Hi. Is system less root better than regular root? im asking this because im still on the cog2 bootloader and was wondering if i should just update it to dok2 bootloader. Is there still issues with systemless root? The only appeal the systemless root has for me is the work around for android pay.
ayeitschris said:
Hi. Is system less root better than regular root? im asking this because im still on the cog2 bootloader and was wondering if i should just update it to dok2 bootloader. Is there still issues with systemless root? The only appeal the systemless root has for me is the work around for android pay.
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Android pay doesn't work with system less root now. I saw an article on android police not too long ago that says it's not working anymore. I'll link the article in a bit, I need to look for it
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...emless-root-android-pay-no-longer-compatible/
I don't have my phone rooted so I'm not sure if there's a way around it
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I'm looking to probably upgrade from my GS3 to the GS5. I've read some of the posts on here about rooting, but I'm still a bit confused. It seems that root is only available for 4.4.2, but then you can't keep root and upgrade to 5.0.1. Is that correct?
Also, could anyone point me to a thread that lays out the root method for the phone? I see a lot of people talking ABOUT the thread existing, but no actual links to the thread.
Thanks in advance!
slicetwo said:
I'm looking to probably upgrade from my GS3 to the GS5. I've read some of the posts on here about rooting, but I'm still a bit confused. It seems that root is only available for 4.4.2, but then you can't keep root and upgrade to 5.0.1. Is that correct?
Also, could anyone point me to a thread that lays out the root method for the phone? I see a lot of people talking ABOUT the thread existing, but no actual links to the thread.
Thanks in advance!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803. This is to get root from 4.4.4.
Theres another method to root 4.4.2 u gotta downgrade to a different kernel then use towelroot and then flas the upgraded kernel. Theres a method on here by the same guy that did 5.0 one , just search his name you can find it
Joehen873 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803. This is to get root from 4.4.4.
Theres another method to root 4.4.2 u gotta downgrade to a different kernel then use towelroot and then flas the upgraded kernel. Theres a method on here by the same guy that did 5.0 one , just search his name you can find it
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Note that OTA 5.0 just got pushed by AT&T and if you take it, there is currently no way to root or downgrade to 4.4.2 to use towelroot. In fact if you try to downgrade after the 5.0 OTA, you will end up bricking the phone. I'm sure devs around are working on finding a way to root the OTA, but as of today there isn't a way. There is an alternate method using FireFlash which is in beta to install 5.0 on a rooted 4.4.4. Note that if you are just about to buy a S5, it might be preloaded with 5.0 which until probably some time in the future is not rootable.
I would suggest delaying your upgrade from S3 to S5 until someone figures out how to root 5.0 OTA.
YasharF said:
Note that OTA 5.0 just got pushed by AT&T and if you take it, there is currently no way to root or downgrade to 4.4.2 to use towelroot. In fact if you try to downgrade after the 5.0 OTA, you will end up bricking the phone. I'm sure devs around are working on finding a way to root the OTA, but as of today there isn't a way. There is an alternate method using FireFlash which is in beta to install 5.0 on a rooted 4.4.4. Note that if you are just about to buy a S5, it might be preloaded with 5.0 which until probably some time in the future is not rootable.
I would suggest delaying your upgrade from S3 to S5 until someone figures out how to root 5.0 OTA.
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Gotcha. I'm not gonna not upgrade simply because root may not be possible yet if it's already 5.0, but that's good to know. Thanks.
AT&T pushed OF3 to my phone without my consent. I hadn't rooted it yet. Is there any way to root the device or should I put it up on eBay?
Nothing yet I'm afraid. And as far as I know, it's not possible to ODIN back to the previous version once on OF3
Yeah I can confirm downgrade is not possible. Although I think downgrading Kernels and then using Pingpong will gain root. Not 100% sure
this happened to me too
2kris3 said:
Yeah I can confirm downgrade is not possible. Although I think downgrading Kernels and then using Pingpong will gain root. Not 100% sure
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I NEED THAT! I cant find flashhable kernels anywhere for of3 or ng2. I got a phone on OF3 n cant do anything.
Hi Experts,
I am plannign on rooting my SM-G925T butu I have a couple of questions before I continue, I have an out of the box version and not updated yet as far as I know, it is currently on 5.0.2. I see a guide to Root but it is for 5.11.
- Is it better to update my phone first before rooting as the guide I saw for rooting without tripping knox is for 5.11.
Thats all my question for today, I may think of something else later though.
Thanks
You can root 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, but that means your fingerprint scanner will be rendered useless.
Personally, I stayed on 5.0.2, rooted with PingPongRoot and flashed a debloated ROM using FlashFire — all with Knox still intact.
If you want to root without tripping knox and have functioning fingerprint reader, stay on 5.0.2 and root using ping pong as stated by above poster
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Thank you both for your response, I would stay with 5.0.2 then.
OK guys I have a question that I am not sure is the right thread but I need to SIM unlock my phone. The only ways currently out needs the phone to be rooted. I have a question of a plan I have and wondering if you guys would know if it works?
I plan to do what you said above and root 5.0.2
Get the phone unlocked.
Then flash the stock rom and get rid of root.
And then upgrade to 5.1.1.
Do you guys happen to know if this will work without messing with my fingerprint reader? Thanks!
SupacatSF said:
OK guys I have a question that I am not sure is the right thread but I need to SIM unlock my phone. The only ways currently out needs the phone to be rooted. I have a question of a plan I have and wondering if you guys would know if it works?
I plan to do what you said above and root 5.0.2
Get the phone unlocked.
Then flash the stock rom and get rid of root.
And then upgrade to 5.1.1.
Do you guys happen to know if this will work without messing with my fingerprint reader? Thanks!
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It won't, but you may lose the unlock depending what method you use
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FYI, this worked completely perfect. Used Ping Pong to root, unlocked and then flashed stock 5.1 and still unlocked
How do I root 5.1.1 DOI1 without tripping knox? I'm aware Samsung pay and fprint scanner are gone but I have a question.....If I decide to unroot and flash back to stock (with knocks untripped, hopefully) is it possible that Samsung pay and fprint scanner should work as a result?
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How do I root 5.1.1 DOI1 without tripping knox? I'm aware Samsung pay and fprint scanner are gone but I have a question.....If I decide to unroot and flash back to stock (with knocks untripped, hopefully) is it possible that Samsung pay and fprint scanner should work as a result?
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You cannot root 5.1.1 DOI1 without tripping Knox since Samsung updated the bootloader and we don't have an engineering bootloader for it. If you were on 5.1.1 COF6/8, you could still use the engineering bootloader while sacrificing the fingerprint scanner and Samsung Pay. As long as you don't trip Knox or use a custom recovery, you can still use Samsung Pay after flashing back to stock.
So who ever is on 5.1.1 DOI1 non rooted stock(brand new phone) and attempt to flash custom rom ,root phone etc will not be able to revert to stock (like from the box) and will lose SamPay and Fingerprint scanner?
In case we root, we will Tripp Knox and disable Fingerprint scanner?
roundel77 said:
So who ever is on 5.1.1 DOI1 non rooted stock(brand new phone) and attempt to flash custom rom ,root phone etc will not be able to revert to stock (like from the box) and will lose SamPay and Fingerprint scanner?
In case we root, we will Tripp Knox and disable Fingerprint scanner?
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Only trip knox, which yes it will make samsung pay useless, and you cannot reset knox
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serio22 said:
Only trip knox, which yes it will make samsung pay useless, and you cannot reset knox
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How about Chainfire root without modifying system? Did anyone tried this?Maybe there is still hope for us?
EncryptedCurse said:
You can root 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, but that means your fingerprint scanner will be rendered useless.
Personally, I stayed on 5.0.2, rooted with PingPongRoot and flashed a debloated ROM using FlashFire — all with Knox still intact.
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Can you share what debloated ROM you used? I can't tell how to know if a rom works with FlashFire. I am still on 5.0.2, rooted, but still stock. I would like to try some more roms.
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Can you share what debloated ROM you used? I can't tell how to know if a rom works with FlashFire. I am still on 5.0.2, rooted, but still stock. I would like to try some more roms.
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I'm using Looper 2.0. There really aren't that many options for those still on 5.0.2; it seems like the only other one is XtreStoLite. You may have more luck in the Unified Development forums, though I'm not sure if you'll be able to take advantage of T-Mobile specific features (like WiFi calling) on 'universal' ROMs.
I almost forgot to add: it's absolutely essential that you remove the boot.img from any ZIP before flashing or else you'll end up tripping Knox.
I was already looking at XtreStoLite. Do you know if its Aroma installer options work with FlashFire?
Im on this version of 5.1.1. and looking to root. I don't care about knox. I only care about the fingerprint scanner which I am under the impression only gets disabled with that developer bootloader used for not tripping knox. Anyways I flashed a version of TWRP which worked but wouldn't let my phone boot. Itd get stuck on the Samsung screen (not bootloop). I got the recovery is not seandroid enforcing message. I managed to get back to stock after that but Can someone point me into the right direction for which TWRP or CWM I should flash and or kernel after that. I just want to get a rom on this thing. Might as well since ive already tripped Knox.
is there any root? If so, can you do it wirelessly?
Currently there is no root for anything above OE2, sorry.
Development for this device has pretty much halted as far as I can tell.
Hey guys,
I have to root a G890A for a friend to remove all the at&t crap and samsung/google bloatware but Im not sure whether or not I should upgrade to 5.1.1 first or not?
Which Version does run better overall?
The phone is sim-unlocked as far as I can tell, would rooting and/or flashing 5.1.1 affect that unlock?
zroice said:
Hey guys,
I have to root a G890A for a friend to remove all the at&t crap and samsung/google bloatware but Im not sure whether or not I should upgrade to 5.1.1 first or not?
Which Version does run better overall?
The phone is sim-unlocked as far as I can tell, would rooting and/or flashing 5.1.1 affect that unlock?
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Best version for me is is 6.0.1 because of the great battery life and the Marshmallow Android. However 5.0.2 had the same battery life unlike 5.1.1 where it was terrible.
The rooting/flashing will affect the unlock. As to the root for 5.0.2 - you can read how to do it here (the second page has the downloadable files):
LINK
lirex said:
Best version for me is is 6.0.1 because of the great battery life and the Marshmallow Android. However 5.0.2 had the same battery life unlike 5.1.1 where it was terrible.
The rooting/flashing will affect the unlock. As to the root for 5.0.2 - you can read how to do it here (the second page has the downloadable files):
LINK
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but 6.0.1 is not rootable because of the locked bootloader, correct?
zroice said:
but 6.0.1 is not rootable because of the locked bootloader, correct?
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Yes, 5.1.1. and 6.0.1 are not rootable at the moment. Only 5.0.2. The link I gave you states that 5.1.1 can be rooted too but it's actually some kind of service mode which is no good and as soon as you flash back the stock 5.1.1 there's no more root.
lirex said:
Yes, 5.1.1. and 6.0.1 are not rootable at the moment. Only 5.0.2. The link I gave you states that 5.1.1 can be rooted too but it's actually some kind of service mode which is no good and as soon as you flash back the stock 5.1.1 there's no more root.
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So I rooted that thing now... throught that the recovery was actually a custom recovery but it just seems to be stock recovery with root permission.
Is there TWRP or CWM recovery out for the G890A somewhere? Would love to take a backup before I start the debloating.
zroice said:
So I rooted that thing now... throught that the recovery was actually a custom recovery but it just seems to be stock recovery with root permission.
Is there TWRP or CWM recovery out for the G890A somewhere? Would love to take a backup before I start the debloating.
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No, there isn't one at the moment, sorry.
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No, there isn't one at the moment, sorry.
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ok, i see. thanks for your help!
So....did you root it?
Did it work?