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Hey guys,
what do you think, is it possible to port the Android 2.3 Gingerbread from Nexus S to our Samsung Galaxy S. Because it has a similar hardware!
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You're fast , just wanted to ask this. Hope some legend dude will do this.
Theoretically it should be very simple to port the software. The only difference I can see from a hardware perspective is the NFC chip which simply needs to be disabled in software, and the missing search button which will need to be mapped to a menu long-press.
I did some work on the NITDroid project back when I had an N900, and neither of these is particularly difficult to do.
For nexus S info:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html
http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs
http://www.google.com/phone/compare/?phone=nexus-s&phone=samsung-galaxy-s
will the iNAND be a problem?
Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
Might be a bit of a problem
i can't see any reason we will have issues bringing it to the galaxy s line, especially if its the same SoC... and hardware, gps might be different, but thats a huge bonus anyways
Arkanius said:
Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
Might be a bit of a problem
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yea the Nexus use the 16gb iNAND...
Since Samsung closely helped Google at making the hardware, hopefully we might have a quick 2.3 Samsung version for our devices
Which will then be easier to bring down to stock with the Cyanogen team progress
It must be far easier than a sense port or even cyanogen port.
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One thing that also caught my eye was, that the video recording isn't HD... probably to not throw away boatloads of RAM for the camera...
Arkanius said:
Since Samsung closely helped Google at making the hardware, hopefully we might have a quick 2.3 Samsung version for our devices
Which will then be easier to bring down to stock with the Cyanogen team progress
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I wouldn't bet on that. If Sammy released 2.3 in short order for the SGS it would cannibalize Nexus S sales. The aftermarket community is still the best bet.
binary110 said:
i can't see any reason we will have issues bringing it to the galaxy s line, especially if its the same SoC... and hardware, gps might be different, but thats a huge bonus anyways
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GPS is the same! Both using A-GPS Chips. The NFC Software must be Disabled, Bluethooth Updated to 3.0, Nexus S has only 2.1 and Video Recording Updated to 1280x720, Nexus S had 720x480
Arkanius said:
Supercurio says the devices use different types of memory.
Might be a bit of a problem
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Thats the biggest problem, I think. SuperCurios Tweet to iNand Tweet
Leandros
This a premature thread. Once a dump or aosp is released only then can we begin to do something about it. Till then this is a discussion thread and not related to development. IMHO
What about rfs? Im sure google is not using it. We will have to work that out as well.
2.3 SDK is out so I see no problem in getting gingerbread.
Whether as a port from the NS or a homebrew I don't really care.
All I want is the integrated SIP client. Been missing this since switching from my Nokia e90 Communicator to Android 1 year ago.
I am interested how the nexus S fares against a hacked Galaxy S, don't think it will be any faster!
Mycorrhiza said:
2.3 SDK is out so I see no problem in getting gingerbread.
Whether as a port from the NS or a homebrew I don't really care.
All I want is the integrated SIP client. Been missing this since switching from my Nokia e90 Communicator to Android 1 year ago.
I am interested how the nexus S fares against a hacked Galaxy S, don't think it will be any faster!
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Everything is virtually the same.
I call up one the powers of the all powerful XDA to port the N:S for all the SGS's that are out there, so we can forget about samsung roms and use a normal google one
The Nexus S doesn't seem to support an external sd card. Likely another problem?
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The Nexus S doesn't seem to support an external sd card. Likely another problem?
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Maybe... but I can live without an external SDCARD for now...
Anyone up for being a hero and porting multirom to the Note 4 (N910F)? Now we are seeing some tremendous roms for this beast it would be awesome to run multiple OS' on this device. I'm sure it would be useful for some of the current devs working with the note 4 as reflashing all the time must become a pain when you dont have a device dedicated to development and use it personally. Tasseder the original multirom dev has written a guide for porting https://github.com/Tasssadar/multirom/wiki/Porting-MultiROM I looked at the basic requirements and am pretty sure its achievable with our device. Looking at the guide its certainly way above my capabilities but knowing the level of talent here in the note 4 forums I'm sure there plenty capable of achieving this. I would be glad to donate towards such a project and am sure others would aswell. Anyhoo below are some links for the info
Porting guide - https://github.com/Tasssadar/multirom/wiki/Porting-MultiROM
Galaxy Note 2 Port thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2/orig-development/multirom-v28-t2900858
Original nexus 7 thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
Anyone interested in giving this a go? great kudos awaits lol
"It only supports devices with storage in /data/media/. Physical SD cards are not supported because of how slow and generally awful they are, but some devices have "fake" /sdcard on separate partition, which is not supported as of yet."
I could be wrong, but that would be a problem as the note 4 uses /storage/sdcard0 as internal sd card not /data/media
Again I could be wrong
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I think it would be possible. I have a Sony Z3 and it has its storage locations at '/storage/sdcard0' for internal and '/storage/sdcard1' for SD Card.
MultiROM is working perfectly on the Z2, Z3. I really would like to see it ported to the Note 4.
Maybe Myself5 from the Z3 thread could help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58374725
With the introduction of Lollipop 5.1 dual sim now has native Android support.
Up until now different manufacturers implemented this function in their own way. I've had other dual sim (DS) phones that had different ports of CM but the DS function never worked on them. Always just one sim card!
I'm just wondering if in the future we will have CM versions that can be ported and support DS without issue, and how close is that future away?
It is possible (but unlikely) that we could see a future official Samsung firmware of 5.1 for our device that uses the now native DS support instead of their own version of it.
This would make porting a CM firmware with native DS support much easier I'd imagine.
Any thoughts people?
Keliuss
I believe its time to upgrade to Android Pie. I'm also considering rooting to get these cool xposed and magisk frameworks. But is it worth losing secure folders and other samsung speicific unctions, also making the device more vulnerable and possibly unstable over this
Any help is much appreciatated. I need to decide at once, so i can root it asap after upgrading fw version so i wont have to do the factory resets and data recoveries procedures twice
I rooted all my previous Samsung phones/tablets, but I haven't done so with my Note 8. I didn't feel the need to as the phone gives me all I want and more ... and I didn't want to lose the security features! That's my twopence worth!
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Xposed isn't worth too much draining like 20% while listening music during 1h20
I have always rooted ALL of my previous Android phones(since GingerBread) within a month of purchase. Just recently I got my Note 8, and haven't felt the need for rooting for close to 2 months now. I haven't upgraded to Pie yet because I don't want to lose my dual sim+memory card adapter function.
I have not felt the need for it with my 950U1. Granted I don't like where some elements are in pie but I see no need to fi d a root method which probably isn't available.
What do you mean. What adapter have you got that stops working with pie
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macgyver40 said:
I have not felt the need for it with my 950U1. Granted I don't like where some elements are in pie but I see no need to fi d a root method which probably isn't available.
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Are there things in Pie that are worse than previous versions
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for better battery life you should root and install custom kernel. i use phantom kernel.
It more or less depends. I rooted my Note8 recently, with the RMM fixes, and went to Lineage for a while. Some users like using custom roms (more features, less bloat, etc) or some people want to install a kernel to give the phone more life. If you do root your phone with Pie, you can get some useful Magisk modules, such as V4A, LKT and more to enhance how you use your phone day-to-day. It's all personal preference however, some people like to stay on stock without root.
edit: If you root, you lose KNOX. Permanently. You cannot use Secure Folder, S-pay, or anything like that. You can use Samsung Health however.
therock003 said:
I believe its time to upgrade to Android Pie. I'm also considering rooting to get these cool xposed and magisk frameworks. But is it worth losing secure folders and other samsung speicific unctions, also making the device more vulnerable and possibly unstable over this
Any help is much appreciatated. I need to decide at once, so i can root it asap after upgrading fw version so i wont have to do the factory resets and data recoveries procedures twice
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If there's warranty still left on phone then don't root just yet as you'll lose it.
As mentioned by others I usually root but am delaying at the moment as see no need just yet.
I do miss rooting slightly as cannot use ad blocking hosts file but no biggy for now.
Unless you are an app developer. There really is no need to root a current android device as the current versions of android are all very stable.
What model n8 do you have? I'm assuming the exynos? Cause the snapdragon I believe can only be rooted up to a certain base
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What model n8 do you have? I'm assuming the exynos? Cause the snapdragon I believe can only be rooted up to a certain base
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That is correct.
iceepyon said:
Unless you are an app developer. There really is no need to root a current android device as the current versions of android are all very stable.
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I suppose that's up for debate.
Rooting your Android can bring a lot of stuff, majorly things such as Substratum on Android 9, hostless ad blocking, and Xposed. There's a lot of apps that can expand your user experience, from the UI itself to battery life. Though the average consumer won't really take notice, if your device is older in terms of age, like battery, then rooting might be able to help you out. You can get kernels, battery saver apps, wakelock detectors and other things, some of which I use.
There's also the case of if you don't like OneUI/TouchWiz anymore. You can always go to another firmware such as LineageOS or it's counterparts like RR, Carbon, etc. (though, not available on 8895). There is a wider range to root, however if you don't really know what it is, it's best to leave it alone. If you're unsure then you can end up losing your data or your phone entirely in a brick. It's largely depending on what and how the device is.
Counting the days till the warranty is void...
I really miss Titanium Backup, Substratum (in pie), changing kernels and roms, and many things.
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nachman11 said:
Counting the days till the warranty is void...
I really miss Titanium Backup, Substratum (in pie), changing kernels and roms, and many things.
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I'm right there with ya bro, I find myself almost on a daily basis picking up my rooted g3 & tinkering with it for hours!!! I absolutely LOVE listening to music on that BadBoy, with v4a, Dolby & arise installed, PLUS my beats studios!!! OMG the sound that comes out those headphones from the g3 & the modding of the software, only possible thru rooting & installing those apps/modules is absolutely incredible!!!! I miss flashing, using kernels, tarp, magisk, ughhh |3ᵕᶦᶦᶳᶣᶨᶵ
therock003 said:
Are there things in Pie that are worse than previous versions
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Nope. It's just different. I like some of the new features so it makes up for it.
johnybravojr said:
I have always rooted ALL of my previous Android phones(since GingerBread) within a month of purchase. Just recently I got my Note 8, and haven't felt the need for rooting for close to 2 months now. I haven't upgraded to Pie yet because I don't want to lose my dual sim+memory card adapter function.
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What do you mean lose your dual som + memory card adapter function? You mean the sim card & sdcard alot at the top of the phone that you stick a pin in & the slot pops open? N what do you mean by lose that function?
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What do you mean lose your dual som + memory card adapter function? You mean the sim card & sdcard alot at the top of the phone that you stick a pin in & the slot pops open? N what do you mean by lose that function?
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He means in android 8 oreo you can have 2 sim cards and a SD card at the same time in the dual sim phone.
Normally you are only allowed 1 sim card + sd card or 2 sim cards and NO sd card.
So you can either mod the 2nd sim and sd card to fit the 2nd slot in the sim tray and oreo will work with it (meaning you can use 2 phone numbers and have access to your sd card.)
But since PIE came out, if you have 2 sim cards + sd card the system detects it and complains about it and it won't work anymore, you'll have to remove the 2nd sim or sd card.
The only method (I think of) is to root PIE and replace the service.jar file with the oreo one. (That's what I've read so don't know if it really works or not, so search for it.)
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He means in android 8 oreo you can have 2 sim cards and a SD card at the same time in the dual sim phone.
Normally you are only allowed 1 sim card + sd card or 2 sim cards and NO sd card.
So you can either mod the 2nd sim and sd card to fit the 2nd slot in the sim tray and oreo will work with it (meaning you can use 2 phone numbers and have access to your sd card.)
But since PIE came out, if you have 2 sim cards + sd card the system detects it and complains about it and it won't work anymore, you'll have to remove the 2nd sim or sd card.
The only method (I think of) is to root PIE and replace the service.jar file with the oreo one. (That's what I've read so don't know if it really works or not, so search for it.)
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Thank You 4 that.. I had googled it after seeing that, I didn't realize you can mod that tray!! So with the dual SIM you can have service on 1 sim with say Verizon (CDMA) & then on the other sim, AT&T (GSM)... That's wild & cool, I need to look into the reasons why a CDMA phone won't work with a GSM service provider & vice versa & why & what breaks this trend. But that's some cool ****, being able to mod that tray.. Wish I knew about thus dualSIM Note 8 before I got the Note 8, thank you 4 ur explanation ??
Hello. I am thinking of getting a Note 9 as my daily driver for the next several years, but I am a bit confused because of the many variants available. I want to use this thing for as long as I can, and modding is quite important to me on Android, so I want to ensure that the device variant I get will be most supported by 3rd party developers writing custom ROMs and other modifications. I am coming from a Xperia Z3, of which there are at least two main variants, and only the main single-sim variant (D6603) has had (and has) the most attention by developers, so this is where my concern is coming from.
On the forum the general line seems to be that if you want to do modding, then the Exynos devices are the way to go. I am buying from Europe so that is not an issue, but even then there are versions with 6GB or 8GB of RAM, and those come in single sim (N960F) and dual sim (N960F/DS) variants. I am reading that all variants are technically dual sim, so that probably also means that any custom software will be compatible with both variants, but I am most concerned about the difference between 6GB and 8GB devices. I am most interested in the 6GB variant, but I wonder wether one has been more supported than the other in existing custom ROMs and mods, and if there are any indications of that happening when future versions of Android will be ported over to the Note 9.
I would also like to know if the dual sim variants can mount two sim cards in addition to the MicroSD card, or if you necessarily have to swap one sim card to use the MicroSD.
Thank you
@omarelhajj97 there is no difference between the 6GB and 8GB models other than the obvious 128/512GB storage and 6/8GB RAM thing. Both versions have exactly the same firmware. If you want future proofing - get the 8GB model like I did
About your other question if you can use both sim cards and a microsd - by default no, you choose either 2 sims or 1 sim and 1 sd. But thanks to the following method you can use 2 sims + sd: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/themes/xposed-unlock-dual-sim-sd-card-t4085559
My advice would be against rooting the Note9 when you get it. It will be on the latest Android 10 OneUI 2.1 version which won't be outdated at least 2 years from now. And if you want customization try the official app GoodLock (since you're in Europe, get NiceLock or FineLock from play store and download and install GoodLock modules manually from apkmirror).
I am with @koragg97 on this one. Even if you leave your Note 9 running Pie with all the latest security updates, you have a excellent android experience. Rooting your device voids the warranty and you will loosing access to the Secure Folder and S Health
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I am with @koragg97 on this one. Even if you leave your Note 9 running Pie with all the latest security updates, you have a excellent android experience. Rooting your device voids the warranty and you will loosing access to the Secure Folder and S Health
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Secure folder and shealth can be patched though.
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Secure folder and shealth can be patched though.
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Rooting android these days are only beneficial to developers, who require Admin access to the entire directory of android. For everyday users modern releases of android right out the box is perfectly fine.
iceepyon said:
Rooting android these days are only beneficial to developers, who require Admin access to the entire directory of android. For everyday users modern releases of android right out the box is perfectly fine.
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I think rooting is still worth it. For example I need the stock call recorder which you can't get without root on EU model and any other recording apps are nothing compared to the stock one. Also I like how Dr.Ketan provides quite some optimizations for his custom rom and I've always used his roms both on N8 and N9.
There are some great reliable developers here in xda imo.
xchatter said:
I think rooting is still worth it. For example I need the stock call recorder which you can't get without root on EU model and any other recording apps are nothing compared to the stock one. Also I like how Dr.Ketan provides quite some optimizations for his custom rom and I've always used his roms both on N8 and N9.
There are some great reliable developers here in xda imo.
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The first reason I root my phone within 2 weeks after I bought it was to get rid of ugly stock look. Just looking at the status bar is enough to make my eyes sore. Samsung never change it, just with android 9 they allow us to move the clock to the right, but that's all about it.
At the end everyone on each own. We have different views when we see things. Just because I think something is ugly doesn't means it is for others.