reason for flashing back to stock as it will wipe all remnants of the prior ROM (where it matters) from your phone letting you kind of start "fresh". This prevents any type of conflicts (i.e. forgot to disable the prior lagfix) and soft bricking your phone.
So - flash away as long as you understand how to recover from a failed flash.
Do not use odin 1 click if you have a build 1010 phone. There is a longer route you have to take to get back to stock. In general, just erase all user data from clockwork if you have the red recovery and are moving to another rom with the voodoo lagfix. Save odin for brick situations or if you are having problems.
Can =/= should. Spare yourself the trouble and time later, and just spend the time now to do it right. Backup, flash stock, master clear, load new ROM. No guesses, no trouble.
thanks folks so, if I have to flash to stock, can I use the stock rom saved/backed up in clockworks when I originally flashed? or is there any other method I should follow?
thanks
One click odin has the OEM ATT ROM built into it. Bloatware and all.
Hi all, I could really really use some help.
Today I decided to try and flash CM9 RC2 and I seem to have messed up big time.
I startred by rooting, using Dr Ketan's guide. That all went smoothly, and root was working.
I put the CM9 zip file on the SD card, turned off my phone, got back into CWM recovery, and most tutorials recommended, selected full data wipe... this is where something seemed to go wrong. While perfoming the data wipe, it seemed to freeze. I let it sit for a while, hoping it would sort itself out, but it didn't, and then it rebooted itself and went into a boot loop.
I can't get back into recovery mode, but I can get into download mode. So I thought the best thing to do would be to flash a stock firmware using odin.
I downloaded the latest german LRG firmware (which I was on before I started) from Sammobile, connected my phone to odin, selected the MD5 file, and pushed start. Again, this is where I got stuck. It just hangs on Nand write start. I've tried this twice now, and it gets stuck at the same stage (about 90% finished)
I have no idea what to do now and really need help. I'm not a total n00b, or at least I thought I wasn't, but I seem to have gotten in way over my head. What should I do?
Edit: see you tried already...
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This is classical case of super brick.
You should not hav to wipe on ics. I think u must be on stock kernel. Every corner you may see warning, wiping and reset on ics can brick device, but its unfortunate you didn't notice it.
Anyway check your flash counter is zero and send it to service.centre to claim ur warranty.
If u running out of warranty, fing.a link for 'how to revice bricked note from my signature. And try it.
Edit : i wud like to know, as you said u went to cwm recovery, so at the time of wiping you wr on which kernel?
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purple zebra said:
Hi all, I could really really use some help.
Today I decided to try and flash CM9 RC2 and I seem to have messed up big time.
I startred by rooting, using Dr Ketan's guide. That all went smoothly, and root was working.
I put the CM9 zip file on the SD card, turned off my phone, got back into CWM recovery, and most tutorials recommended, selected full data wipe... this is where something seemed to go wrong. While perfoming the data wipe, it seemed to freeze. I let it sit for a while, hoping it would sort itself out, but it didn't, and then it rebooted itself and went into a boot loop.
I can't get back into recovery mode, but I can get into download mode. So I thought the best thing to do would be to flash a stock firmware using odin.
I downloaded the latest german LRG firmware (which I was on before I started) from Sammobile, connected my phone to odin, selected the MD5 file, and pushed start. Again, this is where I got stuck. It just hangs on Nand write start. I've tried this twice now, and it gets stuck at the same stage (about 90% finished)
I have no idea what to do now and really need help. I'm not a total n00b, or at least I thought I wasn't, but I seem to have gotten in way over my head. What should I do?
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Hi Bud,
From your predicament, first let me tell you what you have done wrong.... You mentioned you're in LRG Rom already and you wanted to flash CM9 after that.... right?
Well, I guess the process you did was totally wrong. You have to download stock GB N7000(from Dr. Ketan's thread) and using that stock GB Rom, that is the time you can install AbysNote kernel to root and install CWM on your phone. Now after that, download mobile ODIN (from google playstore) and flash the CM9 from there.
THAT's the one you should have done before. Remember, there are no easy way of jumping ROMS especially if your already in ICS... IF YOU WANT TO FLASH TO ANOTHER ICS ROM.
My rule of law would be to downgrade first to STOCK GB and from there, ROOT, install CWM and mobile ODIN and that'll be the time you can flash already to the new ICS ROM of your choice.
So here's what your going to do. Since your still able to boot in download mode, Download any stock GB ROM and flash it using PC ODIN. After that, seee if you can bootup your Note already to STOCK GB ROM. If and If you are able to already, then download a clean kernel preferably Abyss Kernel and flash it with your STOCK GB so that you can gain root and have CWM installed. From there, download Mobile Odin pro and flash the CM9 (that you ultimately want to be installed on your Note)
Hope everything's going to be fine and Good luck bud! :fingers-crossed:
Cheers!
Hello, I know its been several days, but I just wanted to update on the situation.
Thank you SO much to Dr.Ketan for pointing me in the right direction. A combination of these 2 guides (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661590&page=2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667886) has managed to help me repartition my internal memory and get up and running again. I've got a stock gingerbread rom running, and all seems to be well.
I realise I was very stupid to do a wipe on an ICS kernal. I read about the problem for 1 particular Kernal back in may, and hadn't read the updates since, and so didn't realise it effected EVERY ICS kernal since then. It's my own stupid fault for not re-reading the warnings. Let this be a lesson kiddies, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Again, thank you so much for the help, to all involved, you are an asset to the community!
Hello
Yesterday I ROOTED my phone, and have been trying to find a way to transfer my apps to my SD Card by unsuccessfully following various Tutorials.
I got fed up and tried to do a factory reset using the CWM v5.0.2.6. I did a data/factory reset. I did not realise that the various formats of a second partition would wipe my entire SD card and the factory reset did not go well.
Since that moment my phone has continually cycled from the Samsung logo, to the flying logo and back to the Samsung logo.
However I did a backup of my SD Card yesterday and I tried to use that backup to restore my phone. But no joy.
Is my phone dead?
the lemming said:
Hello
Yesterday I ROOTED my phone, and have been trying to find a way to transfer my apps to my SD Card by unsuccessfully following various Tutorials.
I got fed up and tried to do a factory reset using the CWM v5.0.2.6. I did a data/factory reset. I did not realise that the various formats of a second partition would wipe my entire SD card and the factory reset did not go well.
Since that moment my phone has continually cycled from the Samsung logo, to the flying logo and back to the Samsung logo.
However I did a backup of my SD Card yesterday and I tried to use that backup to restore my phone. But no joy.
Is my phone dead?
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Try to flash another Custom ROM but first make sure you do all the wipes and then install the ROM. Again do all the 3 wipes and reboot. This might work else try to use Odin and flash your Stock ROM first and see if everything is fine. If so, then try to root your Phone and then use Link2sd to move apps to sd card
OK
This is now serious, I have royally stuffed my phone.
Could somebody please explain what Odin is and what I need to use it and get my phone to work again?
Please.
the lemming said:
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This is now serious, I have royally stuffed my phone.
Could somebody please explain what Odin is and what I need to use it and get my phone to work again?
Please.
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What's wrong?
Read all this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313363 I explained how to flash a stock rom via Odin It'll restore all your partitions and provide you a Oficial firmware
Original hubix's guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034145
I have sucessfully (?) followed a tutorial on how to use Odin and a CWN recovery TAR file. ODIN did its thing and said that I had Passed.
However the tutorial did not say what to do next. My phone is cycling through the samsung and re-boot sequence and has done so for well over an hour.
Any ideas what I do next?
Cheers
the lemming said:
I have sucessfully (?) followed a tutorial on how to use Odin and a CWN recovery TAR file. ODIN did its thing and said that I had Passed.
However the tutorial did not say what to do next. My phone is cycling through the samsung and re-boot sequence and has done so for well over an hour.
Any ideas what I do next?
Cheers
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Yeah! After flashing an official firmware via Odin you may get a bootloop.
Solution: boot into stock recovery and do wipe data/factore reset and wipe cache partition
So do it always when you finish the procedure
I went to the SamMobile forum and downloaded the stock ROM for the UK and used Odin. However it was for Orange and not Virgin, who I bought my phone from The procedure worked, according to Odin.
I now have an Orange Samsung Ace.
The phone has booted up and all seems well.
Not sure if I will incur any extra charges with an Orange phone rather than a Virgin phone. But it has booted up.
What must I do to make sure this never happens again?
the lemming said:
I went to the SamMobile forum and downloaded the stock ROM for the UK and used Odin. However it was for Orange and not Virgin, who I bought my phone from The procedure worked, according to Odin.
I now have an Orange Samsung Ace.
The phone has booted up and all seems well.
Not sure if I will incur any extra charges with an Orange phone rather than a Virgin phone. But it has booted up.
What must I do to make sure this never happens again?
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No extra charges.
Read read read read and...READ carefully and then READ again and finally have a usable CWM backup
Avoid hard scripts like a2sdgui use the simpest scripts that you can, that don't touch you dalvik-cache partition e.g. If you wipe data/dalvik partiuon you might get troubles with a2sd script
Viper The Ripper said:
No extra charges.
Read read read read and...READ carefully and then READ again and finally have a usable CWM backup
Avoid hard scripts like a2sdgui use the simpest scripts that you can, that don't touch you dalvik-cache partition e.g. If you wipe data/dalvik partiuon you might get troubles with a2sd script
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I now have the joy of an unrooted phone. :-/
Looks like I will have to start this merry-go-round again just so that I can get my apps off the phone and onto the SD card.
Hello,
I am on latest stock firmware, and want to completely erase my phone and install a fresh copy of latest OS.
Now, I am not at all feeling comfortable in flashing myself as I am having limited knowledge and I fear I will end up screwing phone.
If I visit Samsung service center, they just reset the phone... when told to install fresh copy of OS.
So, what to tell them so they understand that I want all old OS related things to be deleted and install a fresh copy of OS. Also what I have to see to make sure they are indeed doing what I am saying... what will screen display ?
Sum pointers plz.
craige said:
Hello,
I am on latest stock firmware, and want to completely erase my phone and install a fresh copy of latest OS.
Now, I am not at all feeling comfortable in flashing myself as I am having limited knowledge and I fear I will end up screwing phone.
If I visit Samsung service center, they just reset the phone... when told to install fresh copy of OS.
So, what to tell them so they understand that I want all old OS related things to be deleted and install a fresh copy of OS. Also what I have to see to make sure they are indeed doing what I am saying... what will screen display ?
Sum pointers plz.
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Pointers:
1. Install a philz kernel.
2. Wipe all the partitions after that.
3. Download the stock firmware from sammobile.com or Dr Ketans thread from XDA (this thread also has instructions/how-to for how to flash using odin)
4. Use odin to flash stock rom in download mode.
Before you proceed and make any mistake read about all the above and understand the risk associated.
LOL. ok ill try not to laugh
goto settings about phone. check your version ... there may not be a update.
restart your phone "hold volume up and the menu button" when u get to factory recovery. use the "wipe/factory reset" that is as close as your going to get, (without using a custom rom). once done. u can goto the same "settings / about phone" and check "software update". if there is an update, you can download and apply it from there.
also check you have enough battery life before doing this.
R0B3RTF1SH3R said:
restart your phone "hold volume up and the menu button" when u get to factory recovery. use the "wipe/factory reset" that is as close as your going to get, (without using a custom rom)
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Cant I just go to settings and under backuo & reset --> factory data reset.
Is the this the same as the method u suggested above ?
First of all make sure wat u want to do, if updated stock firmware is wat u want then reset your phone and then update it if there is any.. this is the safe mode.
Now the other option u got is root it, install cmw, install kernel, n lastly custom ROM it will allow you to change CPU frequency and much more.. choose any custom ROM its olwAys better in the most criterias. But if you wanna stick to the stock ROM. . Just reset it.
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craige said:
Cant I just go to settings and under backuo & reset --> factory data reset.
Is the this the same as the method u suggested above ?
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yes, almost the same, except. none of the files will be in use. if you use the restart method.
actually i think if you do the FACTORY reset from the phone while its booted. it will just restart and do the same "recovery" method? right?
sorry been a while since i did booted WIPE.
@ sushantp606
judging from the responses and stuff here. I am thinking this user is not at the stage to consider the stuff you posted, they are only after a basic wipe and update of the rom.
The problem is everybody always speak abt wipe... I don't wana wipe, I wana install fresh clean copy of latest official OS.
Stock Rom Flashing
Hello Ketanji
I am a newbie ,but i have done few things and want to flash original rom .So i needed your help and suggestion .
I have rooted my phone into clockword recovery using some phzil zip file ,and tried several roms like jelly bean ...slim roms etc .But didnt liked it so restored my orginal which i took backup using clockword recovery before installing this rom .
So i wanted to know whether i can flash my note gt7000 or not ..I have read few forums which says its not safe to flash before knowing whether one has safe kernel or not ..and other things ...Can you please tell me how i should go about . And if i need to install safe kernel ..how can i do the same .
Please tell me more about the risks associated .And also can anyone send me link to download directly rootable or rooted original ROM for this mobile .
Hope to receive your repy soon .
Thank You.