Are Sprint SM-T817P and Verizon SM-T817V models GSM unlocked? - Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am going to buy this tablet for my parents. However, I am not sure what the differences are between the two model. Are they GSM unlocked? I was told all of the Verizon phones are GSM unlocked. Meanwhile, Ringplus offers some free plan with Sprint network.

The verizon one should be unlocked. best way is to check the demo one in store, by putting a sim card in it... the sprint one is locked.
but if the network runs on sprint, then the sprint one does not need to be unlocked

Thanks, stealthj

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AT&T on T-Mobile?

This is probably a really stupid/simple question, but how locked down is the AT&T version of the Moto X? I'm interested in jumping to T-Mobile and am off-contract on a MVNO carrier. Would I be able to take a MotoMaker version of the Moto X and unlock/run it on T-Mobile without any issues, if I bought it outright?
terinfire said:
This is probably a really stupid/simple question, but how locked down is the AT&T version of the Moto X? I'm interested in jumping to T-Mobile and am off-contract on a MVNO carrier. Would I be able to take a MotoMaker version of the Moto X and unlock/run it on T-Mobile without any issues, if I bought it outright?
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yes, i am using one from at&t on tmobile and i have no problem so far.
Is it possible to do a moto maker AT&T off contract activate phone on T-Mobile and unlock bootloader?
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Is it possible to do a moto maker AT&T off contract activate phone on T-Mobile and unlock bootloader?
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no because the motomaker edition still can't have its bootloader unlocked.
can moto maker phone (att) ask for unlock code from att?
If you paid for the phone outright they will [should] give you the lock code. Worst case is you can go onto any number of sites and get the code for $10 or less.
The ATT version works fine on TMO as long as you aren't in one of the few remaining areas that hasn't been 're-farmed.' HSPA on AWS is in very limited use now, but markets that still depend on this protocol on this band will not play too nice with an ATT version. Most of TMO coverage though has been re-farmed so that LTE runs on AWS. These areas are fine. If I recall (don't hold me to this) all TMO markets will be re-farmed by the end of the year.
Already ask request but still not have any update from att
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[Q] Using Moto X Verizon outside US?

I'm willing to buy one from eBay
I found a Dev Edition Verizon 32GB
Can I use it directly without any activation or unlocking?
I don't care about 4G/LTE. I only care about 3G and H+
Thanks
GSM DEV ED is working factory unlocked out of the box as is the T mobile version. No activation needed or required. VZW edition is for those on their network not wanting to void warranty by unlocking bootloader.
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mkb_1989 said:
I'm willing to buy one from eBay
I found a Dev Edition Verizon 32GB
Can I use it directly without any activation or unlocking?
I don't care about 4G/LTE. I only care about 3G and H+
Thanks
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I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
esskayy said:
I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
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It's my understanding that an unlocked moto-x will work on either CDMA or GSM networks depending on the sim that is put in the phone. There is apparently no hardware difference in the various phones other than 16gb or 32gb. The differences are in the preloading and locking of carrier stuff...and the warranty for developer edition not being voided by unlocking it.
esskayy said:
I'm pretty certain that the Verizon one will not work overseas. Best bet is to get a T-Mobile or GSM DE. Swappa is the best place for it.
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All verizon LTE phones are sim un-locked now (FCC requires this as part of the licensing deal for the 700MHz spectrum). The trick is to find a local carrier that matches the phones radio bands, or to buy a phone from a carrier whos radio bands match your perferred local carriers as closely as possible. The Wikipedia page lists the variants of the Moto X and their radios.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X
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All verizon LTE phones are sim un-locked now (FCC requires this as part of the licensing deal for the 700MHz spectrum). The trick is to find a local carrier that matches the phones radio bands, or to buy a phone from a carrier whos radio bands match your perferred local carriers as closely as possible. The Wikipedia page lists the variants of the Moto X and their radios.
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I just returned from a week in Europe with my Verizon Moto X (non-DE). When I landed in Italy, it took about 10 minutes before the phone picked up a local carrier and then everything worked great. In Italy I was roaming on Vodafone, and in Switzerland I was roaming on Swisscom. Data worked great in both places. I didn't try using a local SIM card, but I'm sure there are plenty that would work.

[Q] Motox SIM Lock

Hi, I want to buy Motox US operator version to use in GSM abroad US. All versions have GSM. But which versions have sim lock or can be unlocked, and how?
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Hi, I want to buy Motox US operator version to use in GSM abroad US. All versions have GSM. But which versions have sim lock or can be unlocked, and how?
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The only methods to unlock right now are through the carrier (by calling and requesting an unlock code) or by purchasing one online. There's already a few threads about this.
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The only methods to unlock right now are through the carrier (by calling and requesting an unlock code) or by purchasing one online. There's already a few threads about this.
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Is Verizon or T-mobile version sim-free. Which versions can be unlocked throught purchasing online?
T Mobile is the SIM unlocked one. It's SIM unlocked from factory, no unlocked code need to be purchased.
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What about Sprint version? Is it unlocked for overseas use?
Sprint from what I've read has an unlock program that you have to go through before them actually giving you the unlock code. So it's kind of pointless to get a Sprint version.
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What about Verizon version? I read verizon does not lock their phone. Is the owner on verizon, they have a slot for a SIM card and SIMlock?
brysommer said:
What about Verizon version? I read verizon does not lock their phone. Is the owner on verizon, they have a slot for a SIM card and SIMlock?
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It's factory-unlocked out the gate. What you'll eventually have to consider is what frequencies you'll need for what areas. The only difference as far as the world is concerned is whether or not you need the 1700MHz band for HSDPA/HSPA or you need the 850MHz band for LTE. If you need the former, but not the latter: go for the TMO/SIM-unlocked version, if vice versa then the Verizon version is better (AT&T is the same as Verizon but it's locked).
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
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It's factory-unlocked out the gate. What you'll eventually have to consider is what frequencies you'll need for what areas. The only difference as far as the world is concerned is whether or not you need the 1700MHz band for HSDPA/HSPA or you need the 850MHz band for LTE. If you need the former, but not the latter: go for the TMO/SIM-unlocked version, if vice versa then the Verizon version is better (AT&T is the same as Verizon but it's locked).
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I want only GSM 900/1800, the best SIM-free, or the ability to buy the code on ebey. Would do well to EVDO compatibility. If I understand you correctly then:
# 1 Verizon
# 2 T-mobile
# 3 ATT

Will Sprint Note 5 work on AT&T?

May be a really dumb question.
Looking to get a Note 5 on AT&T but I need it rooted. I understand only Sprint and T-Mobile are rootable. Right now I have a unlocked Tmobile S6 Edge working on AT&T and am curious if a Note 5 from Sprint will also work.
I'm obviously buying the phone outright. I know it will work on Verizon too, but that also, to my understanding, can't be rooting.
Thanks in advance and sorry if it was a dumb question.
No for Sprint, yes for T-Mobile. Sprint runs their network on CDMA system, and AT&T runs their network on GSM. Even though the Sprint Version of the Note 5 technically has a sim card, its hardware is still based on a CDMA setup. The sprint version would not work. However, The T-Mobile version runs on a GSM Network, like AT&T. So providing that you are able to have Domestic SIM Unlock available to you, you would be able to put an AT&T Sim card in the phone and it would work.
I have the same question as you. I have a sprint note 5 and want to take it to at&t since I just got hired with them I get 50% off. I entered the serial number in on att website and its says it will work
actually i have read the new lte phones are dual radio whether they are gsm or cdma. out the box no it will not work on anything other than sprint. getting it unlocked may be a challenge. the sprint nexus 6 comes factory unlocked and is usable on ALL cdma AND gsm networks. now comes the tricky part even if u do have a unlocked phone. unlocked should work for all gsm like your needs. but u can not take a unlocked nexus from att and use it on sprint like you can the other way around. becuase of cdma networks activating off the esn and not the imei. or for that matter using a sprint phone on a verizon service, yes the phone is capable but cdma has to have the esn in the networks database for it to work. verizon and sprint control what devices can be activated since the activation is through the esn and not the sim card. in the old days the straight answer is no way. i would definitely look into it more before deciding on a answer.
its on the internet so it must be true! but seriously, i am not saying your answer is either yes or no, just saying its worth looking into. fwiw i would think its only a matter of time before the root is achieved on all of them.
http://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Can-I-use-my-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
Has anyone confirmed whether or not a Sprint Note 5 will or will not work on AT&T if it's unlocked?
If you get it unlocked for domestic, yes it will work.
Yes, you can get it unlocked for virtually any carrier. I'm using a Sprint Note 5 on AT&T right now. In fact I'm sending this reply on it. I had it software unlocked (Sprint's a real stickler with their unlocking policy, but even so it's still possible even through them. There are plenty of forums about it. Though there are certain bugs with using it that piss me off like not being able to send MMS while connected to wifi, but I get my full carrier speed. I tested it side by side with an AT&T iphone 6s. Note 5 won massively on the upload time.
I'm helping!
Where did you get it Unlocked!? Please help

CDMA unlock Verizon Note 8 for Sprint?

Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
f2000sa said:
Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
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Verizon phones are all carrier unlocked. I'm using a Verizon Note 8 on T-Mobile right now.
Couple questions:
1. Have you double checked to make sure the IMEI is clean and clear? If its blacklisted on Verizon, it won't work on any US carrier.
2. Do you have a nano SIM from Sprint that's already activated?
3. Have you tried flashing either the unlocked firmwareor the Sprint firmware on it?
Thanks, Mr. Orange645
The phone was bought brand new a month ago from Best Buy , and used on Verizon for a month. Phone paid off and no contract. IMEI should be clean. I did a check on Ting with the IMEI , and it can be used for GSM.
I have two nano sims from Sprint, both activated and un-activated. The problem is that Sprint can not add the IMEI to their system. I called Samsung and gave the IMEI, and was told that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. I wonder whether there is way to do CDMA unlocking.
I did not try to flash unlocked ROM. I think that IMEI on sprint network is the first step.
So you have a nano SIM that's already activated with Sprint? It's in a Sprint phone right now and has service?
If So, put the activated SIM in your Note 8 and see if you have service.
Sprint shouldn't have to activate your phone, just the Sim. That's how you can buy the Unlocked version from Samsung.com and stick your Sprint SIM in it and have service.
Sprint uses CDMA, and have to add the IMEI to their system to make it work. Also tried the activated sim, with no luck.
There is no "CDMA unlocking," it's either carrier unlocked or it's not. And ALL Verizon LTE Devices are Carrier unlocked.
f2000sa said:
Is there such a thing as CDMA unlocking? Samsung said that it is carrier-locked to Verizon. Verizon said they no longer lock phones. I could not get it activated on Sprint. They do not accept the IMEI.
Is there any way to make it working on Sprint? Please help. Got stuck with a phone that can not be used. Thanks
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Have you tried simply factory resetting the device first and then booting up for the first time with the activated Sprint sim in.
Maybe try flashing Sprint firmware?
IMEI is hard-coded. For CDMA, it must be added into Sprint systems. Unless GSM, only a SIM is necessary.
Did Sprint not provide some sort of reason/explanation as to why they are unable to add the IMEI? If they can't do it, surely they can tell you why.
CDMA networks are finicky -- Sprint's in particular -- when it comes to bringing over other carrier devices (even ones with compatible hardware). Some good info in here:
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhon...y-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
f2000sa said:
IMEI is hard-coded. For CDMA, it must be added into Sprint systems. Unless GSM, only a SIM is necessary.
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I believe someone is giving you false information. You should be able to place an activated SIM card into the phone and start using it. That's how the unlocked Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL, Galaxy S8, Galaxy S8+, and Note 8 all work. You buy them unlocked and use them on whichever carrier you want, including Sprint. That's how my Nexus 6 worked on Verizon, before I switched to T-Mobile. Verizon also uses CDMA, and they didn't have to add any IMEI into their system. You just put the activated SIM into the phone.
I could take a Verizon SIM and put it into my T-Mobile S8+ right now, and it would activate and get service.
But to answer your original question again, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CDMA UNLOCKING. The phone is either carrier unlocked, or its not. And the Verizon Note 8 is 100% carrier unlocked.
I beginning to suspect you bought a Note 8 with a bad IMEI, if you got it used.
EDIT: I MAY BE WRONG (don't tell my wife, she never hears me say that)
After doing some research on Reddit, it looks like others ran into the same issue as you. The unlocked version and the Sprint version will work, but none of the other carrier Note 8s are eligible for BYOD. Which is stupid, since they are all exactly the same hardware.
I'd try this:
Use ODIN to flash either the Unlocked 950U1 firmware, or the Sprint 950U firmware. Then place the Sprint SIM card in the phone to see if it activates upon start up. If it doesn't then you may be hosed. If that's the case, sign up for T-Mobile. LOL.
Thanks all for the useful information and help. The error they encountered is that they could not load the ESN to the Sprint PLBL database. They got error like incompatible, or unsupported device etc.
Sprint will not add other carries phone to their system. If IMEI is from Verizon it will never work with active or inactive SIM. Only way if it was factory unlocked phone bought from Samsung.
Did anyone find a solution to this? Moved to Sprint BYOD two days ago with my Verizon note8 and it won't work. The phone keeps asking for a Verizon since. I am at second Sprint repair center as I type this. Please tell me it can be fixed. Thanks.
I am in the same boat, Paid off my wife's Iphone7+ and my Note 8 with Verizon and then tried to BYOD with sprint and they are unable to activate. Verizon informed me that their devices are 100% not locked and Sprint has no clue.
You could try other carriers like straightalk or tmobile maybe even metro pcs but it will not work with sprint. They are a pain and don't allow other carrier phones on their network.
I purchased a Verizon Note 8 , which was paid off and unlocked. Successfully activated on Sprint using my existing Active Sprint sim card.
Everything looks good, just one major issue, I am stuck with 3G internet. Still not able to get 4G LTE on Sprint.
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OriyaGuru said:
I purchased a Verizon Note 8 , which was paid off and unlocked. Successfully activated on Sprint using my existing Active Sprint sim card.
Everything looks good, just one major issue, I am stuck with 3G internet. Still not able to get 4G LTE on Sprint.
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you need to enter sprints apn bro then you will have 4G.
I have the reverse issue. I have the opportunity to get a good deal on a Sprint Note 8, but I want to use it on Verizon. Assuming the device is not blacklisted, would there be any issue with this? Buying a sprint-branded phone and using it on Verizon's CDMA network? Are all the bands the same? I get 3 checkmarks on willmyphonework.com (but they didn't have the Note 8 yet, just the Note 7)

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