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[SOLVED] Reading for hours, can't find solution - can't install HardSPL

I'm trying to root my G1, and despite the fact that every guide in existence gives different steps, I've managed to confirm I HAVE root now but I need to load the HardSPL so I can load roms to the phone... right.
Except when I do HOME+POWER I get the red/green/blue/white boot loader screen and it says Serial0. I don't get the recovery image. Camera button is not stuck, it works fine.
Anybody know why it won't let me to the recovery screen?
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Solution: Turns out recovery image itself was corrupt. Downloaded cyanogen's recovery 1.4 and all was well again.

I'm surprised that after reading for hours you didn't post this in Q&A...
Plug in phone.
Do the power home thing.
Press the back key.
Smack forehead with phone repeatedly.

TheDudeOfLife said:
I'm surprised that after reading for hours you didn't post this in Q&A...
Plug in phone.
Do the power home thing.
Press the back key.
Smack forehead with phone repeatedly.
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Lol after reading this I couldn't stop laughing

Oh COME ON!!!
Talk about rude - you take the time to reply but you don't contribute... wtf.
I have been at this for FOUR HOURS!!!!!!!!!! I have searched every thread I can find for a solution, I haven't been spending hours looking at exactly how I should avoid offending someone! I gotta say, I never got this kind of rudeness in the Vogue forum, maybe switching to an android device has put me in with a new 'class' of users?
Now as far as the problem - the problem is that HOME+POWER does NOT bring up the recovery screen - THAT is the problem! It brings up the boot loader screen instead.

what step r u on ur using this right http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480

Sounds to me like the recovery image was not installed in telnet, without it you would not be able to get into recovery cause there is not one to get into, read your steps on rooting and if if you have to redownload a recovery image, that is what happened to me on my second phone that I rooted

gridlock32404 said:
Sounds to me like the recovery image was not installed in telnet, without it you would not be able to get into recovery cause there is not one to get into, read your steps on rooting and if if you have to redownload a recovery image, that is what happened to me on my second phone that I rooted
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This is what I'm beginng to think, that the downloaded recovery image has errors or something. I think I'll try redownloading it.

Most likely is, it happens every once in awhile and yes you will get some people on this forum that are quite rude and make fun of you without helping, a lot will also sit there and play mod, but you have to just bare with it. There are a lot of great people that will help you out and all the devs do a really great job so the android platform was a great choice in my opinion

well unfortunately, I downloaded the recovery image again, put the sdcard back in the PC, copied it over again, ran through the root process on the device again.... and still can't get the recovery ROM...
did not expect this much of a problem, I had no issues unlocking my Touch VOGUE (similar process) and I run through going to recovery ROM all day long with people at my job, when all the n00bs forget their gmail passwords.

Solved!
After downloading recovery.img 3 times from the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480, I finally gave up and downloaded cm-recovery-1.4.img instead, renamed it recovery.img, and now I can access the recovery rom.
yay!
kudos to those that helped out! If you ever get me on the line at t-mobile pda tech support just say "xda developers" and I'll make sure to do my best to help out a bud!

That's great to hear buddy, seems like just a bad image, you will really like the g1 a lot now that it is rooted

lotherius said:
Oh COME ON!!!
Talk about rude - you take the time to reply but you don't contribute... wtf.
I have been at this for FOUR HOURS!!!!!!!!!! I have searched every thread I can find for a solution, I haven't been spending hours looking at exactly how I should avoid offending someone! I gotta say, I never got this kind of rudeness in the Vogue forum, maybe switching to an android device has put me in with a new 'class' of users?
Now as far as the problem - the problem is that HOME+POWER does NOT bring up the recovery screen - THAT is the problem! It brings up the boot loader screen instead.
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TheDudeOfLife has contributed more to this forum and to making your device run like it does more than you ever will. He is one of the main developers here and has a large following using his ROM, it would be hard for him to contribute more than he already has.
Also, he did give you advice, he advised you to try hitting the back button to see if it would do anything, and if as suspected that it did help, he was only pointing out how dumb you would feel if that was all it took.
Just saying... anyways, congrats on fixing your phone. Next time post in the correct forum (I think its been moved anyways), and could you add [SOLVED] to the title of your thread so other might find it easier if they have the same problem.

Well it was resolved which is the main thing, was just a bad image before flashing which can happen.
TheDudeOfLife has contributed a fair bit to Android as well which his ROMs and whatnot and pressing Back does enable FASTBOOT at that stage.
No main harm done eh? ^_^ As h.nocturna suggested, if you could add a "[SOLVED]" tag to the thread title that would be great.

And you should feel privilaged that the dude came here and tried to help.

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And you should feel privilaged that the dude came here and tried to help.
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Are you serious? He got mocked by the guy and he should feel privileged because the guy is a ROM developer?!
h.nocturna said:
TheDudeOfLife has contributed more to this forum and to making your device run like it does more than you ever will. He is one of the main developers here and has a large following using his ROM, it would be hard for him to contribute more than he already has.
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Again, the original poster wasn't bashing 'the dude', just stating the obvious fact that mocking people and not contributing makes him look like an ass.
I know this post was very off topic, I was just so shocked that people bow down to ROM developers like they can do no wrong.

AdrianK said:
Are you serious? He got mocked by the guy and he should feel privileged because the guy is a ROM developer?!
Again, the original poster wasn't bashing 'the dude', just stating the obvious fact that mocking people and not contributing makes him look like an ass.
I know this post was very off topic, I was just so shocked that people bow down to ROM developers like they can do no wrong.
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I was pointing out that he said that the Dude didn't contribute when indeed he gave him instructions on how to solve his problem (contribution #1) and he also contributes by developing ROMs that help everyone (contribution #2). So next time, read what I said and why I said it instead of just taking the quote out of context. And I don't think he was mocking, again, read why I don't think he was.

Wow, when did everyone become such sensitive nannies?
To be honest I thought I was answering his question with a joke and the answer. I didn't read (reading is fundemental) it and realize his recovery was bad. Glad you guys were able to work this out.

TheDudeOfLife said:
Wow, when did everyone become such sensitive nannies?
To be honest I thought I was answering his question with a joke and the answer. I didn't read (reading is fundemental) it and realize his recovery was bad. Glad you guys were able to work this out.
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I do appreciate any and all help. I apologize for my own rash reactions. hours of fighting with something that should have been straightforward can do that to you! No idea why the image was bad twice, but once I switched to the other recovery image it was all good. I will add [SOLVED] to the title as suggested.

TheDudeOfLife said:
Wow, when did everyone become such sensitive nannies?
To be honest I thought I was answering his question with a joke and the answer. I didn't read (reading is fundemental) it and realize his recovery was bad. Glad you guys were able to work this out.
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Thank God. I was beginning to think that I misjudged what you wrote and you didn't mean it as a joke. ~sigh~ reading comprehension ftw!

Sorry but I dont know what else to do

If this is a noob question I'm sorry I've been around these parts for a little while and even though i know how to root the G1 im having a hard time un-rooting it.
OK I just recently traded a buddy of mine's white G1 for my Bronze G1. Its a little ruff around the edges and its a little messed up so i was going to do a warranty claim.
I'm having an issue with trying to get the splash image to reset it self better yet I cant get it to work whatsoever. every time i go and do the whole
run
cmd
cd desktop
cd fastboot
then type "fastboot erase splash2"
It hangs there and just says <waiting for device>
I have done this and have changed my splash image on my bronze g1 a million times with no issues but for some odd reason its like it doesn't recognize this damn phone?
while I'm here I've also had issues after flashing the original spl and placing the DREAIMG.nbh file on the root of my sd card going into the bootloader and it not giving me an option to do the update. it just goes from the "rainbow" screen right back to the "rainbow" screen am i doing something wrong?
I would love to resolve this before my replacement comes in the mail just in case T-mobile feels like giving me $hit about the phone being rooted.
Once again I'm sorry if this maybe a misplaced post or if its a noob question but from what I've seen I'm the only person having these issues

Answers for unrooting are all over, a quick search would've yielded plenty of answers. Questions go in the Q&A section, this section is for devs and testers.
1. replace whatever recovery image you're using with the stock recovery image.
2. use the RC29 DREAIMG.nbh to downgrade the phone and "unroot"
3. pack it up and ship it.
This takes less than 5 minutes to do and T-Mobile gives you plenty of time to ship the broken phone, so need to do it before the new phone arrives.
As an aside, I know four people who've shipped rooted phones back to T-Mobile and never heard a peep.
EDIT: if your phone isn't seeing the .nbh file its probably because your SD card is FAT16, it needs to be FAT32.

I guess you must have only read part of what i wrote.
i know what I'm "supposed" to do I'm writing what my phone is doing while in the process. yes i know its only supposed to take 5 minutes and I have googled and have searched. I'm not being lazy if that's what you implying
you find somone or somewhere where someone has had the same issues and i will apologize. re-read my post then answer again thanx
p.s. and yes my sdcard is and has been formatted to Fat32

LatinSilEighty said:
i know what I'm "supposed" to do
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Then why did you post this in the development section?

I wanna be I wanna be a moderator
God forbid I placed this in the wrong section.
I figured, maybe a DEVELOPER might know the answer there for I posted it in the DEVELOPMENT section but forgive me father for I have sinned.
Please move my post so the people that obviously don't know the answer can stop coming in here.

Keep insulting people. That will get someone to help you really fast.

Try reinstalling your fastboot drivers. Its probably not recognizing it as its a different phone and has a different ID or something like that

if your not in here to help then why are you in here? people like you are the reason this forum is slowly going down. I'm just asking for a little help.

jsunkist146 said:
Try reinstalling your fastboot drivers. Its probably not recognizing it as its a different phone and has a different ID or something like that
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thank you very very much i will try that

I wasn't going to help you, but I decided I will since I am not a doosh. I had a very similar problem. I agree that reloading the driver is a good idea. But that wasn't all I had to do. I had to reload the driver with the latest driver from HTC. You can find it here. http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html

Thank you very much i appreciate the help and yes updating the driver worked perfectly thank you.

LatinSilEighty said:
people like you are the reason this forum is slowly going down.
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Pot, meet kettle.

Mods feel free to lock this post I found my answers thanks for those of you that helped

Some people are just incredibly ridicoulsy on this thread (sorry bout the spelling but I am a little drunk) people are getting out of hand, in all the reality the search bar rarely helps, you don't ever find **** that you are looking for, so stop being a ass and help out a fellow modder, you never know who is gonna be the best and greartest modder in a few months and you are turning them off, instead of acting like a ass or mod, why don't people starting answering ?s and helping out the noobs before flaming and being rude, people, android has a linux backbone and the support and help is what makes linux the best and most complete os that is out there, welcome everybody that is new because they need to learn and need the help to grow just like everybody else

gridlock32404 said:
Some people are just incredibly ridicoulsy on this thread (sorry bout the spelling but I am a little drunk) people are getting out of hand, in all the reality the search bar rarely helps, you don't ever find **** that you are looking for, so stop being a ass and help out a fellow modder, you never know who is gonna be the best and greartest modder in a few months and you are turning them off, instead of acting like a ass or mod, why don't people starting answering ?s and helping out the noobs before flaming and being rude, people, android has a linux backbone and the support and help is what makes linux the best and most complete os that is out there, welcome everybody that is new because they need to learn and need the help to grow just like everybody else
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They're not helping because it only encourages others to also post in the development, questions that have nothing to do with developing something. Not because we're assholes. Post in the right section, and people will help.

Solution found to query. Thread closed

lost and xda no help

i just dont get this. i have been a member for 2 months and im just as lost as i was when i started. if i ask 1 of the people who know what to do they say search or gtfo. i search and end up more confused. the threads arent very friendly to a person just starting out like me. all of the language is written for people who already no what their doing. its not dumbed down at all. i think i will just use this site to download roms and themes since thats all i can seem to do

I am not trying to attack you or anything, but what is the purpose of this thread?
There are a lot of helpful people around here, maybe you aren't putting your questions in the Q&A thread? Or they aren't worded properly so people know how to assist you.... IDK.
Seeing as this is the only thread you have ever started here, I can't really say that it looks like you have posted much requesting help. I see one post where you were having problems flashing a new recovery image, but it looks like you probably just entered either the file name or path wrong. Or you didn't save the file in the root of your sdcard.
But, also, seeing as this is the XDA-Developers forum.... a certain level of knowledge seems to be expected by a lot of the members. I really don't see where anyone has told you to search or GTFO, in fact, I didn't really notice any responses to your posts.
If you want people to help you, post in the proper section and form coherent, explanatory questions.

jerzy448 said:
i just dont get this. i have been a member for 2 months and im just as lost as i was when i started. if i ask 1 of the people who know what to do they say search or gtfo. i search and end up more confused. the threads arent very friendly to a person just starting out like me. all of the language is written for people who already no what their doing. its not dumbed down at all. i think i will just use this site to download roms and themes since thats all i can seem to do
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I'm home sick today. What do you need help with. I'll help you out..

bhilgeman said:
I'm home sick today. What do you need help with. I'll help you out..
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See, another helpful person offering assistance..
This place isn't all that bad, now is it?

The issue is this I think...
Generally, you need to know something of what you are doing. The reasons are simple;
1) If things start to go wrong, you need to understand enough about the process to at least be able to follow instructions without them having to be written in a specific button-by-button manner,
2) People who blindly follow instructions are bound to miss a step or screw one up simply because they don't understand the instructions (this goes back to #1).
If you are a regular user of an android device, I suggest sticking with a stock build -- they are meant for people who know nothing about the platform. If you are an advanced user, you should be able to get the "gist" of things and fill in the blanks where necessary.
I'm not telling you to gtfo, what I'm telling you is that you really need to think about YOUR level of understanding of how things happen. If you aren't advanced enough to be able to fill in a few blanks here and there, then you might want to think about what you are doing, which is essentially putting a fairly expensive piece of technology into the hands of people you don't know and have no reason to trust. You also have to realize that the instructions that you get from here don't go through months of QA to verify that they are perfectly correct with no chance of, for example, bricking your phone. It is very possible that you could see a bunch of instructions that tell you what to do, but that the author maybe accidentally forgot to include a critical step, and it is absolutely UP TO YOU to be able to see that there is a missing step.

I concur. I have had numerous people ask me for help rooting their g1's. Some I help because they are computer literate and have hacked or altered software on other platforms and hardware. Those that have asked that still need help when basic things go wrong in a windows platform, I say no and tell them to enjoy their Android phone. If they are willing to dive in and learn, my offer may change down the road

What do you need help with?

Ok, here I go again. Need someone to pimp my Nexus One/Froyo for me..

I got help here to root it so I could get a proggy on there that would allow me to get fonts in larger sizes and yes, I'm very happy. HOWEVER, my HOT SPOT feature is not working and I"m guessing that pimpin' it is what did it and NO, I'm too stupid to fix it and the guy that helped me rooting it had no idea what to do. I'm close to Charlotte, NC and I was wondering if there's anyone around here that could help me? Ie, rooting it AND getting my hot spot stuff to work which is one of the reasons I bought this one and paid a small fortune for it.
Thanks and yes, I would be glad to pay a lil' sumptin' for it, take you out to lunch or help YOU out in any way.
George

you may be a noob, but seriously you didn't really expect anyone to have sympathy did you?, we all started somewhere.. hint: start by reading the stickies

God forbid someone would have sympathy but NO, the crying icon was there to spruce the thread up.
I have gotten great help in forums and I've run into a lot of a$$holes if that answers your question?
As for reading the stickies, I have a reading comprehension problem so that doesn't work for me. Of course, you may want to say that this is bull$hit
and I'm just trying to make it easy on my self and yes, I am but no, the reading thing is not bull and reading instructions are useless.
Last time, I had someone talk me through it in a chat and it worked but took around TWO hours. This would not have happened if it had been
done through here or e mail. You'd be talking days or weeks just getting the thing rooted.
However, I"m not sure how helpful your reply is? Plenty of that around the web. Lots of replies in help forums but LITTLE help. Mostly people that
think their $hit don't stink and that they can say anything just 'cause they're anonymous. Sounds like my neighbor. She used to talk all kinds of
$hit about EVERYONE and tell me how she stood up to someone and told them this or that to their face but she never did. Just told ME how damn
cool she was but I never saw any proof of it.
Yeah, it's easy to have an opinion online and make comments about any damn thing...

guiri_too,
Post in your local listings (Craigslist, for example). I'm sure there's probably someone in your area that can help you out.
An online forum isn't really the best setting for what you need. You need someone that knows what they're doing (no offense) to look at your phone and do what needs to be done. Otherwise... read through the threads, find rooting/modding instructions, get a custom recovery image on, make a backup, and flash a new ROM.
If you didn't know what you were getting yourself into, you shouldn't have done it. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, either.

If I ONLY stuck to buying things I completely understood, I would NOT have a damn thing today and no worries, I wasn't insulted.
As for craigslist, haven't found much there but morons but I can give it a try.
However, I KNOW there's plenty of knowledge here, the trick is to find it. LIke I said, I got great help rooting it but now I see there's some problem which I ASSUME is from the rooting.
Note, NOTHING against the guy that helped me out, he did a great job and was very patient so I have no complaints, it's just that now that I found this out, I'd like to get it fixed.
Georg

well man, what you can do is give us some details too.. are you on a custom rom, or stock w/only root, also do you have stock recovery or kosh(sp) or Amon Ra's
If you know how to check you can simply go to about phone and check in there if you are on custom, usually in kernal it will have the devs name.. to find you bout recovery you get the app quickboot(in app market) and hit recovery if you have list of options and i mean a list then you have a custom recovery, if you only have 3 options then its stock..
If you got custom rom& recovery, then you can flash a different rom, this could have broken wifi or something along the way.. so what you do is find a custom rom you like( i say go with enomther) that one is close to stock as possible but with all perks taht are really needed
im new to the n1 communtiy as i barely got my n1 rooted, but i had my g1 for over a year or so and had bout 3 of those, and not much has change except the way to root it

Okie dokie Spanky, I'll see if I can figure it out and post back. I was hopin' someone local that's got more brains than I could pimp it but that's what I get for livin' in the boonies I guess

all about me....

hey guys, I was a windows phone lover, but as we know, i got forced out... so as I'm nkt a snob, I won't own a iPhone, so im trying my best with Android, but am not happy how intrusive Google is, I don't really care for Google either, and I feel they're watching my every move, and id like to ride dirty if I want to without someone watching me.. if... I felt like it.. sorta creepy if you ask me, plus Google ruined my buddies phone for downloading a video game they say was pireted, so im not ok with that, as the phone was my buddies property.. so.. yeah, that's my feelings on all this, miss windows, don't own a computer, just a boy and his stalker android phone, that always seems to have issues with software, afraid to turn my phone off, because for whatever reason, android phones don't like to turn back on.. for me anyway, hello everyone

Hi, Jeremy619
Welcome to XDA Developer forum.
If you dislike Google, I would recommend installing a custom ROM whiteout Gapps.
I hope you enjoy your stay. If you need any help or guidance in using the site, make sure to send me a DM.
Btw, you may check out the forum rules.
Sincerely,
Jamie

TrulyPain said:
Hi, Jeremy619
Welcome to XDA Developer forum.
If you dislike Google, I would recommend installing a custom ROM whiteout Gapps.
I hope you enjoy your stay. If you need any help or guidance in using the site, make sure to send me a DM.
Btw, you may check out the forum rules.
Sincerely,
Jamie
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thank you, I don't know how to do that sort of thing, and ware I live, we don't have phone lines, so no computer access, so I would need a way to do stuff either buy using phones own storage, or SD card, or to another phone, and a male to male cable linking the two phones together,, but as it seems, I'm guessing my Stylo 5 isn't root friendly, so idk, thanks for any help info you can provide, also, I'm having major problems with senior members, I posted a help question, and no one has responded to it, but if I comment on others posts, asking if they fixed the problem, or what I should try, it gets removed, then I suggested someone with a broken phone, hook a Sim card up to another broken phone, after getting the one networked unlocked, if it still didn't work, and putting in the other phone... and got message not to post illegal stuff on here.. it wasn't illegal, seems everyone wants to keep removing my posts, and talking crap to me, but no one wants to help me with my phone problem, I don't understand, I need help, not policing, thanks, if there's anything you can do to guide me or help me, it'd be appreciated