Cooincidence or long Term Plan Googles ? Why Android is called android - Off-topic

Ever since i was puzzled why Google calls thier MobileOS Android. I know the explanation about the 90s Game still i never bought it.
Still now with Rapid growing new AI Technology, more and more Datacollecting it hit he. Better late then never.
Android seems to be supposed to not only include Humans into their Big Ai and Data Network, now make it part as their Workforce.
And it was planned so from the beginning, with a very bold clue even in the Naming.
If we look closely it is already doing that. Not only collecting your personal preferences, need and thoughs but also using everyone of us to collect data. If as simple as collecting Wifi Networknames to map the world, or using the GPS/Maps data to Map current Traffic. Or more complex things hidden in our daily Data.
Googles newest Effort, now let us use their Neural Network to analys Data,.. looks like someone wants to learn a lot.
it really apeears to me that not the OS is Android itself alone, but the combination OS and User is the Android.
That google wants to be in every aspect of our life isnt something new, but that we are in googles life is kinda something not outspoken. Were Part of that machinery, bribed with free Services that arent even Services they are simply Tools and we are their willing workers. And i have that strange feeling that this isnt something that just happend, more that this is part of a very big long though plan (i dont call it business plan for a reason).
Well as long this stays passive, well fine who cares you could say.
But is it really passive?
How much are we influenced by filtered Data tailored for us personally.
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
As an Interresting sidenote was microsoft AI on twitter who became a nazi propagate genozide within 24 hours.
Ofc can be simply bad coding by MS, or just a natural reaction of any Inteligence to Human socieity on the net, who knows..
Something to think about

PS You may think iam crazy, then again maybe google fed you the exact information to make you think that

bofh999 said:
Ever since i was puzzled why Google calls thier MobileOS Android. I know the explanation about the 90s Game still i never bought it.
Still now with Rapid growing new AI Technology, more and more Datacollecting it hit he. Better late then never.
Android seems to be supposed to not only include Humans into their Big Ai and Data Network, now make it part as their Workforce.
And it was planned so from the beginning, with a very bold clue even in the Naming.
If we look closely it is already doing that. Not only collecting your personal preferences, need and thoughs but also using everyone of us to collect data. If as simple as collecting Wifi Networknames to map the world, or using the GPS/Maps data to Map current Traffic. Or more complex things hidden in our daily Data.
Googles newest Effort, now let us use their Neural Network to analys Data,.. looks like someone wants to learn a lot.
it really apeears to me that not the OS is Android itself alone, but the combination OS and User is the Android.
That google wants to be in every aspect of our life isnt something new, but that we are in googles life is kinda something not outspoken. Were Part of that machinery, bribed with free Services that arent even Services they are simply Tools and we are their willing workers. And i have that strange feeling that this isnt something that just happend, more that this is part of a very big long though plan (i dont call it business plan for a reason).
Well as long this stays passive, well fine who cares you could say.
But is it really passive?
How much are we influenced by filtered Data tailored for us personally.
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
As an Interresting sidenote was microsoft AI on twitter who became a nazi propagate genozide within 24 hours.
Ofc can be simply bad coding by MS, or just a natural reaction of any Inteligence to Human socieity on the net, who knows..
Something to think about
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This post made my head spin but I can't say that this can't be a possibility. I mean 10 years ago if you would have told me that mobiles were going to be important part of our lives I would have laughed!
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bofh999 said:
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
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why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.

I definitely think you're crazy
I also think the tin-foilers have a highly inflated sense of their own importance, thinking that everyone wants to know everything about them.

bofh999 said:
why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.
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Not everyone relies on computers or has an online presence. So human killing robots is the best way to be sure to get everyone. In my humble opinion. :good:

I say ,blame the humans...And those troll people like @Darth ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...un-millennial-ai-bot-into-a-genocidal-maniac/

Death to trolls!!
/tosses pitchforks and tablets into the room......

No. Computers do not think and are not capable of thinking. They do what they are told and *nothing* else.
The Microsoft thing was misreported as click-bait to sucker people who will believe anything they read. The phrase "repeat after me..." was used to make it repeat offensive phrases. It did not "decide" that it liked Hitler - it did what it was told.
What you suggest cannot happen with our technology - it is simply not capable.

OP

I came from the machine world... I know it's coming!

Darth said:
Not everyone relies on computers or has an online presence. So human killing robots is the best way to be sure to get everyone. In my humble opinion. :good:
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Not the point. Practically everyone relys of computer if you use em or not, if he knows that or not.
Energy, Food, Money,information and communication,.... take whatever you want, its all running now deeply dependent on computers and networks.
you dont need to kill mankind, if you control every little piece of imnformation you control the people.
look like countries like north korea work. still they need violence but most people there really think kim is a god.
and if the biug AI wants to kill us, well simply change a few numbers.
make mankind believe we have enough food and energy until we drained everything to zero and then we simply starve, simplfied spoken

why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.

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You Need To See This!!!

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I dont think I've ever seen anybody give such a biased review as this, this guy had my blood boiling for a moment.
Take a look if you dare and judge for yourself. Tell me if you can keep your composure...
Star Wars said:
Wow this guy is a dumbass!
I have seen lizards sunbathing give better reviews than this, then again this is the iphone blog so I guess I may have been expecting a little too much since peripheral vision with other electronic devices that aren’t Apple pretty much is non-existent, I guess he can be forgiven.
Great star wars theme impression tho!
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lol best comment ever!!!
who gives a flying f**k about what an Apple-Fanboy has to say about WinMo Devices ?
He can berate our Hardware until he starts bleeding from every orifice, but the iPhone will never be as customizable and extendable than ANY WinMo Phone, period.
Best example is AppStore... you get to pay for second class (and that's really saying it in a nice way) software that only has a few functions which are badly implemented.
Also, you are seeing what kind of Audience Apple is trying to attract when you look at the "Facebook" App.
They should release apps for MySpace, Twitter, StickAm and stuff like that for all the young and hip media-prostitutes out there too.
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who gives a flying f**k about what an Apple-Fanboy has to say about WinMo Devices ?
He can berate our Hardware until he starts bleeding from every orifice, but the iPhone will never be as customizable and extendable than ANY WinMo Phone, period.
Best example is AppStore... you get to pay for second class (and that's really saying it in a nice way) software that only has a few functions which are badly implemented.
Also, you are seeing what kind of Audience Apple is trying to attract when you look at the "Facebook" App.
They should release apps for MySpace, Twitter, StickAm and stuff like that for all the young and hip media-prostitutes out there too.
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+1
Neither do I give a rats a** but its astonishing how someone can put out that piece of junk (only going as deep as the main menu) and call it a review.
Then again if it's a calculated scheme to increase number of hits to their site, then i guess they have succeeded, can't say if it's the right attention though.
Cant see why the fuss - the review was pretty sh*t but the phone looks like a bloater, its way to thick for my taste and makes my Touch look like its super thin. And his comments about the interface are true - in its pursuit to make eye candy HTC keep making it slower and more error prone. I would never buy an Iphone as i love the customization of the HTC but for your average phone user who does not want to learn anything at all the iphone gives them all they need.
I just can't stand Apple and their Marketing Tactics... they make it sound like they were the first to bring a Smartphone (which the iPhone actually isn't) to the Market that has a touchscreen... and Millions of fanboys actually fall in line and buy that crap.
I'm not saying that Apple Computers are crap, they're good at a few things too, chief among which is "looking good" but did the world really need that overhyped Phone ?
well it's definitely not thin, thats something I can live with, granted all that it does. Guess when there is a phone with all the capabilities of the TP as thin as a diamond with a 5 row keyboard, then we can complain. About the phone being slow, any phone during initial start up process is slow, its not HTC specific.
I don't have beef with Apple, just the fanboys and the fanboy sites!
He compares a TP to a Samsung Instinct for God's sake!!!
I could care less if my Phone was the size of a frickin' cinder-block as long as it does everything I want it to do... it does not have to be slim enough to slide it through underneath a Door.
I'll probably get me an HTC Opal next year or so, with Manila 2D... that thing will make me happier than any iPhone that will ever see the light of day.
What a fool!!!!
Holy **** he makes HTC Fuze makes the most ****ing piece of crap ever made! jajajaja i will make a video review for my hermes and it will be much better than that stupidity useless preview.... Holy **** this makes me hunger!!!
That was actually rather ridiculous. He does make some valid points as to WM's lack of finesse in some departments, but he really seemed to go out of his way to be child-like and/or a douche bag with that phone.
Yes, I tend to use a stylus with my Tilt because the screen seems to be purposefully fighting me, but it's not nearly as bad as he's making it out to be.
"The era of hard keyboards is over"
whatever, I think this review is totaly refering to the guys inteligence. He complains that he dont know how to use the sliding of the pics and music. How is that silly.
LOL
The music of "star wars" is hilarious!!
Hahahaha
origins81 said:
well it's definitely not thin, thats something I can live with, granted all that it does. Guess when there is a phone with all the capabilities of the TP as thin as a diamond with a 5 row keyboard, then we can complain. About the phone being slow, any phone during initial start up process is slow, its not HTC specific.
I don't have beef with Apple, just the fanboys and the fanboy sites!
He compares a TP to a Samsung Instinct for God's sake!!!
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Which is funny, because the Samsung Instinct has the same features/layout as the iPhone.
orb3000 said:
Sorry to disagree with you but that´s not true, hard keyboards will never be substituted, just wait a few months and you´ll see what´s coming...
Respectfully,
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That was not my words, the guy in the review said that, and my coment on that was: "whatever".
That means that I disagree with that statement.
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That was not my words, the guy in the review said that, and my coment on that was: "whatever".
That means that I disagree with that statement.
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Ohh I´m sorry, my mistake
Cheers,
Wow, that is truly a slap on the neck. He just could be the most annoying thing ever with that introduction. It's a rather childish review if you ask me.
That idiot with his comments is one the biggest stupidities i've seen in my life. If his brain capacity is not high enough (or there at all) to manipulate a pocket pc, he should have never blame it on the device and get himself a Motorola Startak (with the Manual Book and Quick Reference Guide of course!!).
Haha! I bet he still uses it.
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he touches the screen like a cat scratching a tire
the guy is like woody allen reviewing a phone
well, he does have ONE point, the "smoothness" of the phone isnt all that great, coming(him, not me) from the iphone, you shouldn't have to wait for your touch to take effect, for example when he is trying to navigate in HTCalbum. stupid qualcomm CPU's. I'm not buying another htc phone until they use a different processor, I was ALMOST fooled with the TouchPRO, until I saw some videos and heard some input. in some ways its worse and slower than the kaiser.
We need an HTC phone that is as fast as the iphone or faster. I'm really surprised HTC hasn't tried to compete speed wise, it really amazes me...
o, but anyway, about the video.
Yeah he kinda sucks at reviewing. And it's obvious he is a noob to TouchFLO3d lol. he's not grabbing the current tab, he's just sliding on other tabs.

free drink mix software?

finally 21 and now i want software to help me get drunk in delicious fashion soo does anyone know of free software with mixes based on ingredients and such?
Here is one free one that I know of, however it is in no way the best. It actually references an online database to pull the drinks, so you would need a data plan to utilize it. It can be downloaded from freewarepocketpc at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocketender.html
The best one that I have found is not free but was only like $14 USD and is fantastic. It is from Town Compass, but it is quite inclusive... Here's some of the info: http://software.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=490101
App
There's a bunch on this site. check them out. i havent tried it yet thou.
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http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/drink+mix
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/alcoholic+drink
http://handheld.softpedia.com/downloadTag/cocktail
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this is to check if your sober enough to drive lol.( theres probably a better app out there...)
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Health/AlcoholLevel-67390.shtml
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i personally love the bartender app on the tmobile G1 but i cannot find it for my phone... errrrrr
well i hope i helped some. and if anyone can find the bartender app from tmobile g1 and its compatible with raphael/fuze i would love to know!!
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After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
AvantGo
Try using www.avantgo.com and add the "Drink Boy" channel. You'll get good recipes on a nice interface that you can view and search for offline. When you're online, it updates itself. I've had a lot of fun with it.
Oh yeah! Don't drink and drive.
speed_pour said:
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I would definately be down. I totally concur. Half the bartender apps are outdated or are a bit difficult to navigate through. Being an amature bartender, I use my database quite a bit, but yeah if there was a program that would allow you to enter in your liquors on hand and priovide you with possibile combinations... Damn... That'd be sweet....
Sorry it's too early in the morning....
speed_pour said:
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Heck yeah!
+1 as my favorite quote is: "Candy is Dandy, But Liquor is Quicker"
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speed_pour said:
After looking through what was available, I'm a bit appalled by how horrible most of those apps look (and work).
I'm a former (and possibly returning) bartender and used to be a regular on one of the bigger online cocktail forums...so trust me when I say that most of the apps I saw are abysmal in both looks and function.
If there's enough interest, I'd consider throwing together an application to do this all much better. Any thoughts?
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I'd love a drink mixing app.... so count me twice (for each hand that can hold a drink) lol
iam also a bartender and would love an app for mix drinks and shots!!! but dont forget to add the DEATHWISH shot:
DEATHWISH:
1/3 JAGER
1/3 WILD TURKEY 101
1/3 BACARDI 151
SPLASH OF GRENADINE...
(layer grenadine on bottom of shot glass, after pouring in liqours...)
(NOT FOR THE LIGHT DRINKER!!!)
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
sherv said:
I'll donate to such a cause since I completely agree on the crappy state of the mixing apps!
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I freely admit, since I'm out of work right now, I'm fine with being a whore
I've already got a bit of this started, but I'm working on another project first that I think will get a lot of wide-spread usage across the forum. But I'll get back to working on this one very soon.
In the mean time, are there any particular features anybody is looking for. I'm sure it'll be easy enough to figure out all of the features the drinkers want, but what about bartenders? Tell me how often you think you'll be entering drinks, what extra features do you need. Will you actually be using this while at work...with your fingers?
I know this is in the Raph section, though it belongs in Q&A or D&H, but does anybody here want a QVGA version, or dare I ask, W(Q)VGA? If this app is going to see finger-based controls (which I'd expect to make sense), it's not really going to work out having small windows controls, so graphics/resolution will be considered for the first version.
This site works well for me Webtender
thedarkness81 said:
This site works well for me Webtender
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I used to be a regular contributor to the forums there...The biggest problem is that the drink database is absolutely cluttered with incorrect entries and missing a lot of common recipes.
When I start building a collection of recipes, there's actually a couple of people from that forum that I'm going to ask for help/collaboration. I'm also going to throw them a heads up to ask for any thoughts from them on what they would like to see.
Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
GoBills2184 said:
Any update on this app being made?? Im very anxious to have it...
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lol, from me, it'll be at least a couple of weeks. I'm in the middle of working on another app that'll be quite a bit more relevant on this forum. But I will be coming back to this app shortly.
I'll post more info to this thread when I start it, and then I'll create a release thread in D&H (and post a link to it here) when there's a reasonably good start on a beta version.
You can help out by giving some ideas of what features you'd like to see in it.
this is very cool that you'd consider putting an app together, pour...the best reference app/source I've found is that DrinkBoy channel on avantgo. That said, my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group, but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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my advice would be keep it very simple. Not only will this, hopefully, take burden and time from your investment to the group
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I kinda suspect, with luck, my app will draw attention from hopefully every group....the college students, bar patrons, and even bartenders from different types of places. For that reason, a "simple" app might not be too likely. Simple interface is definitely part of my plan, but the application itself is going to be pretty powerful and probably meant to cover a lot of people's uses.
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but I don't think I'd be looking for anything other than:
-thorough database with accuracy on both contents and how to prepare
-a "my favorites" option for quick look-ups and personalization
-organize at the root based on main ingredient (e.g. rum, vodka, bourbon)
-a search option with fuzzy-esque searchability (e.g. southside, southsides or southsider would produce the same drink recipe)
I guess these may end up being more work than I thought but an accurate db, easy search and browse engine with a "my fav's" organizer would be PERFECTION for me!!
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- Favorites will be very easy to implement, so this is pretty much a sure thing.
- The database itself is a subject I intend to take more seriously than a lot of people probably expect (more on that in the future).
- I've got several ideas for searches/filters, each will be fleshed out as I build it. I'm aiming mostly for live searches and the first will be using quick ingredient filtering.
- fuzzy search...I'll see what I can do, but that's one I know very little about. Some quick googling turned up some information that's possibly VERY usable, but it's all written for the the big brother .Net Framework while the Compact Framework gets no love. I'll bookmark some of this stuff and see where I can go with it after I've released a first version. As much as it might be cool, I can't justify porting Lucene.Net to the compact framework for this project. In the mean time, I can use a "Sounds Like" mechanism that would probably do pretty well for an early version. I'm also a little worried about performance.
As a note, I'd previously said that I wouldn't be starting this until I finished another application. I feel a little dumb for not seeing it sooner, but I discovered Sashimi exists (though I haven't started testing it). While it sorely lacks about half of the features I planned to build, it does a far better job at the other half of the features I had in mind. I'm going to try out Sashimi for a while to determine if there's enough reason to build my app (or possibly a configurator/extension of sorts for use with Sashimi, if possible). As a result, I'm going to put that project on hold and move on to this one.
Second note...err, request actually...I'm ok with graphics...sometimes...But I want to make this app graphically attractive and possibly add skinning ability. At the very least, I will need a few decent looking icons for a few things, at the most, it might turn into an entire interface design. One of my goals is to make this app roughly comparable to something people might expect to buy form the iPhone AppStore (after all, everybody is *****ing about the lack of pretty WM apps). So, if anybody has decent graphics skills and is up for helping out, drop me a line and we'll bump some ideas around when I get to the right stage.
wow i had almost forgot about this thread glad to see something has come of it!
definetly excited to see what you come up with
Is this program still in active development? I hope it is because it sounds like it could be really nice/useful!

Instagram-->iPhone users hate us

http://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/iphone-users-disgusted-by-android-instagram
Check out that link.
First of all instagram is a disgrace to every real photographer in the world who actually spends time editing pictures to look better instead of just tossing on a generic mask. Next how can one group of users (namely iPhone users) actually say "Yuck" and "ew" to another group of people being able to use the same service. I dont see anyone who owns a BB saying "Man Android users getting BBM is like losers in high school taking over the cool table", as one retarded person in that post said with regards to instagram on android. In fact I'm pretty sure many BB users would be happy they can BBM more of their friends, or atleast I felt that way when I had a BB. This is truly proof that idiots (I know not everyone that uses instagram falls under this category but clearly these people do) who use instagram truly do think they are better than others simply because they can upload retro looking pictures of their meals and random highlights of their day. Well guess what you can have your *********** instagram back because android has 45 or 50 apps that have the exact same functions and most likely function even better.
To anyone with an android device, do yourself a favour and download Pixlr-o-matic. Its an app brought to you by Autodesk (the company made famous for building autocad and revit as well as 3dstudio max and countless other pieces of pricey software). Its available for free on the Google Play Store and is much better than that piece of elitist **** iPhone users call instagram.
Edit: This was copied from my FB, excuse my language.
Those posts explain everything that is wrong with iPhone users. Thinking their inferior products are better because of a logo.
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Sad and mildly amusing.
This post reflects my first thought:
"Neo Zargaran · Los Angeles, California
They all use "ew" is this a campaign or something? ****ing idiots."
:weeps for humanity:
I agree, Pixlr-o-matic is much better than Instagram. I just compare those two application today.
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***** please. I'm more retro than any instagram user. Well I have to say I will use the app once in a blue moon, but I hate people calling themselves photogs by owning a stupid app. If you don't get the photo, search for 'Holga'
jaszek said:
***** please. I'm more retro than any instagram user. Well I have to say I will use the app once in a blue moon, but I hate people calling themselves photogs by owning a stupid app. If you don't get the photo, search for 'Holga'
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Haha im with you.
I do a lot of automotive photography. And can spend hours sifting through my pictures and editing them to my satisfaction. In fact i just finished a portfolio (Im currently in school for architecture) which showcased a lot of my photography.
And to have someone come a long take a picture on their cell phone and throw a mask on it and say its better than my pictures makes me sad for humanity. And yes this did actually happen i showed someone a final edit of a picture i had taken, and they whipped out their cellphone and showed me a picture in which they had used the effects built in to camerazoomFX.
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Haha im with you.
I do a lot of automotive photography. And can spend hours sifting through my pictures and editing them to my satisfaction. In fact i just finished a portfolio (Im currently in school for architecture) which showcased a lot of my photography.
And to have someone come a long take a picture on their cell phone and throw a mask on it and say its better than my pictures makes me sad for humanity. And yes this did actually happen i showed someone a final edit of a picture i had taken, and they whipped out their cellphone and showed me a picture in which they had used the effects built in to camerazoomFX.
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Some things you can say:
"Can you zoom into that part of the photo so I can see the detail?"
"Wow, what a great photograph! I'd love to have it hanging in my room at 20x30 inches. You think we can work something out???....oh wait, your ****ty 5MP camera won't allow prints that big."
The only time I use my phones camera is to shoot something funny I see, or if I see something absolutley gorgeus, and I REALLY have to have a photo of it, or of my camera gear...also when drunk in bars. That's really what camera phones were made for.
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[email protected] i completely agree with you, i have on my E4GT and also have pixl one u stated like that better than instagram. but these cry baby iphone users act they invented instagram and its only for them. No the creator(s) smartened up and marketed this app to android for more publicity outside of whack @$$ apple. Marketing genious IMO. BUt let the apple iphone user hate cuz android is a million times better anyway. APPLE needs to step their screen size game up.
Wow. Those posts completely put me off. Let the dumb iPhone users f*** themselves with their closed-source, terrible-screened, slow pieces of crap. What has the world come to. I dream of the day when apps are made for Android and not iOS. That'll show them "ew"
/endrage
Edit: Most of us XDA users are way smarter than the average iPhone user actually, because we rooted our phones, flash them etc. which requires skill. Skill is not defined by updating through one click to the latest iOS. Coding and devvin' definitely takes skill.
Ew. iPhone users.....just....eeeewwwww.
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since when did buying a $400-$600 phone mean android is "poverty"
my lack up updates, SOD, flashed to perfection Vibrant blows the gayphone away. SAMOLED baby!
Gotta blame the retarded media
iphone justt cant beat the androids
eeewwwwwwe
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Most iPhone users suffer from extreme retardation. Either they don't want to learn about android and just jump on the mainstream train of licking Apple's ass and bashing android, or they are too retarded to learn.
I never understood the iPhone vs. Android fanboy wars...its the one thing more irritating than Dem vs Repub to me. The way I look at it, STFU and enjoy whichever phone you have, they're both good.
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"I feel gross knowing people with an android phone can follow me on instagram..."
Also, I feel kind of gross knowing I share a species with the guy that tweeted this ^
Downloading instragram to annoy the math teacher Today he was talking trash about android so I proved him wrong in 5 mins. . Android is better.
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If this is the case ... iPhone users should not be permitted to use Gtalk service on their phones. And let them cry about that. Let apple create their own free email account and integrate IMs on it.
I'm still wondering what would happen if Echofon for Twitter is released for android !! **Sighs**
the cluttered homepage of iphones just bores the hell outta me. whats the point of having wallpaper when you can't see it?
and yes, don't use google's search engine, gmail, gtalk, streeview maps!!! ewwee

Kill me, I don't think android is perfect

actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
Well, I want to kill you for making a hard to read post.
In before the lock?
I don't see anything specifically lock-worthy, but, just in case ib4c since Archer told us not to post ib4l ....it will probably go on for a bit since Archer is likely asleep and I don't see vanessaem online.

			
				
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OP suffers death by paper cuts.
But there's one thing perfect about android. It is always better than apple products. No matter how **** the android or how good the apple product.
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jacobgong said:
actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
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You make a thread titled "Android is not perfect" and don't give a single reason why it's not perfect. Instead you go insulting those who use the operating system (Which I would hardly call constructive criticism). Yes most of us realize that Android is not perfect. Software will never be perfect. There will always be better and more things to add. Now I agree with you in that some people take the specs of their phone way too seriously but that is not the majority of users.
P.S. It's not just Android people that will get mad if you start insulting. If you go to an Ubuntu forum and telling them that Linux is crap, they will yell at you. Same with an iPhone forum.
Oh and...
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I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
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I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
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Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
063_XOBX said:
I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
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Bless your heart, you made it that far.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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You must be a masochist.
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I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
Y...M...C...A...
Everybody!
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
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Did you just insult me? Too many 6+ letter words.
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Question PSA: How to fix the notification delay or non-receipt issue. Truly pathetic of Google and Samsung.

SOLUTION TO DELAYED-NOTIFICATIONS:
Enable USB debugging on the phone.
You just unzip the file provided here in your PC: https://www.xda-developers.com/install-adb-windows-macos-linux/
Navigate to it via terminal.
Then, after you connect the phone to your PC, run:
./adb devices
./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
That'll fix it for sure.
I simply cannot recommend Android to my normie friends and family.
Let me restate this: It is not our job to fix Google's bugs.
This is a US-centric view.
If you can't tell: I am a bit aggravated right now.
I could not get my GMail, GCal, and other notifications to come through properly on Pixel 5's Android 11 OR S21 Ultra's Android 11.
This has apparently been an issue that many an Android user suffers through silently -- and, some don't even know that this is happening to them. I guess they're embarrassed to publicly state that their mobile OS is subpar.
When you get an e-mail or if a calendar event reminder is coming up, and even if your phone's screen is OFF/locked: you should get an *instant* notification. No delay whatsoever.
Well, if my screen was off/locked, I wouldn't get these notifications or it would take 10+ minutes to show. But, once I unlocked my phone: boom, notifications. And, sometimes even if my screen wasn't locked, there would be a serious delay or no notification.
After spending loads of time trying to fix this problem, me and my friend finally stumbled upon a solution: ./adb shell dumpsys deviceidle disable
A reboot eliminates this setting modification, by the way.
Do not tell me that instant e-mail notifications are not necessary. Many of us work jobs that require them to be instant.
No end user should ever have to go through this. iPhone users certainly don't go through this.
If Google doesn't care about Android users, then, why should I, as an Android user, care about Android too? Just switch to iPhone, I guess.
Google pays Apple $10bn+ every year and makes better software for iOS than it does for Android.
Just look at the damn widgets that iOS users get.
So, $10bn/year plus the cost of the software developed to cater to iOS users.
This makes Google a simp cuck to Apple, nothing else.
Would Apple ever return this favor? No.
Therefore, Google management is a simp cucked by Apple, nothing more.
We are fools to be using this OS.
If Google is willing to subsidize my iOS software updates and experience to the tune of billions of dollars every single year -- then, why not just switch?
Clearly, my experience has shown me that Android can be cheaper -- if I don't value my time.
Statistic after statistic bears it out: iPhone users are wealthier.
I am tired of being an Android luser -- why should I take on such abuse and neglect by the main author of my mobile OS?
Before you start patronizing me: YES, I tried every other bloody trick in the book to fix this issue.
No end user should ever have to go through this! No end user should have to run adb commands to enable basic functionality.
There are some basic things that modern smartphones should just be able to do: instant notifications, 3rd party camera support, functioning RCS or some other form of E2EE messaging built-in, reliable local backups, a nationwide network of repair facilities, etc.
Android fails on all of these.
iPhone ordered. Glad to leave this Android ghetto behind.
Hey Google, if you have some self-respect: then, instead of paying Apple $10bn an year and doing iOS development, how about you actually work on some basic Android functionality instead?
Way too long dude.
But I can say I never had a delay on my notifications, especially on Gmail where my phone rings before my laptop for example.
All my apps get notified in time, I can compare with Signal and it's Desktop app.
I really don't know what's the cause but if I can help.
And for you information, all your monologue about iPhone is really too much, especially when some people have the exact same issue.
Just Google iPhone notifications delay and you'll find out.
If you wanna change, just change, We are not kids, nobody is gonna tell you to stay in the Android world if you're not satisfied.
To finish, you maybe make stupid assumptions. I paid an S21U 1500 € because I can, I also have an iPhone 12 Pro from work, and I just never use it because in my tastes, this is a really bad phone to use.
Good thing We use VoIP so I just forward my professional calls now.
Try this with your phone screen off: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.firstrowria.pushnotificationtester
Set the notification to come in at like 240 seconds and lock your phone screen.
If it doesn't come in instantly as scheduled, you have a problem.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Try this with your phone screen off: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.firstrowria.pushnotificationtester
Set the notification to come in at like 240 seconds and lock your phone screen.
If it doesn't come in instantly as scheduled, you have a problem.
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Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
Nat.smith26 said:
Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
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And, your phone was locked for 4-5 minutes but the notification still came through?
If so, please share your battery optimization settings and other stuff.
Screenshots of those settings would be nice.
Nat.smith26 said:
Just tested I have exactly 1 second delay .
But I think he just doesn't care. He just posted to get it out and tell the world he leaves.
As if anybody cares.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
It has the basics right.
It has the low-hanging fruit mastered.
My friend has a Pixel 5 and I have an S21 Ultra 256GB.
And, somehow, I'm frustrated/biased over nothing?
Clearly, I'm in the game but Android is failing us.
I configured the app for 5 min notifications and programmed a countdown of my Google Home to see what was going on.
You won't get anything from my screenshots because I have nothing special.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
It has the basics right.
It has the low-hanging fruit mastered.
My friend has a Pixel 5 and I have an S21 Ultra 256GB.
And, somehow, I'm frustrated/biased over nothing?
Clearly, I'm in the game but Android is failing us.
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Yep the reason is this is an American Company that they are proud of and you can see Apple products everywhere, ads, shows, movies, etc...
That just became a standard.
A few years ago Apple had the same share but with ****ty phones, so...
Today they make good products, but that's still not enough for me.
I can't use a system where censure is normal, they chose to close the doors to every developers they want, they don't follow their own rules, they don't wanna use standards to slow down every tiers development and keep everyone in jail...
This is a biiiiiig discussion, but just like Facebook, I just can't stand their politics.
Most Americans are just blind when it comes to Apple, this is the pride of the nation.
And We don't talk bad about the pride of the Nation.
Nat.smith26 said:
Yep the reason is this is an American Company that they are proud of and you can see Apple products everywhere, ads, shows, movies, etc...
That just became a standard.
A few years ago Apple had the same share but with ****ty phones, so...
Today they make good products, but that's still not enough for me.
I can't use a system where censure is normal, they chose to close the doors to every developers they want, they don't follow their own rules, they don't wanna use standards to slow down every tiers development and keep everyone in jail...
This is a biiiiiig discussion, but just like Facebook, I just can't stand their politics.
Most Americans are just blind when it comes to Apple, this is the pride of the nation.
And We don't talk bad about the pride of the Nation.
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We need anti-trust measures to prevent them from preventing us from installing things on our own phones. That is the only way.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
We need anti-trust measures to prevent them from preventing us from installing things on our own phones. That is the only way.
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USA does not care and EU can't do much because they have less than 20% share in the rest of the world.
The only country they are afraid of is China, so they obey just to make more money and still use their factories.
Nat.smith26 said:
I configured the app for 5 min notifications and programmed a countdown of my Google Home to see what was going on.
You won't get anything from my screenshots because I have nothing special.
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Adaptive battery and put unused apps to sleep are known troublemakers.
Android will manage very well without them.
Any power hogs deal with on an individual case by case basis. Optimize it; flipping a toggle switch isn't optimizing
At the most, simply close that app when done with it. The Brave browser is real bad like that if you don't close it out.
Your results may vary... play with it; WYSIWYG.
As for Apple, it's a closed platform one trick pony and it sucks.
As for Android, you get what you put into it.
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There is a reason why iOS has at least 60% market share in the US.
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Yes, too many people have no imaginanation, want things easy, and have the manufacturer make their decisions for them. Apple and iOS is the go to for such individuals.
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Yes, too many people have no imaginanation, want things easy, and have the manufacturer make their decisions for them. Apple and iOS is the go to for such individuals.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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You're on the wrong forum... no sheep here, we ate them.
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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Well that depends what basics are to you.
To me it's just gonna be able to install any app I want and not being insulted by a closed and proprietary system.
If basics is just messages/calls/Facebook/snapshat just like 70% of the US teenagers then you can buy a 200$ phone for that.
But no, I see my nephew, He needs to get in the club, not to be different of the mass.
But tbh your arguments doesn't apply in the rest of the world, even in European countries where Samsung is still the leader and Chinese brands are hype
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Or, it's because the basics actually work on iPhones.
And, those basics are important to people.
Steve Jobs was right about one thing: The sheep outnumber us.
They use their numbers and money to get a better app experience for themselves.
Developers develop for sheep, not for Android Joes.
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The basics work on Android. Or they do for me at least.
Read into that what you wish.
Well I love android . Really but the notifications delay driving me crazy
I have s21 ultra . Honestly brilliant peace of hardware but with a very problematic bug in the notifications area.
Some apps send notifications without any issues but some apps don't. And when I'm unlock my screen it bombs my device like crazy.
I will try this add solution
Hope it will work for me
sagiag said:
Well I love android . Really but the notifications delay driving me crazy
I have s21 ultra . Honestly brilliant peace of hardware but with a very problematic bug in the notifications area.
Some apps send notifications without any issues but some apps don't. And when I'm unlock my screen it bombs my device like crazy.
I will try this add solution
Hope it will work for me
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Yes, please let me know if this adb solution works for you.
We need to reach out to Samsung and/or Google about this.
nixnixnixnix4 said:
Yes, please let me know if this adb solution works for you.
We need to reach out to Samsung and/or Google about this.
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do you know if device reboot will reset the idle modes ?
or if I done the ads command once it should work forever

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