Hey guys, I suppose some of you have had a xiaomi in the past and I have two questions for you and maybe someone that has some knowledge about xiaomi.
1) Currently how's Xiomi dealing with privacy? I remember 1 or 2 years ago Xiaomi has hit with strong reports of leaking information to their government (chinese) and everything we did on the phone would be seeded to their servers, even SMS's and other stuff..
2) How's the ROM support usually for Xiaomi? Do they usually get a stock based ROM, which has no bloatware and some nice tweaks?
Thanks everyone!
Afaik, being a mi3 user, they had a "data sharing" option on by default in miui which is now changed to be off. Personally i never considered it much as there were already devs who had made custom rom for the device, i think over the last two years i might only have used miui for about 4 to 8 months.
No bloatware, but if u r not a previous user, u might find some apps useless (it has its own clean master replacement app). So yeah, there are a lot of options for tweaks n stuff by default too. Hopefully this answers your questions. (and add a question mark to the title, it looks like u r going to rant about Xiaomi by reading the title, lol)
arnabbiswasalsodeep said:
Afaik, being a mi3 user, they had a "data sharing" option on by default in miui which is now changed to be off. Personally i never considered it much as there were already devs who had made custom rom for the device, i think over the last two years i might only have used miui for about 4 to 8 months.
No bloatware, but if u r not a previous user, u might find some apps useless (it has its own clean master replacement app). So yeah, there are a lot of options for tweaks n stuff by default too. Hopefully this answers your questions. (and add a question mark to the title, it looks like u r going to rant about Xiaomi by reading the title, lol)
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Do you think there will be much custom rom/kernel support for the Mi 5 (or does this depend on Xiaomi allowing for an unlocked bootloader together with release of kernel sources) ?
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Do you think there will be much custom rom/kernel support for the Mi 5 (or does this depend on Xiaomi allowing for an unlocked bootloader together with release of kernel sources) ?
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There will sure be support for custom roms even when the kernel source isn't there, my device had custom roms even before kernel source was released, although there were a bit bugs due to it and only a few (like 5 to 10) custom roms were there, bit with the release of sources, it jumped to 50+. And my device had the bootloader unlocked by default, which even i didn't knew until i rebooted to it. Although the fastboot wasn't able to get the info about the bootloader (like version, etc). IDK if any new devices require to unlock it but i don't think it should be hard as they support it, so that won't be a barrier for development.
TL;DR- less n buggy roms w/o kernel source, floods of roms and custom kernels after source, nothing to concern about bootloader.
There maybe some rom development from a few people that get the device and maybe from cm. But that's about it. Non of the big name team roms will have official versions, just maybe ports.
As for the security and privacy. That is up in the air as it seems even on custom roms they some how have managed to still keep track of the devices. One person on the MI note found that even while not on miui for months that they still had a current backup of all his apps and info.
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There maybe some rom development from a few people that get the device and maybe from cm. But that's about it. Non of the big name team roms will have official versions, just maybe ports.
As for the security and privacy. That is up in the air as it seems even on custom roms they some how have managed to still keep track of the devices. One person on the MI note found that even while not on miui for months that they still had a current backup of all his apps and info.
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With regards to porting an official rom, I suppose these would be regarded as Unofficial versions. If that is the case is there any real disadvantage in having the "Port" as opposed to have the "Official" version ?
Ports normally will have some bugs as this happens due to not having some things for device built into the code.
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Yes I also heard that even with a custom ROM on the device they still found a way to make the device connected and synching information with their servers, which I don't find that funny..
I wanted to know if this data leak is still present in the previous flagship, anyone tested it recently?
It's good to know that it has nearly no bloatware from what you are saying me, but if it has something I don't find useful I may just freeze the app.
Also does anyone know if Xiaomi usually takes long times to update the software of their devices (I heard that they were an exception in relation to other Chinese manufacturers) and release the kernel sources for the ROM developing community or are they pretty good on this area?
Thanks!
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No they are terrible about it. Normally when they post the kernel source it is incomplete and broken.
As for updating. Until very recently they based their os on 4.4 and when asked why they said they didn't care about official android versions.
As for bloat that depends on how you look at it. Miui is about as bloated as TW or HTC Sense.
@zelendel In terms of big name team roms having official versions, would kindly give a few examples ?
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@zelendel In terms of big name team roms having official versions, would kindly give a few examples ?
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The biggest are the one or two devices (cant remember their names off the top of my head) that were able to get/fix the kernel source and device trees which CM picked up. So some of the teams that use CM source as a base like AICP also picked up Official versions for the devices.
Then you have the Roms that are based on AOSP instead of CM. As they dont use CM as a base ( Maybe some parts) These roms like Slim or Dirty Unicorns seldom see official versions of the rom. Normally you might get a port here and there. It all depends on if the one of the devs gets the device as most teams don't offer official support for devices they do not own.
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Hi guys, I've come to the conclusion no one can answer my previous thread, so I'm starting a new one, asking a different question.
Can our phones just run stock Android? I mean, does Android support all our drivers? If it does, I may be tempted to just use that instead.
thanks.
YES .... BUT!
The answer is yes, BUT, I suggest you start reading about what Android actually is and the workings of this OS.
Then you will discover the possibilities yourself and within no time have the phone just the way you like it
If you would have read the forum you would have already had an answer to your own question.
Think before you act my friend.
There are AOSP and AOSP based roms for our device, whatever you want. You will find out what this means!
On this forum some useful threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232085
When I google for "What is Android custom rom AOSP" I get these links for you to start of with, do not forget, google is your friend in your search for answers
http://highonandroid.com/android-roms/what-is-aosp/
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...ifference-between-an-aosp-rom-and-a-stock-rom
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/
Thanks Robin>Hood!
I neglected to mention that my phone is actually a customized China-only Xperia SP running on China Mobile's proprietary 4G network. It is called the Xperia SP M35t, and with the exception of more ROM (16 vs. 8)? and I'm assuming a chip that allows it to run to the LTE variant network.
Obviously I'm hoping that it would have no bearing on this conversation, and an AOSP ROM would be able to have all required drivers to run my phone properly. That I guess is the crux of my question.
I believe the Chinese Xperia SP is unique, You can't run other Android version besides the stock one.
Thanks cachanilla86! I guess I'll have to wait till a ROM comes out. Thanks!
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Thanks cachanilla86! I guess I'll have to wait till a ROM comes out. Thanks!
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It depends what you mean by stock Android. You can't just download AOSP, compile it and flash it.
You CAN download Android source code from CodeAurora, compile that with a few minor tweaks and it will work (see my recaf project). I think it even has support for the Chinese LTE variant (I read something about it in code comments) but I didn't look at it as it didn't interest me, I obviously have no way to test it.
Thanks adfad666. I don't think I'm quite ready for any programming, minor tweak or otherwise. I'll just wait for someone to create a ROM for the Chinese Xperia.
IS there any good roms for this phone seriously ?
every rom i try has alot of bugs and problems and devs release updates every 6 months and most of them drop the development for the phone anyway
i cant find a single rom that combines performance with battery without sacrificing the LED notification abilities !!!
I've seen comments saying "the best rom" in every rom OP
If 'you' don't like it, it's your view. But don't ask for the best rom as its a violation of xda rules. I hope you get my point and I'm not being rude.
There are many great roms out there, try them for a week or so and then see what's good and what's not, help the dev by reviewing it honestly(not being biased like 'this rom is nothing like xyz rom') this way the dev will help you get a better rom.
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IS there any good roms for this phone seriously ?
every rom i try has alot of bugs and problems and devs release updates every 6 months and most of them drop the development for the phone anyway
i cant find a single rom that combines performance with battery without sacrificing the LED notification abilities !!!
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First off - respect others work. Everyone puts a lot of effort in the ROMs.
1. The ROMs for SP are nearly bugless, only stock based ROMs have stock Sony bugs.
2. Of course - updates are released every 6 months - how is that possible if PA, AOKP, PAC, FXP CM are weekly-built, and we also have daily-built CM nightlies. Also who dropped support for a ROM? Last time it happened for OmniROM. After that no one dropped ROM support.
3. All ROMs for SP are nearly on par when it comes to battery and performance.
4. You can get the illumination bar features with Illumination Reciever + Illumination Bar Notification apps
5. Why do you put these exclamation marks in your sentences?
try PA or PAC, smooth,fast , great battery life and stable
2 words: thread reported
please respect the work of others and be patient
Also according to the XDA Rules asking for "What is the best ROM" is not allowed here
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hahahahaha you people are being aggressive and rude and i didnt say the "Best" anywhere i said a good rom
and no there are no good roms and i have used every single rom in the development thread and i know every developer and because i respect them i didnt mention their names but i know everyone who doesnt release a single update and leaves the rom to rot or just drops the whole development
everyone is just sensetive when it comes to respecting developers
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First off - respect others work. Everyone puts a lot of effort in the ROMs.
1. The ROMs for SP are nearly bugless, only stock based ROMs have stock Sony bugs.
2. Of course - updates are released every 6 months - how is that possible if PA, AOKP, PAC, FXP CM are weekly-built, and we also have daily-built CM nightlies. Also who dropped support for a ROM? Last time it happened for OmniROM. After that no one dropped ROM support.
3. All ROMs for SP are nearly on par when it comes to battery and performance.
4. You can get the illumination bar features with Illumination Reciever + Illumination Bar Notification apps
5. Why do you put these exclamation marks in your sentences?
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5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
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5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
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eXistenZ is the best stock based rom atm,AT LEAST IN MY OPINION,others may find other roms better.it has NO BUGS,it has speed enchantment,and when you turn Stamina mode On,you will have a hard time draining the battery
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5. because i can and its not against any rules !!!!!
4. Most of the applications doesnt work when you are on AOSP or CM they only work on stock
3. there are roms that are just slow like stocks and roms that eat battery like miui and aosp and cm
2. I Dont see any updates from any of these
1. Stock roms are the only thing we can call decent other than that its just an FC Festive
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4. Okay, I can agree, but it's proprietary Sony technology so it can't really be used in CM without weird tricks.
3.Stock is pretty fast starting from .205 update. Eat battery? It depends on that how you flash the ROM, I can easily get 3-4+ hours screen on time.
2. I won't even comment about that, your ignorance totally killed me.
1.FC Festive? Custom ROMs based on AOSP are way stabler than stock ROMs.
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4. Okay, I can agree, but it's proprietary Sony technology so it can't really be used in CM without weird tricks.
3.Stock is pretty fast starting from .205 update. Eat battery? It depends on that how you flash the ROM, I can easily get 3-4+ hours screen on time.
2. I won't even comment about that, your ignorance totally killed me.
1.FC Festive? Custom ROMs based on AOSP are way stabler than stock ROMs.
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then you didnt tried them the only stable custom rom is AOSP by vanir and it lacks the notification bar controll and the features
and please amuse me and tell me what is the right way to flash a rom other than flashing the kernel , wiping data and cache and dalvik, flashing the rom then reboot ?
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eXistenZ is the best stock based rom atm,AT LEAST IN MY OPINION,others may find other roms better.it has NO BUGS,it has speed enchantment,and when you turn Stamina mode On,you will have a hard time draining the battery
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existenZ is slow compared to every single rom out there and as i said we didnt get an upate in 3 months or more
i bet that ill find a developer who will comment right now saying that he does this for free and he has a life and he is busy and we should be gratefull
if you are busy and you are doing this for free then why you started it from the beginning ?
just drop the project and delete your thread instead of making us FC everyday and sink in bugs
@aliiahmed.20
I tried AOKP, PAC, PA, CM10.2, CM11, Stock odexed and deodexed, and also ExistenZ from the first version(based on 4.1.2). So yeah, I didn't try them.
Well, looking at your posts I thought you were dirty flashing from stock to CM11 and other ROMs, because with your issues it's impossible that you clean flashed everything.
And about the developers and their work - they can't do that, why? Because people like you will complain about no updates, bugs and no support...
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I tried AOKP, PAC, PA, CM10.2, CM11, Stock odexed and deodexed, and also ExistenZ from the first version(based on 4.1.2). So yeah, I didn't try them.
Well, looking at your posts I thought you were dirty flashing from stock to CM11 and other ROMs, because with your issues it's impossible that you clean flashed everything.
And about the developers and their work - they can't do that, why? Because people like you will complain about no updates, bugs and no support...
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Then please amuse me with how i do a clean flash like you ?
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Then please amuse me with how i do a clean flash like you ?
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Well, you wrote the correct steps earlier, but you didn't include formatting /system, so in the flashing process some files were left intact thanks by updater-script backuptool.
Anyway, it's not just about the correct or incorrect way. It just seems like a user mistake for me...
Let's end this discussion now, I don't want to fight with anyone about why custom ROMs on their phones perform worse than for happy majority.
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Well, you wrote the correct steps earlier, but you didn't include formatting /system, so in the flashing process some files were left intact thanks by updater-script backuptool.
Anyway, it's not just about the correct or incorrect way. It just seems like a user mistake for me...
Let's end this discussion now, I don't want to fight with anyone about why custom ROMs on their phones perform worse than for happy majority.
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I do format the system and i do wipe battery stats i dont think you would add anything to my knowledge
and happy majority yeah right
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I do format the system and i do wipe battery stats i dont think you would add anything to my knowledge
and happy majority yeah right
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Wiping battery stats is completely useless step.
Yes, happy majority on(for example) CM/PA/PAC that enjoys the smoothness, stability and battery life of these ROMs(ofc you will argue about that these ROMs have no updates, no support, ppor battery life and performance, but as I said, the discussion about that is ended).
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existenZ is slow compared to every single rom out there and as i said we didnt get an upate in 3 months or more
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I dont even know why we are wasting our time on you...Pls buy another phone,leave us alone.However, I doubt that even the note 3 will be good for you,as you are lost in space and time.eXistenz was updated 1/7/2014,that was 1 month and almost 2 weeks ago,not 3 months.The reason it wasnt updated is that there is no reason for it to be updated at the moment.The illusion that you put yourself in is false and broken,as only ROMs which arent complete need updates every day,or if they added new features.All stock based roms give you the latest SONY UI,and if you dont like them,SONY isnt the right company for you.None of us notice lag on it,or on any custom rom.I dont know what your complex brain expects from a phone this good.If you arent satisfied,try unlocking the bootloader,and installing FXPCM11,that rom is blazing fast,but the bootloader unlock is the price for it.I am honestly using NexusCM11,and it is fast and smooth as butter.try following install instructions completely,and the ROMs wont lag.You cant just pop a thread,with a goal of insulting people who do much more for their property than you.If you think they all suck,you can make one yourself,so we can admire your ambitions.But the bigger chance is simply that you can not be satisfied,even if someone gave you a xperia z2/galaxy s5/note 3 or the lg g3.You would always complain.But I have an idea!
Care only for performance?
Buy a Nokia phone from the previous century,those things dont lag,and can be used as weapons to smack someones head off.
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I dont even know why we are wasting our time on you...Pls buy another phone,leave us alone.However, I doubt that even the note 3 will be good for you,as you are lost in space and time.eXistenz was updated 1/7/2014,that was 1 month and almost 2 weeks ago,not 3 months.The reason it wasnt updated is that there is no reason for it to be updated at the moment.The illusion that you put yourself in is false and broken,as only ROMs which arent complete need updates every day,or if they added new features.All stock based roms give you the latest SONY UI,and if you dont like them,SONY isnt the right company for you.None of us notice lag on it,or on any custom rom.I dont know what your complex brain expects from a phone this good.If you arent satisfied,try unlocking the bootloader,and installing FXPCM11,that rom is blazing fast,but the bootloader unlock is the price for it.I am honestly using NexusCM11,and it is fast and smooth as butter.try following install instructions completely,and the ROMs wont lag.You cant just pop a thread,with a goal of insulting people who do much more for their property than you.If you think they all suck,you can make one yourself,so we can admire your ambitions.But the bigger chance is simply that you can not be satisfied,even if someone gave you a xperia z2/galaxy s5/note 3 or the lg g3.You would always complain.But I have an idea!
Care only for performance?
Buy a Nokia phone from the previous century,those things dont lag,and can be used as weapons to smack someones head off.
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well you gave me a hint who i should be using this nokia on
and if you are just gonna tell me get another phone then please delete this comment and delete yourself
I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION AND NO ONE ANSWERED BECAUSE GUESS WHAT !
NO ONE CAN
all you can do is just attack me which is totally okay with me but untill you give ma link of a thread of a good rom you conversation is invaild
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Hi to all you amazing Custom ROM chefs.
I'm sure loads of us are waiting for the roll out of M7-based Android 5.0 ROMs, especially as we know the GPE version is imminent, but maybe like me they don't understand the full process. So would someone kindly let me know the following, and by posting it here I'm sure many other people will be able to understand.
Once the GPE image is released, how long do you expect it to take before the image is edited to run on non-GPE phones? And who actually does this? Do all you devs wait for the CM12 nightlies to be released and then base your own ROMs on that? Or is the port very easy once HTC release the GPE ROM, which allows you to build your ROMs from scratch? I read enough on xda to understand that there are some 'big' players out there, like ARHD, Paranoid Android, SlimRom, ASAP, etc. Do other devs wait for these and then do their own mods? And (potential 'grey area') where do the images actually come from? Do HTC happily give their images to the main devs, knowing that there's a whole User Base who will stick with their HTC handsets if they can customise them with 'unofficial' ROMs? After all, if we stick with our M7s and M8s, then we're not buying Samsung or Nexus and the market share tilts ever-so-slightly in favour of HTC.
I hope someone will take the time to explain the Custom ROM process, and I also hope this will stop other users from posting "when, when, when?" threads (irony appreciated).
Thanks in advance,
miles_muso
Since anyone hasn't answered this yet, I'll throw in what I know...
There are three types of ROMs: Google Play Edition, Sense, and AOSP.
GPE roms are stock, Nexus-like roms that have underlying frameworks similar to that of Sense (which I'll get into in a sec) however they are aesthetically virtually the same as the Nexus devices. They receive updates much quicker than their Sense counterparts due to HTC not having as big a role in modifying the interface, etc. They also have apps that are very similar (if not the same) as AOSP apps. SinlessRom GPE and Android Revolution (GPE) are examples of this.
Sense roms are HTC roms. HTC takes the updates Google releases and then proceeds to change it drastically, both under-the-hood and aesthetically. Their interfaces are heavily modified and they often have different apps from AOSP and GPE. These take the longest to release new versions of Android for. Android Revolution HD (Sense) is an example of this.
AOSP comes straight from Google. ROMs such as CyanogenMod are a modified AOSP. AOSP Lollipop is already available to build and it has been built for our M7. AOSP roms are (nearly always) aftermarket roms and can work on all S-On m7 devices. ParanoidAndroid and CyanogenMod are examples of this.
If a user has a phone that ships with HTC Sense, they will typically have to achieve S-Off before flashing a GPE rom. I'm not sure if the same is true for the vice versa, however I can imagine it is.
Now, to answer your question, you can build roms from scratch already (and there are some that have been released). You can't build Sense or GPE from source and you must modify official versions, leaks, or ports. You can build AOSP from source, and since we have somewhat-proper kernel source for Lollipop, it's not as difficult as it is for less-popular devices that don't have that source.
I personally feel like the release of GPE will be most helpful for AOSP in the aspect of kernel sources (as it will be the first OFFICIAL and hopefully BUG-FREE Lollipop for the m7 devices).
I'll add to this post if I can think of anything else.
Hi nuuits,
Thanks for your reply, this is EXACTLY the kind of info I wanted here. Hopefully this will help a lot of people understand the Custom ROM development phases. And, may I ask, when do YOU think we'll start seeing the first batch of ROMs based on Android 5 (apart from CM12, which, as you state, is currently available)?
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Hi nuuits,
Thanks for your reply, this is EXACTLY the kind of info I wanted here. Hopefully this will help a lot of people understand the Custom ROM development phases. And, may I ask, when do YOU think we'll start seeing the first batch of ROMs based on Android 5 (apart from CM12, which, as you state, is currently available)?
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Apart from AOSP, you can expect GPE and Sense ROMs when they're either leaked, ported, or released officially.
Leaks are "early builds" (not always intended for the general public's use) that are, well, leaked to sites such as XDA. Ports occur when you take a ROM for one phone (let's say the M8 ) and port it over to ours. Official releases are just that- ROMs pushed by HTC and/or Google.
You can expect custom GPE ROMs when one of the above occurs. I'm putting my finger on "official release", which is projected for the coming week(s), however I can never really know!!
Sense ROMs will come much later than GPE (but still within HTC's 90 day limit- if they keep their end of the bargain). There's an even toss between the above three methods imo- as the m8 will get the Sense update before the m7, we might see a port. Leaks are somewhat likely and the official release will come when it comes (which is hopefully before and probably around the 90 day mark- so January at latest).
After the initial stock ROMs are leaked, ported, or released, there are bound to be updates to your favourite custom ROMs, but of course that depends on the developer in question.
Good Afternoon, people.
I am brazilian and I have a smartphone that did not get into US and European market. It's name is "Motorola D3" and the number associate to it is "XT920".
Motorola Brazil were suposed to provide de newest rom for this device (marketing promissess). It took they almost 1 year to launch the Android Kitkat version 4.4.2.
The problem is: We want the Cyanogenmod in our device and all the newest ROM's.
That been said, I start to study to try yo port or Build a AOSP ROM to XT920 and, therefore, a CM11.
No threads on "how to port / build" a rom for a New device went trhough this problem. This device runs as a Mediatek MTK6577. I've seen that the kernel for this processor was released, but I don't know how to handle the kernel with the device and ROM properly.
Another doubt is: what is the difference between port and build a ROM? I've seen videos of porting and building and it is not clear to me.
I have reached the point where I have to download the drivers, but, in the tutorial the person was dealing with a NEXUS, wich is much easier to build, since it have a native android support.
Anyway, I want to keep this project going, and I really need some help with this questions.
Thankyou
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This device runs as a Mediatek MTK6577.
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You're screwed. MTK devices are extremely nightmarish to work with. Their kernel source is a mess and the platform source is an even bigger mess.
Even people who have had access to a complete OEM source code tree for an MT6589 device didn't succeed in getting the hacks to play nice with an AOSP source tree.
Android One has helped somewhat with devices that are released as part of the One program, but non-One MTK devices are still a nightmare.
The process of doing an AOSP bringup for a new device isn't particularly well defined because it is different for every device in existence. The only way to learn is by doing.
It helps a lot if a device with a similar chipset to yours is supported by whatever project you're trying to work with - for example most mid-to-high-end Qualcomm chipsets are not very difficult to work with. But MTK devices were nearly impossible to support with AOSP-derivative projects prior to One, and even after One, it seems like only Android One devices are "clean" enough to leverage Google's improvements to MTK support.
:/ should I waste more time or just drop it?
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What should I do? I just quit without trying? I understand that this is a huge problem. But, if I decide to take the chalenge, is there a chance to succeed?
I am trying to figure this out and I didn't found an answer to this question: can I use the kernel that is packed with my stock ROM (provided by motorola) to build or port a CM11 ROM?
Sorry to bother, but I is really keeping me up at night
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Cassio Rodrigo
Hello everyone,
I have been seduced by the Mi5 and got one. Even I work in IT, I have never flashed a phone and actually didn't plan to do it when I bought the Mi5. I read that the original Chinese ROM had English in it.
So I was happy to just use this ROM in English and that's it (I'm not picky in term of UI).
But I had several bad surprised when I received it:
- many things are still in Chinese
- several applications, even if they are in English, present/search Chinese results (actually I should have thought about it earlier)
- I installed Google Play but some services keep on failing and several apps won't install or update
As a result, I'm finding myself having to flash the phone with a custom ROM in order to get something correct.
As explained in the title I would like to have some advises on which ROMs would be the easiest and most stable to have? I'm not looking the for most fancy or classy ROM. I just want something that would be stable, run smoothly GApps and popular apps (Facebook, WhatsApp, etc...) and works with the most vital/used features of the phone (Wifi, Bluetooth, finger-print, camera, etc...). I have seen threads about several ROMs (Cyanogen, Xiaomi.eu, Resurrection Remix, Official Global Multi, etc...) but don't know which one would suit me best.
Finally, I have done my homework before posting this message, and read how to flash a ROM (especially on the xda-university). Here are the general required steps I have noted:
Enter in USB debug mode
Install a custom recovery app? (I've seen you can flash them too?)
Download you customer ROM into the SDcard
Use the custom recovery to backup your phone (I actually don't need to backup since my phone is empty)
Install the rom by selecting the zip in the root of the SDcard
That said I have seen several other methods and terms on various threads talking about specific stages or the process.
People are "rooting" the phone. Is that necessary for what I want to do? I guess so.
People are are using "flashboot". I read it's another way to flash? What is best for the Mi5?
Please don't hesitate to redirect me to some guides/tutorials if there some fundamentals I have missed.
Thanks! :good:
U also need to look into unlocking the bootloader.
U need to to google ur ****
flyturbo said:
U need to to google ur ****
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Prob uncalled for. He's just looking for info
Hi,
I would recommend xiaomi.eu's rom : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-6-30.32496/
It's fully translated, stable, includes the Google apps. I've tested a lot of roms, first on a Mi4c then on my Mi5.
If you're going for a MIUI rom (and not a CyanogenMod based one), this is the best in my opinion.
The roms comes in 2 versions : the stable (no root and updated every month or so) and the weekly one (with root and updated every week).
Installation is super easy, you just need to unlock the bootloader of your Mi5 first : http://en.miui.com/unlock/
be0ne said:
Hi,
I would recommend xiaomi.eu's rom : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-6-30.32496/
It's fully translated, stable, includes the Google apps. I've tested a lot of roms, first on a Mi4c then on my Mi5.
If you're going for a MIUI rom (and not a CyanogenMod based one), this is the best in my opinion.
The roms comes in 2 versions : the stable (no root and updated every month or so) and the weekly one (with root and updated every week).
Installation is super easy, you just need to unlock the bootloader of your Mi5 first : http://en.miui.com/unlock/
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Thanks for these helpful comments!
So would you say that Xiaomi.eu ROM is more stable than the CyanogenMod ROM? And it's more stable than the official MIUI Global ROM?
In terms of things not working at all, have Xiaomi.eu and CyanogenMod ROMs everything supported/working? That's what I worried about. I would be happy to flash a custom ROM but I would like to make sure it has most of the phone features working correctly (finger-print, bluetooth, wifi, GPS, camera, etc...).
Foobrother said:
Thanks for these helpful comments!
So would you say that Xiaomi.eu ROM is more stable than the CyanogenMod ROM? And it's more stable than the official MIUI Global ROM?
In terms of things not working at all, have Xiaomi.eu and CyanogenMod ROMs everything supported/working? That's what I worried about. I would be happy to flash a custom ROM but I would like to make sure it has most of the phone features working correctly (finger-print, bluetooth, wifi, GPS, camera, etc...).
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CynaogenMod is, indeed, a bit less stable because it's a port and the kernel sources haven't been published yet by xiaomi so no optimisation on this side.
But CM is the way to go if you prefer android stock over MIUI's implementation.
Xiaomi.eu's rom are as stable as official ones but richer in features and optimized (see the list on the rom download page) and with much less bloatware. They remove a lot of Chinese specific apps from and make their rom Google apps compatible out of the box.
And yes, everything works correctly, especially if you install the stable version (the weekly is more prone to bugs because it's updated all the time).
At the end of the day, I would say it's the EU/US version of MIUI. If tomorrow Xiaomi want to sell their products in the western part of the world, this is probably the kind of rom they will put on their devices.
be0ne said:
CynaogenMod is, indeed, a bit less stable because it's a port and the kernel sources haven't been published yet by xiaomi so no optimisation on this side.
But CM is the way to go if you prefer android stock over MIUI's implementation.
Xiaomi.eu's rom are as stable as official ones but richer in features and optimized (see the list on the rom download page) and with much less bloatware. They remove a lot of Chinese specific apps from and make their rom Google apps compatible out of the box.
And yes, everything works correctly, especially if you install the stable version (the weekly is more prone to bugs because it's updated all the time).
At the end of the day, I would say it's the EU/US version of MIUI. If tomorrow Xiaomi want to sell their products in the western part of the world, this is probably the kind of rom they will put on their devices.
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Thanks a lot for these advises. It sounds like Xiaomi.eu is what I'm looking for!
I'm glad if I could help. Let us know if this rom fits you
I too would recommend the xiaomi eu Rom. The cm one works well but if you want to use android pay it has to be the xiaomi one.
Foobrother said:
Hello everyone,
I have been seduced by the Mi5 and got one. Even I work in IT, I have never flashed a phone and actually didn't plan to do it when I bought the Mi5. I read that the original Chinese ROM had English in it.
So I was happy to just use this ROM in English and that's it (I'm not picky in term of UI).
But I had several bad surprised when I received it:
- many things are still in Chinese
- several applications, even if they are in English, present/search Chinese results (actually I should have thought about it earlier)
- I installed Google Play but some services keep on failing and several apps won't install or update
As a result, I'm finding myself having to flash the phone with a custom ROM in order to get something correct.
As explained in the title I would like to have some advises on which ROMs would be the easiest and most stable to have? I'm not looking the for most fancy or classy ROM. I just want something that would be stable, run smoothly GApps and popular apps (Facebook, WhatsApp, etc...) and works with the most vital/used features of the phone (Wifi, Bluetooth, finger-print, camera, etc...). I have seen threads about several ROMs (Cyanogen, Xiaomi.eu, Resurrection Remix, Official Global Multi, etc...) but don't know which one would suit me best.
Finally, I have done my homework before posting this message, and read how to flash a ROM (especially on the xda-university). Here are the general required steps I have noted:
Enter in USB debug mode
Install a custom recovery app? (I've seen you can flash them too?)
Download you customer ROM into the SDcard
Use the custom recovery to backup your phone (I actually don't need to backup since my phone is empty)
Install the rom by selecting the zip in the root of the SDcard
That said I have seen several other methods and terms on various threads talking about specific stages or the process.
People are "rooting" the phone. Is that necessary for what I want to do? I guess so.
People are are using "flashboot". I read it's another way to flash? What is best for the Mi5?
Please don't hesitate to redirect me to some guides/tutorials if there some fundamentals I have missed.
Thanks! :good:
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fracman said:
Prob uncalled for. He's just looking for info
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Excellent info you posted !!!! :highfive:
be0ne said:
Hi,
I would recommend xiaomi.eu's rom : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-6-30.32496/
It's fully translated, stable, includes the Google apps. I've tested a lot of roms, first on a Mi4c then on my Mi5.
If you're going for a MIUI rom (and not a CyanogenMod based one), this is the best in my opinion.
The roms comes in 2 versions : the stable (no root and updated every month or so) and the weekly one (with root and updated every week).
Installation is super easy, you just need to unlock the bootloader of your Mi5 first : http://en.miui.com/unlock/
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Thanks for this info - i have only tried the global roms and to be honest - they bug me !
CM - as awesome as it is...still has its little bugs and annoyances.
Hopefully this is the way forward !