I just used the phone for half a day and thoroughly enjoy it. On first impression, the phone is very light for the size and they give nice accessories considering the price; earphones, screen protector, case. The phone have an RGB notification light.
Interface:
-The interface is not stock Android, it's more like a modified version of MIUI. It's very usable once you install your choice of stock launcher, replace the default keyboard, and disable some of the bloat apps.
-Since it's not stock Android, I find it take a bit of time to get used to finding things in the Settings menu.
-The swipe up hardware toggles (Control center, similar to iPhone toggles) are pretty useful and more well organized than stock Android imo.
-Screen off gestures, you get many different commands (double tap on, camera, flashlight, customize your own, etc) and it work pretty good.
-Feature to display network speed on the notification bar
-"Close all" button in the recent apps menu.
-There is a feature to modify apps permissions called "Permissions of App".
-I can not find the shortcut to "Smart Lock" window anywhere, even though it is supported in the OS, if you pair a bluetooth device it will display the notification to enable it. But there seems to be no way to get to the actual Smart Lock window to enable other smart lock features, or I miss it somewhere.
Performance:
I installed all my programs pretty quick. I don't see any lag issues. All the apps launches fast and run smoothly. I don't intend to play any heavy games on a $100 phone, all the light games I play like Subway Surfer and Horizon Chase have no lags.
Connection:
Cell: The dual sim feature seems to work good. I still have to to test the signal quality, but I have to say the data speed is average. I get about 10 to 12mbps down for T-Mobile LTE speed test.
Bluetooth: I'm happy to report the Bluetooth have good performance, the motion of people lips in videos are in synced with the audio from the bluetooth speaker.
WiFi: Can reach high speed, no problem.
GPS: No problem.
Storage:
There is a strange quirk with the phone which is by default your microSD is acts as the main 'internal storage' of the phone (sdcard0), and the actual internal storage act as external (sdcard1). So it would help if you use a fast microSD. I think this is because I have the microSD inserted the first time I set up the phone. Maybe this problem can be prevented by not inserting the microSD for the first time you boot up the phone. I don't know, but I'll just live with it.
Display:
The screen is very nice for a 5.5" 720p AMOLED display. It's not going to be sharp, but it the pixels are smooth so you don't get so much of that pixelation effect. Pretty much deep black, saturated colors and good viewing angles you expect from AMOLED. It's definitely not the brightest of display though, so you might have some problem under direct sunlight.
Camera: I haven't used it too much, but it's pretty average. Like all lower end camera, it have issue with under/over exposure, also the white balance is really off on auto mode. I like the manual mode that let you control the ISO and shutter speed. It's no where bad in good lighting condition, I'd say it takes good enough details for a budget phone.
Speaker: Very average, don't expect much here.
Charging: I used my Anker quick charger and it seems to charge the device fast and safely.
Ringtones selection:
The only thing I don't like is that if you have music in your phone, when you go to change the default ringtones, it will display every single songs in your phone and you have to scroll through it. The way to remedy this is to use the file manager in the phone and create a file called ".nomedia" in your music folder, so the phone will not recognize songs in it. Once you set your desired ringtone, you can remove that file. Or you can simply use a third party app to do the job.
Aside from some quirks, I honestly have no complaints so far, I would have no problem paying the full $150 for this device. I definitely like it better than the Moto G3, except that Motorola phones tends to have superior signals and call quality compared to most other brands. I definitely will not use this phone without a case though since it's on the light side.
Couple of things I noticed
1. The navigation buttons at the bottom (Home, Back & Option) does not have backlight. Not sure if there is a LED there that can be enabled in settings. I couldn't find any setting for that.
2. The data connection drops from 4G LTE to 'H' (HSPA) when on a call.
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
Here are some photo samples. The main problem are over exposure, white balance detection and some lost of saturation. The quality suffers when you're indoor with less lights.
https://goo.gl/photos/j9BrJ7gcbDCXBQgD6
The LED notification light seem like its set a ways under the glass and has this really bright shining affect versus a little glow other devices have.
I must say, the amoled screen on this is quite impressive for $100 phone..
wifi and data speeds are very similar compared to my oneplus 2 (both running Tmobile)
I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
hamilLewiston said:
I noticed that the user cannot remove home screen icons. Like when you press and hold there's no option to remove the icon. Some apps show an option to uninstall. But for some pre installed apps there is no option to remove the icon.
Like Google chrome, opera browser, BLU help, amazon etc....
I don't want to uninstall the app, just remove from home screen.
Yea I noticed the LED light being very bright. I could read a book under that lighting.
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just use another launcher. google now, nova
eksasol said:
One of thing I notice about the Gallery app in this phone is there is an "Encrypt" option. If you press it accidentally it encrypt the file and move it into the "Pictures\.GallerySafe" folder. To access the encrypted photo, you have to "pinch outward" in the app.
No Smart Lock support: I tested and even though the smart lock feature turned on when you paired a bluetooth device, it actually doesn't work.
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The smart lock is really baffling. It prompts to turn on smart lock but never works after that.
tlxxxsracer said:
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thanks, that's what i finally did
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
I've been using the Honor 5X a bit today so here is a comparison.
Things I prefer on the Vivo XL:
-This is a faster device. Everything about the Blu is more responsive and I don't think it's down to just the 720p display. It seems that this Mediatek CPU is actually pretty decent, games are smoother on it as well. In comparison, Honor 5X is slightly sluggy, not just in the interface, but in apps as well. This is probably due to the EMUI OS on the Honor 5X.
-Blu's UI is actually easier to understand and getting used to, especially if you're not accustomed to MIUI style interface on the Honor 5X.
-I'm not sure if it's due to the screen protector preinstalled on the Honor 5X, but the Blu touchscreen is a bit more sensitive and responsive to touch. Though it's not bad on the Honor 5X.
-The slide up "Control Panel" on the Blu is more useful with lots of options. Hate to admit it, but I prefer this slide up behavior more than Android's default because it's faster being close to your thumb. The notification toggles for the Honor 5X is missing a few options, but not a big deal.
-Blu is thinner and more light weight.
-The USB Type C connector is god sent.
-Removable battery.
Prefer on the 5X:
-Sharper screen that is very bright, its actually brighter than some highend flagship devices. The viewing angle isn't great however, but that is non-problem because it's a phone, not a TV.
-The camera is (only) slightly better. It have a bit more details and much better handle at white balance. Although the Blu camera's tap to focus is faster and more responsive. At this price range, it's not a big difference between the two phones.
-While their EMUI interface takes time to learn, it have some useful features, such as network control for apps. This let you disable data or wifi access for any apps you want, which is a very useful security feature.
-Very nice metal body.
-Finger print scanner, which I don't use.
It's a bit hard to choose which phone I would use as the daily driver. I think that if you go with the Blu, the software is good enough that you don't need to install custom roms. If you go with the Honor 5X, I believe you will need to install custom roms if you want the most out of the performance. I would have to pick the Blu Vivo XL as better value for the money, since it performs better for $50 less, and may last longer due to removable battery and USB Type C connector (more durable than microUSB). Also I like it when companies throw in free phone case and headphones, which is lacking in the Honor 5X packaging.
hamilLewiston said:
so i found that there is an option on the desktop settings to 'hide' apps that you don't want to see on the desktop. it will hide the apps, with a password / pin. i'll post a guide later.
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wheres the guide?
Thanks you for this app
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was missed. I am the type of user who likes to use the phone at full brightness, as it does not seem to have a huge negative impact on my battery life in day to day operations.
I was looking carefully at the browser on the Galaxy and wondered why the whites looked so dimmed in comparison to other parts of the operating system.
I had already done the following:
1. Turned the OS brightness all the way up.
2. Turned browser brightness all the way up.
3. Disabled the screen power saving mode.
I then downloaded a flashlight application and maxed it to 100% while switching to the browser with the Home key multitask, and going back and forward between the flashlight app and the browser app, it is very clear that the browser is not pushing max brightness. Even though the brightness settings on both the OS and the browser are maxed, it seems as though the browser is capped to 80% brightness or so.
My friend also verified this during his test run, as he has just bought the Samsung Vibrant and noticed the same thing. I understand many will just leave the auto-brightness setting on, but that's not really addressing the issue here.
Is there a way for an XDA developer to correct this issue through a patch or ROM?
thanks
I checked with the shell and when brightness is at 100% it has an absolute value of 255, the same when I'm at the browser set with full brightness, so it seems it's working as it should.
You can check it with this command
Code:
cat /sys/devices/platform/s3cfb/spi_gpio.3/spi3.0/blacklight/s5p_bl/actual_brightness
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I checked with the shell and when brightness is at 100% it has an absolute value of 255, the same when I'm at the browser set with full brightness, so it seems it's working as it should.
You can check it with this command
Code:
cat /sys/devices/platform/s3cfb/spi_gpio.3/spi3.0/blacklight/s5p_bl/actual_brightness
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I don't know, I experience the same thing as the OP. Everything's bright, except when surfing the web.
Same issue here. I use Opera in bright daylight.
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If you go in to the brightness settings there is an option at the very bottom called "Power saving mode". I'm not sure if that is having any effect on the browser.
Thanks for the numbers, but I gotta say, just comparing the flashlight app and hitting the back arrow to toggle to the browser, it is beyond obvious that the browser is not as bright as the flashlight application. I used google with it's white background and zoomed in to an area that was just white to avoid other distractions.
This is the best way to test since there will be no transition in between the application toggle and you see the screen dim easily.
As indicated by my original post, I have also turned off the power saving feature so that is not a concern. Someone did say that the Behold 2 has the same cap for their browser and that this is a samsung specific setting that's probably there to save battery. I haven't been able to confirm it on that phone yet but just give the flashlight test a chance and you'll see.
oh one last thing i noticed is, when going from the browser back to the flashlight, sometimes the flashlight app is also dimmed at the same level brightness as the browser, but tapping the screen 'wakes' up the app into full brightness.
TGalaxy browser brightness
To me it's very obvious that the browser is dimmed down, I'd say more than to 80%... Having google as the default homepage couldn't make it more obvious when opening the browser! Samsung obviously thought that no one with a decent eyesight will buy their phone. Or anyone who feels capable of managing their phone's battery life themselves.
It's just one of those niggling things that had to be included, lessening the experience of an otherwise rather breathtaking phone. Another one is the compulsory vibration when charging is finished - makes me wonder when others, or the developers for that matter, charge their smartphones! I charge them overnight, and of course every night... or at least used to, as with the Galaxy S, I can no longer sleep.
I think I've been through every menu possible to change these couple of features, with no success... if anyone knows anything, please share.
It happens on the dim-side, too
I have the same problem, but on the dim side. The browser brightens the screen when it comes on if you have the brightness set to zero. I like it dimmed all the way at night if I'm reading in bed when the lights are out and my partner is asleep, but it keeps turning it up so it's pretty bright in the pitch dark. Arrgh. It's my phone, can't I set it the way I want? Grr.
I've read that there are limitations on how much the screen dims and brightens unless you have a rooted phone and you use an app that's not built into the OS.
I rooted mine and there are some configuration apps that will set it to 0, but I think the built-in operating system slider doesn't go all the way to zero and might not go all the way to 255 when you slide it to the very edges. Supposedly it only goes to 10 on the low side from the notes on some apps.
So, probably it's a similar limitation on the slider for the screen brightness in the browser. We're probably stuck with this problem until someone writes an app that lets you change this setting to any value between 0 and 255 since the default sliders don't allow the low side and I'm guessing not the high side either.
So . . . any android developers out there, it would be cool if you could make an app to change this setting if it's available programatically somewhere.
I tried the "Dimmer" and "Brightness!" apps from the market. But none of them 'Keep' the brightness at the minimum always.
Since everybody seems to upbeat about the Nexus 4, here some things that REALLY piss me off.
For reference, I am coming from a DEFY / CM9 and have at the same time here a new HTC One S / CM10. And then there would be a Nexus 7, and a Kindle Fire / CM10/SGT7.
Why on earth couldn't they have the normal buttons on the bottom, and instead needed to waste precious screen real estate ? I do understand that a 7 inch tablet needs that as it's turned between landscape and portrait. But for a phone ... After all there is space on the device, which is unused now ...
This little microSIM tray is nifty. Especially if you are at an airport, just bought the prepaid microSIM and try to put it in. You have the tool with you, right ?
The new and improved camera app stinks like heck. The device support ISO settings, different focus modi, red-eye removal ... the works. But the default application fails to expose ANY of that. I cannot even set the JPEG quality level ... EPIC fail.
Tried to use 720p video recording ? 22fps stuttering ...
Lockscreen widgets ... why on earth would I want to have that ? And why couldn't there just be a simply settings entry to disable that ? (yes, I know that there is now an app out there that gets rid of it ...)
The good old clock. Nice work. Tons of features. Way too many. Why split this over-engineered mess into "Alarm" and "Watch" and whatever ?
Battery drain ... Looks like a lot of the new features (some which I cannot uninstall per default) are sucking up processor time, like the "Mediaserver" (got the same apps/settings as on CM9/CM10, where this does not happen).
This new pulldown quick settings is nifty. Takes me now 2 clicks and one slide to toggle wireless ... much improved over the one-click toggle in CM9/CM10 (and HTC Sense, and TouchWhiz, and ...).
Overall I feel that 4.2 is a step back from 4.1, because every new feature that should make up 4.2 seems to be more in the way than anything else. The toy needs sooo urgently CM10 it's not even funny.
I totally agree with all your points, it's definitely a turd. Wanna sell it?
To your first point, I have a feeling that Google will eventually rethink the use of on-screen buttons and come up with a solution that occupies less real estate. The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was (e.g. click the icon in the upper-left corner to go back is already implemented in many apps) and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent; it's a carry-over from the past and poor UX design overall. The task switcher could quick easily become a hold and drag gesture from the home button or status bar with adding any additional steps to get to it.
Thinking something crazy like the tablet interface where the status bar moves to the bottom, gets a little wider, and houses the home button would be a good solution.
Why does... does... do you guys smell apples? I swear I think I do.
TheFiveDots said:
The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was [...] and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent
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What the... huh? Have you ever used android for longer than a few minutes?
The missing back button is the first thing I always cringe over whenever I have to handle an apple device at work, it's the best thing of the whole OS (well,at least it's pretty awesome)
And software buttons are the best solution in general, because they can hide and make place for more stuff on demand.
The "empty" space on the bottom of the nexus4 isn't because they thought they'd leave space there just for fun, there's space because it's needed for the hardware below.
If there were hardware buttons taking up the space the phone would be even bigger (or the screen smaller)
Instead of whinning about it why not try to do something about it.
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Yeah stop moaning and send it back.
Why keep a phone that "pisses" you off so much...
U mad bro?
Early adopter and complaining (very mad) that there are some updates needed............silly
Maybe u should sell it on eBay and make some money?
Or better......sell it to one of the great devs that are waiting for a device!!!!!!
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muspel said:
What the... huh? Have you ever used android for longer than a few minutes?
The missing back button is the first thing I always cringe over whenever I have to handle an apple device at work, it's the best thing of the whole OS (well,at least it's pretty awesome)
And software buttons are the best solution in general, because they can hide and make place for more stuff on demand.
The "empty" space on the bottom of the nexus4 isn't because they thought they'd leave space there just for fun, there's space because it's needed for the hardware below.
If there were hardware buttons taking up the space the phone would be even bigger (or the screen smaller)
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Yes. I have. Thanks for your assumptions though. Despite your "cringing", Apple's implementation of a dynamic "back button" at the top-left of nearly every iOS app is much more consistent and predictable.
On Android, sometimes the back button takes you back to the screen you were on previously on the same level, sometimes it takes you up a level, and sometimes it closes the app which is always surprising and annoying if you were not aware you were already at the root level. The home button closes an app, the back button doesn't need to. Google is even well aware of this unpredictably and has gone as far to draw up guidelines as to how it should be implemented, but many developers choose to ignore it.
Unpredictable behavior is bad UX design, plain and simple. Having a place in-app that takes you back and a hardware/software button that does the same is also redundant and unnecessary. Navigating an app should be natural and intuitive and all within the app, in my opinion. Hardware/software keys should be reserved for OS-level tasks like Home, Task Switching, etc.
I agree the software buttons are the best choice, but it would be nice to see them implemented in a much more dynamic and space-saving way.
The sim eject tool, aka paper clip.
TheFiveDots said:
To your first point, I have a feeling that Google will eventually rethink the use of on-screen buttons and come up with a solution that occupies less real estate. The back button is redundant and can easily be replaced in-app like the menu button was (e.g. click the icon in the upper-left corner to go back is already implemented in many apps) and its behavior is confusing and inconsistent; it's a carry-over from the past and poor UX design overall. The task switcher could quick easily become a hold and drag gesture from the home button or status bar with adding any additional steps to get to it.
Thinking something crazy like the tablet interface where the status bar moves to the bottom, gets a little wider, and houses the home button would be a good solution.
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Yes, I was thinking that the merged tablet interface would be a cool idea for the "Nexus 4". With CM10/SGT7 on the KF you also get a nicer notification panel, which might be reasonable for a device of this size.
MonsieurJohnny said:
The sim eject tool, aka paper clip.
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Doesn't work. Paperclip is too big for that one (at least the 3 different ones I tried).
woody296 said:
I totally agree with all your points, it's definitely a turd. Wanna sell it?
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Actually I might do (or simply return it), but for different reasons than just the SW I was ranting about (and being disappointed for now). Of course many issues I cited will be fixed with a CM10.1 custom ROM in about 3 months ...
I disagree with the on screen buttons. I had the gs3 and it was terrible for accidentally catching the buttons. The bezel is there for a reason, Samsung put real buttons on the bezel and it's terrible. This is best of both worlds, if an watching a video I get the full screen as the buttons disappear, yet for everything else the screen is a great size.
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I feel sorry for everyone and everything in your life.
I disagree. 4.2 is a major improvement, much faster and smoother. All these new things will be improved upon in future updates.
It sounds to me like some people would never be happy no matter what they do.
As for the on screen buttons, i love them after coming from a device that had a push button for home. It would be great though to make them autohide as they do for video.
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Lol I love that all you fan boys bash the Op and make fun of him, but I hate to break it to you, everything in his post is true. The proper response is: "yes Google screwed some things up pretty badly here, but overall the good outweighs the bad."
Some of you people are worse than iSheep. No need to defend everything a company does. If you don't acknowledge the bad you basically give Google a license to never fix the problem it created because Google thinks you like those problems!
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I've been using it for a few days and I love the device . smoother than m gs3
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This guy doesn't own one, he's just seen videos, it is pretty obvious.
People just love complaining, I think this is he's first android phone, probably bought it because it was so cheap, try to buy an iPhone for that price you'll probably just about pick up a second hand 4s, I've never seen a phone so cheap with so many features, first phone with 2gb ram, even the iPhone 5 has only 1gb ram.
send your phone back and go and buy an iPhone 4s from ebay!!!
The purpose of this thread is simple...
To discuss anything that will truly add features to our phone... As we know this is a light skinned version of stock Android
And here I will be presenting links to apps and threads and everyone can contribute... Which add features to Op5...
Not just ui customizations..... Features...
Definition of a feature...
Something which your phone does which it couldn't do before that app..
So come on guys.. Lets start...
Though I did hate the laggy TouchWiz. I did live the s pen and S note...
And honestly speaking you wll too...
Let's try and customize our Op5.. To the extent that we want to...
This thread will present a series of apps and threads links etc..
Which will help the user to truly add whatever features they want from whatever skin htc sense Samsung TouchWiz to their op5
And I am no developer so please help me out here...
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1.fooview
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fooview.android.fooview
Thai all add the air command and scrapboom like features to the phone ..
What it does....
Allows you to take custom screen shots and save content like scrapbook for later use...
It is also a over screen float like air view...
It kinda blows samsung air view out of the box... But ya note devices do have bigger screens...
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2.featured I am looking for
An action memo like on screen memo taking app..
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MacroDroid - Device Automation
MacroDroid is a powerful task automation and configuration app that focuses heavily on usability with a simple UI and logical step by step process.
Amazing UI. In my experience better than Tasker.
How about Always On AMOLED - BETA?
It's a simple app which keeps your screen on always (like MOTO devices). Nice and cool. If you pay a small amount you get an unlocked version with customization...
Loved the suggestions guys... Specially the always on amoled
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I have two minor additions I'd want added:
1. More customizable theme colors (or honestly I just want red back!)
2. Invertable color option for the system tray
TL;DR add automatic rules
I had a note 5 I loved it, unfortunately it didn't like the hot tub.. TBH I never used the pen much, but when I did it was handy, perfect for field work; snap a pic, doodle on it, send it off. Awesome! I was torn between buying a note FE or the OP5, I'm glad I stuck with OP from a 2 to a 3 to a 5. I've become a flash-a-holic.
The feature I'd love to see is "automatic rules" you can actually get access to the setting on OOS if you have nova launcher, but it just doesn't work. I'm using "#1 profile" to automatically set the phone to priority only at bed time, this shouldn't be a difficult thing for OP to add/activate to OOS.
I'd also like the old dialer, or for that matter any other dialer, swipe down to answer for me is counter intuitive. Like thumbs up thumbs down, swipe up to answer, or swipe down to reject a call.
I wish you could choose the text bubble colour in the default sms app. Like textra or Google messages (too bad they don't have a dark theme for Google messages).
A setting to switch the wireless data indicator from 4g to LTE, I'm not sure why this bugs me, but it does.
How about Tiles? Also, Virtual Hosts is excellent for setting up a root free ad block. Just download one of Steven Black's host files from GitHub and point the app to it.
Would love for buttons and gestures (especially screen off) to be able to invoke app shortcuts. Just imagine the possibilities for Tasker.
Always on display.
Notification badges on the stock launcher so I can enjoy the shelf.
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How about Always On AMOLED - BETA?
It's a simple app which keeps your screen on always (like MOTO devices). Nice and cool. If you pay a small amount you get an unlocked version with customization...
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This is a nice app and I have paid to support but the battery hit is just too much right now compared to what you get using LG or Samsung's version
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I don't understand why not a single stock ROM has long-press volume to skip track. Its such a simple feature. Its baked into every single custom ROM out there. It was there on Sony Ericsson phones (Walkman and K series). I need to get the damn phone out of the pocket, turn the screen on, unlock, open notifications shade, and press to skip a god damn song. (Not all headphones come with buttons, and not all headphones support skipping songs by multi-pressing the buttons.)
2 features I'd love added:
1. Long press back to kill app
2. Brightness slider in notification drop down. I know there is one, but you have to fully extend it to change it. My S7 had the option to place it in the first drop down.
Yeah I agree with most of you, some useful additions:
1. Badges on the Stock OP Launcher! I love it from my iPhone and sometimes forget to answer because I swyped the notification away and no badges to know there are still unread messages
2. Always On or something similar, but only if it doesn't use too much battery and no burn-in
3. Kill all apps in background with one button gesture
I'd love to see OMS commits get to OOS and probably experiment with the Kernel a bit (I know you can flash a custom, but if you'd like to stay complete stock, without unlocking). Maybe improve audio libs similar to ARISE....
How about a one-handed mode feature? That would be pretty helpful.
- Options to block QS & Power menu on secured lockscreen. (Smart Lockscreen protector app does the job, but it's service doesn't start at boot until the first unlock...)
- Skip music tracks using volume keys
- Built in Caffeine tile (the one from play store works well, but doesn't reset when turning screen off).
- Launch torch using power button long press when screen is off
- One-handed mode
- Center status bar clock
Hi guys,
1- badges for notifications. All my previous phones had this function.
2- more functions in auto mode for camera app, it's too basic for me. And in pro mode, I cannot set up the luminosity if the speed is in manual.
3- ultra power saving mode, like Samsung does, very useful when no more battery and we know no access to electricity for several hours.
4- Resize several pictures at the same time. Sometimes I need to send some pictures but the weight is too big.
1. Badges for unread msg or any notification
2. Always on
3. Camera should have more modes
4. Blurred wallpaper on lock screen
Always on clock
Ability to have status bar icons anywhere ie: signal on left
Ability to use dual cameras for wide angle
Ability to use normal USB-C to HDMI cables (not displaylink, Chromecast and wireless solutions are not fit for gaming, one of the 1+5s strongest points)
Screen off/on animation
List view animations
Full halo support
I'll think of more but that's my list of wants
1. The volume button and power button are too close together. The amount of times I went to reach the power button to turn off the display and accidentally took a screenshot by pressing power and volume down together.
2. The back is way too slippery. If the phone is on my bed and and leaning on the mattress slightly, the phone moves. Even just tapping the screen to navigate makes the phone slowly move away. Have to keep putting the case back on.
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out.
4. Battery is good but not what I was expecting. Same as my Mate 9 battery life and yet I thought the Kirin 970 was 50% more efficient than the 960.
5. Wish camera had more slow motion speeds.
6. Persistent Android System notification but that's an Oreo thing and not a Huawei thing.
Having said all that I love this phone and it's the best phone I ever had.
Only had mine two days so more annoyances will probably come to light.
Agree about the power/volume button positioning.
Also since I've got a glass screen protector on it, it's a bit harder to access the sensor (have to press down into it) which is a bit annoying since it's my main means of navigating back and home as well as unlocking.
Infact the same sensor/button being used for both back (short press) and home (long press) is also awkward as I frequently do one when I mean to do the other.
Finally, it seems a bit complicated seemingly with multiple apps and settings for the same thing (though I am coming from Windows Mobile which might seem simpler as it didn't have many apps)
Agree great phone though (probably my best ever also)
I just got my mate 10 (alp-l29,black,4gb) from UAE.
1. Inability to theme notification/quick toggle area - stays black no matter what theme you apply. Looks out of place considering all notifications except spotify are light/white themed.
2.home button with 3 functions is not as easy to manage as I thought, but I will have to get used to it, since i aint giving away screen real estate and use on screen buttons on this monster.
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
Otherwise I love this phone. Its fast, lag free. Kinda fat, but in combo with the weight, I like how it sits in my hand.
For the first time I quible only about thickness. Anything over 8mm feels a little thick...
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3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out..
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Well to update my post, I just tried with a very thin pair of unlined black leather gloves I own and in fact the sensor button DOES work while gloved. So I can press it to go back and forth and navigate as usual. It does not work with fingerprint recognition apps/phone unlocking of course, but once you are in, they do work.
FYI they are a UK brand: Dents Extra Soft 3000 silk lined gloves but I ripped out the silk lining to make them unlined and for more flexibility and thinness and to work with the sensor. ?
jemeljsh said:
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
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UPDATE.
I found a solution to this issue where none of the combinations of View Mode and Text Size settings give you ideally looking system, meaning not too large or not too tiny. At default everything looks to large IMO and they should done better on qhd 6.0” screen. If not by default, view mode needs 5 not 3 steps.
So far the best I got is with this combo of settings:
1. View Mode and Text Size at Small;
2. Dpi @392 (under Developer Settings).
With this settings I believe the text size and viewing area is appropriate for qhd 6” screen.
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action, sometimes it ends up detecting my swipe as a tap, and going back accidentally
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
otonieru said:
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action,
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
snachez said:
I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
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Well that might be true if we are on home page,
But if we are still using an app, swiping up will only do scrolling :silly: , and the point of getting into recent screen is of course, for switching between app
Also,
I kinda expect by this time, huawei would already implement off screen gesture. At least for skipping song,
I mount my phone on my car center dash often, using maps and streaming spotify,
Without off screen gesture, its too troublesome, since i need to reach the phone while driving (not to mention its dangerous)
Because of this, now most of that job done by my Meizu Pro 7
They already implement "Knock & Draw" feature to launch app, so i dont see why they still cant get offscreen gesture
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Don't need that for Mate 10. Its one tap on fp to wake.
Hi. I don'l line che "twin app" that is no wotking with other launchers and there isn't a toggle to manage the duble sim (favorite ecc..)
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
windozeanti said:
Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
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I thought data limit is still there? In mobile data setting.
Or are we talking about different thing ?
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
Shady282 said:
- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
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The camera definitely isn't bad. But hasn't given me that wow factor. Especially in low light. Like I said I think after a couple software updates things will improve slot. No doubt the battery is good but could be better considering the Battery size
I've switched from One Plus 2 to Mate 10 and I think the Mate 10 could use some gestures,like hold home button to lock the phone etc. Right now, it's just pressing the power button to lock the phone. Bugs me.
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro. Besides, another thing that irks me is the fact that we can't mute the shutter sound in 3rd party apps even when you're in silent mode. Like if my phone is in silent mode and I want to send a pic using the whatsapp camera, i can't disable the sound.
focacciabread said:
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro.
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That's because the Mate 10 Pro has an OLED screen and white backgrounds consume more power, so they give you the option to use black backgrounds to save power. The standard Mate 10 has an LCD screen and white backgrounds be are not an issue.
The always on display which doesn't display any useful notifications is quite annoying.
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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It is hard to believe that miui is having these many issues/bugs...only custom ROMs can save.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
crazyguyrohan said:
I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
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I'm on sweetinpro 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0 on Stock with locked Bootloader. It's so frustrating that they haven't fixed trivial issues in the ROM and removed fundamental features.
I'm not having any of the mentioned issues here on my redmi note 10 pro 6/128GB sweetpro, bootloader locked. I disabled MIUI optimization right of the bat, and debloated all the xiaomi crap with this tool . I was running the latest MIUI global 12.0.10 and just updated today to MIUI 12.0.13 RKFEUXM. Still no issues. Also my battery is pretty fine, more than a day and I am heavy user (and gamer)
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
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Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
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This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
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Mine works fine.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
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After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
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Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
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Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
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You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
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Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
TotallyNotAPigeon said:
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
Mine works fine.
After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
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Turns out, all the problems I've mentioned are specifically with the Indian version of the Global ROM. We're at 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0, and they've also removed the option to "disable MIUI Optimazations" from the developer menu. It now requires specifically resetting developer options.
You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
ushgaga said:
You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
Almost all the issues that OP stated in his post are true, it also happens to my unit which is the Indonesian unit with MIUI 12.0.4.0.
The most annoying one is the WA & Telegram notification issue, not only they messed up in order but the Action button is also misaligned. Seems like Xiaomi's dev team is not aware of this issue at all. Pretty unprofessional, however, this is what we deserved by buying a Xiaomi phone.
Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
ushgaga said:
Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
Ratti1999 said:
You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
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Yepp, I installed Vanced and enabled MIUI optimization ( I needed of for files uploading). Vanced is working great. I am using navigation buttons as I am not huge fan of gestures.
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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ushgaga said:
Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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For YTVanced, just go to the old versions page in the download site of vancedapp.com.
Then manually download the microg for "14.21.54 and above" and install it. MIUI will allow this version to be installed. Then I downloaded YTVanced 14.21.54 and installed and using it.
The only reason I wanted to turn off MIUI optimizations is to install YTVanced, but since this method works, I don't mind anymore.
I know MIUI "optimizations" is a real PITA, but so far there seems to be workarounds for some of the shortcomings.
Once official stable custom roms are available, I'll flash to these. Right now there are 3 custom roms available, but these are newly released. Need to wait and see if others have problems or not. Once the roms are matured enough, then will be worth to migrate.
P.S. - Using Sweet Global 8/128.
motherninja said:
Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
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No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
amgreenhawk said:
No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
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By the time I make that post a few weeks ago, my Sweet has been sold in only 1 hour since the ad went online. Currently, I'm back with the Samsung bandwagon (I bought the brand new A52 LTE) and really really happy with it With this great midrange, I did not miss anything from my previous Samsung phone, the S10.
I agree with you, Xiaomi makes good phones with unbeatable hardware specs to performance ratio, but this is the software that we will interact every day with, not the underlying hardware.
Gone are the days I spent countless hours trying every custom ROM available in our beloved XDA forums, now I just want the phone that just works without any major or annoying issue.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I wanna install third party apk it's safe from disable miui optimization and re enable it (just disable for install the apk)
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Please how can I disable MIUI optimization? I'm using Redmi note 10 pro 128/8
YTVanced is working with activated optimization on my Redmi Note 10pro SKFEUXM13.0.15.0
Bootloader locked, not rooted.