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[Q] Is Bluetooth AVRCP 1.3 Working?

I am just wondering if anyone has had success getting Bluetooth Track metadata to be listed when syncing to bluetooth devices such as ones found in our cars. I have a Ford Focus and when I send media to the Ford Sync system using things like Pandora or BeyondPod, the only information listed is "Unknown" under the bluetooth category.
I know that this in particular was an Android issue and was not support through Android until 4.3 Jelly Bean. My previous phone was a Galaxy S3 rooted with Tasks latest rom running Android 4.3 and that device works properly. It syncs immediately with the car stereo and track listings are displayed properly as well as incoming text messages display on the screen.
This is not the case with my brand new Galaxy Note 3. I assumed that since it was running Android 4.3 and supported the newer bluetooth standards that it would perform similarly. That might have been my first mistake...assuming....but is anyone else having similar issues? Can someone point me in a direction that I might be doing something wrong? Im really hoping its just a setting I am missing and not something that Samsung decided to leave out or forgot about.
Thanks in advance.

Vgamer4550 said:
I am just wondering if anyone has had success getting Bluetooth Track metadata to be listed when syncing to bluetooth devices such as ones found in our cars. I have a Ford Focus and when I send media to the Ford Sync system using things like Pandora or BeyondPod, the only information listed is "Unknown" under the bluetooth category.
I know that this in particular was an Android issue and was not support through Android until 4.3 Jelly Bean. My previous phone was a Galaxy S3 rooted with Tasks latest rom running Android 4.3 and that device works properly. It syncs immediately with the car stereo and track listings are displayed properly as well as incoming text messages display on the screen.
This is not the case with my brand new Galaxy Note 3. I assumed that since it was running Android 4.3 and supported the newer bluetooth standards that it would perform similarly. That might have been my first mistake...assuming....but is anyone else having similar issues? Can someone point me in a direction that I might be doing something wrong? Im really hoping its just a setting I am missing and not something that Samsung decided to leave out or forgot about.
Thanks in advance.
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It works on Note 3, in fact it works on all 4.3's now, I've had this issue on Nexus 4 and the last few new updates it started working.
You can see the name of song and artist and so on...

odeccacccp said:
It works on Note 3, in fact it works on all 4.3's now, I've had this issue on Nexus 4 and the last few new updates it started working.
You can see the name of song and artist and so on...
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Thanks for the reply. I have had it working on a couple of 4.3 devices now, including my own Galaxy S3 running 4.3 and on all of those devices I really did not have to do anything besides sync the Phone with the device and send a Pandora track to it. Did you confirm it is working on the Note 3 in particular, and if so, did you have to turn any settings on or do anything special to get it to send the data?
As of right now, the song is played by the bluetooth device but no track information is displayed. This is also supposed to work for text messages, however I dont see that information displayed either. I want to confirm it is working on these Note 3 so I can try and narrow down a software or hardware issue.

Doesn't work on my Note, syncd with a Kenwood DDX429.
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Vgamer4550 said:
Thanks for the reply. I have had it working on a couple of 4.3 devices now, including my own Galaxy S3 running 4.3 and on all of those devices I really did not have to do anything besides sync the Phone with the device and send a Pandora track to it. Did you confirm it is working on the Note 3 in particular, and if so, did you have to turn any settings on or do anything special to get it to send the data?
As of right now, the song is played by the bluetooth device but no track information is displayed. This is also supposed to work for text messages, however I dont see that information displayed either. I want to confirm it is working on these Note 3 so I can try and narrow down a software or hardware issue.
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Maybe S3 did not the lates updates.
Nexus 4 is like the lates you can get them, and NOTE 3 just came out so should have latest.
I can confirm BT work amazing with all the proper displaying, SMS, pictures in phonebook and so on on my NOTE 3 N900W8 and my Ford SYNC, touch, latest firmware.
I did not have to do anything special, just paired and done.
Voice clarity and sound volume are amazing.
One problem BT creats a wakelocck "bluetooth_timer" trying to figure it out why.

Thanks for that.. So we have a Note 3 that works and one that doesn't. My Note 3 is an N900A on ATT..... I wonder if there is a carrier software issue at play here?
Can anyone else on different carriers confirm or deny the functionality of this feature?
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My n900a works great on my Kenwood ddx480
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I get some bluetooth crashes when I try to use apps with bluetooth metadata, such as the Spotify app that I modified to have bluetooth metadata... It works on every device I have except the Note 3... I get an error that says Bluetooth share has crashed every so often when I try...

hotbyz168 said:
My n900a works great on my Kenwood ddx480
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After a bit more testing, it looks like my text messages on my N900A actually do work with the car bluetooth unit. Which makes things a bit more odd since I know that before I got 4.3 on my S3, I was not able to receive any information on the display. Once I upgraded to 4.3 then everything just started working.
Since your N900A seems to work properly it makes me wonder if something is wrong with this particular phone. I'll have to test with a friends Note 3 and see what happens.
What apps were you using that worked properly? Did you do anything special (i.e. settings, app settings, etc) or like previously mentioned, did you just sync the phone and everything started working?

Vgamer4550 said:
Thanks for that.. So we have a Note 3 that works and one that doesn't. My Note 3 is an N900A on ATT..... I wonder if there is a carrier software issue at play here?
Can anyone else on different carriers confirm or deny the functionality of this feature?
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Try looking if there is a new soft for the car.
Also I've checked the "bluetooth_timer" wakelock problem, and if you press "cancel" when phone asks you to allow messages, and you don't check markalways allow for the phone book, the wakelock is not a problem. Also don;t set phonebook to auto download if you have the option, just do one time download.

odeccacccp said:
Try looking if there is a new soft for the car.
Also I've checked the "bluetooth_timer" wakelock problem, and if you press "cancel" when phone asks you to allow messages, and you don't check markalways allow for the phone book, the wakelock is not a problem. Also don;t set phonebook to auto download if you have the option, just do one time download.
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Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I just upgraded the car software to the latest release as of last month. I also ruled that out because the S3 is working just fine. Where before it was on Android 4.3 I would not see any info on the screen.
At this point I might be leaning towards a defective phone, due to text messages appearing on the screen but no metadata, but I will try some more testing. I have access to a second Note 3 that I will try to sync up and see what happens.
I am hoping I get some more feed back before I resort to replacing the unit. We shall see.

Vgamer4550 said:
Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I just upgraded the car software to the latest release as of last month. I also ruled that out because the S3 is working just fine. Where before it was on Android 4.3 I would not see any info on the screen.
At this point I might be leaning towards a defective phone, due to text messages appearing on the screen but no metadata, but I will try some more testing. I have access to a second Note 3 that I will try to sync up and see what happens.
I am hoping I get some more feed back before I resort to replacing the unit. We shall see.
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that sucks, but I highly doubte it's the phone defect, it's just software of the car or phone. Best bet is to wait for CM ROM for this phone CM worked always best for me re: car bluetooth.
Also some cars are just bad that way I tried my Nexus 4 on brand new Infinity FX fully loaded everything, the phone would not even connect to their system
My friend has Infinity EX35 2008, his Andorid phone would not allow him to play music through BT or cable, but I gave him my old crappy Iphone 3G and it works perfectly.
Try googling your car's smartphone supported list. Like this but for your car: here
My best suggestion keep the phone try not to get bothered by this and eventually it will work, I had to wait for about 5-6 month till it started working again. It all has to do with software updates and BT files.

odeccacccp said:
that sucks, but I highly doubte it's the phone defect, it's just software of the car or phone. Best bet is to wait for CM ROM for this phone CM worked always best for me re: car bluetooth.
Also some cars are just bad that way I tried my Nexus 4 on brand new Infinity FX fully loaded everything, the phone would not even connect to their system
My friend has Infinity EX35 2008, his Andorid phone would not allow him to play music through BT or cable, but I gave him my old crappy Iphone 3G and it works perfectly.
Try googling your car's smartphone supported list. Like this but for your car: here
My best suggestion keep the phone try not to get bothered by this and eventually it will work, I had to wait for about 5-6 month till it started working again. It all has to do with software updates and BT files.
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I thought of that too, just wait for software patch or CM. Its my OCD that is getting in the way. The phone seems to work fine otherwise. I know its a little thing and it could also just be that the phone is newer then my car and car software so it may just take some time to get the kinks worked out.
I'll give it a few more days and see who else replies before I do anything rash I did live with the S3 just fine with no metadata before it got upgraded. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll keep your wakelock suggestions in mind as well.

Vgamer4550 said:
I thought of that too, just wait for software patch or CM. Its my OCD that is getting in the way. The phone seems to work fine otherwise. I know its a little thing and it could also just be that the phone is newer then my car and car software so it may just take some time to get the kinks worked out.
I'll give it a few more days and see who else replies before I do anything rash I did live with the S3 just fine with no metadata before it got upgraded. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll keep your wakelock suggestions in mind as well.
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No problem, I've had lot's BT issues and been trying to solve then over the years. It's surprising not that many people use phones here with car BT's like that, so not many replies
Re: Wakelock, install this and see if you even have the problem, it would be in Kernel Wakelocks.
Also what car do you have? I'll keep an eye out if I hear anything, I'll let you know.

odeccacccp said:
No problem, I've had lot's BT issues and been trying to solve then over the years. It's surprising not that many people use phones here with car BT's like that, so not many replies
Re: Wakelock, install this and see if you even have the problem, it would be in Kernel Wakelocks.
Also what car do you have? I'll keep an eye out if I hear anything, I'll let you know.
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Ford Focus Titanium 2013, I really appreciate it.
It always makes me laugh when I see so many people who have bluetooth in their vehicle or a fancy smartphone and have no idea what they can do together Its a curse being the tech guy and knowing what things can do and agonizing over some specific issue that the normal person/user doesn't even realize is there. I.E. metadata on the display.
Me: "The phone isn't working right"
Normal Person: "Does the car play the song?"
Me: "Ya"
Normal Person: "Then what's the problem"
Me: "Its supposed to do more tho...gahhhh"

Vgamer4550 said:
Ford Focus Titanium 2013, I really appreciate it.
It always makes me laugh when I see so many people who have bluetooth in their vehicle or a fancy smartphone and have no idea what they can do together Its a curse being the tech guy and knowing what things can do and agonizing over some specific issue that the normal person/user doesn't even realize is there. I.E. metadata on the display.
Me: "The phone isn't working right"
Normal Person: "Does the car play the song?"
Me: "Ya"
Normal Person: "Then what's the problem"
Me: "Its supposed to do more tho...gahhhh"
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Hahah
I used to contact SYNC support and the answers where just crazy, that's when I started to do it myself, my problem is I don;t know Linux well

Can anyone else confirm or deny how well the AVRCP 1.3 is working on their Note 3 to show track information on their bluetooth devices.?
Please list model and carrier if possible.
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DanMc85 said:
I get some bluetooth crashes when I try to use apps with bluetooth metadata, such as the Spotify app that I modified to have bluetooth metadata... It works on every device I have except the Note 3... I get an error that says Bluetooth share has crashed every so often when I try...
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I get this same error with Pandora modified. It works perfect on all other devices but my note3 on tmobile. Saddens me that I had to downgrade.

Bluetooth AVRCP issues
I have used multiple devices in my car and the song information always displays correctly. Ever since I purchased my Note 3, I have noticed that my car's
display gets stuck on the first song's information and never switches. The songs will correctly play and quality does not seem to be impaired.
I have not found a way to update my car's software but I will look into it. Just wanted to add my issues to the thread.
I have the AT&T SM-N900A version of the Note and my car is a 2012 Honda Civic Si.

smkcody said:
I have used multiple devices in my car and the song information always displays correctly. Ever since I purchased my Note 3, I have noticed that my car's display gets stuck on the first song's information and never switches. The songs will correctly play and quality does not seem to be impaired.
I have not found a way to update my car's software but I will look into it. Just wanted to add my issues to the thread. I have the AT&T SM-N900A version of the Note and my car is a 2012 Honda Civic Si.
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Thanks for the reply, I would bet Samsung is doing things a little differently with these new phones and it might take a bit for the Manufacturers to catch up. I have also read on a couple other sites that AVRCP 1.3 may not be implemented properly and might need to be updated by Samsung, it is unknown at this point but hopefully I will be able to test this out with a Tmobile Note 3 this afternoon and report back on how things look.
With my ATT Note 3, I get text messages on the screen (which I didnt on the S3 prior to updating) but I dont get any track info.
Lets keep the confirmations coming, maybe we can narrow down a make and model and let the Carriers/Samsung know they need to fix something if its broke.

Don't want to upgrade to oreo

Is it possible to prevent the update to 8.0?
I've read conflicting stories, some say turn off auto download and just ignore the update messages.
Others say the upgrade will install regardless.
Which is it?

It's preventable to some extent i guess... But it pops again and again... And then the system is going to get buggy.... Any particular reason not to upgrade....

beaverHausen said:
Is it possible to prevent the update to 8.0?
I've read conflicting stories, some say turn off auto download and just ignore the update messages.
Others say the upgrade will install regardless.
Which is it?
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You can untick the option but some people reported it eventually installed anyways. To be safe I would disable the specific packages, but yes it's possible.

sefrcoko said:
You can untick the option but some people reported it eventually installed anyways. To be safe I would disable the specific packages, but yes it's possible.
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Thanks buddy, how do you disable the packages?

If your using a carrier unlocked version you can simply move to a different carrier and if your drivers are not up to date you will never get a notification to update. I currently have an ATT unlocked note 8 running on T-Mobile still on 7.1.1 as you can see

I prevented the updates by not allowing autoupdates in settings, as I knew that this was not entirely reliable, I used bk disabler pro plugin, if you are still running 7.1.1, it is easy to do it this way

Any reason why you don't want to install the latest version of Android on your device? As you are leaving your device opened to security flaws.

iceepyon said:
Any reason why you don't want to install the latest version of Android on your device? As you are leaving your device opened to security flaws.
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I spend a lot of time in my car inbetween appointments, visiting clients etc.
Its important that I'm up to speed at work and the Note 8 was (until oreo and 1st October patch) the only device that gave me email, sms and system messages in my BMW.
Whilst driving, the car would read out my emails and if it was important I could make a call in response. Now, my note 8 doesn't even see the car, nothing, zilch, nada.
I know BT works on other pairings, I can pair the phone to my other devices but it just will not see the car and the car now won't see the phone. I can pair other phones to it but none of them give me email which is molto importante!
I have already updated the car BT and like I've said, it used to work up until a month ago.
So, I'm trading in my note 8 for a new one that is still on 7.1.1 as I'm dead in the water without connectivity whilst travelling.
I have been on with Samsung support who say BMW need to make an updated BT oreo firmware and, BMW say the same about Samsung.

beaverHausen said:
I spend a lot of time in my car inbetween appointments, visiting clients etc.
Its important that I'm up to speed at work and the Note 8 was (until oreo and 1st October patch) the only device that gave me email, sms and system messages in my BMW.
Whilst driving, the car would read out my emails and if it was important I could make a call in response. Now, my note 8 doesn't even see the car, nothing, zilch, nada.
I know BT works on other pairings, I can pair the phone to my other devices but it just will not see the car and the car now won't see the phone. I can pair other phones to it but none of them give me email which is molto importante!
I have already updated the car BT and like I've said, it used to work up until a month ago.
So, I'm trading in my note 8 for a new one that is still on 7.1.1 as I'm dead in the water without connectivity whilst travelling.
I have been on with Samsung support who say BMW need to make an updated BT oreo firmware and, BMW say the same about Samsung.
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Have you tried booting your device into Recovery Mode and wiping the cache partition? This may resolve your issue.

iceepyon said:
Have you tried booting your device into Recovery Mode and wiping the cache partition? This may resolve your issue.
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Yeah tried that.
Also stopped BT and wiped cache and data from apps > system apps also.
Tried different BT AVCRP versions from developer mode and have factory reset the phone.
Still won't connect.

Do you encounter the same issues when connecting your Note 8 to other bluetooth devices or bluetooth enabled vehicles?

iceepyon said:
Do you encounter the same issues when connecting your Note 8 to other bluetooth devices or bluetooth enabled vehicles?
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Works fine in my wife's car (Ford) and the Polar heart rate monitor I use. I don't connect to much else but I can see other devices in a BT search, but not my car.

beaverHausen said:
Works fine in my wife's car (Ford) and the Polar heart rate monitor I use. I don't connect to much else but I can see other devices in a BT search, but not my car.
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Do other devices see your car? It might be an inconveniently timed problem with your BMW, rather than the other way around?

StevePritchard said:
Do other devices see your car? It might be an inconveniently timed problem with your BMW, rather than the other way around?
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My old HTC One M8 is paired as is my wife's iPhone 6S (yuk)

beaverHausen said:
My old HTC One M8 is paired as is my wife's iPhone 6S (yuk)
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Can you get a hold of another Note 8 running Nougat and trying pair that with your BMW? If it is indeed an Oreo issue I would recommend that you report it to Samsung and wait for them to address it via a OS Update.

winol said:
I prevented the updates by not allowing autoupdates in settings, as I knew that this was not entirely reliable, I used bk disabler pro plugin, if you are still running 7.1.1, it is easy to do it this way
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Where can I find this?
Seems to have gone from play store...

Yes.... I took a look, and unfortunately even in the developer's page it is no longer available, and it can not be installed from an unofiicial source as it needs to be validated and activated by the developer, but, take a look at this:
https://kunkunsoft.wordpress.com/fix-package-disabler/

Smart View Not Working After Android 10 Update

Apologies if this is the wrong section. I have a Samsung Galaxy S10 on Verizon. A few months ago I had a Kenwood DMX906S installed in my car. Up until Verizon rolled out the Android 10 Update, I was able to use Smart View to wirelessly screen mirror to my Kenwood. With the update, the Smart View app was also updated to v8.1.32. I'm not sure what it was before, but looking through the previous APKs, I'm thinking it was version 7.x.x.
So now, I'm unable to share to my Kenwood. Other support forums have shown that people are having the same issues with Sony Bravia TVs and other TVs as well. I have contacted Kenwood and they said it's not really their issue and they might look at releasing a firmware update at some point.
So, I've looked on APK Mirror and have been able to find previous versions of the APK, but I can't figure out how to uninstall the current version because it's a built in app. And even if I try to just install a more recent version available on APK Mirroring (8.1.40) it gives me a simple error that the APK wasn't installed. More than that, I'm not certain if the problem stems from an issue with the Smart View app itself or if it's a setting somewhere in the new Android 10 Update that I'm overlooking. Any help would be appreciated.

Same issue with a Kenwood dmx9706s and gs9+
I contacted Samsung nine times. They want me to send my phone in. They don't get it. Kenwood says sorry not our problem. Verizon says we don't do software. Crutchfield says, yes we know you bought that receiver last week. But it's discontinued now. And try Samsung.
It seems like something in wifi direct is broken. I also tried the newer apks and they would not install.

Didn't work for me but...
I have a galaxy z flip and my device will connect but only displays a zoomed in section of my homescreen. But I found on a reddit thread that a lot of people were able to get their smart view to work again after resetting network settings. You will lose saved wifi passwords, etc. but I felt it worth trying even though my problem didn't exactly match up. But if your problem is not being able to connect at all then that was a fix that worked for quite a few people. Hopefully it works for you, now I'm off to continue my search for a solution to my seemingly on off problem.

verizon or samsung update?

Android Auto for phone screens is final stopped?

Even the Android Auto for phone screens was retired for Android 12, you can still use it on old Androids 11, 10. A month ago a message appear "Android Auto for phone screens will stop working soon", but still can use it.
Today I tried to start the app and instead appear the Android Auto settings page and no more Android Auto for phone screens. I have Miui 12.5.7 with Android 11 and Android Auto 7.6.621734-release.
Its only me or they kill out AAFPS for good?

For me the same...

Android Auto is now on the scrap heap; in short it will no longer work as a stand-alone.
Google have thrown a kill-switch (2 days ago now) for discrete mode so that now, it can only work in screen-mirroring mode which necessitates a compatible infotainment system/head unit (check the message it opens with).
The official alternative on offer is Driving Mode in the Google Assistant. It's of dubious quality, especially for devices older than Android 10, where it really is just a shortcut to Google Maps.
Alternative apps/launchers are available but they are either expensive or just plain rubbish (and often both).

I'm sorry to hear this is confirmed. So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit.
Driving Mode in the Google Assistant is a just simple no-go. Here in Romania we use a lot Waze for police report, traffic jams and bad roads. Also since romanian language is not supported , you can spell some small commands in english, but to convince it to drive you at address or even to call your mom is very difficult.
So now I'm without alternative .

triovi said:
...So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit...
...So now I'm without alternative .
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Indeed - and you are not alone as many reviews on Google Play confirm.
One other option is to roll-back to an older version. If you don't have a backup then APKMirror might be for you:-
Android Auto on APKMirror
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...

xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...
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I'll give it a try: my Renault Megane is half destroyed and now I have to use (for long time) a Seat Leon without AA enabled!
I've started AA on my old (but still running fine) Motorola Moto G5 and is not working anymore... Problem is that the phone is running Android 8.1 so Drive Assistant is not available (it needs at least Android 9!)

xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
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GCalzo said:
I'll give it a try
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on my pc I had a few backups, I have removed the current build and installed Android Auto_7.2.620123-release and it worked flawlessly!
I'll look for a more recent build on APKmirror!
Addendum: tried with v7.6 but got the advice. For my Android v8.1 the last working is v7.2!

Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.

I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...

Google are literally murderers , besides all the people they have stranded or driven of the road or over ravines with their crappy maps app
they have probably killed thousands in traffic accidents with their garbage software
,this new "driving mode" is no exception , I mean AA was an absolute out of control garbage fire just like GA is but this "driving mode" is over the top
even for the complete morons over at Google.
I can not tell you how many accidents I have almost got into since they removed trusted voice unlock and now that this POS driving mode has replaced AA it has gotten MUCH worse, they should be sued for this dangerous crap they have forced on us, I will NOT be buying another pixel EVER.
fist of all this POS continually turns the screen off and locks the device forcing me to unlock the phone continuously while driving,
they are so S all stupid they didn't even bother to make it rotate to landscape mode and my car mount is for landscape only. (only people who hold their guns sideways would want to use their phones in portrait mode as they always seem to do when taking word star videos)
the "driving mode" is pure trash ,there are no audio controls, you can't use it if you just want to listen to music and for phone calls because it's tied to maps and you have be using navigation to use it.
there is NOTHING here of any value I mean who TF wants to read the New York Slimes, ever and especially WHILE DRIVING, yeah great replacement to music apps and music controls.
There is no way in hell I would ever give these evil bastards my biometric data so here I am trying to unlock my phone with a pattern every 30 seconds while it is mounted landscape and the unlock pattern is in portrait mode, I have to tilt my head or try and figure out my lock pattern adjusted for it being tilted 90 degree off while I'm driving every 30 seconds because the screen keeps turning off and locking the device even though I have "smartlock" (DUMBlock) enabled and my cars bluetooth added as a "trusted device" as well as a smart band, but it just seems to ignore the fact both are connected.
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs, every single last one of them should have been kicked the F out on their arses a long time ago. , maybe we need to get Elon over there.

SOFO888 said:
I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...
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please don't give up and keep trying other wise I am switching back to IOS, I just can't deal with this S
maybe I can throw away my pixel 3a XL and just go back to my old 6p on Nougat
this is not acceptable, what other options are there, I have an echo auto I never set up maybe that will be better.

peetig said:
Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.
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F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.

My idea is to install an alternative launcher as soon as you are connected to your car's Bluetooth system. I mean a launcher made for driving with big icons and so on.
With tasker you could additionally make a task to increase the display timeout to infinite when connected to your car's Bluetooth system.

gdroid666 said:
F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.
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Goodbye.

gdroid666 said:
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs,
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Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
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maybe we need to get Elon over there.
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Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....

xanda-escuyer said:
Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....
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Thing is most cars don't have it still
the stand alone android units just suck because they don't have any connection method unless they use your phone as a hotspot , unless they have some with sim cards, but now sim cards are being phased out too, and I would not spend more money a month just to keep my head unit connected to GSM
I would buy a head unit if they made one that had wireless android auto baked in but there are none, at least not what I want, I want one for my BMW E46 that looks pretty close to stock, Android head units like that are a dime a dozen for this thing but none of them have AA or wireless AA
,what they should really make is a tablet that has wireless AA built in
or a fire tablet that acts as an echo show auto but with a screen
that you can mount to your dash ,sucks that all the hardware has been there to this for like a decade but because of theese big cancer monopolies we can't use the hardware to its full potential
I have yet to try reloaded yet but I have feeling it will not be good
but here is no reason this can't run on low end tablet like a fire tablet
maybe I will finally get around to trying out my echo auto that I picked up for $20 that has been sitting here not even unboxed for over a year now
thing is that my grom unit is a PITA to pair to my phone , you need to pull 3 different fuses to erase it and repair a new device and then once you do the feature that send the ID4 tags to the display on the radio might not work then you have to pair it all over agian , I am wondering if echo auto will send the track data to the grom and if it will display on the stock radio display like it does with the phone , then maybe I will just ditch GA altogether
its a horrible trash fire anyways , if Amazon made a fire phone again with hands free Alexa baked in I would buy it in hearbeat, anything to get rid of GA

mike.s said:
Goodbye.
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Yeah ok ,see ya, I was thinking about buying a 7 pro but not now
F Google , I will NEVER buy another phone from them until they bring back trusted voice unlock and make their phones useable while driving
android is a nothing but a trash fire now, mainly because GA just sucks now
doesn't work while driving , doesn't work with hands free at all not even while using buds, unacceptable trash OS and very dangerous to use while driving people will die in accidents because of Googles moronic decisions and negligence, again F Google I'm out.

gdroid666 said:
Yeah ok ,see ya,..
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Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...

xanda-escuyer said:
Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...
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Yes everything Google does frustrates me, these people are absolutely obtuse
ok so do you have any suggestions for alternatives?
maybe there is a 3rd party app?
I have a Grom bluetooth unit and they have an app called dashlinq but I have not tried it yet
not sure how it will work with Google assistant
so are there any other 3rd party apps that do essentially the same thing as AA?
not sure if this dashlinq app uses GA or not or if it has it's own voice recognition.
I am surprised that there is not a way to keep using AA though as there is with Google play music ,which you can stil use if you have the right legacy version installed despite its replacement with YT music.
I am still confident there is a way, and also a bit confused
on weather it is going to work on my phone still since I have not updated past Android 11 , guess I will try installing some older .apk's and see if it is only not working anymore on Android 12.

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I'm out.
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You keep saying that.

Suddenly, the dreaded "Device is not supported" after 4 years

I have an Alpine iLX-W650 and a OnePlus 7 Pro. Android Auto has been working perfectly for well over 4 years now, even through OS upgrades (currently on Android 12).
Suddenly, about a week ago I got the "Device is not supported." message. A reboot of the phone while in the car fixed it.
Then it happened again the next day, nothing I do resolves it including a new or different cable. There was an Android update this morning and I also saw a new version of Android Auto. I did both of these hoping one would fix the issue. Nothing. Multiple reboots later, including telling Android Auto to forget me unit, still nothing.
I had my wife plug in her phone and the head unit works perfectly with Android Auto, so something with my phone changed or a setting is corrupted. I'm not sure how to get things working again.
As mentioned, I tried:
another cable (several now)
"Forgetting all cars" in the settings
Forgetting connected cars in the Head Unit.
Factory resetting the Head Unit.
Double-checking the Head Unit is the latest firmware (it is).
Deleting the AA app and clearing data and cache for it and then updating to the latest.
Deleting the AA app and clearing data and cache for it and then trying to connect to let it pull down AA.
As noted above, my wife's phone works no problem with my head unit and since thing my daughter tried her phone which works too. Clearly, something on my phone got corrupted or something to cause it to not work anymore.

Rule #1 - if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission let it be! Upgrades and updates can and do break devices.
Once you sort that mess out disable auto updates.

For anyone that might stumble on this, I considered that maybe my phone's data port was at fault and causing issues. Otherwise, my OnePlus 7 Pro works great and still charges. Not really ready to let it go.
Since I've always wanted AA to be wireless, I ordered the AAwireless device and it works flawlessly. In fact, it is more responsive than when my phone was cabled. Wish I had done this years ago.

stevemajor said:
For anyone that might stumble on this, I considered that maybe my phone's data port was at fault and causing issues. Otherwise, my OnePlus 7 Pro works great and still charges. Not really ready to let it go.
Since I've always wanted AA to be wireless, I ordered the AAwireless device and it works flawlessly. In fact, it is more responsive than when my phone was cabled. Wish I had done this years ago.
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A port pcb failure can cause data and phone service loss at least on Samsung's.
If it happens after a firmware upgrades/update it's not a hardware failure...