Z3C brittleness and case/protector - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm considering buying Z3C, but see a lot of complaints about Z3C glass shattering out of nowhere.
If I use a case (e.g. Ringke FUSION) and a tempered glass screen protection (Orzly) will it basically remove the risk of phone glass fractures? Or are there many reports that such things happen in cases too? I do not talk about drops from medium heights, but about situations where people just take their phone out of their pockets already fractured.

herbas said:
I'm considering buying Z3C, but see a lot of complaints about Z3C glass shattering out of nowhere.
If I use a case (e.g. Ringke FUSION) and a tempered glass screen protection (Orzly) will it basically remove the risk of phone glass fractures? Or are there many reports that such things happen in cases too? I do not talk about drops from medium heights, but about situations where people just take their phone out of their pockets already fractured.
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actually its depend how we use it...i just put antiglare rear and front for arround 8month, and just found some stretch at rear, which is normally...

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Recommended screen protectors, and also - tempered glass?

Hi everyone,
I'm planning on purchasing the Nexus 5X in a few days, just need to find the right accessories for it (cables, cases, screen protectors).
I was wondering if anyone can recommend a screen protector that has a cutout for the proximity sensor.
Also, I seriously only found out today there is such a thing as tempered glass. After researching a bit, I learned of it's pros (actually protects your screen if the phone falls) and it's cons (can crack easily for no reason ,poses somewhat of a health risk if breaks).
Pros: http://temperedglassscreenprotector.org/
Cons: http://www.clear-coat.com/blog/why-we-dont-sell-tempered-glass-screen-protectors/
Strangely, all the screen protectors I find on Amazon are tempered glass.
So, which one should I buy (tempered or plastic), and can you recommend a specific screen protector?
I wouldn't say they crack easily, but that'll depend on a bunch of variables. All I can say is it looks good and feels much nicer than the PET/non tempered glass screen protectors. Spigen is a good brand to go with.
Read the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3214188
I recommend the skinomi screen protector, it's not glass. It's the kind that feels like rubber and applied via water. I love these.
How you apply it with water? They can get to te mic's, no? You have safe way to do that?
Hi, Im very pleased with Nexus 5X Screen Protector, Spigen® [Crystal] Full HD, I used to have it on my Nexus 5 and I was so satisfied that I bought it again for my N5x. Feels like glass, perfecly cutted you have 3x screen protector included, dust removal and positionning tool to hlelp perfect use. At least two times saved my screen on my old nexus 5. And almost nobody noticed that Im using a screen protector....
I've played around with a few screen protectors over the years, including some tempered glass ones. I can show you some reviews I've written, if you're interested.
Most of the cheap glass options are /not/ multicoated. What that means is, while they might be very difficult to scratch, they will cause some reflections, way more than the bare screen. Also, one of the coatings applied in modern multicoating is an oleophobic coating. That means a layer which helps the glass reject oils, including the skin oils on your fingertips. So applying a glass screen protector usually means you'll have to clean your screen way more often, and also that it will be considerably more difficult to actually clean the screen.
If you're dead-set on a screen protector, I highly recommend you find yourself a multicoated option. These will be no less than $20 even on sale. They can be $30+ normally.
Personally, I trust Corning Gorilla Glass 3 as sufficient in this generation. You might get a scratch or two over a few year span, but, virtually everything your phone will meet won't be hard enough to damage the glass.
Pandages said:
I've played around with a few screen protectors over the years, including some tempered glass ones. I can show you some reviews I've written, if you're interested.
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I would love to.
Pandages said:
Most of the cheap glass options are /not/ multicoated. What that means is, while they might be very difficult to scratch, they will cause some reflections, way more than the bare screen. Also, one of the coatings applied in modern multicoating is an oleophobic coating. That means a layer which helps the glass reject oils, including the skin oils on your fingertips. So applying a glass screen protector usually means you'll have to clean your screen way more often, and also that it will be considerably more difficult to actually clean the screen.
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I don't really understand, you're talking about tempered glass screen protectors?
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If you're dead-set on a screen protector, I highly recommend you find yourself a multicoated option. These will be no less than $20 even on sale. They can be $30+ normally.
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Can you give me some examples? Are the products recommended to me here (like the Spigen) multicoated?
elyashiv1994 said:
How you apply it with water? They can get to te mic's, no? You have safe way to do that?
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You apply a thin layer them squeeze out the excess. It's incredibly easy to retry if you set it wrong the first time. You can push the water away from the mic and speaker and use a cloth to dab up any excess water.
buru898 said:
You apply a thin layer them squeeze out the excess. It's incredibly easy to retry if you set it wrong the first time. You can push the water away from the mic and speaker and use a cloth to dab up any excess water.
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There is something that I can put in the mic to seal it? I don't want to take risk(especially when you have holes in top and bottom)
glass screen protector http://dx-box.com/nillkin-amazing-h-pro-anti-explosion-tempered-glass-screen-protector.html
I've been using glass screen protectors since May 2014. I swear by them. They don't crack easily like Clear Coat claims. I've only had to replace them twice. Once because an edge got pulled up months later so there was a air gap on one side. The second time, it actually did crack but that was after falls with a TPU case on. As many others have stated, with tempered glass screen protectors, that will crack before the actual glass of the screen does. And good ones don't shatter into little pieces like Clear Coat says. On the two replacements, I broke them fully and the pieces stay together. Also I really like the glass feel. Not sure how non-glass screen protectors feel though. Back when invisibleSHIELD was popular, that tacky feel wasn't nice.
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glass screen protector http://dx-box.com/nillkin-amazing-h-pro-anti-explosion-tempered-glass-screen-protector.html
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Thanks. Does it cover the proximity sensor?
Even though the image shows it is, some companies say that despite the image, their product does not cover the sensor.
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They don't crack easily like Clear Coat claims. ... And good ones don't shatter into little pieces like Clear Coat says.
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Yeah it was obvious Clear Coat exaggerated on purpose... Still, I wanted to check with people here what they think.
EeZeEpEe said:
As many others have stated, with tempered glass screen protectors, that will crack before the actual glass of the screen does.
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You mean, they will break before the screen glass when the phone falls?
A question for everyone... Is there a problem, with tempered glass of course, with seeing the screen outdoors when it's sunny, even in full brightness?
TheeWolf said:
Yeah it was obvious Clear Coat exaggerated on purpose... Still, I wanted to check with people here what they think.
You mean, they will break before the screen glass when the phone falls?
A question for everyone... Is there a problem, with tempered glass of course, with seeing the screen outdoors when it's sunny, even in full brightness?
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Exactly. I think of it similar to a crumple zone in a car. It will absorb some of the force before the phone's glass does. Now of course, with a great amount of force like dropping it from 10 feet or throwing it, I'm sure both the screen protector and the phone's glass would break. Regular accidental drops should work out the way I described.
As for outdoor visibility, there's no noticeable decrease in brightness or increase in glare. All of the manufactures usually advertise something like 99.9% transparency.
Here's an interesting tempered glass screen protector review. Cued up exactly on the drop test to rocks and removal:
https://youtu.be/UnvC6EERMyI?t=2m21s
Keep in mind that plastic protects better than glass and plastic does not need to be replaced where as most drops will break a glass protector. It is made from a thin easily breakable material after all.
The reason to pay roughly 10x as much for glass is because it feels much nicer on your finger. Plastic can also cause rainbow like reflections and can be a bit harder to apply than one solid piece.
However glass costs a lot more upfront and in the long run to replace. A plastic protector is about $1 and if applied properly won't ever need to be replaced.
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Keep in mind that plastic protects better than glass and plastic does not need to be replaced where as most drops will break a glass protector. It is made from a thin easily breakable material after all.
The reason to pay roughly 10x as much for glass is because it feels much nicer on your finger. Plastic can also cause rainbow like reflections and can be a bit harder to apply than one solid piece.
However glass costs a lot more upfront and in the long run to replace. A plastic protector is about $1 and if applied properly won't ever need to be replaced.
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Yes plastic ones don't break break or need to be replaced but I don't think they provide the same impact protection in absorbing drops. You'll probably have a screen broken under the intact plastic screen protector.
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Yes plastic ones don't break break or need to be replaced but I don't think they provide the same impact protection in absorbing drops. You'll probably have a screen broken under the intact plastic screen protector.
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I have no background on the subject but just thinking about it logically, I don't think glass can be as protective as plastic.
For instance RhinoShield only offers plastic screen protectors. Their test videos show how easily GG would break from certain impacts and how much plastic protects it. Even the best tempered glass can only hope to be as strong as GG.
My basic understanding of the situation is glass protectors work because it breaks and saves the screen underneath, where as plastic works by actually strengthening the glass itself.
However for each time the glass protector breaks and needs to be replaced, the plastic would keep on trucking.
I think the misunderstanding arises when a user drops their phone with a glass protector and it breaks thus "saving" their screen. But what if they had plastic? Would the screen of broken then? What if they had no protector? We can't say for sure what the results would have been. However to the user that is a clear indication of the glass protector working, where as I would say that's only a clear indication of the glass protector breaking easily.
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However to the user that is a clear indication of the glass protector working, where as I would say that's only a clear indication of the glass protector breaking easily.
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Right. That's how I see it as a user. Also, the clarity, feel, and scratch resistance can't be matched by plastic.
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I've actually dropped my 5x naked just once so far and got lucky without any cracks, but I do believe if I had a glass SP it would've broken. In the end I think it's luck and a good case that will protect from a bad drop as the screen protector is mainly for scratch protection. I've kept my glass SP as a backup in case the factory oleophobic coating stops working as effectively.
Here.
IQ Shield LiQuidSkin - Huawei Nexus 6P Screen Protector (2015) & Warranty Replacements - HD Ultra Clear Film - Protective Guard - Extremely Smooth / Self-Healing / Bubble-Free Shield
They also have glass. Check em both.
http://www.amazon.com/B016CKR3QA/dp...055&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6p+screen+protector

Glass durability and use of phone after a crack?

Alright, So I am coming from a Sony z3c. I loved the phone, honestly, amazing phone. But after having to replace the glass almost 10 times over the last 2 years. I do have questions.
I see that the phone uses Gorilla glass. How durable is this? I have a tendency to be rough on phones. Even if they are in my pocket. So what are the chances of the glass breaking from standard use or a drop from say 3ft?
If the glass cracks, will I still be able to use the phone? Or is the touch sensor completely integrated with the glass?
Basically, how durable is the glass. And will I still be able to fully use my phone while I wait for replacement parts?
I suggest you search for some drop tests on youtube. What I can tell you is that the touch panel is stuck to the glass panel, and although it might still work after a crack (depending on how bad the crack is), you will always need to replace both, instead of just the glass. I think it costs around 90 dollars/euros for oneplus to replace it. Doesn't oneplus "offer" some accident protection plan (optional buy) when purchasing the phone? Look into that.
One very expensive habit you have there. :silly: I too come the Z3 and then Z3+ never cracked the screen once but I always had them in a case and a tempered glass front. But talking about this 3T I would say it would be more durable for back pockets due to aluminium build but may have slightly less shock damping factor. I would invest in a quality case that you like to protect the corners and edges. The build quality to me is superior to Sony's "sandwich" and the camera should not scratch easily. Look up jerryrig everything on YouTube he has a video on the OP3 & T.
Thank you for the replies guys, I will check the youtube suggestions out. I have always used a premium case and screen protectors. But yes, I think I am just cursed with phones.

Question Will rear camera protectors damage the painted area on the S21 Ultra when trying to remove them?

Just wondering the sticky residue from a camera protector would damage the painted surface of the rear cameras on the S21 Ultra?
Jerryrig shows that this painted surface scratches pretty easily and just wondering if using a camera protector is a good idea or not?
Seen several people saying that camera protectors are hard to remove from the Ultra, broke, cracked and damaged the painted area trying to remove.
Have the Whitestone dome ones coming and think I'll hold off installing these.
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Seen several people saying that camera protectors are hard to remove from the Ultra, broke, cracked and damaged the painted area trying to remove.
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I was looking at the customer reviews for the LK, ESR, Spigen, and amFilm S21 Ultra camera screen protectors and I did not find anyone complaining about the damaged painted area when removing the protector. Where did you find these comments? I found some complaints about the blurriness of the photos, though.
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I was looking at the customer reviews for the LK, ESR, Spigen, and amFilm S21 Ultra camera screen protectors and I did not find anyone complaining about the damaged painted area when removing the protector. Where did you find these comments? I found some complaints about the blurriness of the photos, though.
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Seen several different ones on Amazon reviews. Here is one from the AmFilm camera protectors:
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1.0 out of 5 stars Unless you want to ruin your camera DO NOT BUY
Reviewed in the United States on January 28, 2021
Color: BlackVerified Purchase
These things are near impossible to take off. I misplaced mine and wanted to try reapplying a new one. While attempting to take it off it shattered into a million piece by piece, while still being glued onto my camera. Wanted to protect my camera but instead I had it scratched by the shattered protector. Took me over an hour to get it completely off, and by then the damage had already been done BUYER BEWARE
It already has a built in factory lens/camera protector. Nothing else other than a good case with a raised cam module guard is needed.
My 10+ is nearly a year and a half old. I live in a desert town; wind, sand, dust and grit. Zero damage to the plastic factory cam protector.
I use a Zizo Bolt case with a raised cam guard (do not use a case cam hole as a finger grip to take it out of your pocket!).
All I do is avoid touching it except to clean it occasionally with a dry microfiber cloth.
Just keep your fingers* off of it and you'll be fine.
They're replaceable anyway...
*dry finger/palms are abrasive. Enough so as to be able to polish glass. Any grit or sand on your finger can easily mar the surface.
I agree that the amfilm has very, very strong adhesive. It was hard to remove but thankfully it didn't crack and the paint didn't come off.
It caused condensation due to the gap between the protector and the lens glass so I had to take it out. And if you do want a camera protector, make sure the are cutouts for the camera holes. Kinda negates the protector but I suppose that's if you want to protect the metal frame.
I posted in the other thread, but mine shattered because of the adhesive and caused light scratches on the metal.
It's different from past generations since these camera bumps are metal. Old tempered glass adhesive isn't strong enough and they're using stronger stuff.
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Just wondering the sticky residue from a camera protector would damage the painted surface of the rear cameras on the S21 Ultra?
Jerryrig shows that this painted surface scratches pretty easily and just wondering if using a camera protector is a good idea or not?
Seen several people saying that camera protectors are hard to remove from the Ultra, broke, cracked and damaged the painted area trying to remove.
Have the Whitestone dome ones coming and think I'll hold off installing these.
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Possible, I do not know these products.
But as some one else said, the glass itself very probably don't need protection. The aluminium though, yeah.
I plan to get a dbrand skin which is just a sticker that will cover the metal part, and a case as well for when on a trip (remember those?) and such.
In my opinion, that should be enough.
I bought the whitestone protector, didn't think about taking it off...
felloffthetruck said:
Seen several different ones on Amazon reviews. Here is one from the AmFilm camera protectors...
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Thanks! If I understood it right, the scratches on the aluminum camera housing were not caused by the strong glue but by the glass shards (glass is harder than aluminum).
I was thinking to protect just the camera housing with a dbrand camera skin. The black carbon fiber skin looks very nice on the phantom black S21 Ultra. It is also very cheap.
Did anyone have any issue removing dbrand skins from a metal camera housing?
These things are close to difficult to take off. I lost mine and needed to have a go at reapplying another one. While endeavoring to take it off it broke into 1,000,000 piece by piece,if you want while as yet being stuck onto my camera. Needed to safeguard my camera yet rather I had it but if you want to paint the mobile you can also use floor paint to paint the mobile and scratched by the broke defender. Took me more than an hour to get it totally off, and by then the harm had proactively been done Purchaser Be careful....
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These things are close to difficult to take off. I lost mine and needed to have a go at reapplying another one. While endeavoring to take it off it broke into 1,000,000 piece by piece,if you want while as yet being stuck onto my camera. Needed to safeguard my camera yet rather I had it but if you want to paint the mobile you can also use floor paint to paint the mobile and scratched by the broke defender. Took me more than an hour to get it totally off, and by then the harm had proactively been done Purchaser Be careful....
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See my above post. The less you screw around with the builtin factory protector the better off it will be.

Question Can you rely on the screen protector that comes with the phone?

I am using the screen protector that came with the phone but I am worried that it might not be that good to rely on.
I am not taking about dropping the phone or something. All am I caring about is scratches from the pen or stuff in my pocket. Can this screen protector help against these or it is useless?
The reason I kept it, because it fit so well and it does not affect the screen quality.
Obviously experience may vary quite a bit due to different conditions. For me so far the stock protector works quite well and protects the screen from scratches.
But as I like the "Glass feeling" a bit more I'll fit a tempered glass protector sometime in the future....
Agree. I will do the same. It is just not easy to find a glass protector that actually fits
Khalid Madkour said:
Agree. I will do the same. It is just not easy to find a glass protector that actually fits
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Well, both Amfilm and Whitestone have UV-based tempered glass protectors that fit really good, but do you want to spend the money for those?
They're not like $10 for 3 pieces or something
MasterThiefGarrett said:
Well, both Amfilm and Whitestone have UV-based tempered glass protectors that fit really good, but do you want to spend the money for those?
They're not like $10 for 3 pieces or something
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Spending 70~100 USD to protect 1200$ is worth it but the problem these kind of screen protectors can not be found in Egypt I think so until I find a way to get them without paying much taxes and fees I will stick with the default S.protector
I remember Samsung saying that a glass screen cover would interfere with the fingerprint scanner. I'm curious as to whether or not that's actually the case...
I had problems with the finger reader. He caught the fourth, fifth time. (I added the same one a couple of times and it didn't help.) Today I took off the factory foil and magic. The reader catches off the shot every time!
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I remember Samsung saying that a glass screen cover would interfere with the fingerprint scanner. I'm curious as to whether or not that's actually the case...
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I tried a cheap UV-based tempered glass (10 euros) and on my Note 10 it works flawless every time.
And since the S21 series has a much bigger sensor I expect it to work fine as well, I know Whitestone Dome works fine, AND the AmFilm one too.
I used Note 8 for 3 years without screen protector and had maybe 1 micro scratch that was only visible when screen off. Now still using S21U with pre installed screen protector but the feeling of it is not so good, very rubbery especially if fingers are wet. Debetaing to take it of because I have some problems with fingerprint reader too, it's not bad but sometimes it's not detecting the finger.
Make sure your case has a lip guard. That has always worked for me.
I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.
enigmaamit said:
I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.
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A case with enough lip protection is good enough.
Thank you for sharing you experience. I decided to stay with the factory screen protector. It really love it as it fits the screen so well and is clear as if there was no screen protector.
enigmaamit said:
I really liked the factory fitted screen protector.
It is more than adequate to protect the screen from scratches from everyday use. Unfortunately the corner peeled off after getting caught on some fabric on the couch so I had to replace it.
I decided against a tempered glass protector for the following reasons:
1. Regular tempered glass SP interfere with the ultrasonic fingerprint reader. Go to amazon and search for s21U TP screen protectors and you'll see what i mean.
2. There are some TG screen protectors that use UV light hardened resins to stick to screen. These are supposed to be fingerprint reader friendly but the good ones like Whitestone Dome are very expensive (for a disposable item) and you have to get a perfect installation, with the resin being a potential hazard if it seeps into the phone.
The cheap ones on the other hand are usually not very good and have a thinned out layer of glass overlying the fingerprint reader that is really irritating to look at.
3. I'm not sure what that UV hardening adhesive does to the oleophobic coating on the screen over a long time.
4. TG screen protectors do not have an anti-reflective coating like the phone screen. So once you apply it, the surface becomes shiny and reflective like glossy screens. This doesnt happen with the softer TPU protectors. Maybe someone who has recently applied a TG SP can post his experience here?
3. TG also adds thickness to the screen as compared to TPU screen protectors, and this is a pretty chunky phone already.
I moved away from tempered glass protectors about 3 years ago after trying a bunch of them and have been using TPU (liquid skin type) SP since then. They are cheap, easy to install, usually come in multi-packs so you can swap them out when it gets dirty or peels off or scratches etc, without breaking the bank or feeling sorry that you have to throw away a $30 - $50 tempered glass protector that you applied with utmost care. The newer materials are also very nice to touch, virtually indistinguishable from the underlying glass.
Having said all this, I have friends that swear by tempered glass protectors and are willing to pay anything to have the feel of glass under their fingers. There's no right or wrong answer here, just what works for you.
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A case with enough lip protection is good enough.
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Yes. For most purposes, I agree with you that it's enough. I used to think so too... Never used a screen protector on any of my phones. Tried the tempered glass one on my last phone but felt it was too thick and reflective, so there is away and went with a naked screen. The experience was amazing, interfacing with the screen without any barriers. At least until I got two mysterious scratches on my OnePlus 6 screen, about 2 months apart, one after the other. Never dropped the phone, didn't put it face down, just used it normally. Must've been a grain of sand in my pocket... I'm still not sure to this day what caused the scratches...
I was using a spigen case without a screen protector then. Had to live with those scratches for 2 years. It was heartbreaking to see them everytime... See attached pics.
Since that experience, I vowed never to go with the screen naked again. Maybe I was just unlucky. But the fact that it happened twice is something I cannot ignore, and cannot risk on this new phone. It's too beautiful and too expensive to gamble with, at least based on my personal experience.
Second day I had my Note 10+ it faceplanted on a rough piece of 1/8" thick aluminum angle from pocket height. The metal hit the curve portion of the screen. Oh Yeah... isn't that special?
The case soaked up some of the impact but the factory screen protect was hit and savaged.
It protected the screen, zero damage. gulp.
Been using wet apply Gorilla IQ Sheild after trying a bunch of products including Whitestone.
After 9 months it's still on and while it's due to be replaced it's held up amazing well for $5 a pop.
Unlike the other junk, it's easy to apply and line up properly
I use the Zizo Bolt case to provide to majority of the protection. Raised screen guards on all sides are needed as I learned earlier
After 1.5 years, zero damage.
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Must've been a grain of sand in my pocket... I'm still not sure to this day what caused the scratches...
I was using a spigen case without a screen protector then. Had to live with those scratches for 2 years. It was heartbreaking to see them everytime... See attached pics.
Since that experience, I vowed never to go with the screen naked again. Maybe I was just unlucky. But the fact that it happened twice is something I cannot ignore, and cannot risk on this new phone. It's too beautiful and too expensive to gamble with, at least based on my personal experience.
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Sand will do it every time. I tried the same experiment over 2 years ago with the same results. I always use a good case and screen protector because permanent scratches pi$$ me off.
Clarification: Case with a lip everywhere and a regular TPU screen protector is great for the majority of use-cases out there. And, it is the cheapest option.
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Clarification: Case with a lip everywhere and a regular TPU screen protector is great for the majority of use-cases out there. And, it is the cheapest option.
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And very effective when using a good case.
BDU upper pant leg cargo pockets are great for smartphones...just make sure to keep the rear facing button, buttoned or your will lose it

Accessories Which screen protector do you use ?

Hi everyone
so far I can't find proper screen protector for my mi 11. I tried 3 different brands for tempered glass and all of them are the same:
not bent enough on the edges
fingerprint issues
back gesture don't work most of the time
adhesive is sooooooo weak
touch sensitivity issues
I'm looking for tempered glass options since I drop my phone a lot
if you have experience with good screen protectors please share
I would advise you not to use one. The tempered glass will in no case protect you display when it falls. The fact that the tempered glass breaks when a device falls, doesn't mean that without it the damage to be on the display itself. Tempered glass is pretty fragile and breaks very easily. So a slight fall will already break it where you display will not.
The Mi11 as Victus glass and is a perfect balance between scratch resistance and protection against ballistic impact (like a fall). During a live stream when the Mi11 was introduced in my country we dropped the device like 4 times on the ground while standing on a table.
My Mi11 came with factory foil protector which I removed after a week or two. The colors are always a bit less with the foil or glass on it. And the display is one of the main reasons to get this device, so it's a waste to put something on it.
Just use a skin or a case if you want to prevent some damage to the device directly but I would really not put a tempered glass or anything else on the display.
Edit: otherwise, if you really really want it; go with the aqua gel layers. They will always perfectly fit, add some extra scratch protection to your device (but less then the actual screen itself). You will still have less speed with the fingerprint and the colors will be a bit less too but that is with every layer you put on it. Again, wouldn't recommend.

			
				
Danacy said:
I would advise you not to use one. The tempered glass will in no case protect you display when it falls. The fact that the tempered glass breaks when a device falls, doesn't mean that without it the damage to be on the display itself. Tempered glass is pretty fragile and breaks very easily. So a slight fall will already break it where you display will not.
The Mi11 as Victus glass and is a perfect balance between scratch resistance and protection against ballistic impact (like a fall). During a live stream when the Mi11 was introduced in my country we dropped the device like 4 times on the ground while standing on a table.
My Mi11 came with factory foil protector which I removed after a week or two. The colors are always a bit less with the foil or glass on it. And the display is one of the main reasons to get this device, so it's a waste to put something on it.
Just use a skin or a case if you want to prevent some damage to the device directly but I would really not put a tempered glass or anything else on the display.
Edit: otherwise, if you really really want it; go with the aqua gel layers. They will always perfectly fit, add some extra scratch protection to your device (but less then the actual screen itself). You will still have less speed with the fingerprint and the colors will be a bit less too but that is with every layer you put on it. Again, wouldn't recommend.
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thanks for the advice.
I had s7 edge before and I had to give up the screen protector because of the curved edges and gorilla glass got destroyed. I know it is not harder or tougher but it can take some beats away from the gorilla glass and it is cheaply replaceable unlike the gorilla glass.
Is the hydrogel smooth enough ?, how do you compare it to the phone glass and pre-applied screen protector
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I'm not gonna buy 80$ screen protector
and I think the only useful part of this video is the scratch resistance.
i keep using the one which is preinstalled
Once that one is broken, i remove it and use it without any
I always do it like this
aly_hosny said:
thanks for the advice.
I had s7 edge before and I had to give up the screen protector because of the curved edges and gorilla glass got destroyed. I know it is not harder or tougher but it can take some beats away from the gorilla glass and it is cheaply replaceable unlike the gorilla glass.
Is the hydrogel smooth enough ?, how do you compare it to the phone glass and pre-applied screen protector
I'm not gonna buy 80$ screen protector
and I think the only useful part of this video is the scratch resistance.
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Why not? I payed 750€ for the phone so 80$ is completely ok for a really good screen protector. But I will do exactly the same as @qvert . I will use the one that came with the device until it gets ****t and than just use it without..
I bet that some people will not even know that Mi 11 comes with screen protector pre applied
I'm using hydrogel flex covers....
aly_hosny said:
thanks for the advice.
I had s7 edge before and I had to give up the screen protector because of the curved edges and gorilla glass got destroyed. I know it is not harder or tougher but it can take some beats away from the gorilla glass and it is cheaply replaceable unlike the gorilla glass.
Is the hydrogel smooth enough ?, how do you compare it to the phone glass and pre-applied screen protector
I'm not gonna buy 80$ screen protector
and I think the only useful part of this video is the scratch resistance.
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Well, like I said: I wouldn't really recommend that either but it's smooth enough. Had one on myt Mi9T Pro for a while but I removed it and the fingerprint scanner went from mediocre to pretty okay.
And again, the ballistic impact of a fall cannot really be absorbed by a screen protector, glass, gel or whatever. So damage prevention for that situation is not really happening. But if you still want it, I would go for something like this:
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005002193910595.html
aly_hosny said:
Hi everyone
so far I can't find proper screen protector for my mi 11. I tried 3 different brands for tempered glass and all of them are the same:
not bent enough on the edges
fingerprint issues
back gesture don't work most of the time
adhesive is sooooooo weak
touch sensitivity issues
I'm looking for tempered glass options since I drop my phone a lot
if you have experience with good screen protectors please share
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I use the one that came pre-installed. Perfect for me.
Danacy said:
I would advise you not to use one. The tempered glass will in no case protect you display when it falls. The fact that the tempered glass breaks when a device falls, doesn't mean that without it the damage to be on the display itself. Tempered glass is pretty fragile and breaks very easily. So a slight fall will already break it where you display will not.
The Mi11 as Victus glass and is a perfect balance between scratch resistance and protection against ballistic impact (like a fall). During a live stream when the Mi11 was introduced in my country we dropped the device like 4 times on the ground while standing on a table.
My Mi11 came with factory foil protector which I removed after a week or two. The colors are always a bit less with the foil or glass on it. And the display is one of the main reasons to get this device, so it's a waste to put something on it.
Just use a skin or a case if you want to prevent some damage to the device directly but I would really not put a tempered glass or anything else on the display.
Edit: otherwise, if you really really want it; go with the aqua gel layers. They will always perfectly fit, add some extra scratch protection to your device (but less then the actual screen itself). You will still have less speed with the fingerprint and the colors will be a bit less too but that is with every layer you put on it. Again, wouldn't recommend
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Glass is glass , and glass can break. No matter if it's victus or not , if it hits the right angle it will break. Unless you are a super careful person , i would not recommend using without a screen protector. For me it's a must , i tried using my RM5G without protection and broke it in less than 3 months.

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