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Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?

I actually bought the N5 before getting the N4. The fact is, I'm gonna get all of the Nexus devices (all new in box) just because I can. And I plan on using most of them.
But anyway, for those that aren't as Nexus obsessed as me, why did you stay with the N4? I know one answer I'm going to hear: "because it still does what I need". (fair enough)
Just interested in what people think.

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Good response. Thanks for sharing.
Some of us are enthusiasts interested in other people's opinions and experiences.

I stayed with the N4 because I think it's more handy. It's a little smaller than the nexus 5 and since I have smaller hands I prefer the nexus 4. Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)

I stayed because I didnt find mych difference and also Im in a condition that buying a new device will probably waste my time ! And also planing to move to google silver or iphone 6
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japmeet said:
Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.

I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!

my reason :
- I got my N4 cheap (got $100 discount when I bought it).
- screen density is more than enough for my poor eyes. (tell you the truth I really can tell differences between 415ppi vs 318ppi).
- CPU sector, for me myself my nexus 4 is already fast enough. I mean this is a phone not a laptop/pc, I don't need huge clock speed or ram to play games.
only one two cent personal opinion.

japmeet said:
I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.

wolfen69 said:
I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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It is a great phone, no questions there

Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?
I guess because not everyone is as independently wealthy as you. Geez, I just bought the thing only a year and a half ago. Assuming that someone keeps making OS updates for this phone on this forum to keep up with security updates, I will keep it for around the same time-frame as I refresh my main desktop computer, about 5 to 7 years. Heck, my older second desktop computer is 11 years old and runs various versions of Linux as well as XP just fine (Although I disabled XP because it was finally discontinued.) I understand it is the constantly changing hardware that forces Google to very quickly stop supporting OS upgrades on older devices (really just an excuse to sell more devices), but it is really ridiculous that my Nexus 4 will shortly become obsolete by Google's standards, unlike Microsoft who supports their operating systems for a very reasonable amount of time.

I stayed with my Nexus 4 because Nexus 5 didn't offer a significant difference in performance. I was able to compare that side by side, and the performance of my Nexus 4 was just fast as Nexus 5. So i saw no point in change.
As i'm a non gamer guy, i think Nexus 5 will perform better games than Nexus 4, but i really don't play much.
Personally speaking, changing phone every year (some people always want to stay on fashion), seems to me like throwing money away, i think it's better change of 2 in 2 years, then you'll notice more technology improvement.
Another situation, was when i saw the Nexus 5...i was totally disappointed with his design..i mean look at the Nexus 4...it has an amazing design, glass on the back, all seems to be in harmony.
In Nexus 5 it's just a phone...don't know...lack of personality, i guess....lol
Now, i'll be waiting for Nexus 6...let's see if it worth...

Most of the replies posted in the thread apply to me as well. Some additional thoughts that kept me away from the n5:
It feels better in my hands and the size was perfect. The main things I liked were the corners of the nexus 4 were more curved than the 5, and that the tapered edges of the n4 screen felt natural.
I also preferred the n4's "discrete" camera compared to the gigantic wart that's on the back of the n5.
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I stayed because I won't jump to another phone until I see significant improvement in technology as nowadays it's just spec bumps. I think the 4th is more than enough to last for another 2 years. I'll probably change next year with the coming of L and 64bit phones and only if it really matters. Oh, and I'm not rich enough to change phone every year ?
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
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No CandyKat? It is there, right here.
My reason? Saving up my money for my masters degree studies.

I got the N4 on contract which isn't up until March next year.
Being a student I couldn't afford to buy it outright, and obviously couldn't afford to buy the N5 when it came out.
I will, however, be buying the Nexus 6 the moment it's released. I should have my student loan through by then.
Priorities, right?

I think the Nexus 4 is a gorgeous looking phone (I'm a sucker for the glitter back) and I like how the edges curve as well, it is a unique design. It's also one of the most comfortable device to grip. Lastly, the size of the screen and phone are very similar to the Moto X, which is the ideal size for me. I believe LG went with cheaper production cost with the N5. I originally sold my N4, but when Android L preview image was announced, I was dying to try it out, so I bought another N4. I'm not planning to sell it again (I hope), there is a charm about this device that I like.

I to am a nexus lover. I did buy a n5, I do use it as my daily phone for the most part. but I do occasionally use my n4 as my phone as well. actually, I use my n4 and n5 every day. my n4 I use daily as a WiFi device at work. and it is still a great device! but those that say that the n4 is on par with the n5 when it comes to speed, are just kidding themselves. sure, in the ui, its just as fast as my n5. heck, my gnex is as fast in the ui as my n5. but I'm not talking ui, as any phone(even my nexus s) can have a fast ui if you set it up right. I'm talking opening apps/process, and computing. the n5 blows my n4 away when it comes to apps opening, and the speed of actually computing. anyways, that doesn't take away from my n4, as I do love it as part of my family

I stayed because it wasn't that BIG of an upgrade from the N4 to be honest. Definitely getting the N6 whenever its announce/released.

I got the my Nexus 4 when Google put them on sale last year before the 5's release. I'm in the process of convincing the wife that I need (aka want) a Nexus 5.

[Q] Is the nexus 6 amazing/worth it? I'm close to buying one..

Okay well. Right now i have the oneplus one. Its a great phone and i like it and all... But no android l support yet (no cm12s), my touch screen is going bad, support is eh... and im just wanting to buy something that has been improved over many years... And is reliable. opo is kinda new.. with a single device.
So i thought of the nexus 6. It looks and feels amazing (as i have held/saw one) scores really nice on benchmarks despite the quad hd display.
My opo currently has the bamboo back (swap cover) and its in perfect condition, should be worth a good amount, and i get paid soon. So now i am tempted to buy the nexus 6.
Afew questions.
Firstly, I am all about having fast/latest hardware, so here is where my concern comes in. Is this nexus 6 a first of a soon soc snapdragon 805? Because i remember when the nexus 5 was out, half a year later there was a much better soc snapdragon 801. I know the nexus 6 will be fast, but i am just thinking ahead..
Next, is $700+ (as i would get the 64gb one) worth it?.. Its a HUGE jump from the previous $400 32gb nexus 5.. I thought nexus devices were always going to be cheap.. I mean, a bigger screen, a better build quality and snapdragon 805.. that's about all.
Middle, Will it be worth alot by next year when the next nexus arrives? (for resale purposes)
And lastly, should i just go for the nexus 6? And stay in the nexus line.. Or wait for a snapdragon 810 model phone to release.. As 64bit is arriving this year.
PS: Is metro PCS supported?
That's about all i am wondering..
Thanks for anyone that can help me.

Snapdragon 810 is just around the corner, the LG G Flex 2 will be using SD 810. You can have the best hardware possible but if the software is not optimized for it then that hardware is not fully utilized to its fullest potential. In my opinion, get a phone with good development support from the community, not a phone because it has better specifications.
The question of the N6 being "worth it" is subjective and no one can answer that but yourself. You posting a thread in here will attract people say "yeah its worth it, get it ASAP" because you're in Nexus territory but if you're in the OPO territory, they would say no because OPO has a better value. Both phones have its pros and cons, the decision of whether the "N6 is worth it" is not as black and white.
Will it be worth a lot? I don't predict the future, but it most likely will retain a large % of its value. Nexus 5 is still a popular phone and people are still buying them.
Should you go for the N6? I already answered this. I personally was using the OPO and switched to a N6, the OPO community is great but it was no where as good as the Nexus line of devices. Snapdragon 810, don't really care about it unless a Nexus has its name to it.
If development is something you care about when it comes to a phone, a Nexus won't disappoint.
MetroPCS... do the research on your own and compare bands.

zephiK said:
Snapdragon 810 is just around the corner, the LG G Flex 2 will be using SD 810. You can have the best hardware possible but if the software is not optimized for it then that hardware is not fully utilized to its fullest potential. In my opinion, get a phone with good development support from the community, not a phone because it has better specifications.
The question of the N6 being "worth it" is subjective and no one can answer that but yourself. You posting a thread in here will attract people say "yeah its worth it, get it ASAP" because you're in Nexus territory but if you're in the OPO territory, they would say no because OPO has a better value. Both phones have its pros and cons, the decision of whether the "N6 is worth it" is not as black and white.
Will it be worth a lot? I don't predict the future, but it most likely will retain a large % of its value. Nexus 5 is still a popular phone and people are still buying them.
Should you go for the N6? I already answered this. I personally was using the OPO and switched to a N6, the OPO community is great but it was no where as good as the Nexus line of devices. Snapdragon 810, don't really care about it unless a Nexus has its name to it.
If development is something you care about when it comes to a phone, a Nexus won't disappoint.
MetroPCS... do the research on your own and compare bands.
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You sir should write books thanks!

TeChNoC4AzY said:
You sir should write books thanks!
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Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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zephiK said:
Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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Alright! Thanks again

If you can wait for a device that you like (form factor, screen, brand) that has the 810 processor in it, I would wait for that. But if you want a phone this second then the Nexus 6 is a decent choice. With that being said you have a few things to consider.
1)Curved back - For some people this is a deal breaker. Don't ask me why it just is.
2)Large size- At a whopping 5.96" it is large in the average person's hand. I have large hands so this was actually fine for me.
3)Battery life- Because of the screen size the battery life isn't best in class. I will say that it is decent though. You can check threads with users posting their SOT. I on average get about 5.5-6 hours screen on time over the course of a day. (If I ever have time to use it that much.)
But with all those things considered there are a few benefits too, which I'm sure you've heard. When it all comes down to it if you are considering the Nexus 6 the other phone you might want to consider is the Note 4. It is close to the same screen size, same processor, and same battery size. I for one thought the Nexus 6 was the better option because of the Nexus phone support and that it has a bone-stock version of Android. I can't stand Samsung's bloatware.
TL;DR:If you want a phone right now it's a good choice. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months.

melgibson666 said:
If you can wait for a device that you like (form factor, screen, brand) that has the 810 processor in it, I would wait for that. But if you want a phone this second then the Nexus 6 is a decent choice. With that being said you have a few things to consider.
1)Curved back - For some people this is a deal breaker. Don't ask me why it just is.
2)Large size- At a whopping 5.96" it is large in the average person's hand. I have large hands so this was actually fine for me.
3)Battery life- Because of the screen size the battery life isn't best in class. I will say that it is decent though. You can check threads with users posting their SOT. I on average get about 5.5-6 hours screen on time over the course of a day. (If I ever have time to use it that much.)
But with all those things considered there are a few benefits too, which I'm sure you've heard. When it all comes down to it if you are considering the Nexus 6 the other phone you might want to consider is the Note 4. It is close to the same screen size, same processor, and same battery size. I for one thought the Nexus 6 was the better option because of the Nexus phone support and that it has a bone-stock version of Android. I can't stand Samsung's bloatware.
TL;DR:If you want a phone right now it's a good choice. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months.
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There's no point waiting for a few more months, just a couple months later. the Nexus 6 will be even better because the development will be more mature in terms of custom ROMs and kernels.
Going to a phone that is a non-Nexus will have less development and the software will be more bloated with carrier apps and manufacturer skins. Once you go to a Nexus, you stay a Nexus. If a user is wanting something that works outside of the box and doesn't care too much about development then by all means go to a non-Nexus but if you care about custom ROMs and kernels then Nexus devices are the way to go.

I came from a G3 and before that a Note 3
. the Nexus 6 is by far my favorite phone. The development for it is far beyond any other device I have seen, we have kernels, ROMs and everything in between.
The size isn't bad in fact I really like how big it is. It only took a day or two to get used to. Note when I use my wife's Moto X 2014 or S5 its like looking at a iPhone 4. While here may be other devices out there shortly with the SD810 its not going to be as good without devs working on making it better. I had the G3 F460S which had the SD805 and it was much slower than the Nexus with the same processor. LG didn't optimize the chip set well enough to make it worth the upgrade over the regular G3. My antutu score with it was ~46K which is the same as the Moto X that my wife has which is 100% stock. While my G3 was rooted and tweaked with some mods at the time.
The AMOLED display looks great compared to a LCD and its very responsive.
It boils down to preference and I love my Nexus and will buy the next one as well.

zephiK said:
There's no point waiting for a few more months, just a couple months later. the Nexus 6 will be even better because the development will be more mature in terms of custom ROMs and kernels.
Going to a phone that is a non-Nexus will have less development and the software will be more bloated with carrier apps and manufacturer skins. Once you go to a Nexus, you stay a Nexus. If a user is wanting something that works outside of the box and doesn't care too much about development then by all means go to a non-Nexus but if you care about custom ROMs and kernels then Nexus devices are the way to go.
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Nexus phones aren't the end all be all. Usually they have the most developer support but buying something just because it's a Nexus branded phone sounds an awful lot like those "Fruit" buying fanboys that will buy anything their cult favorite company puts out.

zephiK said:
Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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i would also add that battery life is the most subjective issue. it literally depends on how you use the phone. if you're playing games or generally playing around with your phone, your battery life will suck. i use mine as a phone and tool for work and music in the gym and i get 2+ days of use.

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TeChNoC4AzY said:
Okay well. Right now i have the oneplus one. Its a great phone and i like it and all... But no android l support yet (no cm12s), my touch screen is going bad, support is eh... and im just wanting to buy something that has been improved over many years... And is reliable. opo is kinda new.. with a single device.
So i thought of the nexus 6. It looks and feels amazing (as i have held/saw one) scores really nice on benchmarks despite the quad hd display.
My opo currently has the bamboo back (swap cover) and its in perfect condition, should be worth a good amount, and i get paid soon. So now i am tempted to buy the nexus 6.
Afew questions.
Firstly, I am all about having fast/latest hardware, so here is where my concern comes in. Is this nexus 6 a first of a soon soc snapdragon 805? Because i remember when the nexus 5 was out, half a year later there was a much better soc snapdragon 801. I know the nexus 6 will be fast, but i am just thinking ahead..
Next, is $700+ (as i would get the 64gb one) worth it?.. Its a HUGE jump from the previous $400 32gb nexus 5.. I thought nexus devices were always going to be cheap.. I mean, a bigger screen, a better build quality and snapdragon 805.. that's about all.
Middle, Will it be worth alot by next year when the next nexus arrives? (for resale purposes)
And lastly, should i just go for the nexus 6? And stay in the nexus line.. Or wait for a snapdragon 810 model phone to release.. As 64bit is arriving this year.
PS: Is metro PCS supported?
That's about all i am wondering..
Thanks for anyone that can help me.
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If you like to tinker and have the time to spend doing so, the Nexus is the obvious choice. If on the other hand you spend more time doing things, working, recreation, socializing, then another phone will probably suit you better. Unfortunately this was my first Nexus device, and I got it thinking that it would be great to have a phone without all the carrier bloat. After getting it I found that many things I've come to consider standard in a phone, settings, options, etc. are sadly not present and probably will be in time with tinkering and trial and error, but I no longer have the time nor the patience to experiment on a device that I paid a large premium for that just seems to not only be crippled by sloppy software but also with possible hardware inconsistencies. I am lucky that I can jump any time I want and probably will here as soon as more devices come to market. But one thing the Nexus will do for you is help you to appreciate the care that other manufacturers put into their devices to support many features and options that a pure android device does not. So, with that in mind, make your won decision and live with it.

IMO, it's overpriced based on the quality of screen and some parts they used + poor QC.

[Q] Today is Mid-March 2015, is it still worth getting the Nexus 6?

It's after MWC, and the HTC M9 and Samsung Galaxy 6 have debut. I'm not happy with either one. Is it worth getting the Nexus 6 (I'm coming from the Nexus 5)? Or, should I stick it out for 6-7 more months and see about getting the 2015 Christmas season Nexus?

If you want the Nexus 6 and can get it easily just get it. Simple thing with Android phones, if you wait you're just going to keep on waiting. Get the N6 and get the new one once it comes out and sell the 6 and profit.

Antebios said:
It's after MWC, and the HTC M9 and Samsung Galaxy 6 have debut. I'm not happy with either one. Is it worth getting the Nexus 6 (I'm coming from the Nexus 5)? Or, should I stick it out for 6-7 more months and see about getting the 2015 Christmas season Nexus?
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The samsuck is a complete piece of trash. It doesn't even have a qualcomm chip -- its samsuck's own exynos.
The M9 is... kinda nice. The thing about it is that it is a snapdragon 810. I wouldn't call it a "bad" chip, but it is just an ARM reference design with an Adreno stapled onto the side of it. That means more heat and battery consumption than a proper qualcomm-designed core. It is basically a product that was *rushed* to market so that qualcomm could make the statement "we has 64 bitz too..." This was all set off by Apple using the 64 bit dirty trick a few devices ago. 64 bit *sounds* cool, but the reality is that our 32bit snapdragon 805's are much better performing than any of Apple's 64 bit chips, and WAAAAAAAY more power efficient.
The more I think about that chip (the 810), the more I don't want it. The reality is that the snapdragon 805 in the Nexus 6 is a ridiculously fast chip, and incredibly efficient, and very very very polished. 64 bit doesn't even offer much benefit unless you are dealing with crypto or media processing (yes, yes, nexus 6 with factory forced encryption gets a bit of a slowdown due to crypto), but the 805 has dedicated special super high efficiency hardware for dealing with all these tasks. In other words, if you used that 64 bit CPU to do these tasks, you would be at a lower efficiency than continuing to use the dedicated hardware (which yes, the 810 also has and also uses).
Far as crypto goes, source code changes for N6 device tree indicates that google is very close to throwing the switch and enabling the hardware crypto.
The next qualcomm SoC design that I am really interested in is the Snapdragon 820. This is the ACTUAL follow-up to the 805, and returns to a qualcomm-designed core, which is also 64 bit. There has been indication that this new core would be called "Taipan", but more recently, it looks like it could be called "Kryo". An interesting name, since it is phonetically equivalent to "cryo", from the Greek "Cryos" meaning "icy cold". Icy cold implies power and thermal efficiency, which are very highly desirable in a mobile chip, and not present in the 810.

Antebios said:
It's after MWC, and the HTC M9 and Samsung Galaxy 6 have debut. I'm not happy with either one. Is it worth getting the Nexus 6 (I'm coming from the Nexus 5)? Or, should I stick it out for 6-7 more months and see about getting the 2015 Christmas season Nexus?
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I just bought one. I had my heart set on the M9, but I had the M8 and the M9 is very iterative, so I figured now was a good time to try something new. So far, I really like it. It's big, sure, and that takes some getting used to. But the screen is beautiful and it's fast as hell. I was dead set that my next phone would be 64 bit, but I think next years flagships with the 820 will be the 64 bit phones you want. The 810 is nice, and for gaming might make a difference due to the 430 vs 420, but for every day use and processor related tasks I don't think any difference will be noticeable.
If you like the phone, there's no reason not to get it, and being nexus it will get support for a good long while.

Yeah, worth it. The only other phone worth getting would be the Nexus 7?(phone) and that may or may not ever be released and if it does get released it won't be until around November.

Evo_Shift said:
Yeah, worth it. The only other phone worth getting would be the Nexus 7?(phone) and that may or may not ever be released and if it does get released it won't be until around November.
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Unless it's actually a 7 inch phone. Then no thanks. This is as big as it can get.

OK, I'm convinced. Now the next question: Should I get the Nexus 6 from Swappa or Play Store? Midnight Blue or White? 32 GB or 64 GB? The Blue pill or the Red pill?

Antebios said:
OK, I'm convinced. Now the next question: Should I get the Nexus 6 from Swappa or Play Store? Midnight Blue or White? 32 GB or 64 GB? The Blue pill or the Red pill?
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It doesn't really matter where you get it from, Play Store/Motorola/Amazon Prime are all good choices as well as from your carrier. Swappa may not have new devices, but used devices.
32GB/64GB based on your needs. 32GB is enough for me.
Midnight/Cloud White... up to you, depending what color you want you might have to get it from a particular store.

This phone has a few flaws and if you can live with them by all mean get this device. Every phone has it's flaws but for me I can't live with the ones on this device and will be selling mine this Friday . I'll start using my g3 or note 3 again until the note 5 or g4 comes out.

bonebeatz1234 said:
This phone has a few flaws and if you can live with them by all mean get this device. Every phone has it's flaws but for me I can't live with the ones on this device and will be selling mine this Friday . I'll start using my g3 or note 3 again until the note 5 or g4 comes out.
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What are your problems with the Nexus 6 that is forcing you to find greener pastures?

Well, I'm typing this from my very own Nexus 6, White 32 GB!!! I got on Swappa this afternoon and found a mint condition phone and in my city. We met up and it was 100% defect free, and I saved a lot of money. It's still on 5.0.1, but I'm going to manually update it within the hour.
I have joined you, BROTHERS!!!

Coming from the Samsung S 5 to nexus 6 was the best choice I could've made! Freaking love the n6!?

Beyond the Nexus 5

My first Nexus device was the Nexus 4. I loved the quick updates but the battery life was pathetic and it seemed to age quite quickly. I then moved to a Samsung Galaxy S4 but got annoyed over the slow updates around November 2014, I purchased the Nexus 5 and I have been really happy with it. Battery life still isn't that great (although much better than the Nexus 4) but the quick updates are amazing. It's also aged really well and still running reasonably ok. I wasn't keen on the Nexus 6 as this is far too big but I am now starting to think of what phone I should get to replace the Nexus 5.
What phones are you all considering? The obvious choice seems to be to wait for the next Nexus phone but I'm not sure if they'd keep in line with the Nexus 5 or 6 (they might do both). Plus, it'd be quite a few months away so in the meantime I was thinking of the LG G4 as LG seem to be quite good with updates.
Thoughts and suggestions?

N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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DummyPLUG said:
N6 is too large for me, and I won't buy any phone from Chinese company, so I will try my best to keep my N5 working
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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.

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Chinese companies are really stepping up their game recently from what i have been reading.
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Still didn't change their bad behave, you will never believe the cost down of their product. Company like sharp and HTC will tight control everything use in their product down to rev., sometime it may down to specific batch and have a quite large margin for the design. For average user you won't notice anything, but if you take a look at the circuit you may wonder by their miracle.
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I do not agree. It is my opinion that HTC is not the same, and does not have the same quality that they did years ago. It is also my opinion that Samsung devices have seriously gone down in quality.
For power users like us, we desire top of the line devices. We expect them to perform to a standard that the average user does not.
For the average user who just needs to check email and receive MMS picture messages of their grandkids, cheap Chinese phones can't be beat. If you want more, then yeah you have to pay more and buy from a bigger named company.

I´m also happy with my Nexus 5 and this device is still one of the best around, in terms of performance.
If I were you, I would wait a few months for the next Nexus device to be released. Who knows, maybe Google will release a Nexus 5 ( 2015 ) or a slightly smaller Nexus 6 ( 2015 ) ?

Its nice to have a new phone every now and again, but I would wait a while to see what happens with the next Nexus phone; it might just make you fall in love with the Nexus family again.

I think they will make a smaller Nexus phone this year. I'd like a 5.5 or 5.2in device with thin bezels.

I just wish it would be small enough (5") and has a better camera hardware (Nexus 5's is quite a bit lacking).

Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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Save your money for next nexus. If rumors are true we will get 5.2" lg nexus phone. Im hoping for 2k display with quantum technology, type-c usb (because google hinted that in some video), fixed snapdragon 810 or 808 which is in lg g4, 3000mah battery, 13 or 16mp camera with lg's new ois, 3-4gb of ram (more likely it will be 3).
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Ok you convinced me, patience is a virtue after all I'm sure the next Nexus would be awesome, I really don't like the direction they went with the Nexus 6 but rumours say that this was originally part of the Android Silver program (or whatever it was called) and it was only switched back to a Nexus phone last minute. Anyway, fingers crossed that the next Nexus is as awesome (or more so) than the Nexus 5 and equally good value for money.

I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though

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I preordered an LG G4 yesterday, I have just cancelled the order. I love my Nexus 5! I may be tempted to buy a Nexus 5 (2015) if the rumours are true though
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If the next Nexus is released in October then I think we're due for some major rumour/leaks about now. The feature at the top of my wishlist for the phone is a very large battery with some serious battery optimisation. Together creating a phone that exceptional run time far more than anything else on the market.

The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.

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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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This was my thinking with the LG G4 because the line of phones has stood the test of time. The LG G2 was released over a year and a half ago but it's still holding up well and LG are still supporting it with Lollipop (although it takes a while for the update to reach the phone). Something tells me the LG G4 could easily be supported for 2 years if not more. However, although the battery is around 3000mAh, it doesn't have amazing battery life. Much better than the Nexus 5 and would easily take most through the whole day but I'm really thinking that a phone that can easily take most people through 48 hours is a new standard that should be strived by manufacturers.

The s6 is tempting for me. I'd be gutted if nexus realesed a beast though. Can't beat pure android.

I owned a Nexus 6 for a couple months. I never liked the size and couldn't get used to it. I also hated the shape of the phone. It was not stable laying a desk. Surprisingly, I use my phone one handed while it lays on a desk a lot to send texts. That weird curved back wobbles and spins if you try to use it one handed like that. I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
I have switched back to my Nexus 5 and sold the 6 and am so much happier. I know now that I never want a phone larger than the Nexus 5. I am also on Sprint which makes buying a non-carrier phone virtually impossible. Basically I am stuck hoping the Nexus 5 refresh is small or keeping an eye on something like the Galaxy S6/HTC M9 AOSP custom rom scene which I really don't want to mess around with.

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The speculations for each new nexus are always over blown and never live up to the hype. That said I've owned then all. After the nexus 6 (too big), I an looking for alternatives. I am fully planning to get a g4. I'm kind of tired of nexus cameras and battery life. If it wasn't for those 2 things (that and the memory leak that more ram should help) I could probably make it another year with my nexus 5.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
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..I also don't understand why people want such a high resolution phone. It just hurts performance and in a 5 inch package more than 1080p seems pointless.
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We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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Nexus 5 has a really great camera, just compare it to nexus 4 camera. Its still 8mpx and that much better. Now imagine 13mpx with lg's new ois and camera API that allows you to use camera sensor in full glory. I would really like 16mpx camera on a phone like galaxy s6 has, but remember, its a phone, it has a camera to quickly capture moments when your "professional" camera is not near you. But i agree about battery, it should be better on stock factory image then it is, and they always put smaller battery in there. Maybe because it would kill oem's flagship phone that way.
We are not in dinosaur era where big screens were massive battery hoggers. Today you can easily get 2k display which uses the same amount of energy like 1080p screen (not on full brightness ofcourse). Also hardware is so good that it can easily push 2k without any performance drops (qualcomm wouldnt make 2k support in their cpu if it cant keep it up, especially for flagship devices, because if their processor fails to complete oem's tasks, oem will not buy from them anymore). Also, you noticed google is going colors in lollipop, why wouldnt you take advantage of that with a great 2k display and enjoy even more. I rather have better screen than 15min more battery.
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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.

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I generally agree with you, except that I don't have any other cameras. I'm not a professIonal. I'm only going to shoot in auto, but that doesn't mean I don't want them to look as good as possible . I think large percentage of us these days fit into that category.
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I too dont have a camera, but really phones cant substitute real camera. The only devices which are close are lg g4 and galaxy s6, but these devices are flagships, i dont think you will see that kind of camera on nexus phone because.. Well, its a nexus. If they make it a budget phone again, im sure you wont get that great camera. But maybe google surprises us.
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Next phone Opinion, no Hate needed

Hey guys,
I've been an Android guy since the Desire HD days, (2010), but before that I had an iPhone. My switch to Android was mainly for the freedom of thinkering, customizing things to my needs and because by that time, devices where usually cheaper.
I have been seriously considering switching back to iPhone, (6s+) specifically, as I feel that in the last years iOS has advanced, as well as Android, greatly.
I buy Nexus devices for the clean Google Android experience, and fast transparent updates with no carrier OEM interaction.
This whole N update has been a disaster IMO, and I'm reluctant to buy a 6p (I'm always one year behind) thinking the same thing will probably happen to it with the Android 8 update. And I always feel as I have to make compromises with my Nexus devices, like the bad camera (IMO) for the N6, or lag after a few days, or the HORRIBLE touch issues on my 2013 Nexus 7 (which I still love).
Not sure if I could handle the change though, will give my wife's iPhone a spin when it receives iOS 10 today.
Any thoughts?

My thoughts:
N6 and iPhone are very good phones.
Choice is personal.
Disadvantage of the iPhone is the price.

NLBeev said:
My thoughts:
N6 and iPhone are very good phones.
Choice is personal.
Disadvantage of the iPhone is the price.
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Thanks for the reply, though it seems that the price difference gets smaller each time as the Pixel XL is rumored to cost $649, and the 7s Plus 32GB costs $769.
Honestly not a huge difference, more so when you take in to account that iPhones tend to resale for more (at least here in the states)
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This whole N update has been a disaster IMO, and I'm reluctant to buy a 6p (I'm always one year behind) thinking the same thing will probably happen to it with the Android 8 update. And I always feel as I have to make compromises with my Nexus devices, like the bad camera (IMO) for the N6, or lag after a few days, or the HORRIBLE touch issues on my 2013 Nexus 7 (which I still love).
Not sure if I could handle the change though, will give my wife's iPhone a spin when it receives iOS 10 today.
Any thoughts?
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It has been, but this fall is not good for updates, or for judging by updates:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/09/13/ios-10-update-bricked-my-iphone/

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.....difference gets smaller each time as the Pixel XL is rumored to cost $649, and the 7s Plus 32GB costs $769.
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Right but..., we pay to much.
The design of the iPhones is superior.
Imo that's the reason why people are so happy to pay the high price.
When we look further.... We have here publications that Apple is fined to pay 13 billion euro. They pay 0,005% taxes instead of 30%.
Apple-like companies are stealing from the community, they use infrastructure etc for free.

Maybe you need a brief break from Android, as i might it is really a personal decision versus specs.

In my opinion, it isn't such a great time to upgrade yet, I honestly wanted to upgrade to the OnePlus 3 but alas, it's GSM only so its bands don't support Verizon. Then I was looking towards the Galaxy Note 7 and was thinking about upgrading, but then the whole battery explosion fiasco happened. Now the iPhone 7 came out and I wasn't amazed one bit. Keep in mind I used to have iPhones since the 3G lineup, but the customization capabilities were so stale and weak so I switched over to Android on the Galaxy S5, never looked back.
If I am to upgrade anytime this year it's going to have to be a "Pixel" device and they're going to have to wow me, otherwise I think I'll hang onto my N6 for another year, still an amazing device

I wouldn't get the 6p, since it is snapdragon 810. Frankly, the 6's 805 is a better chip.
Not sure the reason for the panic about the update, it has only been a few days. They've been adding one device at a time, presumably to let the dust settle on the latest device before moving on to the next one. 6p was the most recent to get the update, only one remaining now is the 6.
The next ones (named pixel instead of nexus?) will be snapdragon 820 or 821, which is finally a good 64bit chip from QC.

IMO the ZTE Axon 7 is the best bang for the buck right now. Flagship specs and all the latest features for $400. You could sell your Nexus 6 for $150-$200 to help offset the cost.

Thanks for the input everyone.
Gave my wife's 6s+ a spin, and it would be a pretty big change. Going to think about it for a while and see. Depending on the Pixel lineup I will choose.
Thanks again!

The one benefit of Android is we're really starting to get great phones at a bargain price, something that will never happen to iOS. For instance, my wife got the Amazon-version of the Moto G4 for $125 and it's a pretty amazing phone. Not stock android, and who knows about updates, but it's a great phone for the price.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble upgrading to anything that costs over $300. I'm disappointed that the upcoming Pixel phones are going to be in the Samsung/Apple price range, as opposed to ~$300-400.
After my Nexus 6, I'm considering staying a year behind. Upgrade to a 6p or 5x. Stay in the ecosystem, get the Google updates, get a faster phone but not pay leading-edge prices.

I have three things that keep me from going iPhone and one of them is something I can overlook. I need to have access to the file structure and use my phone as a USB drive. I also need to have the ability to send ANY file to another person via email, like zip files or different image formats like .tiff. The iPhone email restrictions are a deal breaker to me. I also hate having every app on the main screen all of the time, but I can live without it. I'm heavily invested in the Google system, but I'd give that up too.
An iPhone for 99% of people is a solid choice, it's just a fact. But guess what? Android is a solid choice as well. But things like OEM induced OS fragmentation and carrier interference make it a bit less desirable, but Nexus is the way a fix for that. I have to say if they get rid of Nexus devices and get rid of the ability to root (I love ad blocking at the system level) I may have to go iPhone as well.

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Right but..., we pay to much.
The design of the iPhones is superior.
Imo that's the reason why people are so happy to pay the high price.
When we look further.... We have here publications that Apple is fined to pay 13 billion euro. They pay 0,005% taxes instead of 30%.
Apple-like companies are stealing from the community, they use infrastructure etc for free.
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol

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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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Apple *invented* exploding batteries.... (yep, they should feel free to actually take credit for this one)
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/more-exploding-iphones/

DogzOfWar said:
The one benefit of Android is we're really starting to get great phones at a bargain price, something that will never happen to iOS. For instance, my wife got the Amazon-version of the Moto G4 for $125 and it's a pretty amazing phone. Not stock android, and who knows about updates, but it's a great phone for the price.
I'm going to have a lot of trouble upgrading to anything that costs over $300. I'm disappointed that the upcoming Pixel phones are going to be in the Samsung/Apple price range, as opposed to ~$300-400.
After my Nexus 6, I'm considering staying a year behind. Upgrade to a 6p or 5x. Stay in the ecosystem, get the Google updates, get a faster phone but not pay leading-edge prices.
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Well I enjoy being on the bleeding edge, that is why I bought Nexus and put up with the shortcomings of Nexus, but the way Google has handled N for the N6 leaves a really bad taste. I know it sounds picky but we buy Nexus for the often mentioned Google updates. Not a fan of the 6p but I'm seriosly considering it, maybe I'll get it during Black Friday.
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I have three things that keep me from going iPhone and one of them is something I can overlook. I need to have access to the file structure and use my phone as a USB drive. I also need to have the ability to send ANY file to another person via email, like zip files or different image formats like .tiff. The iPhone email restrictions are a deal breaker to me. I also hate having every app on the main screen all of the time, but I can live without it. I'm heavily invested in the Google system, but I'd give that up too.
An iPhone for 99% of people is a solid choice, it's just a fact. But guess what? Android is a solid choice as well. But things like OEM induced OS fragmentation and carrier interference make it a bit less desirable, but Nexus is the way a fix for that. I have to say if they get rid of Nexus devices and get rid of the ability to root (I love ad blocking at the system level) I may have to go iPhone as well.
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Well, I've found that I can pretty much replace/cover all my needs with Apple Apps. Also, from using my wife's iPhone, I agree with those who say that the Google experience is actually better in iOS now. They even have features/apps we don't have :silly:
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The design is superior except of the fact the iPhone 6 and above bend super easy. I work for a cell repair shop and about half of them are bent when they come in for a screen replacement or any other service. We also have a lot of bad batteries come in, and they get so bloated that they push up the screen. But I guess it is better to bloat than explode like the note 7 lol
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Lol, A sturdy case fixes the bending and a battery change fixes the bloating. Nothing fixes a burnt phone, you are right.
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Lol

jibust said:
Well I enjoy being on the bleeding edge, that is why I bought Nexus and put up with the shortcomings of Nexus, but the way Google has handled N for the N6 leaves a really bad taste. I know it sounds picky but we buy Nexus for the often mentioned Google updates. Not a fan of the 6p but I'm seriosly considering it, maybe I'll get it during Black Friday.
Well, I've found that I can pretty much replace/cover all my needs with Apple Apps. Also, from using my wife's iPhone, I agree with those who say that the Google experience is actually better in iOS now. They even have features/apps we don't have :silly:
Lol, A sturdy case fixes the bending and a battery change fixes the bloating. Nothing fixes a burnt phone, you are right.
Lol
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Unfortunately most people have cases that look nice, but have very little protection.

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Unfortunately most people have cases that look nice, but have very little protection.
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Well I believe that it depends on the person, I can use a phone without case and it won't have issues, still I use a pretty slim one that provide very little protection.
My wife on the other hand, needs to have her phone encased in an almost military grade cover, my kid the same.
There are just people who take a little bit more care of their phones, or just give it a lot more value, for others it's just another tool so if it falls it falls.

I had the note 7. I tried to like it. I like the camera a lot. But I'm sitting at best buy right now returning the note 7. I knew going into the note 7 that TW was a memory hog but I tried to like it. After using it for a couple of weeks and used my N6 again, I couldn't believe how much quicker everything felt. So here I am, back to the N6, I'll be on the look out for the pixel phones.

Since price and OEM practices of apple arent an issue for you, get an iphone.
iphones are targeted at a specific demographic and it seems you are part of it.

Gonna resurrect this thread since the Pixel phones just came out. I honestly do not find the Pixel (reg and XL) appealing.
I used a co-workers S6 Edge, and I have to admit, it was pretty nice. I would actually go for the Note 7 since I like the bigger screen (yes, explosion, yes fire, just saying).
Any recommendations?