[Q] Slow Chargers? - Nexus 5X Accessories

So across all my devices I've always found my batteries last longer on each charge the slower I charge them. Used to be quality 0.5a - 0.7a chargers were easy to find. These days not so much, even many USB hubs are putting out 1.0a+ on charge ports.
Anyone found a decent low amperage charger?

OhioYJ said:
So across all my devices I've always found my batteries last longer on each charge the slower I charge them. Used to be quality 0.5a - 0.7a chargers were easy to find. These days not so much, even many USB hubs are putting out 1.0a+ on charge ports.
Anyone found a decent low amperage charger?
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I contacted Anker, as I have several of their chargers. They do not offer anything like this and suggested I just search Amazon. While they tried, I'd like to come up with a known good quality charger.
My other thought was to use a USB 2.0 hub, but I need to find one that is powered all the time, not just when the PC is on. The problem with most of them, is the ones that are powered when the PC is off, are charge ports and supply 1.0+ amps to those ports.

Looks like I found a solution to this. I already have a couple D-link USB hubs and have been doing some testing. They do indeed provide power across all 7 ports, without a PC hooked to them. All the tests below are using a in spec USB C to A cable (has the 56k resistor).
D-Link Hi-Speed USB 2.0 7-Port Powered Hub (DUB-H7) (<-- Amazon Link)
Using a cheap USB tester (so don't expect 100% accuracy), I'm seeing (no PC connected):
4.85volts - 0.36 amps on standard ports.
4.78volts - 0.45 amps on the charge ports
Tests below are just for reference, and seem to indicate that my "cheap" USB tester isn't too far off.
Anker 5 port USB charger I'm seeing:
5.19 - 2.35 amps
Official Apple charger (5v - 1.0a)
5.06 - 0.83 amps
Official Samsung charger (5v - 1.0a)
5.02 - 0.98 amps
Now time to see what the Anker is doing with other devices, and order a couple more D-link hubs.

My Amazon ordered arrived, and the new D-link hubs are Rev C1, but they function exactly as the Rev B1 I tested above.
On top of that I ordered a Anker USB 3.0 7-port hub as a replacement for hub for my desktop. To my surprise this would also work as a slow charger.
Anker USB 3.0 7-port hub
The 6 standard ports charge at 0.38 amps without a PC connected. The last port, which is a charging port, charges at 1.24 amps. So this would give a faster charging port if you needed it.
All the Android devices, bluetooth devices and cameras, all work fine charging from these ports (0.38 amp). The one exception is my wifes iPhone, it does not recognize them and will not charge from them. However if I use the charge port (0.45 amp on the dlink hub) it charges fine. Not sure why that little bit of a difference matters to the iphone, but it does.

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samsung galaxy s5 charging time. 2.0(micro usb) 3.0 cable

hello members.
i posted this thread as i dint found any comparision time for chargin between 2 diffrent cables. 2.0 vs 3.0
i found the same charging time on both 2.0(regular micro usb) vs 3.0
it seems 3.0 only helps for very fast data transfers..
(hope this info is useful
Yup.. There will be no difference in charging time as there are no power pins in the extra Usb 3 lines.
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I use USB 3.0 cables and it is much faster for both, charging and data transfer.
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declan8888 said:
I use USB 3.0 cables and it is much faster for both, charging and data transfer.
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Download galaxy charging lite from the play store and check the incoming current. It's the same for microusb 2.0 & 3.0.
Maximum of 1800, usually charges at 1200 w/ screen on.
If you claim that charging is faster with the multipurpose cable, show screenshots.
thachosenone said:
Maximum of 1800, usually charges at 1200 w/ screen on.
If you claim that charging is faster with the multipurpose cable, show screenshots.
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Apologies, I was incorrect. Falling for my own placebo!
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I have both s5 and note3, tested with both USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 charger. It's just same output, time or charging current. Transfer speed, I didn't know because my PC not have USB 3.0 port
fffft said:
Your conclusion is misleading. You probably won't find a difference between USB 2 & 3 if you are using data cables as your phone limits it's draw to about 0.5A to protect lower specd USB ports.
If you want faster charging and in particular, take advantage of the higher current that is available from AC adapters or many newer USB 2/3 ports, then you need to use a charging cable. This is not the same as a data (multipurpose) cable. A charging cable has the data lines shorted to tell the phone that you are connected to a high current or at least protected source and it should go ahead and draw as much current as it can use (or is available if the port is current limited, but protected).
Of course, it should go without saying that if you use a power cable with a conventional USB 2 port, you are circumventing the safety protection and may damage your USB port.
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This is interesting, my phone will recognize my (2 amp) AC charger as AC, yet with data cable it'll only go 550 ma according to that app (450 if recognized as USB). If I switch to a charging cable it'll take 1.2 amp from the same charger. Strange logic.
Well maybe its just me but my phone actually DOES seem to charge faster with the new 3.0. Like a lot faster.
Maybe it is "placebo" as you say but for me it really is faster. Just my 2cents.
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What lead comes with the Galaxy S5 in UK retail packaging?
Usb 2 unfortunately.
russ18uk said:
Usb 2 unfortunately.
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the cable doesnt make any difference its the charger that needs to be higher
It's the charger that should be shorting out the data lines, not the cable. I would think that a cable that did this would pose a risk that, if inadvertently used to connect a phone to a regular USB port instead of a charger, could cause the phone to think it can draw more power than the port can safely provide, and subsequently overload and damage the USB hub.
Whereas a charger that shorts out the data lines can be used with any standard USB cable.
Maximum power ratings are a different matter, though. AFAIK, standard USB 2.0 connectors only need to be rated at 1.5A current to be compliant, but charging ports and cables (i.e. those compliant with the Battery Charging Specification) need to be rated to handle at least 5A - although, this is in spite of the maximum draw of 1.5A anyway.
with USB 3.0 and standard charger reached battery from 12 percent to 92 about 80 min
I've heard about 20% charging difference and I think it's true
Mahdian57 said:
with USB 3.0 and standard charger reached battery from 12 percent to 92 about 80 min
I've heard about 20% charging difference and I think it's true
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This is about what I get with my supplied wall charger and cable. Its nice being able to use the phone and still get a charge at the same time. My Nexus 5 would only maintain a charge level and not gain any charge when being used.
One day last week I forgot my spare battery and had to use my mini USB cable I have at work connected to my computer and it took most of the day to go from 15% to full charge. The S5 has the best battery life out of any phone I've had so far but I wish they would release 4.4.4 for us as I saw a noticeable improvement in battery life with my Nexus 5 when i put 4.4.4 on it.
USB 3.0 Charging
So as most of you have come to realize, there is no difference in the basic way that USB 2.0 to USB 3.0 cables carry current to the device. The extra pins in a 3.0 cable are for full duplex, (bi-directional data transfer) at really fast speeds, up to 4 GB/s.
USB output is rated at 5V. The output current from different brand computers might reach 600ma. The current is regulated to avoid overheating the cable and computer power supply. The extra twisted pair of wire in a USB 3.0 cable enable a bit more current handling... up to 900ma.
The reason your newer Samsung charges the device faster is that the new power adapter (mine is white) has a current output of 2.0 Amps. The older power adapters had a rated output of 750ma, 3/4 of an amp. Result.. The new power adapter system facilitates fast charging.
I'm guessing that they spec'd the higher output charger to match the higher power usage profiles of the latest Samsung Galaxy products. I remain a fan of slow to medium charging rates to preserve the life and charge cycles of the battery. High rates yield more heat which can shorten the life of the cell structure.
Hope this explanation helps.
Chris
nikhilmulay said:
Yup.. There will be no difference in charging time as there are no power pins in the extra Usb 3 lines.
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Take heed of this response - it's the most useful one here. There is no difference between charging via a usb 2 and usb 3 cable as long as both are decent quality (recommended 23awg gauge minimum for 2amps).
The extra usb 3 pins don't carry any additional power wires.
Ensure you're using good quality cables as mentioned above - look for 23awg (gauge of the wires within the cable) printed on the cable (all original and genuine Samsung cables are rated at this) and a 2A charger (again, recommended to use original and genuine Samsung charger) and there will be absolutely no difference between usb 2 and 3 cables.
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usb 3 charges faster.
Those who say that usb 2 needs the same time as usb 3 don't know what they are talking about.
I won't talk or pretend that I know a lot about tech but here are some real results that doesn't come out of my head.
Usb 2 cables max amp is 450mha and I have tried 3 different cables a Motorola ,my HTC one X and a plain usb 2 cable that I have .All 3 of them gets 400 or 450 mha.
But when I use the original Samsung usb 3 ,a cheap China usb 3 or my black usb 3 from my external drive the Samsung let's 1800 mha to pass by.
All test are done with the original Samsung charger and a cheap 5 dollar one which I don't use much because when the phone is not charging it makes a weird sound.
And the only way what I say is not true is that my s5 detects the kind of usb I have and limits the charge which in result is the same thing.
thunderc8 said:
Those who say that usb 2 needs the same time as usb 3 don't know what they are talking about.
I won't talk or pretend that I know a lot about tech but here are some real results that doesn't come out of my head.
Usb 2 cables max voltage is 450mha and I have tried 3 different cables a Motorola ,my HTC one X and a plain usb 2 cable that I have .All 3 of them gets 400 or 450 mha.
But when I use the original Samsung usb 3 ,a cheap China usb 3 or my black usb 3 from my external drive the Samsung let's 1800 mha to pass by.
All test are done with the original Samsung charger and a cheap 5 dollar one which I don't use much because when the phone is not charging it makes a weird sound.
And the only way what I say is not true is that my s5 detects the kind of usb I have and limits the charge which in result is the same thing.
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Bless you.
So nice to finally realise there is such a limit to usb 2 cables.
Going to shoot myself quietly for living all this time in a lie.
Extra points for measuring Voltage in Amps.
ogremount said:
Bless you.
So nice to finally realise there is such a limit to usb 2 cables.
Going to shoot myself quietly for living all this time in a lie.
Extra points for measuring Voltage in Amps.
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There is no limit and this guy has no idea what he's talking about. There are no extra power wires in the usb cable - in both a usb2 & usb3 cables there is a positive and negative wire which provides power to the device period.
FYI, voltage and amps are 2 completely separate measurements which only compounds the stupidity of his response...
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Fast Charging Cables

I wanted to start a thread directly related to cables that are confirmed "charging rapidly." There are a handful of posts around here that talk about usb A to C but I had a hard time finding cables that actually brought the message up on my phone. Lastly before I start the list I wanted to mention that I understand the Nexus 5X I usb 2.0 only but just due to a future proofing mentality I prefer 3.0 cables.
I will update this thread accordingly as more people post results of cables that do support fast charging. During the testing make sure you are using a charger that supports high amperage output. I am using the following charger that supports 3.0 amp output per port.
Cables Confirmed Charging Rapidly
USB Type C To USB Type A Cable, TechMatte® USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) Type C (USB-C) Charging Data Sync Cable - Does not follow usb spec. [edit] as of 11/18 customers that have purchased this cable can request a new-to-spec cable from Techmatte and they will ship a new one. I will review the new unit when it comes in.
PECHAM B32 USB 3.1 Type C Male to Type A USB 3.0 Male Cable - usb spec. unconfirmed
Google - USB Type-C to USB Standard-A Plug Cable - Does follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
USB Type C Cable, CHOETECH 3.3ft - Does not follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
Cables Confirmed Not Charging Rapidly
BuyCheapCables® 6Ft. USB 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard Type-A Male - usb spec. unconfirmed
Juiced Systems USB-C (USB Type-C) to USB 3.0 - Does not follow usb spec.
USB 3.1 Type C Cable, JOTO USB-C 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard USB 3.0 Type A Male Charging Cable - Does not follow usb spec.
Type C, iOrange-E™ 6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector - Does follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
OnePlus Type-C Cable - Does not follow usb spec. (only usb 2.0)
Hi, I read a lot of fast charging cables...but did not noticed those..where is the techmatte confirmed? Tnx
fosser2 said:
I wanted to start a thread directly related to cables that are confirmed "charging rapidly." There are a handful of posts around here that talk about usb A to C but I had a hard time finding cables that actually brought the message up on my phone. Lastly before I start the list I wanted to mention that I understand the Nexus 5X I usb 2.0 only but just due to a future proofing mentality I prefer 3.0 cables.
I will update this thread accordingly as more people post results of cables that do support fast charging. During the testing make sure you are using a charger that supports high amperage output. I am using the following charger that supports 3.0 amp output per port.
Cables Confirmed Charging Rapidly
USB Type C To USB Type A Cable, TechMatte® USB 3.0 (USB 3.1 Gen 1) Type C (USB-C) Charging Data Sync Cable
Cables Confirmed Not Charging Rapidly
BuyCheapCables® 6Ft. USB 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard Type-A Male
Juiced Systems USB-C (USB Type-C) to USB 3.0
USB 3.1 Type C Cable, JOTO USB-C 3.1 Type-C Male to Standard USB 3.0 Type A Male Charging Cable
Type C, iOrange-E™ 6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector
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But beware some of those "fast charging USB A to C cable are not to spec according to Google engineer
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roxtedy169 said:
Hi, I read a lot of fast charging cables...but did not noticed those..where is the techmatte confirmed? Tnx
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I can confirm the techmatte cable is showing fast charging. I cannot confirm if the cable is actually to spec.
GreenDroidX said:
But beware some of those "fast charging USB A to C cable are not to spec according to Google engineer
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I totally understand. I have been reading all of the reviews that he has been posting. I will update the OP with approved cables later today if possible.
FWIW, the Juiced Systems cable shows 'Charging Rapidly' for me...
FWIW, https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable is back in stock.
iOrange-E cable shows rapid charge for me. Cost of cable has gone way up though though since I picked up mine. Probably not worth it.
I really hope this thread continues and gets more updates
banksc said:
FWIW, the Juiced Systems cable shows 'Charging Rapidly' for me...
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Could you link the cord that you bought? If it is the same one that is in the OP please link the charger you are using.
BinkXDA said:
FWIW, https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable is back in stock.
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Thank you, I have ordered this cable. I will review when it comes in.
elherr said:
iOrange-E cable shows rapid charge for me. Cost of cable has gone way up though though since I picked up mine. Probably not worth it.
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Interesting... I know for sure this cable did not show rapid charging on (2) Nexus 5X's that I tried it on. I was using a 3A charger. Are you sure it is the same one that is posted in the OP?
Tank87 said:
I really hope this thread continues and gets more updates
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I will do my best to keep it updated.
Here is the link to the Juiced cable I bought:
Juiced Systems USB-C
The charger is an iClever charger, don't have any details on it...
I have a Pecham branded A to C cable bought from Amazon for £6.59 so approx $10. Its well made, braided with metal housings for the connectors. Charging with this one shows Charging rapidly on the lockscreen.
I also have an A to C cable direct from the Google store £10 ($15) Also good quality but slimmer and much more flexible than the Pecham.
I only see Charging on the lockscreen using this one.
Despite the differences the Ampere app indicates a charge rate of Approx 1700mAH for both cables!
For these tests I used an Anker Powercore 20100 battery pack and an Anker 40W 5 port mains charger. charge rates were identical.
banksc said:
Here is the link to the Juiced cable I bought:
Juiced Systems USB-C
The charger is an iClever charger, don't have any details on it...
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It is interesting that you were able to get this cable to register as charging rapidly. It is the exact same cable that I bought and returned and with a 3A charger it did not register as charging rapidly on my phone. For right now I will leave this cable in the category that it is in until further confirmation. I wonder if it is a charger specific thing?
basill said:
I have a Pecham branded A to C cable bought from Amazon for £6.59 so approx $10. Its well made, braided with metal housings for the connectors. Charging with this one shows Charging rapidly on the lockscreen.
I also have an A to C cable direct from the Google store £10 ($15) Also good quality but slimmer and much more flexible than the Pecham.
I only see Charging on the lockscreen using this one.
Despite the differences the Ampere app indicates a charge rate of Approx 1700mAH for both cables!
For these tests I used an Anker Powercore 20100 battery pack and an Anker 40W 5 port mains charger. charge rates were identical.
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I have added the Pecham cable to the OP. Thanks for the confirmation. I am getting the Google OEM cable A - C tomorrow. I will see if I can reproduce the results that you got with the OEM cable.
fosser2 said:
Interesting... I know for sure this cable did not show rapid charging on (2) Nexus 5X's that I tried it on. I was using a 3A charger. Are you sure it is the same one that is posted in the OP?
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Cable:
iOrange-E 6.6ft cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W
Charger I am using:
Anker 3 port 6 amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9D7RSM
My 5X shows "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen right now. It does not show that every time I plug it in -- but then again, neither does the stock charger.
elherr said:
Cable:
iOrange-E 6.6ft cable
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W
Charger I am using:
Anker 3 port 6 amp
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00T9D7RSM
My 5X shows "Charging rapidly" on the lock screen right now. It does not show that every time I plug it in -- but then again, neither does the stock charger.
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Up until tonight I didn't realize that charging rapidly does not show every time. I will dig into this further this week. I will also be adding the official OEM A to C cable from Google to the list.
I'm confused, I thought USB A to C can only suppose 2.4A max
You're using a charging brick that uses 3A output, does that mean .6A does not get used?
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Ironically "fast charging cables" are just out-of-specification cables, so if you want them just pay $1 for cables on eBay.
sturmeh said:
Ironically "fast charging cables" are just out-of-specification cables, so if you want them just pay $1 for cables on eBay.
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The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
fosser2 said:
The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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The OEM Google cable (USB-A to USB-C) does not fast charge when you plug it into a non-fast charging compatible source (such as a PC's USB ports).
Any USB-C cable should be capable of fast charging when plugged into an adapter rated for 3A current draw.
Cables that are not to spec will allow the phone to "charge rapidly" when it should not be charging rapidly.
fosser2 said:
The OEM Google cable display's fast charging and that is not out of spec. Really the purpose of this thread is to find cables that are actually following the USB spec and allowing the message "charging rapidly" to display on your phone. I understand that the max a cable that is to spec. will put out is 2.4A.
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It displays fast charging because C -> C allows for more amps to be drawn
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It displays fast charging because C -> C allows for more amps to be drawn
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I agree with that, but there are certain cables that still follow the A -> C spec and allow "charging rapidly" when paired with the proper charger. I know they won't be capable of the full 2.8A - 3.0A but they can allow a max of 2.4A, and that's something that is ok with me.

TechMatte USB Type C Cable to USB C Charging / Sync Cable (6.6 FT)

Wanted a longer cable than what is original equipment for my Nexus 5x.
Grabbed this 6 footer and found the following....
A well made cable with good strain relief on the connector ends. The wire is very flexible and easy to position. Doesn't "fight back" like a lot of cables will.
Charges my Nexus 5x at 1200mA when attached to the oem charger. That's enough to charge rapidly.
This is not as much current delivery as the oem cable (1725mA) BUT, this cable is twice as long and well within the expected numbers for its length.
The fastest charging takes place with the shortest cable as current drop is related to the resistance in the cable and more cable equals more resistance.
This length is a great compromise from the stock cable as one is not always within 3' of a wall outlet.
ChauncyG
I have 2 of these cables, and these wont have "as much current delivery" because they have the 56k pull up resistor. They are considered to be in spec. My TechMatte cables (all 4 of them) won't make the phone report as "charging rapidly" though.
If you want a longer cable that is cable of faster charging you need to buy one of the "out of spec" cables. I have two of the JOTO cables that will do the rapid charging from ports that can supply that much power. They still slow charge from lower output chargers and PC ports though, assuming the hardware you are plugging it into is properly designed and limits output current (everything I have tried is). The JOTO cables are definitely heavier feeling (high quality) than the tech matte cables.
The JOTO cables are definitely heavier feeling (high quality) than the tech matte cables.
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Seconded. My Joto USB A to C cable feels solid and well built, supports rapid charging, and supports USB 3.1 file transfer.
OhioYJ said:
I have 2 of these cables, and these wont have "as much current delivery" because they have the 56k pull up resistor. They are considered to be in spec. My TechMatte cables (all 4 of them) won't make the phone report as "charging rapidly" though.
If you want a longer cable that is cable of faster charging you need to buy one of the "out of spec" cables. I have two of the JOTO cables that will do the rapid charging from ports that can supply that much power. They still slow charge from lower output chargers and PC ports though, assuming the hardware you are plugging it into is properly designed and limits output current (everything I have tried is). The JOTO cables are definitely heavier feeling (high quality) than the tech matte cables.
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Good to know. That said and acknowledged, my N5x does show "charging rapidly" when attached with this cable to the oem charger.
What is the current draw on your phone, at 50% depletion, when you plug it with your oem charger? Just curious.
Do you know what the threshold is for the device reporting "rapid charge"?
ChauncyG said:
Good to know. That said and acknowledged, my N5x does show "charging rapidly" when attached with this cable to the oem charger.
What is the current draw on your phone, at 50% depletion, when you plug it with your oem charger? Just curious.
Do you know what the threshold is for the device reporting "rapid charge"?
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I don't know. Best I can tell charging is 0.9 - 1.9 amps roughly. Slow charging is 0.5-0.7 amps. Rapid charging is anything above 2.0 amps. Seems like these figures should be some where easy to find, but I haven't found them yet.
The only OEM charger I have is the USB C one, so I can't test it with A to C cables. Neither length of my tech matte cables will "charge rapidly" from my Anker charger (Which can provide 2.4 amps to single port), whereas the JOTO cables will. This make sense though, as the 56k pullup resistor in the TechMatte cables should limit current to 0.5a on USB 2.0 ports, and 0.9a on USB 3.0 ports.
All I have is going directly back and forth between the TechMatte (in spec cables) and JOTO (out of spec). My Anker charger will charge rapidly with the JOTO cables, it will not charge rapidly from the TechMatte. Both cables report charging slowly from old 0.5 amp chargers. Both cables pass the Checkr app as well though.
Since this cable is USB C to USB C I don't think the pull up 56k resister would apply to the construction of this cable, would it?
I only have the oem charger with C port in it as well so I can't do any other C to C testing as none of my other device sources have USB C ports.
ChauncyG said:
Since this cable is USB C to USB C I don't think the pull up 56k resister would apply to the construction of this cable, would it?
I only have the oem charger with C port in it as well so I can't do any other C to C testing as none of my other device sources have USB C ports.
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Haha, so I'm a moron, and didn't realize (read) you got the C only cable. You are correct the 56k only applies to C to A cables.
So, I'm seeing some adapters that have USB-A output and say that they support 5V/3A output.
Do some of these USB 3.1 A to C cables support 5V/3A charging?
I initially read that it would only work with USB-C cables (not the A->C adapter cables)
Am I going to be able to do this, or is an OEM type adapter/cable my only option?
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I was looking at this
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BBOE5A4
And
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YT688U0

[Review] Tronsmart QC 2.0 Dual & Quad Port Car chargers, 3 Port QC 2.0 Wall Charger

[Review] Tronsmart QC 2.0 Dual & Quad Port Car chargers, 3 Port QC 2.0 Wall Charger
Tronsmart Quick Charge 2.0 Product Reviews
Disclaimer: I was sent these items in exchange for an unbiased review.
I will update this OP with any changes, issues, or other information as it comes up.
Tronsmart 3 Port 42W Quick Charge 2.0 Wall Travel Charger
Overview
I have accumulated a lot of devices that for better or worse need to be charged during the day sometimes all at once. For this reason, I usually carry a small battery pack or multi-port wall charger, along with some cables, adapters, and various other things. Tronsmart made a nice compact wall charger that is ideal for people who travel or on the go. I usually have a mullti-port charger or two at home (Tronsmart Titan 90W 5 port hub on my desk), and another multi-port hub on my nightstand. I always need more ports for one reason or another hence why I like having the most compact, powerful chargers that I can.
What’s in the box
-Tri-port charger
-Documentation
-Micro USB cable
Build & Design
Tronsmart makes one of my favorite looking chargers out there. The edges have a glossy finish to them that leads you into matte colored body. On one side you will see Tronsmart’s logo along with a small LED light that will light up to indicate when you’re charging. If you look at the opposite side the rated inputs/outputs for each port are specified along with a label for which ports have VoltIQ, and QC 2.0. One of the best features of this charger besides its 3 ports is the folding plug which makes it ideal for traveling/on the go.
Charging
The Quick Charge 2.0 port will allow you to charge any compatible QC 2.0 enabled device at a range of voltages/rates depending on how low the battery is. I was able to charge my S7 Edge at 9V/1.67A just like the stock Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger does. Since the S7 Edge is only rated for 9V/1.67A (15.03W) it won’t charge at a faster rate than that no matter how powerful the charger. The other two ports use VoltIQ which is another way of saying it will tell the device to charge at it’s maximum 5V rate up to 2.4A. I tested this with my S7 Edge and was able to get ~5V/1.7A which is the same output as the factory charger at the battery level I tested. Since this charger is rated for 42W which means each port can output its maximum rate simultaneously for maximum charging efficiency with multiple devices.
Charging breakdown by port
QC 2.0: 5V/2A, 9V/2A, 12V/1.5A
2x Standard Port (with VoltIQ): 5V/2.4A each
Summary
This is yet another great charger from Tronsmart (I have a lot of others that were reviewed as well) that has a nice overall design. This charger has a lot to offer in a small package coupled with a solid build that should last for a long time.
Tronsmart 4 Port Quick Charge 2.0 54W Car Charger
Overview
There is always a time that I need to charge things as I mentioned above when outlets are limited. I have a dash camera in my car that occupies one of my power outlets, so I only have 1 other easily accessible place to plug in a charger. When I go on road trips it’s nice to be able to charge my phone as well as my wife’s along with a tablet or two thanks to the wide array of ports offered with this charger.
What’s in the box
-Tronsmart Quad Port 54W Car Charger
- 3.3[ft] micro USB cable
-Documentation
Build & Design
The charger is made from plastic, but it has a nice texture to it just like the tri-port wall charger. I’ve owned and used another Tronsmart car charger (Type-C/Type-A) since December without any issues. It has really come in handy over the past couple of months thanks to its versatility, just like this one will. While this charger is quite large it packs a punch with its 4 ports while still compact for what it offers. It’s not easy to fit a large number of ports in a charger that has to fit in a confined area, but I like the overall way Tronsmart designed this one. I had no issues fitting the charger in my car, and using all of the ports, but that depends on where your outlet is located.
Charging
I tested each of the ports simultaneously with 3 of my phones, and a battery pack to ensure the charger worked as intended. I had no issues charging all 4 devices from the charger making this ideal for anyone that needs to make use of their car charger.
Charging breakdown by port:
Ports 1,2,3: 5V/2.4A (Max)
Port 4 (QC 2.0) Quick charge 5V/2A, 9V/2A , 12V/1.5A (Max)
Summary
This large 4 port charger might not be for everyone, but if you need to power a large amount of devices simultaneously than it’s an ideal choice due to its large power output.
Tronsmart 36W Dual Port Quick Charge 2.0 Car Charger
Overview
This charger is a much more compact, but still versatile dual port QC 2.0 enabled (on both ports) car charger. The overall quality/materials remain the same as the previous 4 port car charger which is a good thing. I switched from my Type-C/Type-A 33W car charger to this one in order to see how it works, and because I can still charge both my S7 Edge and Nexus 6P from it. So far over the past couple days of using this one I haven’t encountered any issues, but I will update the OP if I do.
What’s in the box
-Tronsmart Dual Port 36W Car Charger
- 2x 3.3[ft] 20AWG micro USB cables
-Documentation
Build & Design
The ports are colored (green or blue usually indicate QC 2.0 on Tronsmart chargers) while the back ports are the standard VoltIQ. For this particular one, both ports are green which is indicative of a QC 2.0 charger. There is ample spacing between both ports to accommodate any size cable that I have including: Tronsmart, Choetech, Aukey, Samsung, Google, i-Orange, Asus, Anker and many others. I haven’t found a set of cables that won’t work side-by-side in this charger. Unlike other chargers, this one doesn’t sit flush with the outlet which to me is a good thing. I always find it hard to remove the chargers that don’t protrude slightly, so I appreciate that part of the design.
Charging
Each port is capable of a 18W output which is the maximum you will ever need on a QC 2.0 enabled device. The S7 Edge can only take 15.03W (9V/1.67A), so this charger will fast charge it at the same rate as the Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger. I tested both ports with my multi-meter to ensure they lived up to their ratings.
Charging breakdown by port:
5V/2A, 9V/2A , 12V/1.5A
Summary
I have no issues with the overall design or build of this car charger, plus with the added versatility of a second QC 2.0 port it has a lot to offer. Not all chargers offer their full power output while charging multiple devices, but thankfully this one does. I don’t see any reason not to recommend it because it’s been great.
Tronsmart Micro USB Cable 6 Pack (20AWG)
Overview
I always need more cables because for some reason I either misplace them, or forget to bring them with me. I like how Tronsmart offers a large pack of cables (6 in this set) in varying sizes depending on what you might need. I usually keep the shortest one (1[ft]) in my backpack to go along with an external battery pack I carry with me. The longer ones usually find their way onto my desk or night stand because it’s nice to have the extra length so I can keep all of my devices separate & not clustered together while charging.
What’s in the box
-1[ft] micro USB cable
-2x 3.3[ft] micro USB cables
-3x 6[ft] micro USB cables
Build & Design
These cables have a larger gauge wire (20AWG) which should decrease the resistance thus allowing for less current drop in the longer variants. The connectors work well with any of my 10+ S7E cases, and they are slightly smaller physically than the Samsung one. You won’t have any issues bending these like some higher gauge cables which makes wrapping them up for storage easy.
Charging
I tested each cable length via my multi-meter to see if there was any current/voltage drop while charging my phone. I did not see any measurable drop even for the longer 6[ft] cable, so you should be able to fast charge your phone with any of them without sacrificing cable length.
Summary
I’ve actually owned a pack of these for a while now before receiving this set, and I’ve enjoyed using them. I haven’t had any of them break, fail, or otherwise suffer from flaws during my 5 months using the previous set. I enjoy the large variety of sizes offered because it allows you use a cable that suits your needs rather than one that’s too long/short.
Nice chargers. Quick chargers are very convenient. But where are the product links?
jisddwqs said:
Nice chargers. Quick chargers are very convenient. But where are the product links?
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They were omitted because XDA likes to close OP's and mark them as spam if you include the product links as I've found out.
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A comprehensive review, the chargers' design are nice, I like the round edges and corners.
Gold-plated cables seems high-end, I will search and try one of those chargers & cables.
yes it is a pity that XDA doesn't like to paste the links in the topics but what if we would google them and find them ebay or amazon and they are clones or fake.
so when connected in the car with 12V it gives 1.5A to instead of 2.4A?
Is this as good as the ones from Aukey?
Abelu said:
A comprehensive review, the chargers' design are nice, I like the round edges and corners.
Gold-plated cables seems high-end, I will search and try one of those chargers & cables.
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The cables are all still working great; I have them in various areas to charge my numerous devices, headphones etc.
Liquid Li0n said:
yes it is a pity that XDA doesn't like to paste the links in the topics but what if we would google them and find them ebay or amazon and they are clones or fake.
so when connected in the car with 12V it gives 1.5A to instead of 2.4A?
Is this as good as the ones from Aukey?
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It is unfortunate, and as much as I would like to post them I can't without having the OP get locked like some others I've written up. Even when I buy products and link them it raises flags for some reason, bht thags neither here nor there
The input rating if the charger is different than the output. I charged a AC 2.0 batter pack at 12V/1.5A which is the highest 12V rate that the charger is rated for. I have a Power Partners 30W single port QC 2.0 charger somewhere that will output somewhere around that in terms of the 12V but I've never tested it.
so when used in a car with 12v sigarette lighter plug it will never get higher then 1.5A or is it only this one? Are there other chargers that get more amps though that 12v port then this one?
The reason I ask is because when my phone is connected to the 12v car charger it does not get charged while using it with max brightness, gps, 4g, 2 or 3 apps at the same time, ...
Liquid Li0n said:
so when used in a car with 12v sigarette lighter plug it will never get higher then 1.5A or is it only this one? Are there other chargers that get more amps though that 12v port then this one?
The reason I ask is because when my phone is connected to the 12v car charger it does not get charged while using it with max brightness, gps, 4g, 2 or 3 apps at the same time, ...
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As I mentioned the input current will be at 12V from the car, but it can also output at 12V via the QC standard. I can charge 2 phones (1 on each port with multimeters connected) to see he max current I can draw which should be the rated 33W if I recall correctly.
Great info you have here. lol

supercharge car charger?

And 6ft usb c that supports supercharge?
I've Ankey 1 USB Quick Charge 3.0 and working fine on my MAte 10 Pro with Waze started. Mobile charging (but slower than original charger it's logical regarding Quick charge 3.0).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075CGTRR7/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06ZZBVSYK/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is what I found on Amazon for the best price at the time. Yes the car charger does Super Charge.
You need 5A Charger and cable for the supercharge (or at least something near)
Does 2.4A work, too.? Of course with slower charging rates but using the whole 2.4A? Want to use it with a supercharge cable.
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Does 2.4A work, too.? Of course with slower charging rates but using the whole 2.4A? Want to use it with a supercharge cable.
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Yes. It will work, I currently use an Anker charger. It's just a bit slower than Supercharge.
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Has anyone found an adaptor that allows 3.5mm jack for audio and USB C for charging that supports fast charging at all? Even 2.4a would be ok. I have found one online from flosmall that claims 2a, but I don't know if that's really enough. I regularly run Waze and listen to podcasts (downloaded) or Spotify (streaming) and the adaptor I got off eBay charges really, really slow. I also need a new car charger, so the responses in this thread have already been helpful on that front.
You can buy an original Huwaei Car Charger with SuperCharge support at http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qjQJqba
I am asking about a 6ft usb cable that support supercharge, I have no idea why everyone talking about Qualcomm charger, this is not a Samsung thread smh
https://www.amazon.es/Acocobuy-Carg...8&qid=1521544897&sr=8-11&keywords=cargador+5a
This one has 2.4a and Supercharge 3.0
I got myself original Huawei AP38 car charger and it came with cable in package. Works absolutely like a charm and it is well worth the money. No difference from wall charger in terms of charging speed
There are plenty usb cables that work with supercharge just look for one that supports 5A current. I have a very long one close to 2m/6ft, works very well with huawei car charger and normal charger
The thing with supercharge and the cables is that most chargin technologies require a maximum of 2 or 3A. Up to 3A is a usb standard so all usb cables support that. A higher current is usually never needed because standard usb protocols dont support it. 5A current requires a different structure of the cable. And since supercharge uses up to 5A current we need to get special cables.
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I am asking about a 6ft usb cable that support supercharge, I have no idea why everyone talking about Qualcomm charger, this is not a Samsung thread smh
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This one works with Supercharge and is 2M long this one
Car charger supercharge original with 1M cable here
$7.50 USD and it works fine as a Super Charger - just need to make sure the cable is rated to 5A - https://www.tomtop.com/p-k6492.html...878GgH-bDYvgzzFhq5JIYDMB9v0dEw8YaAucfEALw_wcB

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