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Tmobile USA 3G

Has anyone been able to connect to Tmobile's USA 3G network in Dallas TX? Anywhere else in the US? Any settings need to be changed?

Search is good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390575
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417121
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390449
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403539

Search???? But it is some much better for the community to ask the question before searching.
Please close thread.

Before you start flaming, I suggest you read the question. Since you can search, I assume you can read...
The original question was about this service in Dallas TX, which according to multiple sources, the service was just launched on August 27.
Most posts available on Tmobile's 3G state the service is on the 1700 MHz (which the kaiser is not capable). However there are a few people that have stated it might also be in the 2100MHz band.
It is also possible that the Kaise is capable to hook to the 1700MHz band but not enabled by the radio rom. Take the Diamond for example, it was not supposed to support the 850MHz band...
Since Dallas service just started, it is possible 2100MHz is available.
Has anyone been able to prove Tmobile's 3G service is up an running IN DALLAS?

I stand corrected, kind sir. I jumped to a conclusion and was ignorant of the facts related to your specific part of the world. I am sorry.
Did you call TMobile customer service and ask the question? So none of the search results gave you any help. I guess wait and see if you get a reply. Good luck.

3g with tilt ?
smh

jayizzbakk said:
3g with tilt ?
smh
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I just got 3G here in little old York, Pa. I guess I don't understand your question?

I think what he wants to know if 3g data will work with an at&T branded tilt on tmobile U.S. and if so I would like to know how it compares to the edge network they were using

i think T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 and one band is for uplink and the other is for downlink.
unlike AT&T or Rogers who can use 850 and 1900 independantly for uplink or downlink.

first of all, tmobile sim cards are not 3G compatbile, therefore even the correct settings probably wont pick up any 3G signal...keep in mind that tmobile never updated simcards since its voicestream transition...i remember when AT&T went 3G, they had to issue 3G enabled sim cards....

And my Tilt has a 3G SIM but it's an ATT SIM.

you cant get on tmobiles network with an att sim

Awesome - HD7 on AT&T!

Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.

Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?

why do you want to ruin his experience since apparently he hasn't noticed yet ...

unlockMe said:
why do you want to ruin his experience since apparently he hasn't noticed yet ...
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lol (10 chara)

tjy said:
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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How did you get the unlock code so fast?

tjy said:
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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So exchange works no problem. How about data connection to the Internet ans speed?

tjy said:
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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Oh and the tmobile store today told me unless i was a customer they couldnt sell it to me? $449

Biggzz said:
Oh and the tmobile store today told me unless i was a customer they couldnt sell it to me? $449
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Course they said that. They want the money from the contract/upgrade. Call up corporate and let them know the store would not sell you a phone. There are no restrictions on phones being sold outright, but sometimes, because these stores are not corporate stores, they can enforce their own rules, but reporting them can sometimes make them change their mind.

vikramdhani said:
Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?
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how SLOW is edge? Is like like a very bad wifi connection? Hehehe... No really, I want to know.

No smartphone is worth the pain of Edge!

I don't know about at&t, but with t-mobile, edge is like not having an internet connection. About 100 kbps and alot of auto updates time out.

Does AT&T 3G require a special frequency that isn't covered by Quad Band? Or is it that T-Mobile 3G has a special, non Quad Band frequency?

Jonno2343 said:
Does AT&T 3G require a special frequency that isn't covered by Quad Band? Or is it that T-Mobile 3G has a special, non Quad Band frequency?
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there are two band sets for gsm phones, GPRS/EDGE and UMTS:3G/3G+/3.5G/HSDPA/HUDPA (sometimes these abbreviations are used individually to denote 3G service. This is not correct as they all mean a different type of 3G, the most generic term is UMTS).
Sometimes HTC phones have different band sets for different countries.
HTC HD7 Europe:
* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HTC HD7 T-mobile USA Version:
* UMTS 2100MHz AWS1700/2100MHz
* GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
For GSM there is no issue, 850 & 1900 are USA, 900 & 1900 are EU, but all the phones cover everything:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
In the USA, UMTS 3G for tmobile is on AWS 1700/2100 only
In the USA other providers use 850 with some using 1900
For example, the HTC Surround on AT&T uses:
* UMTS 2100/1900/850
* GSM GPRS EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
In conclusion:
1. Buying a tmobile HTC in the USA means you can only get 3G signal when using the tmobile network. When travelling abroad you might be able to use 3G, dependent on country.
2. Buying a AT&T HTC in the USA means you can only get 3G signal in the US when using the AT&T network but not on tmobile 3G. When travelling abroad you might be able to use 3G, dependent on country.
3. Buying an HTC HD7 from europe will be able to use neither the tmobile or AT&T network's 3G signal (as AWS 1700/2100mhz is different from normal 2100mhz)
Interestingly, what you may have noticed is that the 2100 3G band is common to all phones, this is also the most widely used 3G band in the world.
Therefore all these phones are fine with 3G everywhere in the world except the USA where the 2 leading GSM networks do not, for some reason, use the 2100mhz band as duplex *
* common question, how is UMTS 2100mhz different from UMTS AWS 2100mhz?
Simple, normal 3G UMTS 2100mhz is duplex (i.e. up and down link use the same frequency). In AWS, the up and downlink use different frequencies, AWS 1700/2100mhz means that tmobile uses 1710-1755 Mhz down & 2110-2155 MHz Up.
Only two networks in the world use AWS, tmobile in the USA and WIND in Canada.
in the rest of the world, where tmobile has a presense, it uses the "normal" 2100 3G band!

Wow, thanks very much colonel, that's an excellent explanation!!
So the T-Mobile HD7 is basically the Europe version with an additional radio (or whatever) to connect to the T-Mobile 3G network?

Jonno2343 said:
Wow, thanks very much colonel, that's an excellent explanation!!
So the T-Mobile HD7 is basically the Europe version with an additional radio (or whatever) to connect to the T-Mobile 3G network?
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it has AWS 1700/2100mhz instead of the EU 900mhz
it retains the normal 2100mhz, although this is useless in the USA
rgds

colonel said:
it has AWS 1700/2100mhz instead of the EU 900mhz
it retains the normal 2100mhz, although this is useless in the USA
rgds
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Excellent, thanks for the clarification!
It seems that in South Africa all 3G goes over the 2.1GHz frequency but some operators are starting with 900MHz so all will be fine.
Can't wait to get one now!

vikramdhani said:
Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?
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Because its the carrier my work pays for Im mostly connected via Wi-Fi anyway.
T.J.

tissot201 said:
How did you get the unlock code so fast?
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http://www.HTCimeiUnlock.com/
Had the code in 10 minutes. Was $25 because of the new device I assume, they advertise 15.
T.J.

[Q] ATT Nexus one on Tmobile

Hi everyone i tried searching but didn't come up with anything. I'm considering purchasing an unlocked nexus one on amazon and I'm not sure if its a tmobile or att version I have tmobile as my provider if i were to get an att version would i still get 3g access? I know if it was the opposite i there would be no access for 3g on att.
Thanks

I believe t-mobile's 3g is 2100mhz, which means the atnt one should work on the network.
I'd get a second opinion though, I'm more knowledgeable on Australian networks than US ones.

Ok thank you for the input, if anyone could confirm this that would b great.

The devices are completely independent of one another in regards to 3G. Cross network compatability only extends to Edge services.
Someone jump in and correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that T-Mobile 3G requires both the 1900 and 2100 frequencies to work (up & down link).

Rod3 is correct the at&t version will not work on t-mo and the t-mo version will not work on at&t, in respect to the 3G that is you will still get edge either way.
Although as far as the both 1900MHz and 2100MHz I'm not sure about that but it's possible, anyone care to add some info.
EDIT: Just Googled it and it's 1900MHz for 2G and 1700MHz/2100MHz for 3G encase anyone is interested.

Dude, thanks for the correction. I knew there were 2 frequencies for 3G and I just picked one off the top of my head. Now that I think about it, yeah 850 and 1900 were for 2G.

[Q] Will this work on Three's 3G network?

I am thinking about buying this phone, I am on a contract with Three so want to use that sim. Can I use that sim in this phone as I am concerned about the different bands, according to GSMArena the LTE version does not have the 1900mhz band. What band does Three use for it's 3G? It's all very confusing and I want to know before I purchase. I heard from somewhere it uses the 2100mhz band, which will be ok.
Many thanks!

Throw Lemons said:
I am thinking about buying this phone, I am on a contract with Three so want to use that sim. Can I use that sim in this phone as I am concerned about the different bands, according to GSMArena the LTE version does not have the 1900mhz band. What band does Three use for it's 3G? It's all very confusing and I want to know before I purchase. I heard from somewhere it uses the 2100mhz band, which will be ok.
Many thanks!
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3 uses 1800 for 2G and 2100 for 3G. Both of which are supported by both varients of the S3.
Sent from my GT-I9300

dave106 said:
3 uses 1800 for 2G and 2100 for 3G. Both of which are supported by both varients of the S3.
Sent from my GT-I9300
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Thank you so much for clearing that up for me! Now I can get one!

Lost Reception+Data Connection on Rogers Network

Hey guys
I got XZ C6603 today from handtec. I activated brand new LTE simcard at rogers store and set up lte apn.
Soon as I did that data connection rapidly changing from h+ to 3g for a while then drop the data connection and phone reception as well.
Seems like lot of ppl here in Canada having trouble getting LTE connection but I am having hard time getting my phone reception and H+ connection.
I'm not sure either XZ is defect or this phone is simply wont work with Rogers.
Any solutions?? or should I just return the phone back to handtec?

LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:

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LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:
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Now I have solid reception + HSPA+ Thanks! :good:
Hope we can use LTE soon though

ssj_jaypee said:
LTE doesn't seem to work with the Z on Rogers.
Go into network settings and network mode and change it to only WCDMA(preferred)/GSM.
3G and HSPA+ work flawlessly so keep it on those instead.
Basically the phone keeps searching for an LTE network but can't connect so it'll keep switching between the network modes.
I'm hoping there's a solution to this soon, because the Z can actually find the Rogers LTE network but can't connect for some reason.
Probably a work around fix that can be done. :good:
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HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.

Entropy512 said:
HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.
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You are wrong,
Rogers does support LTE 2600

I would not use a phone on Rogers that can't get 1900Mhz but ... You should be able to use 2600 LTE. Have you entered the LTE APN ?

Entropy512 said:
HSPA+ will probably be unpredictable on a regional basis - many North American carriers use UMTS1900 and the 6603 does not support that band for HSPA+ operation.
6603 will not operate on LTE in any band in North America I'm aware of.
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HSPA+ works fine where I am on my 6603.
People have been able to get LTE on theirs as well, depending on the region.

EG8196 said:
You are wrong,
Rogers does support LTE 2600
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My LTE worked for an hour the other. I've read the 2600 band is a higher speed band, but it has weaker penetration and more sensitive.
Im beginning to think that you need both 2100 and 2600 bands for LTE to properly work in Canada since Rogers have both deployed simultaneously. Maybe Rogers need to improve their 2600 deployement in order for the XZ to work.

arlaken said:
My LTE worked for an hour the other. I've read the 2600 band is a higher speed band, but it has weaker penetration and more sensitive.
Im beginning to think that you need both 2100 and 2600 bands for LTE to properly work in Canada since Rogers have both deployed simultaneously. Maybe Rogers need to improve their 2600 deployement in order for the XZ to work.
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You need band 4 and band 10. Each frequency is used for different reasons (upstream/downstream). Just having 2,600 Mhz won't do anything. It's already been confirmed by multiple users that LTE doesn't work in North America (AT&T, Rogers, etc.)
That's why the C6603 wasn't released in North America.
The leaked C6606 model should support it, as well as the ZL. (http://playstation.com/psm/certified.html)
LTE on Rogers explained: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38864511#post38864511

Then how does the optimus g on rogers use lte 2600? The optimus g 2600 on rogers only have lte band 700/2600 according to rogers website. This is the first carrier phone to use the 2600 network I believe

ccloudc said:
Then how does the optimus g on rogers use lte 2600? The optimus g 2600 on rogers only have lte band 700/2600 according to rogers website. This is the first carrier phone to use the 2600 network I believe
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Because it uses 2,600 Mhz (band 7) for the downlink and 1,700 Mhz (band 4) for the uplink (even though it doesn't list it in the specs).
(Going into the Service Menu on the Optimus G shows off its full band support.)
Without the appropriate uplink AND downlink support, LTE will not work.
Rogers has LTE deployed on bands 4, 7, and 10.
The C6603 supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20.

BluechipJ said:
Because it uses 2,600 Mhz (band 7) for the downlink and 1,700 Mhz (band 4) for the uplink (even though it doesn't list it in the specs).
(Going into the Service Menu on the Optimus G shows off its full band support.)
Without the appropriate uplink AND downlink support, LTE will not work.
Rogers has LTE deployed on bands 4, 7, and 10.
The C6603 supports bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, and 20.
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Hi, can you tell me how to get the lte band menu?
Regards