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N7 OTA updates?

Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.

What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...

Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.

mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.

Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:

mntbighker said:
Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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TheAltruistic said:
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.

Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.

I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)

I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...

Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.

Pirateghost said:
awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?

mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.

mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.

5.1.1 by end of July according to Sammobile.com

Just saw this: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/01/exclusive-samsung-to-start-rolling-out-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update-to-galaxy-note-4-by-the-end-of-july/
"Google revealed the developer preview of the next big version of its mobile device operating system – Android M – last week during Google I/O 2015, and the release of its final version is due in Q3 2015. Now, you must be thinking if Samsung is too slow in updating its existing smartphones and tablets to the latest version of Android.
Samsung has already improved its software update game starting this year, and it has already rolled out Lollipop update many existing devices. Now, Samsung is already testing beta versions of Android 5.1.1-based ROMs for various existing devices, and we’ve already shown you the upgraded camera app for the Galaxy S6 and the S6 edge that will be released with Android 5.1.1 update for the devices.
Many Galaxy Note 4 users are impatiently waiting for Samsung to release Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update for the device. Well, here’s some good news for those guys. According to our highly placed sources, Samsung is planning to release Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update to the Galaxy Note 4 by the end of July. As usual, we will be the first ones to show you the upcoming ROM running on the actual device."
:good:

5.1.1 was released on april 9 so this is somewhat fast considering that.
but never trust samsung and their time lines.

ravijani said:
5.1.1 was released on april 9 so this is somewhat fast considering that.
but never trust samsung and their time lines.
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Sammobile are usually pretty spot on, especially when it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder.

v5.1.1 is FINAL version of Lollipop - no memory management problems

Toss3 said:
Sammobile are usually pretty spot on, especially when it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder.
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how do u know it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder??????????

ravijani said:
how do u know it comes from someone high up the corporate ladder??????????
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"According to our highly placed sources..." (sammobile.com, 2015)
Says so right there. :good:

Good news

Do you also read that the new camera app will come to note 4 aswell?

I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:

very keen to see that!

Chad_Petree said:
I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:
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as an s6 edge user with note 4 i can say. new touchwiz is mostly same with what you are using on your note 4 with lollipop. but 1 exception performance of s6 is just sucks. insane ram usage, lags everywhere, crash etc. and people call it, its best touchwiz performance its basically a lie. its 1 of worst experiences i have ever had with an flagship device.
camera app just has different design capabilities are same pro mode is basically there for note 4 too.
only themes missing. others basically same.

tmac31 said:
as an s6 edge user with note 4 i can say. new touchwiz is mostly same with what you are using on your note 4 with lollipop. but 1 exception performance of s6 is just sucks. insane ram usage, lags everywhere, crash etc. and people call it, its best touchwiz performance its basically a lie. its 1 of worst experiences i have ever had with an flagship device.
camera app just has different design capabilities are same pro mode is basically there for note 4 too.
only themes missing. others basically same.
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Honestly I'm just hoping that the Note 5 is going to come with Android M out of the box at this point, because it truly makes a difference; in comparison to lollipop (5.1.1) on my Nexus 5 it's like night and day. Really fantastic update from google this time around.

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Honestly I'm just hoping that the Note 5 is going to come with Android M out of the box at this point, because it truly makes a difference; in comparison to lollipop (5.1.1) on my Nexus 5 it's like night and day. Really fantastic update from google this time around.
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i still didnt update my old nexus 5. ill try if its that different. i doubt note 5 will have android m out of the box. probably same thing will happen with note 4 and android m will release after note 5. hope it will be perfect on its release time unlike lollipop this year. 5.1.1 should have released as 5.0 last year so all companies could have done the updates fast and perfect.

Chad_Petree said:
I don't if it's indeed good news, I thought that we would get it by this month , can't wait to see sammobile do a preview , will we get the new touchwiz? The new camera app, the themes? So many questions :crying:
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I'm pretty sure that we'll get none of the features you mentioned.

I hope it is not another firmware number change & new theme to be used like the Lollipop 5.0.1
We need full active Lollipop the latest change in toggle, the new camera API 2 with RAW support & the new themes with other Galaxy S6 & Lollipop improvements.
not to forget battery life fix & RAM high usage.
for 32 bit or 64 bit matter I hope they activate 64 bit ability in Exynos version …………… that will be awesome.

Sadly, this update doesn't come with Camera 2 Api or S6 features. Just under the hood updates (memory bug fixes, etc).

galaxynote2 said:
Sadly, this update doesn't come with Camera 2 Api or S6 features. Just under the hood updates (memory bug fixes, etc).
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How do you know ? I think IF they're ever going to release camera 2 for the Note 4, they're going to do it with 5.1.1 release
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BTW I honestly feel the 5.1.1 update wasnt all that interesting (the CM users have been on it a while). The Nexus users reported some performance improvements but these were mainly due to kernel changes. So if Samsung did some good work there, it might be interesting. Otherwise, the 5.1.1. update is going to be quite a non event in my opinion.

I hope they include themes. As somebody on a non bootable US Carrier version, themes would at least allow me to stop looking at the same damn icons I've had on every Samsung device I've had over the last 5 years!

bbeelzebub said:
I hope they include themes. As somebody on a non bootable US Carrier version, themes would at least allow me to stop looking at the same damn icons I've had on every Samsung device I've had over the last 5 years!
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You don't like nova or action etc launchers?
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Change ur launcher. Solve the problem
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Note 4 5.1.1. update available (N910P)

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/10/galaxy-note-4-android-5-1-1-update-now-available-for-download/
It finally coming.

muamers said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/10/galaxy-note-4-android-5-1-1-update-now-available-for-download/
It finally coming.
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That's for sprint they've had this almost 2 weeks now already
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Dude, this is the build date ... it was released today.

muamers said:
Dude, this is the build date ... it was released today.
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The OTA went out over a week ago.
People have been posting their experiences here and at other Android Forums. If I'm not mistaken the T-Mobile Note 4 also got the OTA about a week ago.
SamMobile are not always fast at getting the complete FW, as OTAs tend to go out 1st.

muamers said:
Dude, this is the build date ... it was released today.
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Look on the sprint forums, they've had it for quite a while now
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muamers said:
Dude, this is the build date ... it was released today.
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I've had the tar file for nearly a week. I've made a zip of both the 910p and 910t3 5.1.1 releases but neither of them will boot on the 910f. Log says it failed due to modem so I'm guessing we need the non-hlos.bin for it to boot. So it's a no go for now but I do know someone got my n910t3 zip to boot on the tmob
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I've had the tar file for nearly a week. I've made a zip of both the 910p and 910t3 5.1.1 releases but neither of them will boot on the 910f. Log says it failed due to modem so I'm guessing we need the non-hlos.bin for it to boot. So it's a no go for now but I do know someone got my n910t3 zip to boot on the tmob
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So it's not a long way for waiting , I hope

It's definitely been out for a while, though I held off a few extra days for a tweaked, flashable ROM to show up. Didn't want to give up my unlocked OB7 bootloader or root.
Thankfully, it didn't take long for that to happen!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/romstockishno-knox-8-7-15-sprint-t3174350
Much faster, recents menu lag is practically gone, Gear VR performance is noticeably smoother (GPU driver regression fixed?), and all in all, I'm pleased. This is how Lollipop should have launched to begin with.
Here's hoping the other variants get caught up soon, you all deserve it. If anything, I'm surprised Sprint is, well, sprinting out the gate with these updates, especially compared to carrier-unlocked models!

NamelessFragger said:
It's definitely been out for a while, though I held off a few extra days for a tweaked, flashable ROM to show up. Didn't want to give up my unlocked OB7 bootloader or root.
Thankfully, it didn't take long for that to happen!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/development/romstockishno-knox-8-7-15-sprint-t3174350
Much faster, recents menu lag is practically gone, Gear VR performance is noticeably smoother (GPU driver regression fixed?), and all in all, I'm pleased. This is how Lollipop should have launched to begin with.
Here's hoping the other variants get caught up soon, you all deserve it. If anything, I'm surprised Sprint is, well, sprinting out the gate with these updates, especially compared to carrier-unlocked models!
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It's really weird that samsung isn't releasing the update to all users in all regions yet. Good to hear it is performing great! That at least we have something to look forward to.

Can someone with this ROM please download and run: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
to check if they implemented Camera API 2?

arovik said:
Can someone with this ROM please download and run: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
to check if they implemented Camera API 2?
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Is there any ROM really have that support ? I tried on CM12.1 but no luck

Still no update for the 910f wtf is going on
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arovik said:
Can someone with this ROM please download and run: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2_compatibility_test
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Unfortunately, not a single camera2 feature's supported there. Word is the S6 still doesn't fare any better in that department, so perhaps Samsung just doesn't care.
It's quite a shame, as it could make the Note 4 that extra bit better, but I guess we'll just have to yank the camera driver out of another IMX240-equipped phone that does. Can't think of much other recourse at this point if Samsung won't bother.

S6 supports RAW, S5 has been updated with it too.
Note 4 NOT.
f....ing Crapsung.

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S6 supports RAW, S5 has been updated with it too.
Note 4 NOT.
f....ing Crapsung.
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The S5 got DMG/RAW output? When did this happen?
Better check my mom's S5 then, it's still on OA6.

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The S5 got DMG/RAW output? When did this happen?
Better check my mom's S5 then, it's still on OA6.
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Two days ago I read about S6 firmware and I was mistaken - it was said:
Last week T-Mobile beat all other US carriers to the update, and in a surprise move began pushing out the Android 5.1.1 Lollipop update for the Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S6 Edge with new features, bug fixes, and improved performance. That same update is now headed to one more carrier in the United States, as well as the older Galaxy S5.
The Galaxy S6 Android 5.1.1 update will feature changes to Samsung’s 16 megapixel camera, or the app. Included is RAW support and custom ISO values for the camera. It’s also expected to feature iOS-style exposures that will allow users to manage their exposure with simple on-screen controls. This is in addition to the return of Guest Mode allowing for multiple user accounts on one device, new motion effects, and more quick settings controls.
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So it will be updated soon, not was updated.
My bad...

Note 4 N910F didn't get 5.1.1 yet

What is taking Samsung so long to update to LP 5.1.1 ?

I heard that LP 5.1.1 is the most stable. We are stuck in 5.0.2 on Note 4. So is my Tab S. So is my Alpha phone. All at 5.0.2
Why is Samsung so slow? I think they might have abandoned us.
Samsung screw up on Note 5 and all the updates are slow.
Its a bad company.

It's not Samsung. They updated. The update is now with US carriers. They are holding it up. Sprint, I believe, already pushed the 5.1.1 update to their phones a couple weeks ago.
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I heard from an a distant uncles girlfriend, second cousins best friends brother we should be getting it very soon.

There are a few 5.1.1 custom roms available. But if you are not rooted or you need T-Mobile features, you'll have to wait for T-Mobile to push the update.

Best decision I ever made was to install a custom rom. I currently have 5.1.1 and do not have to deal with the ever slowing TouchWiz. After StageFright was announce the very next day the developer of the rom i'm currently using patched it up, the only downside is I did have to sacrifice Wi-Fi calling but soon enough Android M will come out and that will fix it.

geez cant you wait, you see the C is getting the update, and then you make unnecessary threads about the update, just be patient..
if you cant wait, ill buy your note 4 for 200$ :victory:

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Best decision I ever made was to install a custom rom. I currently have 5.1.1 and do not have to deal with the ever slowing TouchWiz. After StageFright was announce the very next day the developer of the rom i'm currently using patched it up, the only downside is I did have to sacrifice Wi-Fi calling but soon enough Android M will come out and that will fix it.
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Which rom you using? I would love a debloat ed stock rom

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Which rom you using? I would love a debloat ed stock rom
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Been using PopRocks v10x and it is amazing, fast and stable. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...procks-rom-v1-tw-rom-bases-tmo-stock-t3096286 ). Now if you want to try 5.1.1 there are many choices to choose from and can recommend them all.

Just me, but I think Samsung is in no hurry to push it 5.1.1. I guess there mentality is if they (note 4)users want 5.1.1, buy a note 5, which for me it ain't happening.

My note 4 came with 5.1.1. There should be a few customs floating around, such as TekXodus.

Samsung and the note 5 is very disappointed. I will stay on Note 4

FUN FACT:
Tmobile already has 5.1.1 and it is installed on Note 4s with the SM-N910T3. You can buy it in the store right now or warranty your phone and get it. Both of those options will be faster than waiting for the carrier to release it.

Tmobile gets a thumb down for this move. Uncarry that update Uncarrier.

5.1.1 makes this phone fly i got the sprint version . Battery life gets alot better to and fixes all the bugs. Hope you guys get it soon or start porting it from the sprint version. We have a s6 edge + rom with note 5 extras running 5.1.1 and it makes the phone feel like a new phone working theme store and all

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5.1.1 makes this phone fly i got the sprint version . Battery life gets alot better to and fixes all the bugs. Hope you guys get it soon or start porting it from the sprint version. We have a s6 edge + rom with note 5 extras running 5.1.1 and it makes the phone feel like a new phone working theme store and all
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Does screen off memo and scroll capture work on that rom?

Heh. Same complaints every version updrade.

aznvi3tric3guy said:
Does screen off memo and scroll capture work on that rom?
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Screen off memo doesn't work yet and not sure if it will. Not sure a out scroll capture.
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so is N910T3UVU1DOFC not for our phone?

Dang, I wish they'd send the update

Why is samsung so SLOW with Android 6.0 update?

Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.

Derpling said:
Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Because Samsung has touchwiz and has to make it perfectly compatible. Takes a while.

That's not an excuse, HTC M9 getting 6.0 tommorow and A9 getting 6.0.1, G4 already getting 6 and G3 started to get it today... Samsung is soo late only now they releasing beta 6.0 to certain GS6 devices.

Yes, it IS an excuse. It is just one that you don't like.
Samsung is updating at the speed they want. I would fully bet that they were intentionally waiting for 6.0.1, as 6.0.0 likely had some issues they wanted to see fixed.
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I hope it's true and they learnt from their mistakes, i remember a lot of GS5 users complained about lollipop more than usually, same with 4.3 that was one of the worst updates sammy ever made.

For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.

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For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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That's i hope, the reason for beta testing and delays.

Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16

You are 100% guessing, not 100% sure... Lol
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manishvy said:
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
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If that would happen, that could backfire so fast specially since 6.0 was released to all other devices. heck G3 and GS5 released same year, yet G3 already getting android 6.0, idk if galaxy s5 will get it, and if it will probably Q2 2016... Samsung support is lacking and need to be changed, but since they beta testing android 6.0 now, i hope they won't use it as an excuse to "delay" it to until GS7 launches.

It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.

They can split the updates to two parts, the main Android 6.0 base update without updating the minor stuff like s health, themes, and just make S Pen compatible, then after short while release a package of updates android 6.0 updates, idk if it possible, but sure as hell Samsung could be faster, again if they put 6.0.1 with as little to no bugs, then i prefer it over rushed release.

why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...

umbrokhan said:
why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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They are for the s6 and edge+(UK and south korea). We'll see it in due time.

They must extend it to Note 5 at least.

Derpling said:
They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.

umbrokhan said:
maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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It's not going to happen

dr.ketan said:
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
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I think this time a little bit different. They seem want to improve their Rom quality, do it more carefully. Years ago I realize that Sam S series always be first to update because they are flagship and almost no special features like Note series. Absolutely I agree with you about Sam Roms are very different to HTC, LG.
But as Note 4 users, I was very angry about their update: no theme, no new features, no change on S Pen function, quite bad battery life.
Anyway, Samsung as most profitable Android OEM, have to change some points, do something better about update and Rom. We pay more, they do more better!

If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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I want 5.5-5.7" phone. Nexus 6 and 6P fit need but their battery life not so good. Note 5 just enough for me fullday usage only after extreme optimized/tweaked.