Standby drain - Xperia Z5 Real Life Review

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Sony Xperia Z5's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Battery drain rating on Sony's Stock ROM is only average (0.7-1% per hour in Airplane Mode), no matter if (unrooted) Stock ROM or with Custom Kernel; 0.5% at best with gauge tweaks and other modifications;
AOSP/CM ROM appears to be excellent - 1% per several hours;
doesn't come close to my Note 3 (a few per cents per day) or even my Galaxy S1 with the original battery (2-3% per day), but that's no disadvantage of the Z5 per se
battery's technology simply wasn't allowed to catch up with progress yet

Something keeps my device awaken - not sure what this could be, as the Wakelock Detector and other apps that can show culprits require root to run on Android versions from KitKat and above. This causes battery drain when the phone is not in use overnight. Does anyone else have similiar issue?

jontr said:
Something keeps my device awaken - not sure what this could be, as the Wakelock Detector and other apps that can show culprits require root to run on Android versions from KitKat and above. This causes battery drain when the phone is not in use overnight. Does anyone else have similiar issue?
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it's most likely something else
or part of the kernel or deep within the system,
because blocking wakelocks does hardly have any effect

I find my standby drain to be terrible. I can leave my phone in my pocket, with all background app closed down and it still somehow looses 30% in about an hour.

You keep breathing while sleeping

I use GSAM Battery Monitor to keep an eye on things. After a few weeks I'm happy enough with battery drain levels.
It mostly depends on phone signal; if I'm at home the signal is very weak and this can drive the standby drain up to nearly 10% an hour, and the phone can get warm. But if it has better phone signal then the drain can be as low as 2% or 3% per hour.
I have my phone set to turn off wifi when screen is off. I also use a Notification area weather app, Messenger, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, etc and I have a number of email accounts and calendars syncing regularly so I would say I'm not running things in a lean manner. I'm sure if I uninstalled most of these apps my standby time would be spectacular, but then I wouldn't be getting particularly good use out of my smartphone.

wheresmybeaver said:
I use GSAM Battery Monitor to keep an eye on things. After a few weeks I'm happy enough with battery drain levels.
It mostly depends on phone signal; if I'm at home the signal is very weak and this can drive the standby drain up to nearly 10% an hour, and the phone can get warm. But if it has better phone signal then the drain can be as low as 2% or 3% per hour.
I have my phone set to turn off wifi when screen is off. I also use a Notification area weather app, Messenger, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, etc and I have a number of email accounts and calendars syncing regularly so I would say I'm not running things in a lean manner. I'm sure if I uninstalled most of these apps my standby time would be spectacular, but then I wouldn't be getting particularly good use out of my smartphone.
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Hey, how do you turn wifi or even data off? Using stamina but how exactly?
Much appreciated
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OfficialTEC said:
I find my standby drain to be terrible. I can leave my phone in my pocket, with all background app closed down and it still somehow looses 30% in about an hour.
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Have you tried with BREVENT APP together with an aggresive Doze app (Greenify, ForceDoze, NaptimeX)? I´ve now installed Brevent + Greenify and standby during night from 100% "only" takes me 0,5% per hour more or less.
Also inside Brevent you have possibility to access to AppOps (be careful with this option).

I found that Bluetooth was causing massive drain on my phone. The fix which worked for me without turning off bluetooth (I like it to auto connect when I get in the car) was Settings->Location, then click the 3 dots menu in the top right and then Scanning, turn off Bluetooth Scanning. There are a few other things you can do as well.

TfcIan said:
I found that Bluetooth was causing massive drain on my phone. The fix which worked for me without turning off bluetooth (I like it to auto connect when I get in the car) was Settings->Location, then click the 3 dots menu in the top right and then Scanning, turn off Bluetooth Scanning. There are a few other things you can do as well.
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What else things do you mean?

After z5 becomes it can drain upto 30% per hour

standby drain is decent here, using mx rom

seilent said:
standby drain is decent here, using mx rom
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you have 96%, that prediction is BS, never the prediction come true.
I charge the phone 100%, tell me it going to last 12hours and go to sleep for ~7 hours and the battery is less than 30%.
the overheat over time killed the battery.

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Help with Battery Life

Hi guys, I'm worried about the battery life of my HTC One.
When the phone is on lock mode, meaning screen is off, within one hour battery can go down from 1-3%. Power saver is on, brightness is auto. And 4G/LTE is on.
Also, I only play around with my settings, checking out GSAM battery monitor, within 15 minutes battery can go down 1-2%.
Now it's been 6 hours 22 minutes since I unplugged from charger, battery level is 74%.
Is it normal?
Thanks.
Gsam should be able to tell you where your battery is being used and what app. Look at what the offending app is (most likely Google maps and Google+ or facebook) and use an app like greenify to hibernate them when not in use.
Sent from my HTC One
Check with betterbatterystats app to see if anything is keeping it awake at
Aetherion90 said:
Hi guys, I'm worried about the battery life of my HTC One.
When the phone is on lock mode, meaning screen is off, within one hour battery can go down from 1-3%. Power saver is on, brightness is auto. And 4G/LTE is on.
Also, I only play around with my settings, checking out GSAM battery monitor, within 15 minutes battery can go down 1-2%.
Now it's been 6 hours 22 minutes since I unplugged from charger, battery level is 74%.
Is it normal?
Thanks.
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You do realize that the phone is still doing stuff when the screen is off, yes? Syncing e-mails/facebook/news stories, communicating the the network, etc. Even if the phone were completely off, lithium-ion batteries will still deplete(albeit very, very slowly) over time. 1-3% loss in an hour is pretty normal in standby. If you're really concerned about it, you can check out an app called BetterBatteryStats and it'll show you what's waking your phone up from sleep and/or preventing it from sleeping to help identify apps whos sync settings are too aggressive.
Your battery has depleted 26% in 6hrs 22minutes... you're losing roughly 4.08% per hour, at that rate it would take you ~24.5hrs to deplete the battery. Battery depletion is, can be, and should be accelerated when you're using the phone, so 1-2% within 15minutes while looking at a battery monitor... yeah. The more stuff you do with your phone, the sooner the battery will run out.
TL;DR: your battery life is fine.
unremarked said:
You do realize that the phone is still doing stuff when the screen is off, yes? Syncing e-mails/facebook/news stories, communicating the the network, etc. Even if the phone were completely off, lithium-ion batteries will still deplete(albeit very, very slowly) over time. 1-3% loss in an hour is pretty normal in standby. If you're really concerned about it, you can check out an app called BetterBatteryStats and it'll show you what's waking your phone up from sleep and/or preventing it from sleeping to help identify apps whos sync settings are too aggressive.
Your battery has depleted 26% in 6hrs 22minutes... you're losing roughly 4.08% per hour, at that rate it would take you ~24.5hrs to deplete the battery. Battery depletion is, can be, and should be accelerated when you're using the phone, so 1-2% within 15minutes while looking at a battery monitor... yeah. The more stuff you do with your phone, the sooner the battery will run out.
TL;DR: your battery life is fine.
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Thanks for the info. However I noticed in some threads that for certain people, their HTC One can last for 1 days 9 hours. For example:
johnbrighton said:
I'm guessing you're a heavy user!
What apps to you have installed? how many apps to you have?
My phone lasted 1 day and 9hrs on one charge with moderate internet use, txt messaging, phone calls - and that was without power saving mode enabled.
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Aetherion90 said:
Thanks for the info. However I noticed in some threads that for certain people, their HTC One can last for 1 days 9 hours. For example:
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It's going to be very difficult for you to replicate the results of someone else(and we are lacking a ton of information from that post--is he running a custom rom, custom kernel, are screen off/on profiles being used, what apps are syncing, how often, how many, etc).
Beyond usage, phones can vary greatly from within the same model based on the manufacturing process/location/materials. For instance, there's a thread in the General Section exploring the differences in various HTC One's screen maximum screen brightness. Even down the chemistry of the batteries themselves. I know from personal experience that one of the biggest impacts on battery life can be how strong of a signal you're receiving from your carrier. If you life/work in a low signal area, the phone will increase power to the antennae to maintain the connection whereas if you're in a good signal area, it doesn't have to work as hard.
Anyone use GSAM Battery Monitor app? Why does the battery usage % doesn't add up to 100% when you add it with the remaining battery % sometime?
Yesterday it's still fine. But today my battery usage % + remaining battery % only add up to 93%.
Aetherion90 said:
Anyone use GSAM Battery Monitor app? Why does the battery usage % doesn't add up to 100% when you add it with the remaining battery % sometime?
Yesterday it's still fine. But today my battery usage % + remaining battery % only add up to 93%.
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Most people use that app. I'm not sure why it isn't working 100%. Did you plug your phone in for a very short amount of time? That might make errors. After you charge it overnight everything should be fine. Try using it for another day.
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In GSAM Battery Monitor, my App Usage is always the highest contributor to battery usage, usually around 85%-90%. Screen is only 10.8%.
When I dig deeper into the App Usage, Kernel (Android OS) 23.8%, and Android System 15.7% are the top 2.
Is it normal?
Do you have Auto Sync turned on?
ArmedandDangerous said:
Do you have Auto Sync turned on?
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If you are referring to Facebook, email, and such, then yes Auto Sync is on. So Auto Sync is included in Kernel or Android System?
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If you are referring to Facebook, email, and such, then yes Auto Sync is on. So Auto Sync is included in Kernel or Android System?
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It's a standard Android feature. Auto Sync drains a ton of battery
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It's a standard Android feature. Auto Sync drains a ton of battery
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So for those who can get 5 hours+ screen on time, meaning auto sync is turned off?
Btw, do you know what is AsyncCollectorListener wakelocks that come from Maps? It also contributes to high partial wakelocks percentage most of the time.

How to tackle my Z3C battery drain issues?? I'm fed up

I'm fed up a bit for my Z3 C battery life. This is my second query regarding battery life.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
My phone settings-
Always turned off my wifi/ bt/ nfc/ gps/ location tracking/ autoupdates etc. & everything you can think and suggest.
Use only stock custom wallpaper and no live stuff. No widgets. No sd card inserted. With only two hoemscreen wih just 2 shortcuts on each screen.
Have disabled apps which I dont use.
Stopped services of apps which are no longer needed.
No auto sync enabled for any app.
Display brightness is at 30% all times.
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I use only these 3rd party apps-
Status bar mini
Network monitor mini
Whatsapp
Greenify
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My daily Z3 routine-
At night while going to sleep I turn off mobile data, turn on airplane mode and turn on stamina mode. (12:30am - 9:30am)
When I wake up the next day battery is down by 4-5%.
During day, phone runs in normal mode without any stamina activated. (10am - 12:30am)
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The Low-battery mode seems useless as it does literally nothing.
Also, as soon as the battery is 100% charged and if I use phone for even 5 mins the battery immediately drops to 99%, so is this normal??
Even if I capture 5 photos in stock auto mode the battery drops by 1% or 2.
I reboot my phone once a week or in 10 days or when need arises.
Ram utilised is always 1gb. But I dont feel any slowness for any app or my phone usage.
But again I dont watch any movies or play games fearing my battery will deplete in no time.
I use 2G/edge network as 3G isnt available for my operator in the city I reside.
Charging the phone to 100% from 14% takes 3 to 3.5 hours.
I have already repaired my phone using Sony pc companion and also did a factory reset as well but this issue has been haunting me every now and then.
Sony center says the battery doesnt need any replacement as its still healthy and so is my device.
The phones service menu also reports battery status as Good.
I dont know when is Lollipop gonna be out for Z3 but I fear updating to Lollipop as it may pose more issues than doing any good apart from usual gui tweaks & updates.
But just wish that lollipop brings in more relief to Z3 batteries.
It would be better if you also posted some screenshots with your battery usage.
Does keeping Mobile data and Whatsapp running ON even in standby mode drains the battery??
I usually get just 1 or 2 whatsapp messages in an hour or two.
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EVERYTHING drains battery, literally everything. If your volume is on max it also drains more then when your volume is very low. (Just an example)
There is a controversy when it comes to WiFi vs 3G which drains more.
In the end I think that it depends on the coverage. For me 3G/4G drains my battery less then my WiFi due to the poor WiFi reception.
That your phone loses about 5% over night really isn't THAT bad, what I do before I go to bed is "Close all" to close all the aps running in the background (It won't terminate WhatsApp's service) and I let Greenify hibernate all programs that I selected.
There was also a talk about charging your phone to 100% vs 99% the first percentage drains fast for everyone so that's why it's maybe better to only charge it till 99%.
With screenshots of your battery usage we could help you more, but as far as I can see there is nothing wrong with your battery.
If you're rooted, try BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the drain.
Dsteppa said:
It would be better if you also posted some screenshots with your battery usage.
EVERYTHING drains battery, literally everything. If your volume is on max it also drains more then when your volume is very low. (Just an example)
There is a controversy when it comes to WiFi vs 3G which drains more.
In the end I think that it depends on the coverage. For me 3G/4G drains my battery less then my WiFi due to the poor WiFi reception.
That your phone loses about 5% over night really isn't THAT bad, what I do before I go to bed is "Close all" to close all the aps running in the background (It won't terminate WhatsApp's service) and I let Greenify hibernate all programs that I selected.
There was also a talk about charging your phone to 100% vs 99% the first percentage drains fast for everyone so that's why it's maybe better to only charge it till 99%.
With screenshots of your battery usage we could help you more, but as far as I can see there is nothing wrong with your battery.
If you're rooted, try BetterBatteryStats to pinpoint the drain.
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Well my device isnt rooted nor I use any wifi.
And also I use Greenify to shutdown all apps before sleeping and also I do manual force stop for many other apps as well.

Battery drain over night

Hello, I'm new here. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and I'm impressed with this device already.
My question is if it's normal that battery drains around 4 or 5 % over night. I always turn off data, wifi, put it on airplane mode. I also disabled active display, the camera gesture thing and the voice commands.
I think it should be 0% drain :/
Kustaa said:
Hello, I'm new here. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and I'm impressed with this device already.
My question is if it's normal that battery drains around 4 or 5 % over night. I always turn off data, wifi, put it on airplane mode. I also disabled active display, the camera gesture thing and the voice commands.
I think it should be 0% drain :/
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Zero drain is pretty much impossible unless you turn it off or own an old school Nokia
Kustaa said:
Hello, I'm new here. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and I'm impressed with this device already.
My question is if it's normal that battery drains around 4 or 5 % over night. I always turn off data, wifi, put it on airplane mode. I also disabled active display, the camera gesture thing and the voice commands.
I think it should be 0% drain :/
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(Guessing 8 hours of sleep.) .5-.6 % per hour is great for this phone.
With data (not wifi), active display, gestures and voice commands turned on, plus a few root level changes like greenify, xposed amplify and freezing apps, I achieve around 1 % per hour at idle on stock 4.4.4. This usually equates to around 3 days standby and 1.5 hours of screen time for me.
(I am now testing lollipop... I'm at 1.5 days with 1.5 hours screen time, longer than normal talk time and 30% battery remaining.)
I don't even make it to a day lol. Usually I've to charge at night and then around 7 pm
Here is my sleep running r12 kernel. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59527748&postcount=811 And I don't turn on airplane mode or anything. That is just screen off.
Same problem here (Android 4.4.4, rooted).
Battery drain in flight mode (additionally also tried Moto Voice off, Active Display off, Data off, GPS off without any positive effects) is nearly the same as over the day when using the phone.
The fact that "Stand by" has 25% of all battery usage is a little bit perverted
I'm really happy with Moto X' battery consumption over the day. Normally I have to charge it every second night. But putting to flight mode at 56% when going to sleep and not charging it and finding it at 40% the next morning is kind of frustrating
Install Bettery Guru from Qualcomm, from play store if you run 4.4.x or download the apk from somewhere if you run 5.1+. It will help you reduce the standby drain.
liveroy said:
Install Bettery Guru from Quallcom, from play store if you run 4.4.x or download the apk from somewhere if you run 5.1+. It will help you reduce the standby drain.
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Hmm...doesn't seem to do anything more that I and Tasker do: Deactivate WLAN, Data & Co.
But okay...I'll try that out
From my experience the Motorola SoC has a abnormal high Standby battery drain. You can try whatever you want but you will not get below a certain level like on other phones. Perhaps the contextual cores are never turned off no matter if you use the feature or not, i don't know. At least it gets me trough a day...
Kiristiba said:
From my experience the Motorola SoC has a abnormal high Standby battery drain. You can try whatever you want but you will not get below a certain level like on other phones. Perhaps the contextual cores are never turned off no matter if you use the feature or not, i don't know. At least it gets me trough a day...
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Not really, check the screenshot below. For 10hrs ide, it drained 2-3% witch is perfectly normal.
1 square = 1hr

Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Moto Z Force's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
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Drained like crazy
Got my Z Force yesterday and decided to test standby over night. What I got was 25% drain from 100 in 8 hours. The standby drain was cell standby. I'm hoping it will settle down but that's not good.
sonofevil77 said:
Got my Z Force yesterday and decided to test standby over night. What I got was 25% drain from 100 in 8 hours. The standby drain was cell standby. I'm hoping it will settle down but that's not good.
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My cell standby is very low. Hopefully yours settles down.
Mine is very low as well. Even with low signal, I'm only dropping 30% or so throughout the course of a day with mild use.
Im getting around 5% drain while sleeping. Typically 5 hours a night so roughly 1% an hour
Be sure to turn wifi scanning off in "Location" - it appears to really drain and can end up keeping your phone awake. My first few days I had really bad drain but turning that off and some days with and without the mod and it has really settled.
Also be sure to close all your apps...that does make a difference as well.
5% drain here too. Approx 7 hours sleep. WiFi and cell active, with nothing deactivated.
Set your phone to disable WiFi when sleeping:
Settings -> WiFi -> Advanced "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" = "Only When Plugged In"
I was experiencing similar drain overnight (approx 20%) and this brought it down to about 3%
You can also selectively disable mobile data usage for apps in the background using the application manager. Recommend doing this for anything that might be a data hog or that you really don't want updating when your phone is asleep (e.g. twitter or other social media apps, if you don't care about notifications):
App Info -> App Data Usage -> Restrict App Background Data ON
These settings made a huge difference for me. Most apps are conservative about mobile data use by default (e.g. spotify isn't going to sync huge things over mobile while your phone is sleeping) -- I haven't noticed any particular increase in data use since doing this, but the battery savings is remarkable. Wifi is a big power drain.
Something causes the phone to not go to sleep sometimes. I have Greenify set up with Doze on the Go turned on. After a while, the sleep function just stops working and the phone has to be rebooted to get it to go back into the sleep mode. Haven't been able to figure this one out. Root would help us here.
Periodic rebooting does seem to help with standby drain.
Coming from an S7e, this phone is tops in this regard. Overnight I lose 10% at most. Almost always at 50%+ after work (7a-5p). Lenovo/Moto did it again! Just as happy as I was with the Turbo. Plus the chop chop works so much better, only ~5% fail rate. Fingerprint reader is much more useful than I ever imagined.
jamtre said:
Set your phone to disable WiFi when sleeping:
Settings -> WiFi -> Advanced "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep" = "Only When Plugged In"
I was experiencing similar drain overnight (approx 20%) and this brought it down to about 3%
You can also selectively disable mobile data usage for apps in the background using the application manager. Recommend doing this for anything that might be a data hog or that you really don't want updating when your phone is asleep (e.g. twitter or other social media apps, if you don't care about notifications):
App Info -> App Data Usage -> Restrict App Background Data ON
These settings made a huge difference for me. Most apps are conservative about mobile data use by default (e.g. spotify isn't going to sync huge things over mobile while your phone is sleeping) -- I haven't noticed any particular increase in data use since doing this, but the battery savings is remarkable. Wifi is a big power drain.
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Omg I always wondered why the heck my phone always said WiFi battery usage was high even when I was on Airplane mode with my S5!
Thanks bro! ✌?
Smithfolk4 said:
Something causes the phone to not go to sleep sometimes. I have Greenify set up with Doze on the Go turned on. After a while, the sleep function just stops working and the phone has to be rebooted to get it to go back into the sleep mode. Haven't been able to figure this one out. Root would help us here.
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I had this problem too until I realized that I was using the fingerprint sensor to turn the device off. Greenify has an option for this, but it doesn't seem to work with the Z Force. Greenify does work properly for me if I use the power button to turn the screen off. But it doesn't if I use the fingerprint sensor.
It's normal to Motorola. This is a fresh factory reset.

battery issues

Hi folks.. facing a lot of battery drain issues.. mostly it had to do with social network apps .. bit in general the battery y efficiency in emui is not that great.. pls share your thoughts and tricks to lower battery consumption ..
Mohit849 said:
Hi folks.. facing a lot of battery drain issues.. mostly it had to do with social network apps .. bit in general the battery y efficiency in emui is not that great.. pls share your thoughts and tricks to lower battery consumption ..
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really? my honor play work 1-2days with 1 charging... i use fb app(not lite) and fb messenger(not lite)... and not drain battery... problem is in your device...check battery statistic which app drain battery...
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really? my honor play work 1-2days with 1 charging... i use fb app(not lite) and fb messenger(not lite)... and not drain battery... problem is in your device...check battery statistic which app drain battery...
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I do have what's app and Instagram apart from the other two that you mentioned .. my general use is of 3.5 to 4 hours per day but by the end of day the battery dies..so my question is should I stop background running apps? I have around 30 to 35 apps installed on phone..
I got this tips for battery longevity..
Also, don't put phone on vibration mode...it consumes battery...either silent or sound..
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1) get charger alarm and set it to 80%
2) disable uselesa background apps.
Thats it.
I charge to 80% every morning, despite having 4G volte + data 24/7 with upto 2 hours calling, 30mins-60mins gaming, 1hr+ chatting, 30mins+ 9gag, 30mins youtube...
Mine phone still stays around 35%...when I check next morning
Data (4g), location, auto synch are ALWAYS turned ON
(Yesterday my totol usge was 5.5hours with 1hour gaming (fortnite)... My battery was at 25% when i checked this morning)
I recently bought the honor play but have found the battery usage to be higher than I would like at night during standby. I leave my phone connected to wifi and 4g (although 4g is not on when wifi is) and I noticed that the phone wakes up a lot during the night. It seems that it mostly wakes up more often when on wifi as when on 4g during the day there are far fewer wake up events. So to solve this problem I'm using tasker to disable wifi, deny all network activity (excluding calls), bluetooth and auto sync for me during 11:30pm and 7.30am. The result is that the phone barely wakes up at night now and I am getting 2-3% battery drain over 8 hours instead of 10-14%. So I would recommend doing this, as it seems to improve battery life. There may be other apps that can do the same thing but I like the interface and usability of it over something like automate.
Edit: I would also recommend leaving the standard power saving mode on all the time as it doesn't limit performance but just limits background activity. However, this does disable auto sync, but then you could just set auto sync to turn on at set intervals using tasker, at least that's what I'm doing.

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