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[Q] T-MO (N900T) or Intl. (N9005) ? for use on AT&T

I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.

Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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You wont get LTE with the international version

barondebxl said:
You wont get LTE with the international version
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I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?

Jayster0966 said:
I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?
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Yes, check the 4G LTE bands

barondebxl said:
Yes, check the 4G LTE bands
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Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:

Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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TMO for me and working flawlessly.

Earthdog said:
TMO for me and working flawlessly.
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On my way to the T-MO store then. :fingers-crossed:
Just so I get this straight,
1. Purchase the N900T.
2. Purchase a $10 or $20 SIM card. (then insert it and use the phone) Required?
3. Bring it home and use the service on CellUnlocker.net
4. Wait for the unlock codes then ENJOY! (Change APN settings)
Optional;
Follow the rooting/recovery guides in the T-Mo thread.

If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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agent929 said:
If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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Jayster0966 said:
Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:
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Lol no worries. Just get the T-mobile version and you'll be just fine. I unlocked mine for cellunlocker.net ( well technically i havent unlocked it yet as i am waiting for my note 3 to be delivered but i got the unlock code ready to go).

I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
Sent from my SM-N900T now Free

GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
Sent from my SM-N900T now Free
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How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?

GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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Thanks for the update on that. You did not have to put a T-Mo SIM first? I thought that was required for the region unlock issue?
How are the actual LTE speeds? Others have mentioned a drop in speeds due to AT&T not giving top priority to the T-Mo IMEI.
barondebxl said:
How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?
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+1 on this question. How is the signal strength as well compared to a true AT&T phone in the same area?

Galaxy Note 3 Active
I was in the T-Mo store today looking at the Note 3. Ready and willing to go ahead and pull the trigger, then the rep says they are all out of the white one. They will have more in by the end of the week. Then mentions, they do have some at another store about 5 miles away though. He looks at me looking all disappointed and says, have you heard the rumor about the N3 active? No, I said. He says, if you can wait to get a new phone you might want to read up as it looks like Samsung is going to be going ahead with the release very soon.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-and-galaxy-note-3-active-models-tipped-20131007/
Now so confused, I think I have to wait and see what developes.

mehdi_s82 said:
They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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That's compete crap. I can't believe they would do that to you. I was under the impression they had to if you bought it outright. Perhaps you'll have to get an unlock code elsewhere.
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Im confused
I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?

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I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?
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It's because their stock of N900T's have been blacklisted by US carriers. Meaning they were obtained from the gray market. T-Mobile and AT&T have a database of IMEI's that are blocked from their network.

N900T vs N900A
I was reading the thread and was wondering why folks would prefer to buy the N900T vs N900A (especially when they are planning to use if for AT&T and will be required to unlock immediately)? Is there hardware/software advantages for the N900T over the N900A?

I'll add my 2 cents on this. I had originally purchased the T-Mobile variant (N900T) of the Note 3. I loaded up a custom rom and it was perfect. Shortly after that, I noticed my LTE signal (not HSPA) would be very low (-110dbm) in areas where my AT&T branded phones would sit on -94dbm. I flashed back to stock and noticed the same thing. Overall, LTE reception on band 17 on the N900T was very poor. Its probably because the N900T isn't optimized to use Band 17. Using the device with T-Mobile service, I had no LTE issues.
Now using the N900A for AT&T and get great LTE reception.

A buddy of mine has also noticed the TMO Note3 gets a lower reception when compared to my ATT note3. We are both on ATT as well.
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Anyone know details about locked Note 4?

Hi,
If I purchase a Note 4 that is locked to EE network UK, does anyone know if it's possible to make the phone like a factory unlocked version direct from Samsung?
Or can I only use specific EE firmware on it?
Sorry, I don't really know much when it comes to UK network phones.
Would appreciate any help, thanks!

Hi. If you purchase the phone through carphone warehouse the handset will not be locked.
sent from my galaxy note 4

roryh86 said:
Hi,
If I purchase a Note 4 that is locked to EE network UK, does anyone know if it's possible to make the phone like a factory unlocked version direct from Samsung?
Or can I only use specific EE firmware on it?
Sorry, I don't really know much when it comes to UK network phones.
Would appreciate any help, thanks!
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You can flash any software for your variant on it. I think ee is the 910f so any rom from any carrier for the 910f will work but unfortunately it will be sim locked to ee and probably region locked to Europe. You can pay ee or an online website for the sim unlock code but unless you plan to use a different sim there's no point

Thanks! I'm actually thinking of going for the Exynos version now. The reason I was asking is because I found a good price for it on Gumtree but still not sure if a locked Snapdragon Note 4 phone is the way to go..

roryh86 said:
Thanks! Im actually thinking of going for the Exynos version now. The reason I was asking is because I found a good price for it on Gumtree but still not sure if a locked Snapdragon Note 4 phone is the way to go..
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Tbh I think most people would prefer the exynos but as most of us are getting it on contract we will end up with the snapdragon. The exynos may well be the better phone but with all us and most of Europe getting snapdragon that will probably be the most supported version.
What I will say I have yet to find an app I use that doesn't work on my 4 year old s2 so i very much doubt there will be anything in the next 2 years that the snapdragon can't handle with ease. Even the new nexus has a 32 bit snapdragon so google will not be pushing 64 bit any time soon

sawdoctor said:
Tbh I think most people would prefer the exynos but as most of us are getting it on contract we will end up with the snapdragon. The exynos may well be the better phone but with all us and most of Europe getting snapdragon that will probably be the most supported version.
What I will say I have yet to find an app I use that doesn't work on my 4 year old s2 so i very much doubt there will be anything in the next 2 years that the snapdragon can't handle with ease. Even the new nexus has a 32 bit snapdragon so google will not be pushing 64 bit any time soon
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I still have a year left on my Vodafone contract so getting one off contract is still the better option for me. But despite that, the SM-N910X Snapdragon version that I played around with at the O2 store seemed to lag somewhat, which worried me. The Exynos versions that I've seen online and YouTube seems to be smoother in my opinion.
Also, I haven't been hearing complaints from Exynos Note 4 holders, they all say its smooth and lag free. From the people that are complaining about lag, most of them seem to be Snapdragon holders. Not to mention that the Exynos is better in most of the benchmarks. Just take a look at this comparison:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/750158?baseline=972742

roryh86 said:
I still have a year left on my Vodafone contract so getting one off contract is still the better option for me. But despite that, the SM-N910X Snapdragon version that I played around with at the O2 store seemed to lag somewhat, which worried me. The Exynos versions that I've seen online and YouTube seems to be smoother in my opinion.
Also, I haven't been hearing complaints from Exynos Note 4 holders, they all say its smooth and lag free. From the people that are complaining about lag, most of them seem to be Snapdragon holders. Not to mention that the Exynos is better in most of the benchmarks. Just take a look at this comparison:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/750158?baseline=972742
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My ee upgrade arrives in the morning so will have a better idea. Twizz lags a bit on any device due to its design, i've seen one person complain about lag in several different posts tbh. It's your choice obviously and if you are spending a lot of money you should get the model that you actually want so for that reason exynos might be better but make sure you check which bands the device and your carrier are supporting or ot could be a waste of money. I really can't see anything with a 2.7g quad core processor lagging with anything, any games that lag will some be fixed with optimisation

What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??

ToyMusha said:
What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??
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If you bought it from Samsung it wont be locked.

ToyMusha said:
What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??
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The phone will not be locked to the carriers frequency, as already posted sim free won't be sim locked and any sim locked phone can be unlocked for a small fee. What can't be changed is the phone hardware. Whatever bands the phone has can't be changed, there are several thread's stating what bands each model supports so just make sure to get a model that supports the bands your carrier uses

Just for the record things like tap to pay won't work on a unlocked phone. I had a S4 and a G3 all unlocked none work. My Z2 did and that was locked

sawdoctor said:
My ee upgrade arrives in the morning so will have a better idea. Twizz lags a bit on any device due to its design, i've seen one person complain about lag in several different posts tbh. It's your choice obviously and if you are spending a lot of money you should get the model that you actually want so for that reason exynos might be better but make sure you check which bands the device and your carrier are supporting or ot could be a waste of money. I really can't see anything with a 2.7g quad core processor lagging with anything, any games that lag will some be fixed with optimisation
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Can I ask what deal you got from EE? I'm going to push them for an early upgrade but not sure what deal I can squeeze out of them....
Best deal atm is £28 pm plus £99 upfront with O2, unlimited calls / text plus 1GB data
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app

dannysmith43 said:
Can I ask what deal you got from EE? I'm going to push them for an early upgrade but not sure what deal I can squeeze out of them....
Best deal atm is £28 pm plus £99 upfront with O2, unlimited calls / text plus 1GB data
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Free mobile app
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I'm on a business tariff so it's a bit different. I got unlimited calls and texts plus 5gig data for £40 a month and free phone but I was due an upgrade

How can i tell if i have snapdragon or exynos?

daz_2000 said:
How can i tell if i have snapdragon or exynos?
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What model do you have? Settings>About Device>Model number

roryh86 said:
What model do you have? Settings>About Device>Model number
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SM-N910F

daz_2000 said:
SM-N910F
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That's the European version which is Snapdragon.
Edit: It says it on the back of the box as well.

roryh86 said:
That's the European version which is Snapdragon.
Edit: It says it on the back of the box as well.
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Thanks. Is one supposed to be better than other? Is there much in it?

daz_2000 said:
Thanks. Is one supposed to be better than other? Is there much in it?
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I haven't tried the Exynos. I have the 910F like you and its extremely fast. I suppose the Exynos is slightly faster but nothing to lose sleep over.

I have Sprint. Which Note 8 to buy? Root. Please Help!

Hello,
Which Note 8 should I buy?
International Version
Unlocked Version
Sprint Version
I heard the processor for the International Version is best I think it stats with an E. Should I get that?
I would like to root.
Does it matter or should I just order one directly from Sprint?
Will this work with Sprint?
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Factory Unlocked Phone - 6.3" Screen - 64GB - Midnight Black (U.S. Warranty)
This one from Amazon?
Should I buy that one above from Amazon or buy it directly from Sprint?
Can I root both of them?
I would like to order one today, I just don't know if I should order from Sprint or Amazon.
P.S.
Also if this is not possible should I get a S8 or S8 Plus? However, reading over on their threads doesn't look like root is possible really there either, hit or miss. Is that true? Which S8 I should get? International or US?
I mainly want apps like:
Ad Block
YouTube Background Player
YouTube Ad Block
ETC...
Please Advise.

you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin

purchasedPhone said:
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.

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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.

AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.

AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable?
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.

purchasedPhone said:
from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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Torquemada288 said:
The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.

AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.

AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.

BlueFox721 said:
I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Torquemada288 said:
Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.

AtlantaBB said:
My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
Oops...I forgot to mention that they may update more frequently or sooner

BlueFox721 said:
The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?

AtlantaBB said:
That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though

I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.

BlueFox721 said:
When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
Agenesis said:
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.

AtlantaBB said:
Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
https://www.androidcentral.com/volte

BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?

AtlantaBB said:
Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
I am coming from Note 3 as well

BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Oh my goodness, looks like my note 3 has two antennas and the newer phones have only 1. that is why i can do both. Why would they make the service worse?
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Buz...e-same-time-with-Sprint-s-Calling/ba-p/961338

The Note 8 wipes the Note 3 out

Downsides to buying T-mobile version for AT&T as opposed to buying unlocked from BH?

Downsides to buying T-mobile version for AT&T as opposed to buying unlocked from BH?
Are there any downsides to buying a T-mobile version to use on AT&T versus just getting an unlocked version on BH Photo? It looks like the B&H deal ends in a few days.
I'm concerned that LG has abandoned unlocked devices before and while OS updates aren't important to me I'd hate to see a camera update come to the carriers and never get it on the unlocked version.
What are everyone's thoughts?

Blown 89 said:
Are there any downsides to buying a T-mobile version to use on AT&T versus just getting an unlocked version on BH Photo? It looks like the B&H deal ends in a few days.
I'm concerned that LG has abandoned unlocked devices before and while OS updates aren't important to me I'd hate to see a camera update come to the carriers and never get it on the unlocked version.
What are everyone's thoughts?
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well you may not have support for Wi-Fi calling or voice over LTE if you buy a T-Mobile phone for AT&T. Now if you buy a Galaxy Note 9 and popping your sim card it should automatically configure for AT&T.
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raver445 said:
well you may not have support for Wi-Fi calling or voice over LTE if you buy a T-Mobile phone for AT&T. Now if you buy a Galaxy Note 9 and popping your sim card it should automatically configure for AT&T.
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Does Voice Over LTE and HD Voice work if you're using an unlocked B&H version on AT&T? The HD Voice on the V30 on ATT was really nice so I'd hate not to have it.
I'm not concerned with wifi calling.

Blown 89 said:
Does Voice Over LTE and HD Voice work if you're using an unlocked B&H version on AT&T? The HD Voice on the V30 on ATT was really nice so I'd hate not to have it.
I'm not concerned with wifi calling.
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It depends if you can load up the AT&T firmware there's a real good chance you'll get it. But I'm not guaranteeing that you will. It's Hit or Miss just like with gambling.
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OP, is root any concern at all? If so then of course stick with Unlocked. Also for a near guarantee of cross carrier support I'd stick with the unlocked as well. Or you an be the Guinea pig and let us know what works and what doesn't when you try to do it. I'm sure others are interested in knowing as well.
BTW I thought I had heard that TMO was limiting the direct purchasing of their phones without a line?
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OP, is root any concern at all? If so then of course stick with Unlocked. Also for a near guarantee of cross carrier support I'd stick with the unlocked as well. Or you an be the Guinea pig and let us know what works and what doesn't when you try to do it. I'm sure others are interested in knowing as well.
BTW I thought I had heard that TMO was limiting the direct purchasing of their phones without a line?
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I'll root if I need to in order to get HD Voice and data.
The T-Mobile version is all over Swappa and can be had for $150-200 less than the BH deal. That's why I'm asking about it. AT&T doesn't have any decent deals unless you're on the Next program and without some sort of discount it's not worth ditching my V30 for. Between the low price on the T-mobile versions and no taxes on the BH deal, buying on ATT just doesn't make sense.
I'm willing to be the Guinea pig, I just need to know which is the best route when bringing the phone to ATT.

Hi OP. ATT Variant would be best if you value HD Voice or VOLTE. these are baked into the ATT rom, and the only way to get them is to flash the ATT rom. If you can live with a locked bootloader, I'd recommend it. I've got one and surprisingly, its the least bloated carrier-branded phone I've ever owned.

When buying an unlocked LG v40, does sprint or AT&T unlocked matter?

Does it matter with whom the carrier is from?
can they be flashed or rooted?

Currently there's a procedure to unlock boot loader for all models *except* t mobile. The procedure isn't simple though. Look in rom/devs sub forum.

barth2 said:
Currently there's a procedure to unlock boot loader for all models *except* t mobile. The procedure isn't simple though. Look in rom/devs sub forum.
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Alright thank you
does it matter if I buy a AT&T version or Sprint Version?
Would it affect performance or what bands I can connect to?

aceofpilots said:
Alright thank you
does it matter if I buy a AT&T version or Sprint Version?
Would it affect performance or what bands I can connect to?
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That I don't know. I got a Sprint model and it seems to work fine with att, though I've been stuck at home like everybody else so I haven't really tested the network. The Sprint model is on Android 9. I don't know what the situation is on att.
Sprint does load the phone with a bunch of bloat and spam ware, most of which you can disable. I imagine att does the same. I'd just buy what is available at lowest price.

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That I don't know. I got a Sprint model and it seems to work fine with att, though I've been stuck at home like everybody else so I haven't really tested the network. The Sprint model is on Android 9. I don't know what the situation is on att.
Sprint does load the phone with a bunch of bloat and spam ware, most of which you can disable. I imagine att does the same. I'd just buy what is available at lowest price.
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Im just worried cause its my first real phone and i dont wanna spend $150+ on the wrong one and get crappy reception or use it properly.

aceofpilots said:
Im just worried cause its my first real phone and i dont wanna spend $150+ on the wrong one and get crappy reception or use it properly.
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What made you decide to get this phone? If you explain what you want/need people will be able to advise you better.

barth2 said:
What made you decide to get this phone? If you explain what you want/need people will be able to advise you better.
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Really the Quad DACs mainly and Camera Quality
i'm upgrading from an S6

Get the AT&T version...it has more bands than the Sprint version.

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Get the AT&T version...it has more bands than the Sprint version.
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from what I was told you could just flash the firmware on it to the US unlocked and that would allow more band usage?