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I just pre-ordered my galaxy s6 edge on amazon and i have a couple of questions:
1) Will the "Nexus Wireless Charger" sold by google work with my new S6 or i'll have to buy a new wireless charger???
2) Does the "Car wireless charger" sold by samsung charge slowly compared to "wired charging"??
3) I just checked my local samsung online store and only this car wireless charger (Model number: EP-HN910I) is listed. It also states it's for the galaxy note 4.
What is the difference with the one sold on the us online store (Model number: EP-HN910IBUSTA)??????
4) As for "wired car charger" i found this one by samsung (Model number: ECA-U21CBE).... will this charger charge the galaxy s6 as fast as possible in my car or there's something better??
Thanks in advance
riki66 said:
1) Will the "Nexus Wireless Charger" sold by google work with my new S6 or i'll have to buy a new wireless charger???
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Yes, the Nexus charger uses Qi so that should work with the S6.
2) Does the "Car wireless charger" sold by samsung charge slowly compared to "wired charging"??
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Yes, Qi charging is slower than wired. Qi is currently limited to 5W (1A) for phones and as far as I know Samsung arn't doing anything to go higher than this. Samsung's car charger should be similar to your nexus charger. By wire it supports fast charging (~15W), but any decent 10W (2A) charger will be twice as fast as wireless.
Edit: I obviously havent tried this with the S6 and Samsung's charger, but my experience in the past is a good Qi charger will slowly charge a phone while you are using GPS with screen brightness turned up. It is slow though, the charger is barely providing more power than the phone is using.
3) I just checked my local samsung online store and only this car wireless charger (Model number: EP-HN910I) is listed. It also states it's for the galaxy note 4. What is the difference with the one sold on the us online store (Model number: EP-HN910IBUSTA)??????.
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I don't know the answer to this. I would guess there is no difference.
4) As for "wired car charger" i found this one by samsung (Model number: ECA-U21CBE).... will this charger charge the galaxy s6 as fast as possible in my car or there's something better??
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That is a 2A charger. (10W).
The phone supports faster but I am not sure if there is a suitable car charger yet. There may never be because Samsung's support page says fast charging only works when the screen is off so it is probably pointless in a car.
wireless charging is much slower.. but not only is it slower, it heats up the battery more and puts more wear on the battery as well due to heat and wasted energy involved with wireless charging.
for car charger i would recommend the RavPower, it puts out 2.4A per jack and you can charge 3 deices at the same time and use your own USB cables.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OT7PJ60/
or the Anker, includes 1 cable, but 1 less port
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/
they also sell it for 2 bucks cheaper without the cable... both chargers have great reviews, and both will charge the phone as fast as possible.
Thank you very much for both of your help!!!
You cleared all my doubts!!
I just ordered the anker car charger from amazon!!!
Thanks again.
why not use a qualcomm 2.0 car charger. I do agree about the wireless charging.
bobn said:
why not use a qualcomm 2.0 car charger. I do agree about the wireless charging.
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The Galaxy S6 doesn't have a qualcomm processor so it shouldn't make a difference right??
Doesn't Samsung use a proprietary solution when it comes to fast charging???
riki66 said:
The Galaxy S6 doesn't have a qualcomm processor so it shouldn't make a difference right??
Doesn't Samsung use a proprietary solution when it comes to fast charging???
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the QUALCOMM chargers (either wall or car) will work with s6 or s6 edge. The fast charging capability is a feature that I really like
bobn said:
the QUALCOMM chargers (either wall or car) will work with s6 or s6 edge. The fast charging capability is a feature that I really like
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it will charge, but unless you have a Qualcomm 2.0 phone any other phone you plug in will just "adapt" to the fastest charge rate in this case will be 5V @ 2.1-2.4A.
tft said:
it will charge, but unless you have a Qualcomm 2.0 phone any other phone you plug in will just "adapt" to the fastest charge rate in this case will be 5V @ 2.1-2.4A.
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I tested an S6 with a QUALCOMM 2.0 charger and did get message that 'fast charger' connected. So S 6 and S 6 Edge will provide fast charge with a Qualcomm fast charger
bobn said:
I tested an S6 with a QUALCOMM 2.0 charger and did get message that 'fast charger' connected. So S 6 and S 6 Edge will provide fast charge with a Qualcomm fast charger
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did you measure the Amps and Volts? anything above 2A is "fast charge"
in order for it to be the "fast charge" it has to be @ 9 Volts not the typical 5V.
not saying the S6 won't work with Qualcomm, because i don' t have a phone to test the amps, but mostly only phones with Qualcomm chips are the ones that support Qualcomms own "fast charge" mode, and samsung S6 has no Qualcomm. one would think it would be a license patent thing that wouldn't be compataible with just any device..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-android-devices-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-20
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I tested an S6 with a QUALCOMM 2.0 charger and did get message that 'fast charger' connected. So S 6 and S 6 Edge will provide fast charge with a Qualcomm fast charger
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Which One did you use ?
If possible Please list a few power banks that will Fast charge the S6 Edge
Please
Made a list of QUALCOMM 2.0 chargers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/accessories/power-bank-capable-adaptive-fast-t3048671
isangelous said:
Yes, the Nexus charger uses Qi so that should work with the S6.
Yes, Qi charging is slower than wired. Qi is currently limited to 5W (1A) for phones and as far as I know Samsung arn't doing anything to go higher than this. Samsung's car charger should be similar to your nexus charger. By wire it supports fast charging (~15W), but any decent 10W (2A) charger will be twice as fast as wireless.
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The new Samsung Wireless Charging Pad being released alongside the Galaxy S6/Edge is actually a 2A charger.
Poetique said:
The new Samsung Wireless Charging Pad being released alongside the Galaxy S6/Edge is actually a 2A charger.
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Does it actually output 2A to the phone? The sticker on the back says "Input: 2A", but it is normal for the transmitters to have a higher input than output current. I think they will have just put 2A to match the output rating of the wired charger it goes with. The S5 charger pad also says "Input: 2A" and that was a normal 5W pad.
The Samsung S6 Pad is listed on the WPC page as a "Lower Power Transmitter", which means 5W max. They did recently increase the Qi standard to 15W, but that is only a draft specification (called Medium Power) and they are not listing any products available with it at the moment. (And of course, it would be at least 3A in).
I am not saying it definitely doesnt support fast charging - TI have a transmitter/receiver solution which is 10W but also supports Qi 5W (though that needs 12v in so isn't used here). If they supported something like this though I am sure they would have mentioned it. Plus the need to support PMA on the receiver would have limited their choices of receiver chip. I wouldn't be surprised if they are using TI's solution, which is 5W.
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Does it actually output 2A to the phone? The sticker on the back says "Input: 2A", but it is normal for the transmitters to have a higher input than output current. I think they will have just put 2A to match the output rating of the wired charger it goes with. The S5 charger pad also says "Input: 2A" and that was a normal 5W pad.
The Samsung S6 Pad is listed on the WPC page as a "Lower Power Transmitter", which means 5W max. They did recently increase the Qi standard to 15W, but that is only a draft specification (called Medium Power) and they are not listing any products available with it at the moment. (And of course, it would be at least 3A in).
I am not saying it definitely doesnt support fast charging - TI have a transmitter/receiver solution which is 10W but also supports Qi 5W (though that needs 12v in so isn't used here). If they supported something like this though I am sure they would have mentioned it. Plus the need to support PMA on the receiver would have limited their choices of receiver chip. I wouldn't be surprised if they are using TI's solution, which is 5W.
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I wondered that as well, though I wasn't able to actually find any hard evidence one way or another. Even the listing for the item on Best Buy doesn't mention it (or at least it didn't last night). Might just have to take the wait-and-see approach with this one. Taken at face value though, the possibility is there. My gut says you're probably right though.
i have a spare motorola turbo charger (qualcomm 2.0 quick charger) that came with my droid turbo. I preordered the s6 edge and was wondering if the turbo charger will work with fast charging of the s6 edge? just want to clarify. thanks
Poetique said:
The new Samsung Wireless Charging Pad being released alongside the Galaxy S6/Edge is actually a 2A charger.
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When will we be able to buy it ?
any updates please
ilordvader said:
When will we be able to buy it ?
any updates please
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You'll be able to buy it about a week ago lol.
Keep in mind though it is indeed simply 2A input. Only 1A output.
Poetique said:
You'll be able to buy it about a week ago lol.
Keep in mind though it is indeed simply 2A input. Only 1A output.
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oh that sucks
Now we have Power bank with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0
better to get that then
ilordvader said:
oh that sucks
Now we have Power bank with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0
better to get that then
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Yeah if fast charging is what you're looking for that's definitely the way to go.
The alternative wireless solution is to simply get a wireless power bank, but of course that still won't charge quickly; though they are less cumbersome.
tft said:
did you measure the Amps and Volts? anything above 2A is "fast charge"
in order for it to be the "fast charge" it has to be @ 9 Volts not the typical 5V.
not saying the S6 won't work with Qualcomm, because i don' t have a phone to test the amps, but mostly only phones with Qualcomm chips are the ones that support Qualcomms own "fast charge" mode, and samsung S6 has no Qualcomm. one would think it would be a license patent thing that wouldn't be compataible with just any device..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-android-devices-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-20
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i have s6 gold edge, it does show "fast charger connected" when connected to a charger with qualcomm 2.0 fast charge.
if it charging at typical 5v, this "fast charger connected" would not shows up.
Hi guys!
I recently switched from a Samsung galaxy s5 to a nexus 6. It's been more than great, really. Why did I ever buy galaxy phones?!
I'm confused over quick charge 2.0 and compatibility with other chargers and couldn't find any proper information on the subject.
At the moment I own:
- Aukey 5-port 35W Charger
- Tecknet 6-port 50W Charger
- Anker Astro E5 15000mAh battery bank with 2A + 1A ports
- Large assortment of other single port chargers @ 2-2.4A from Samsung, ASUS, and several aftermarket brands.
All of these chargers, and the battery, delivered (tested with the Ampere app and tons of different cables) ~2A to the galaxy but only deliver ~1A to the nexus 6. The Motorola turbo charger obviously works as intended. Now my questions:
- Does quick charge 2.0 limit any non compatible chargers to 1 amp?
- Is there a way to mod chargers to at least get back 2A charging?
- Worst case, does anyone have experience with a recommendable battery bank and multi port chargers that support quick charge 2.0?
Thanks!
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@cam30era
I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
Jonathan030 said:
@cam30era
I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
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Welcome.
BTW, there's a button for that...
Jonathan030 said:
@cam30era
I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
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Why would you need options relating to change charge speeds? Qualcomm quick charger works on any kernel, if you're talking about USB fast charging, it's already enabled in Franco kernel.
There isn't a need to switch to other kernels.
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@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
Jonathan030 said:
@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
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Laptop USB ports at limited to 500mah output unless its a dedicated charging port with USB 3.0 then It can push 1.6A so I don't see how that's possible to charge at 2A from a laptop.
@Pilz this is irrelevant. My 2014 macbook pro charges my old phone much faster than the nexus 6.
Refer to the original post for the topic at hand
Quickcharge 2.0 devices uses the data pin on usb to determine if the charger connected is a quickcharge 2.0 charger. The devices you are using do not have this capability so they charge slower. I do not think this can be changed kernel or phone side.
Thanks! I guess I'll have to replace the chargers/battery
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- Worst case, does anyone have experience with a recommendable battery bank and multi port chargers that support quick charge 2.0?
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Here are a few on Amazon.com:
CHOE 6 port home charger with 2 Quick Charge 2.0 ports: $34.99 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBK9M08
CHOE 4 port car charger with 1 Quick Charge 2.0 port: $21.99 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R18XTCA
Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 10000 mAh battery pack: $29.99 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBDI7EC
I haven't tried any of them yet; the car charger arrives tomorrow
Jonathan030 said:
@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
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I could be wrong S5 I looked up uses usb3.0 right? Does your macbook have usb3.0? If so then the usb 3.0 port can supply more current when detected being a usb3.0 device by your computer and ever more so it is possible for the mac to output a little more current. Can you plug in the S5 then open system profiler to look at USB device tree to see current being delivered? The nexus 6 only using usb2.0 would not get the same treatment by the comp and only receive the max standard of .5 A.
There are many details about the actual max current that can be supplied by the computer's ubs port that I don't know when they are applicable I've just stated reading so I'm not sure why you can get 2.0 A on your S5 and not less, since there are standards that set the max current. Even more complicated is that under certain conditions macs have their own heirarchy of supplying more current to some devices if they "say they need" more current and even then there are limitations. So again I'm not sure what is at play exactly, that determines why the S5 gets more than usual. The .5A is normal for current output on USB 2.0 in the nexus6.
I actually got this in the mail yesterday, and the wall chargers works great...Havent have a chance to test out the car one though!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q6LK81I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plus its officially certified by Qualcomm for support 2.0
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@Pilz this is irrelevant. My 2014 macbook pro charges my old phone much faster than the nexus 6.
Refer to the original post for the topic at hand
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That doesn't make sense which is why I went into some detail about laptop or any computers USB ports. I unfortunately had a MB Pro and hated it, and it never charged any of my phone a at 2A including my wife's old S5. I don't have it anymore so I can't test it again to verify. The person I quoted below explained it a little better than I did.
MunkinDrunky said:
I could be wrong S5 I looked up uses usb3.0 right? Does your macbook have usb3.0? If so then the usb 3.0 port can supply more current when detected being a usb3.0 device by your computer and ever more so it is possible for the mac to output a little more current. Can you plug in the S5 then open system profiler to look at USB device tree to see current being delivered? The nexus 6 only using usb2.0 would not get the same treatment by the comp and only receive the max standard of .5 A.
There are many details about the actual max current that can be supplied by the computer's ubs port that I don't know when they are applicable I've just stated reading so I'm not sure why you can get 2.0 A on your S5 and not less, since there are standards that set the max current. Even more complicated is that under certain conditions macs have their own heirarchy of supplying more current to some devices if they "say they need" more current and even then there are limitations. So again I'm not sure what is at play exactly, that determines why the S5 gets more than usual. The .5A is normal for current output on USB 2.0 in the nexus6.
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Tower1972 said:
I actually got this in the mail yesterday, and the wall chargers works great...Havent have a chance to test out the car one though!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q6LK81I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plus its officially certified by Qualcomm for support 2.0
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Getwow is officially certified? Why, because they're Amazon page says so?
Scroll down close to the bottom to see Qualcomm certified accessories:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
PaisanNYC said:
Getwow is officially certified? Why, because they're Amazon page says so?
Scroll down close to the bottom to see Qualcomm certified accessories:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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Those lying bastids! They even stamped Qualcomm 2.0 right on the side lol . Regardless..Wall chargers works as does the car charger, same as the Motorola one
Tower1972 said:
Those lying bastids! They even stamped Qualcomm 2.0 right on the side lol . Regardless..Wall chargers works as does the car charger, same as the Motorola one
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Qualcomm doesn't post every certified charger on their website. In would email the manufacturer and ask for their certification or a picture of it which most will show you assuming on they're legit.
Jonathan030 said:
Hi guys!
I recently switched from a Samsung galaxy s5 to a nexus 6. It's been more than great, really. Why did I ever buy galaxy phones?!
I'm confused over quick charge 2.0 and compatibility with other chargers and couldn't find any proper information on the subject.
At the moment I own:
- Aukey 5-port 35W Charger
- Tecknet 6-port 50W Charger
- Anker Astro E5 15000mAh battery bank with 2A + 1A ports
- Large assortment of other single port chargers @ 2-2.4A from Samsung, ASUS, and several aftermarket brands.
All of these chargers, and the battery, delivered (tested with the Ampere app and tons of different cables) ~2A to the galaxy but only deliver ~1A to the nexus 6. The Motorola turbo charger obviously works as intended. Now my questions:
- Does quick charge 2.0 limit any non compatible chargers to 1 amp?
- Is there a way to mod chargers to at least get back 2A charging?
- Worst case, does anyone have experience with a recommendable battery bank and multi port chargers that support quick charge 2.0?
Thanks!
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It is technically incorrect for the phone to accept more than 1 amp on a 5v charger. The quick charge *protocol* negotiates a non-standard charge voltage (up to 12 volts!!!). Quick charge is actually BAD FOR YOUR BATTERY! The higher the current, the greater the temperature. The greater the temperature, the lower the battery life.
Unless you *need* it to charge that fast in an emergency, don't.
I've never even plugged in the charger that came with mine, and I don't intend to.
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It is technically incorrect for the phone to accept more than 1 amp on a 5v charger. The quick charge *protocol* negotiates a non-standard charge voltage (up to 12 volts!!!). Quick charge is actually BAD FOR YOUR BATTERY! The higher the current, the greater the temperature. The greater the temperature, the lower the battery life.
Unless you *need* it to charge that fast in an emergency, don't.
I've never even plugged in the charger that came with mine, and I don't intend to.
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I've used QC 2.0 since I bought my phone during long days and my battery life is just fine. My battery is cooler during QC than when using qi charging so I disagree. Generally speaking you're correct, however the battery would need to get hot and stay hot which is doesn't. QC 2.0 tapers off the voltage and current overtime to a more "normal" amount. Your argument is an old and doesn't always pertain unless your phone is constantly hot.
You're battery degrades overtime anyway and any heat could speed that up. I used to live in AZ where it gets to 120+[°F] in the summer which is hotter than my battery ever gets even using QC from 1% battery. Quick charging won't hurt your battery any more than normally charging it will. There is a cut off for the temperature it will let your battery get before it drops voltage or amperage which will work whether the what is from charging or the environment you are in. As I stated above qi charging will make your battery heat up more (in my case it does) I will post screenshots to back that up if you would like.
Lastly no one is expecting a battery to last 1-2 years without losing capacity so why worry about it? Your phone is warrantied for at least 1 year (I have moto care on top of the regular warranty) which will cover any battery issues. There's no need to panic or make an issue out of nothing.
Now can we please let this argument die? I keep seeing it and its getting rather old. Even if it does (which I'm not saying it does) degrade slightly faster its not a big deal for the aforementioned reasons. Let's get back on topic here people
Question for all. Whats the model number of you charging pad? I got a Note 5 and a bundled wireless charger and i just realized that they gave me the same charger that they gave me when i got my S6 edge.
Model: EP-PG920I
The Note 5/S6edge + charger is still not officially available from Samsung Store, so is it possible we all got S6 charger, that's isn't fast wireless charging? Takes me 2.5 hours for a full charge when i thought it shouldn't take more than 90 minutes.
Yes, it's been stated many times. The charger best buy or anyone else gives you is not a fast wireless charger and often doesn't work correctly with the note 5.
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Carsus55 said:
Yes, it's been stated many times. The charger best buy or anyone else gives you is not a fast wireless charger and often doesn't work correctly with the note 5.
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"doesn't work correctly" ? I used the old wireless charger at an AT&T store and it worked just fine... albeit much slower than the Fast Charge pads I tested in Korea last month.
They intermittently work.
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When I talked to Samsung they told me the fast chargers, the round white ones, were specifically made for the note 5 and the S 6 + edge. They told me the round black one, the same one Best Buy gave me when I bought my phone, was incompatible with the note 5.
Here's a link to the thread. Hopefully it helps answer some questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/help/wireless-charging-issues-t3185669
I don't have any issues with my S6 wireless charger, except I was expecting getting the Note 5 charger. Also, how could it be incompatible?? It's a standard. That's like saying a microUSB cable is incompatible with Note 5. Doesn't make sense. I don't have any connection problem, it never gives the blinking blue light as some have reported, I actually find it works better with Note 5 than S6 edge. My edge sometimes stopped charging, or just started making the sound like if i just plugged it to power source, until I moved it a little, it could charge OK for 30 minutes than just start freaking out until i moved it.
I thought the same thing...how could the new style charger be incompatible? But that's what the dummy at samsung told me when I called. He seemed very unhelpful and like he didn't care. I'm pretty sure the only requirement to be tech support is the ability to use Google search lol
The older square one best buy exchanged for me works flawlessly. I can't complain tho, it was free with purchase. In the future, I definitely won't be buying any charger that samsung makes. I'll wait for aftermarket fast chargers. At least their tech support staff will care if there's any issues unlike samsung.
Yeah I'm not seeing how there could be an incompatibility. The device is QI certified, and the Samsung charging pads are QI certified. Different specs don't matter, the charging rate will be as fast as both devices can handle. In this case, the older pads only do the original rate, so the phone will only receive 5W instead of 15W that it would receive from the newer "Fast Charge" pads.
If something isn't working, I would bet that it's a problem with the pad hardware, or with the phone hardware.
Am I missing something?
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Question for all. Whats the model number of you charging pad? I got a Note 5 and a bundled wireless charger and i just realized that they gave me the same charger that they gave me when i got my S6 edge.
Model: EP-PG920I
The Note 5/S6edge + charger is still not officially available from Samsung Store, so is it possible we all got S6 charger, that's isn't fast wireless charging? Takes me 2.5 hours for a full charge when i thought it shouldn't take more than 90 minutes.
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this will def clear things up:EP-PN920TWEGUS
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Yeah I'm not seeing how there could be an incompatibility. The device is QI certified, and the Samsung charging pads are QI certified. Different specs don't matter, the charging rate will be as fast as both devices can handle. In this case, the older pads only do the original rate, so the phone will only receive 5W instead of 15W that it would receive from the newer "Fast Charge" pads.
If something isn't working, I would bet that it's a problem with the pad hardware, or with the phone hardware.
Am I missing something?
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I don't have any issues with my S6 wireless charger, except I was expecting getting the Note 5 charger. Also, how could it be incompatible?? It's a standard. That's like saying a microUSB cable is incompatible with Note 5. Doesn't make sense. I don't have any connection problem, it never gives the blinking blue light as some have reported, I actually find it works better with Note 5 than S6 edge. My edge sometimes stopped charging, or just started making the sound like if i just plugged it to power source, until I moved it a little, it could charge OK for 30 minutes than just start freaking out until i moved it.
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I had nothing but issues with the free wireless charger and exchanged it multiple times with no success. After doing some research, it seems some carriers may be having more issues than others. I am on Verizon and have read that the problem may be a software change made to the phone. I do have a Tylt charger that works just fine. There appears to be something causing issues with the communication between the phone and the specific Samsung charger. I had also read that the interruption in charging may be related to receiving notifications. I no longer have a Samsung charger to do any further testing. I would agree that this should not be an issue since it is a standard, but too may people are experiencing issues for it not to be a real problem.
hey guys, please go vote here and lets narrow down where that problem comes from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/help/note-5-wireless-charging-pad-issues-t3197719
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hey guys, please go vote here and lets narrow down where that problem comes from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/help/note-5-wireless-charging-pad-issues-t3197719
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Thanks for this...voted.
Voted- I have the Sprint Note 5 and it has the problem with the Samsung disc charger from best buy.
I have had problems with my s6 edge+ and the note 5 with the regular samsung puck i got from best buy.
Regular galaxy s6 charges flawlessly on it. If u dont have problems u got lucky.
Maybe it has something to do with the new reciever for fast charging. Pisses me off i get a free charger and cant use it on my new phone that it came with.
Someone mentioned software related issue but i have tested the s6 edge+ powered off without any software running and still had problems.
I use sprint service and have a n920p device. I just used the poll. Maybe that will start pointing us in the right direction.
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I was told by the sammy rep at bb that it doesn't have enough power to charge the note 5. I was told by the advanced tech guy on the phone with samsung that my bb got a bad batch.
It's not a bad batch, and not enough power is no excuse. It doesn't work right when the phone is off. Plus is starts charging fine, it shouldn't suddenly have less power after 5-20 mins. Plus, the key is what someone else said: it's a standard. If it says Qi compatible, it's required to work. Samsung is having problems with revenue, and they desperately need sales. I wonder if they are just trying to cover this up until their marketing campaign is done and they have another flagship to push. This is very un-apple like
The Note 5 wireless charge model is EP-PN920BBEG. On the Note 5 wireless charge, it will have the phrase: Fast charge. If you use S6 Edge wireless charge for your note 5, it still charges normally but not fast. You must use the right type of charger to have fast charge . But there are many store still sale the S6 Edge wireless charge for Note 5 users because of profit or another reason. You should ask them carefully. You can google the model to see the Note 5 wireless Charge look like. Sorry for my bad English
On a side note - the USA Samsung website finally lets you order the fast charge pads. $74.95 after tax.... this is what I get for being too impatient to wait for the Korean model my gf bought for me to arrive.
I got a wireless pad bundled with the note 5 at purchase. So far there's no problem with it. Looking at the model number, I think it's intended for the note 5.
I have read that QC 3.0 will be supported since the Qualcomm 820 supports it. But, the S7/edge has the same processor and only supported QC 2.0. Any ideas?
Don't think so...
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It's confusing. The Note7 has a different Adaptive Fast Charger than earlier Samsung phones. The Note7's charger is 12V, 2.1A while the Note5 and S7-series chargers output 9V, 1.67A . QC 2.0 supports a maximum of 2A and works with 5, 9, and 12 volt chargers. Qualcomm's website lists the Note7 as a Quick Charge 2.0 device. So why did Samsung upgrade the charger output? With QC 2.0 maxing out at 2A they could have introduced 12V with the S7-series as there's no USB-C requirement or benefit on 2.0. Maybe Samsung moved from USB 2.0 to USB 3.0 on the Note7 which may have an impact.
So like I said it's confusing. But with a higher output charging adapter and the Note7's assumed ability to accept that higher output you'd have to assume it'll charge faster than the S7-series. Even on QC 2.0 if Qualcomm's website is right. I guess we'll find out more when a more tech focused site like Anandtech and GSMArena do their full testing.
I plan to test it out using my inline USB multimeter that records data and sends it to my PC. Once my Note 7 gets here I'll run some tests assuming I'm not too busy at work
I doubt it. Samsung likes to use their own.
arcanexvi said:
I doubt it. Samsung likes to use their own.
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It doesn't matter what Samsung calls it they're still using Qualcomm quick charge
Pilz said:
It doesn't matter what Samsung calls it they're still using Qualcomm quick charge
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It does if you plug in a "qualcomm" charger and the phone doesn't identify it and use the fast charge or vice versa.
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It does if you plug in a "qualcomm" charger and the phone doesn't identify it and use the fast charge or vice versa.
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It doesn't because Samsung's adaptive fast charging is just QC 2.0 like it was on the S7/S7 Edge. I thoroughly tested mine with a variety of QC 2.0/3.0 chargers a while back.
For those who have supporting chargers, can you confirm the device only supports up to QC 2.0? I know this is true with the S8/+, which is what I'm moving over from.
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For those who have supporting chargers, can you confirm the device only supports up to QC 2.0? I know this is true with the S8/+, which is what I'm moving over from.
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I talked to Samsung mobile tech yesterday and asked them and they said the Note 8 supports 3.0 charging. I also read it on a couple of websites. But some people still say it only supports 2.0. But the SD chipset supports 3.0. The European version does not have a SD chipset it only supports 2.0. But that's why I called Samsung to get it straight from Samsung and I made sure to ask him the same question 3 times to make sure he got what I was asking him.
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I talked to Samsung mobile tech yesterday and asked them and they said the Note 8 supports 3.0 charging. I also read it on a couple of websites. But some people still say it only supports 2.0. But the SD chipset supports 3.0. The European version does not have a SD chipset it only supports 2.0. But that's why I called Samsung to get it straight from Samsung and I made sure to ask him the same question 3 times to make sure he got what I was asking him.
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The interesting thing - and why I ask - is that this phone is not listed on the Qualcomm page that shows devices which support it. What's more, as expected, the S8/+ (SD variant) show as QC 2.0 compatible.
I figured it might be a toss-up, unless people have had a legit chance to test this with QC compliant chargers. When I had my S8+, getting the phone to recognize it was connected to a quick charger was quite a challenge. I even bought new chargers and cables, thinking maybe the hardware was to blame. Nope, just finicky Samsung software.
Can you confirm you've achieved QC 3.0 charging speeds?
I've got the Exynos version and that works fine with my QC 2.0 chargers, I have the view that it was QC 2.0 only.
But I think the trouble you'll have is even if you use a 3.0 charger, QC is backwards compatible, and will use v2.0 if the device doesn't support 3.0, do I'm not sure how easy it will be for you test/check, unless someone has a Note 8 and has two chargers (one QC2.0 and another that's QC3.0) to perform some testing for you to see if there's a difference.
I have both. My wall plug 3.0 is coming in tomorrow. I have a 3.0 car charger now. But I am not going to sit in my car and test it lol. Tomorrow I will do a test and time both. The SD chipset in the Note 8 does support 3.0 QC. Now if Samsung did something from preventing it from charging at 3.0? But like I said that's why I called support and asked.
I have a qc 3.0 from iclever and it's shows the same amount of time to charge with the OEM fast charger.
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aznmode said:
I have a qc 3.0 from iclever and it's shows the same amount of time to charge with the OEM fast charger.
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Do you have a 3.1 type c cable?
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Do you have a 3.1 type c cable?
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I do not. You think this is why? I can't imagine that would be the reason.
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Note 8 is QC 2.0 , however, a QC 3.0 charger will "gear down" to 2.0 when you plug the Note 8 into it.
I have a 3.0 quick charger that would work on my axon 7. Current would get as high as 3 amps while charging. On the Note 8 only getting around 1 amp but still says fast charging.
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Note 8 is QC 2.0 , however, a QC 3.0 charger will "gear down" to 2.0 when you plug the Note 8 into it.
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This was my assumption, just wanted to check to see if anyone had real-world experience to confirm it. I figured maybe since the SD variant supports the hardware, it might work. It's a shame Samsung doesn't implement support for Qualcomm's most current QC standards.
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I do not. You think this is why? I can't imagine that would be the reason.
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I think the cable does make a difference. The cable they give you in the box is 2.0 USB type c. They make 3.1 type c gen 1 will work
Also on Qualcomms website it shows s8 as only qc 2.0. Isn't note 8 the same hardware? So I doubt note 8 is qc 3.0
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
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You know what all day I have been doing research on the Note 8 and 3.0 Quick Charge. Samsung told me that the Note8 supports 3.0 QC. But everything else I have read says no it has 2.0. Which sucks because my V20 had 3.0 QC. I am telling you my V20 charged faster way faster than the Note8. But my battery life is way better with the Note8. I usually don't have to charge my Note8 at all throughout the day. So does it really matter? No but it does suck that Samsung has not stepped up their game and put 3.0 QC on this 1,000 dollar phone.
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I have a 3.0 quick charger that would work on my axon 7. Current would get as high as 3 amps while charging. On the Note 8 only getting around 1 amp but still says fast charging.
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Yep same here. QC3 and I get the same charging rate.
After N7 fiasco last year are you people surprised, Samsung stayed at 2.0? Somebody mentioned pulling 3 amp, not sure what voltage would that require, probably more than 5, maybe 9v? That would be between 15 and 27 W, my soldering iron is about 20 W. All you need is a small short or higher resistance connection for smoke and fire and with millions of users I'm sure people find a way.
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After N7 fiasco last year are you people surprised, Samsung stayed at 2.0? Somebody mentioned pulling 3 amp, not sure what voltage would that require, probably more than 5, maybe 9v? That would be between 15 and 27 W, my soldering iron is about 20 W. All you need is a small short or higher resistance connection for smoke and fire and with millions of users I'm sure people find a way.
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I don't think that had anything to do with the faulty battery. It had 2.0 on the note 7. All the other competitors Flagship phones have 3.0. I think it has more to do with Samsungs own Exynos 8895 does not support 3.0 QC. So if they don't have it nobody will. Sucks
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Yep same here. QC3 and I get the same charging rate.
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I have a 3.0 quick charger that would work on my axon 7. Current would get as high as 3 amps while charging. On the Note 8 only getting around 1 amp but still says fast charging.
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As long as the display is on QC is turned off. This comes from Samsung. They are so afraid of batteries burning up they did everything to reduce heat of the batteries. Though Samsung new batteries do a good job for not catching fire.
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jason504 said:
I think it has more to do with Samsungs own Exynos 8895 does not support 3.0 QC. So if they don't have it nobody will. Sucks
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that is stupid of them. it's like Mercedes, we shouldn't make s class cus not everybody can afford it, let stick with cla.
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I don't think that had anything to do with the faulty battery. It had 2.0 on the note 7. All the other competitors Flagship phones have 3.0. I think it has more to do with Samsungs own Exynos 8895 does not support 3.0 QC. So if they don't have it nobody will. Sucks
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Every single review of N8 I read started with the reminder of N7 more than 6 billion dollar disaster and if you think last year events didn't affect future product developments, you're dreaming. I mean how difficult it would be for Samsung to update Exynos to 3.0 QC? Let's just say maybe it wasn't top priority ATM. Personally I think the phone charges fast enough and I remember my N7 was heating up so much during fast charge, that I disabled it, for fear of damaging battery and this was way before any reports of fire, yeah I got it on the first day it was available and it got hot on the very first charge.