Resolved: Wouldn't connect to T-Mobile networks, connected fine to AT&T. Guessing it was band limitations. (Should have checked bands.)
Here in California, USA and can't seem to even connect to the 2G/3G services on T-Mobiles networks. Popped in my SIM card last night and got a MetroPCS banner for about a second. Haven't been able to get it to work since. Always no bars, no service. Any tips?
Here's a screenshot of my lack of signal. I seem to get signal for a second, then it just disconnects. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
I bought new xiaomi m5 and straight away got problem with the touchscreen. If anybody had similar problem, will go to the shop to see what they say anyway.
Where did you buy yours? I had mine imported of course.
veladem said:
Where did you buy yours? I had mine imported of course.
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From online shop based in China. Is your working ok?
supremeweb said:
From online shop based in China. Is your working ok?
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Nope, mine won't connect to any GSM network.
veladem said:
Nope, mine won't connect to any GSM network.
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Just a hint: Try your frend sim card, if it doesn't work with that too, I would write to the shop to send back for repair or replace.
Yeah, hasn't worked with any SIM card. They do returns but not repairs/replaces.
What do you get when you dial: *#*#4636#*#*
Maybe you can optimize the settings?
fredisco said:
What do you get when you dial: *#*#4636#*#*
Maybe you can optimize the settings?
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I always get emergency calls only, it reads that there is a SIM card inserted for both slot 1 & 2 plus it reads the phone number of the card AND even contacts on the card but doesn't connect to the network. :/
is that some Quality Assurance issues or a general problem?
Also getting issues with signal, weaker than any other of phones , sometimes drops call, or caller hear me with pause, ( i'm techinician, repairing phones, having a lot of tests), i'm in EU. Because lack of band 20 4g+ isn't working here i think. Overall a lot of people got defective units. Mine also have loudspeaker problems, tryed to calibrate via service menu, still the same.
Got it to work! AT&T works with 3G and HSPA/HSPA+ woo!!
veladem said:
Got it to work! AT&T works with 3G and HSPA/HSPA+ woo!!
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how?
veladem said:
Yeah, hasn't worked with any SIM card. They do returns but not repairs/replaces.
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oh wow! I surprised how bad this brand, will see what I can do it and update here later!
wouwout said:
how?
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Just popped in the AT&T SIM card and I was good to go.
supremeweb said:
oh wow! I surprised how bad this brand, will see what I can do it and update here later!
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Got data to work, guessing the phones doesn't support T-Mobile bands completely.
veladem said:
Nope, mine won't connect to any GSM network.
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this is disappointing
supremeweb said:
this is disappointing
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Sorry, should have updated this thread I'm now in the process of testing speeds in the US.
veladem said:
Sorry, should have updated this thread I'm now in the process of testing speeds in the US.
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Please let us know how it's working on AT&T. I'm on AT&T and am very interested in this phone.
just as a 2nd review....I am in NJ on ATT and works very well.
although, it's a pain to debloat everything everytime I tinker with settings or try to unlock!
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Anyone know If it possible to use a Dual/Ghost SIM adaptor in the HD2?
Good question, I might be interested too...
Hypercard 3G
Hypercard 3G
This one works for me ...
http://www.hypercard3g.com/
froestel said:
Hypercard 3G
This one works for me ...
http://www.hypercard3g.com/
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Thanks froestel
Any problems fitting the dual Sim into the HD2?
I would prefer the option of using the full size SIM cards in an adaptor if possible instead of cutting them down
No for me no problems.
This adapter can also UMTS.
GSM adapter is also available, where you must not cut the SIM.
I hope my bad English is understandable ...
froestel said:
No for me no problems.
This adapter can also UMTS.
GSM adapter is also available, where you must not cut the SIM.
I hope my bad English is understandable ...
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Your English is Fine froestel, do you have a link to the GSM adaptor which uses the full size SIM card please?
Anyone know if this will work with any of the Irish networks? I tried a similar card a few months ago on Meteor and 3 Ireland but none of my Irish Sims worked but all my Dutch ones did though (Vodafone,T-Mobile)
the only issue with Hypercard 3G, is that u need to cutdown ur SIM
how does it work?
Hello,
can someone explain to me how this works?
can I get calls on both numbers?
witch of the two is the active one and the one I call from?
Or is it a soft switch so that I can only use one sim at the time?
Sorry for the questions but I could not find the answers...
/J
thorner said:
Hello,
can someone explain to me how this works?
can I get calls on both numbers?
witch of the two is the active one and the one I call from?
Or is it a soft switch so that I can only use one sim at the time?
Sorry for the questions but I could not find the answers...
/J
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there is only one sim active, and you can switch between them.
regards
Thank you
I search for it long time
Anyone use SIMORE Platium?
Does it work?
Thank you
Does HiperCard 3G support HSDPA? or only UMTS?
danielherrero said:
Does HiperCard 3G support HSDPA? or only UMTS?
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Well, it supports HSDPA but I have a problem switching between SIMs.
As soon as I choose the second SIM in the Hypercard menu, the "select" button (left softkey) disappears.
Joerg
what about the battery drain with the Hypercard 3G, perhaps someone can write his experiences?
Thank you!
JLowe said:
what about the battery drain with the Hypercard 3G, perhaps someone can write his experiences?
Thank you!
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Hi,
I don't realize any battery drain. Under normal circumstances, my battery lasts for 1 1/2 - 2 days.
Joerg
Thank you for your information!
bR00k said:
there is only one sim active, and you can switch between them.
regards
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it would be nice if there is anything like
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/.../SGH-D880LKSFMG/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail
where both numbers are online all time...
Simore works.
suennam said:
Thank you
I search for it long time
Anyone use SIMORE Platium?
Does it work?
Thank you
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Using Simore with Smartone and China Mobile.
It works.
jakomimi said:
it would be nice if there is anything like
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/.../SGH-D880LKSFMG/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail
where both numbers are online all time...
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It's hardware. As far as I remember, that phone has 2 GSM antennas built in
suennam said:
Thank you
I search for it long time
Anyone use SIMORE Platium?
Does it work?
Thank you
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I used Simore for a previous phone. I will NEVER buy anything from them again. The adapter didn't work and when their tech support ran out of ideas (and when I asked for a refund) they just ignored me after that.
Disgusting customer service!
Hi All,
I am using two Units of HTC One Developer Editions. With one handset the problem is it's connecting to 2G network. 3G works fine. I tried with MTNL sim and it worked and after that my first SIM which was not connecting to 2G also worked and after couple of hours situation came back and now the unit is only working with 3G network. Is there anyone else facing the same problem ??:crying:
Does anyone have any solution for this ??
Regards,
Mahesh
EDIT : After Doing S-OFF , now my handset it connecting to both the networks i.e. 2G and 3G
Thanks Moonlight Team ReOne Team
Mod's Please CLOSE this thread !! Thanks Everyone !!
mahesh_9j said:
Hi All,
I am using two Units of HTC One Developer Editions. With one handset the problem is it's connecting to 2G network. 3G works fine. I tried with MTNL sim and it worked and after that my first SIM which was not connecting to 2G also worked and after couple of hours situation came back and now the unit is only working with 3G network. Is there anyone else facing the same problem ??:crying:
Does anyone have any solution for this ??
Regards,
Mahesh
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I'm sorry to hear this, why would you want to use high end phones on 2G network, no offense at all. Just curious
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andyt315 said:
I'm sorry to hear this, why would you want to use high end phones on 2G network, no offense at all. Just curious
Sent from my HTC One
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because In india there are some places where we do not have 3G connectivity..
It might just be wonky signal in your area for 2G.
Also if you are using hand cut old sim, just get it changed to proper micro sim from MTNL. I had similar issues with SGS4 and MTNL Mumbai sim until I changed the sim card itself. Hard to explain but it solved my issue. It was very old sim which I cut using sim cutter.
Not facing any issue with 2G signal at all. There are areas in certain areas where I have to go (mainly basement) where there is no 3G and 2G works just fine on EDGE.
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It might just be wonky signal in your area for 2G.
Also if you are using hand cut old sim, just get it changed to proper micro sim from MTNL. I had similar issues with SGS4 and MTNL Mumbai sim until I changed the sim card itself. Hard to explain but it solved my issue. It was very old sim which I cut using sim cutter.
Not facing any issue with 2G signal at all. There are areas in certain areas where I have to go (mainly basement) where there is no 3G and 2G works just fine on EDGE.
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So you mean to say there is no problem with the handset, cos it worked with MTNL. ??
But it's not working with MTNL and Airtel.....and yes Airtel SIM is very old i mean it's around 3 years old sim.
Thanks !!
The sim card issues in cases of cut sim cards is well documented to be honest. No matter how well we cut it, sometimes they just dont work right on these newer phones. Over last 1 year I had to get new micro sim for most of my and my family member's numbers as one fine day the cut sim will simply not catch network and then realised the common problem with them all. All of them were cut either using micro sim template by hand or using sim cutters. After getting proper micro sim, the problem went away. This is not specific to One but happens with lot of new phones that require micro sim including Nexus 4, SGS4 and Nexus 7 3G tablets.
Funkym0nkey said:
The sim card issues in cases of cut sim cards is well documented to be honest. No matter how well we cut it, sometimes they just dont work right on these newer phones. Over last 1 year I had to get new micro sim for most of my and my family member's numbers as one fine day the cut sim will simply not catch network and then realised the common problem with them all. All of them were cut either using micro sim template by hand or using sim cutters. After getting proper micro sim, the problem went away. This is not specific to One but happens with lot of new phones that require micro sim including Nexus 4, SGS4 and Nexus 7 3G tablets.
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OK, just posted the issues of micro sim on airte's wall on FB. They replied that they are going to contact me for micro sim. Thanks for your advice.
Regards,
mahesh_9j said:
Hi All,
I am using two Units of HTC One Developer Editions. With one handset the problem is it's connecting to 2G network. 3G works fine. I tried with MTNL sim and it worked and after that my first SIM which was not connecting to 2G also worked and after couple of hours situation came back and now the unit is only working with 3G network. Is there anyone else facing the same problem ??:crying:
Does anyone have any solution for this ??
Regards,
Mahesh
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2G and 3G both are working awesome on my DEVELOPERS EDITION... without any prob...
i hv tried aircel, airtel, bsnl and tata docomo... all of them are fine...
check your settings or try with another comapny first...
Mine is not connecting to any network . I have the 32gb UNLOCKED one too
I have a 32GB one. I don't know if its a handset problem or network problem
x017in said:
Mine is not connecting to any network . I have the 32gb UNLOCKED one too
I have a 32GB one. I don't know if its a handset problem or network problem
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I have a 32 GB unlocked. And it works fine on Idea and BSNL (2G/3G).
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Mine is not connecting to any network . I have the 32gb UNLOCKED one too
I have a 32GB one. I don't know if its a handset problem or network problem
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is your handset searches the available networks ??
Nope. Doesn't show any network.
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Nope. Doesn't show any network.
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Hmm..in that it might be a problem with phone....try to visit service center and tell them the problem and see what they have to say about this.
Do share your experience here.
Thanks !!
x017in said:
Mine is not connecting to any network . I have the 32gb UNLOCKED one too
I have a 32GB one. I don't know if its a handset problem or network problem
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Have u tried any other SIM card with ur phone? Might be a sim issue.
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Tried airtel an voda sims. Same issue.
Went to service center. They are as bad as Apple. Refuse to look at non Indian handsets.
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x017in said:
Tried airtel an voda sims. Same issue.
Went to service center. They are as bad as Apple. Refuse to look at non Indian handsets.
Sent from my GT-I9500
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Did you told them that it's a Dev Edition..? or they checked it and then refused..?
x017in said:
Tried airtel an voda sims. Same issue.
Went to service center. They are as bad as Apple. Refuse to look at non Indian handsets.
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Oh god! That's too bad, won't they repair it for some cost?
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Service center is not ready to check the handset. Crazy chaps.
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Told them its a dev edition. The person was trying to educate me saying I shud simunlock it.. !!
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Service center is not ready to check the handset. Crazy chaps.
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Told them its a dev edition. The person was trying to educate me saying I shud simunlock it.. !!
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He might don't know about Unlocked Dev Edition... poor guy.
Flashed Stock RUU. Phone started working. Yippee
Question....I bought my Nexus 6 from Verizon, rooted it, did the whole OEM Unlock....
I'm flying to Europe (Germany, Austria, Italy, and Greece) in 40 days to visit family, and Verizon's International Rates are ridiculous. My brother told me about http://www.knowroaming.com/, but on the site it states that you must have an Unlocked GSM phone. Would this still work on the Nexus 6? The other option I have is using a T-Mo SIM card in Europe since my brother works for them and he said he could simply give me one.
I guess my question...in order of what's best:
1: The KnowRoaming SIM option
2: T-Mo SIM
I'll have access to WiFi all over Germany and Austria, but will depend more on the Mobile Web in Italy and Greece. I'll use Google Hangouts to chat with my family in the U.S. while I'm abroad, but still need access to make calls in an emergency.
All Nexus 6 are unlocked GSM.
Ok, that's what I thought....I just know that Verizon is KNOWN for mucking stuff up and locking things down, so I wasn't sure.
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Ok, that's what I thought....I just know that Verizon is KNOWN for mucking stuff up and locking things down, so I wasn't sure.
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They are indeed, however the Nexus 6 from them is untouched in regards to bootloaders and hardware - so it's the same as every other
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All Nexus 6 are unlocked GSM.
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Except the AT&T variant. The AT&T carrier lock is "unlockable" after the device has been paid off.
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Except the AT&T variant. The AT&T carrier lock is "unlockable" after the device has been paid off.
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Thanks for confirming that. I even knew that once
Well, leaving in less than 2 weeks. My brother has a T-Mo SIM card for me with 10GB of data. I don't need Voice since I'll call home to the U.S. using WiFi from his house in the evenings and in an emergency I can use his phone to call home if we're not near WiFi. Hopefully the T-Mo SIM is recognized without any hiccups.
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Well, leaving in less than 2 weeks. My brother has a T-Mo SIM card for me with 10GB of data. I don't need Voice since I'll call home to the U.S. using WiFi from his house in the evenings and in an emergency I can use his phone to call home if we're not near WiFi. Hopefully the T-Mo SIM is recognized without any hiccups.
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You may only have to change the APN settings but it will work as long as it is activated.
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You may only have to change the APN settings but it will work as long as it is activated.
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Yes, that's what I thought. My brother actually works for T-Mo and has the proper APN Info for me so we can enter it as soon as I touch down in Munich. I've also decided to leave my DSLR at home and use the Nexus as my only Camera while I'm out there.
Just wondering if possible?
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Just wondering if possible?
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You should not need to, as all Verizon phones are already unlocked. You just won't get lte on other networks
Snowby123 said:
You should not need to, as all Verizon phones are already unlocked. You just won't get lte on other networks
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I realized that once I popped in the sims, but weird thing yesterday I had 4g connection and today I don't after a reboot.
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I realized that once I popped in the sims, but weird thing yesterday I had 4g connection and today I don't after a reboot.
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You just corroborated what I just said.
The fastest network speeds you will get are 3G HSPA+
Snowby123 said:
You just corroborated what I just said.
The fastest network speeds you will get are 3G HSPA+
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Yesterday I had 4g until this morning I rebooted.
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Yesterday I had 4g until this morning I rebooted.
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I find it extroardinary you were able to even temporarily get a 4G signal.
That said, you could try changing your APN settings. Here is a link to an article explaining how.
http://www.androidcentral.com/what-apn-and-how-do-i-change-it
Is anyone using this phone on a UK carrier without any mods at all?
This is the KT branded/unlocked version gifted to athletes.
I don’t care about WiFi calling, just wondering if it will work well on any UK carrier without my having to do anything to it.
Thanks....
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Is anyone using this phone on a UK carrier without any mods at all?
This is the KT branded/unlocked version gifted to athletes.
I don’t care about WiFi calling, just wondering if it will work well on any UK carrier without my having to do anything to it.
Thanks....
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It should be fine if the basebands match.
Find the baseband of the network you want to use, (so for 3g I need baseband 2100 and for 4g I need 900)
In the link below you can then compare it to your model (I will assume its the same as the U version despite the KT)
If the baseband matches for 3g you will only get 3g or visa versa. Hopefully they will match for both 3 and 4g.
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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It should be fine if the basebands match.
Find the baseband of the network you want to use, (so for 3g I need baseband 2100 and for 4g I need 900)
In the link below you can then compare it to your model (I will assume its the same as the U version despite the KT)
If the baseband matches for 3g you will only get 3g or visa versa. Hopefully they will match for both 3 and 4g.
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Thanks for your reply.
On paper, this phone has all the necessary bands to work on TMobile USA but a test at one of their stores with an active SIM didn't have good results. Although the phone displayed LTE, outgoing calls took between 40 and 60 seconds to initiate dialing out, and SMS texts would not go out at all (or if they went out, they didn't arrive at destination phone).
I travel frequently to the UK so I was just hoping that this phone would work out of the box with a UK SIM with no need for mods....
How did you get this phone? I want one so bad.. the colors are so cool
justinxfan said:
How did you get this phone? I want one so bad.. the colors are so cool
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I acquired it directly from an athlete.
I hope to make it work. If not, It may soon be available... (I hope it’s not against the rules to say that).
Seeing as the N950N is GSM device, you should have no issues using it with any UK cell provider.
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Seeing as the N950N is GSM device, you should have no issues using it with any UK cell provider.
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Thanks, that would be my hope, though it didn’t bear out for TMobile USA, which is also a GSM network.
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Thanks, that would be my hope, though it didn’t bear out for TMobile USA, which is also a GSM network.
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You would need to contact T-Mobile or visit their retail branch and have them add your devices IMEI# on their network. For some strange reason some networks require that...
It should work in the UK no problem. Go-to thr Samsung website and it shows all the bands for your specific model (950N) and cross reference it with the ones used in the UK. I think you'll find it's all there. No need to over think it.
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It should work in the UK no problem. Go-to thr Samsung website and it shows all the bands for your specific model (950N) and cross reference it with the ones used in the UK. I think you'll find it's all there. No need to over think it.
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Thanks. For some reason, although Tmobile USA has all of the required bands, this phone will not work properly on their network without mods.
The purpose of this thread was to hopefully get confirmation from anyone who is actually using an N950N on a UK network without mods.
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I acquired it directly from an athlete.
I hope to make it work. If not, It may soon be available... (I hope it’s not against the rules to say that).
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Thanks. For some reason, although Tmobile USA has all of the required bands, this phone will not work properly on their network without mods.
The purpose of this thread was to hopefully get confirmation from anyone who is actually using an N950N on a UK network without mods.
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I am using the same Olympic Edition phone in the UK no problem at all. I had to reset my network in order to get LTE working though. I was actually thinking of selling mine, but I decided to keep it and I absolutely love it and sold my iPhone instead!
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I am using the same Olympic Edition phone in the UK no problem at all. I had to reset my network in order to get LTE working though. I was actually thinking of selling mine, but I decided to keep it and I absolutely love it and sold my iPhone instead!
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Thank you, that is good to know. Which UK carrier are you using? I have a Vodafone UK sim, but if it doesn't work on that, I'll get a different one.
And what do you mean exactly by "I had to reset my network".... ?
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Thank you, that is good to know. Which UK carrier are you using? I have a Vodafone UK sim, but if it doesn't work on that, I'll get a different one.
And what do you mean exactly by "I had to reset my network".... ?
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I'm on EE but I haven't tried any other carrier, but I'm sure it would work the same.
What I meant by reset my network, go to settings - general management - reset - reset network settings and then I just reset my network that way and I got the LTE working that way. Let me know if this works for you on Vodafone
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I'm on EE but I haven't tried any other carrier, but I'm sure it would work the same.
What I meant by reset my network, go to settings - general management - reset - reset network settings and then I just reset my network that way and I got the LTE working that way. Let me know if this works for you on Vodafone
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Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.
rljuss said:
Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.
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Ok great! Good luck, you will love the phone, I know I do! I just saw a teammate last night who was in Korea also, and he loves the phone as well! Let me know if that works!
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Thank you. I will arrive in the UK tomorrow morning (Sat 21 July) and see how it works with Vodafone. I'll let you know.
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Is it working ok for you? Also I have a question, what software version are you on? I'm on the Oreo update but still on the April patch? I am trying to see if anyone has a newer software patch that they have got. I find it strange that I haven't had any updates in 3 months.
Hi. I arrived in London on Sat 7/21... phone would only receive 2G (phone displayed E) and occasionally 3G. I stopped by Vodafone shop and they confirmed all settings were correct. I went across the street to EE and tried one of their sims, strong 3G but nothing better. As I was going to Cardiff for a few days, I used the Microsoft 950XL that I have which receives 4G and better (often displays 4G+).
Not sure what the next step is...
Regarding updates, the last one I got installed Oreo 8.0.0 and Samsung Experience 9.0 on May 24, 2018. Last security patch date is April 1, 2018.
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Hi. I arrived in London on Sat 7/21... phone would only receive 2G (phone displayed E) and occasionally 3G. I stopped by Vodafone shop and they confirmed all settings were correct. I went across the street to EE and tried one of their sims, strong 3G but nothing better. As I was going to Cardiff for a few days, I used the Microsoft 950XL that I have which receives 4G and better (often displays 4G+).
Not sure what the next step is...
Regarding updates, the last one I got installed Oreo 8.0.0 and Samsung Experience 9.0 on May 24, 2018. Last security patch date is April 1, 2018.
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Have you tried the reset network with the Sim in now you are in the UK? That sounds like what happened to me, would only get 3g until I would reset the network with the Sim in. I once tried to put in another Sim and when I put my EE Sim back in I had to reset the network again. I'm even in Germany now for the past week and I get LTE here as well.
Ok thanks, we are on the same security patch. But I would think that we would get updates that are newer than that. On Reddit people are already talking about getting thier July updates, while we are still on the April update.