After reading all the threads about rooting the new S6 (technically the inability to root) and all the talk about unlocking, I am not quite clear on if there is a round-about way to get root. Can I: unlock my phone, put in another carriers SIM (like T-Mobile) and with that SIM in root the phone? Is it possible to roll back the operating system back to one that does have a vulnerability to allow root.
What makes AT&T version unable to root when it runs the same operating system as T-Mobile (I am assuming they run the same operating system). Why is it so definitive that there won't be a root for this phone?
I am have read articles, but I want to hear a dumbed-down, to the point explanation from people who understand how this works.
Thanks!
On the att model the bootloader is locked down tight whereas on tmo it can be unlocked. That is the issue. The things you mentioned won't work unfortunately.
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fitzumwell said:
After reading all the threads about rooting the new S6 (technically the inability to root) and all the talk about unlocking, I am not quite clear on if there is a round-about way to get root. Can I: unlock my phone, put in another carriers SIM (like T-Mobile) and with that SIM in root the phone? Is it possible to roll back the operating system back to one that does have a vulnerability to allow root.
What makes AT&T version unable to root when it runs the same operating system as T-Mobile (I am assuming they run the same operating system). Why is it so definitive that there won't be a root for this phone?
I am have read articles, but I want to hear a dumbed-down, to the point explanation from people who understand how this works.
Thanks!
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You're asking a few different questions so i will try to answer them as best I can.
1st things 1st. All versions of the GS6 can be rooted. However, the AT&T and Verizon versions have locked bootloaders which mean that as of right now, there is no way to flash a custom recovery making it impossible flash roms. Having a rooted phone with a locked bootloader is fine as you can still install apps that require root it really just means no custom recovery and no custom roms.
The other thing about using a different sim card is called SIM UNLOCKING or carrier unlocking. This is something that the original carrier should do for you for free once you've paid the device off and do not owe anything on it. Also, most carriers like T-Mobile will not unlock it for you until you've used the phone on their network for at least 40 days (dont quote me on that, its 40 give or take 5 days)
So, to be clear its not rooting that allows you to use a foreign sim its SIM unlocking and this can be done for free by the carrier once you pay the phone off.
All versions of the GS6 can be rooted its just some even after you root will not be able install custom roms.
Hope this helps.
Also, if you are on at&t but dont wanna be stuck with a locked bootloader you may wanna consider buying a factory unlocked phone. They cost a little bit more but they are already unlocked so using T-Mobile or AT&T on most unlocked models is easy as changing the sim card. AND since they have unlocked bootloaders all you have to do is root it and you are free to install whatever custom rom you want.
Good luck!
jimmiekain said:
You're asking a few different questions so i will try to answer them as best I can.
1st things 1st. All versions of the GS6 can be rooted. However, the AT&T and Verizon versions have locked bootloaders which mean that as of right now, there is no way to flash a custom recovery making it impossible flash roms. Having a rooted phone with a locked bootloader is fine as you can still install apps that require root it really just means no custom recovery and no custom roms.
The other thing about using a different sim card is called SIM UNLOCKING or carrier unlocking. This is something that the original carrier should do for you for free once you've paid the device off and do not owe anything on it. Also, most carriers like T-Mobile will not unlock it for you until you've used the phone on their network for at least 40 days (dont quote me on that, its 40 give or take 5 days)
So, to be clear its not rooting that allows you to use a foreign sim its SIM unlocking and this can be done for free by the carrier once you pay the phone off.
All versions of the GS6 can be rooted its just some even after you root will not be able install custom roms.
Hope this helps.
Also, if you are on at&t but dont wanna be stuck with a locked bootloader you may wanna consider buying a factory unlocked phone. They cost a little bit more but they are already unlocked so using T-Mobile or AT&T on most unlocked models is easy as changing the sim card. AND since they have unlocked bootloaders all you have to do is root it and you are free to install whatever custom rom you want.
Good luck!
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Thank you so much for clarifying that for me but that leaves me with more questions. So you are saying I can still root my ATT phone? I need root access for giving root privileges to other apps and not to flash custom roms. I want to be able to remove bloatware and tweak the performance of the phone. Is that a different kind of root? I rooted my GS4 with an app I put on the phone and not with Odin. Is that what I need to do again if I am not planning on modding my rom?
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Thank you so much for clarifying that for me but that leaves me with more questions. So you are saying I can still root my ATT phone? I need root access for giving root privileges to other apps and not to flash custom roms. I want to be able to remove bloatware and tweak the performance of the phone. Is that a different kind of root? I rooted my GS4 with an app I put on the phone and not with Odin. Is that what I need to do again if I am not planning on modding my rom?
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So you are saying I can still root my ATT phone? YES BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY BECAUSE THE BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED. WITHOUT A CUSTOM RECOVERY, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL ROMS.
I need root access for giving root privileges to other apps and not to flash custom roms. YES AND NO, YOU NEED ROOT TO GIVE ROOT PRIVS TO OTHER APPS BUT ITS NOT ROOT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO INSTALL CUSTOM ROMS, ITS BOTH ROOT AND A CUSTOM BOOTLOADER.
I want to be able to remove bloatware and tweak the performance of the phone. YOU CAN DO THAT WITH ROOT. NO CUSTOM ROM REQUIRED.
Is that a different kind of root? THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND OF ROOT, THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO ROOT BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND. EITHER YOU ARE ROOTED OR YOU ARE NOT.
I rooted my GS4 with an app I put on the phone and not with Odin. Is that what I need to do again if I am not planning on modding my rom? YOU CAN USE ODIN, YOU MAY ALSO BE ABLE TO DO IT USING THE APP METHOD BUT I DONT KNOW FOR SURE.
SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG TO RESPOND, I'VE BEEN SHOPPING AROUND FOR AN UNLOCKED GS6 MYSELF.
Hope this helps.
Can you link me to a root method that doesn't trip Knox? I have the att S6
xXQuintonXx said:
Can you link me to a root method that doesn't trip Knox? I have the att S6
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We don't have one yet.
SilkyJohnson said:
We don't have one yet.
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Is there a way to remove Knox so we can root?
Your a Big Help
jimmiekain said:
So you are saying I can still root my ATT phone? YES BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY BECAUSE THE BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED. WITHOUT A CUSTOM RECOVERY, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL ROMS.
I need root access for giving root privileges to other apps and not to flash custom roms. YES AND NO, YOU NEED ROOT TO GIVE ROOT PRIVS TO OTHER APPS BUT ITS NOT ROOT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO INSTALL CUSTOM ROMS, ITS BOTH ROOT AND A CUSTOM BOOTLOADER.
I want to be able to remove bloatware and tweak the performance of the phone. YOU CAN DO THAT WITH ROOT. NO CUSTOM ROM REQUIRED.
Is that a different kind of root? THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND OF ROOT, THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO ROOT BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND. EITHER YOU ARE ROOTED OR YOU ARE NOT.
I rooted my GS4 with an app I put on the phone and not with Odin. Is that what I need to do again if I am not planning on modding my rom? YOU CAN USE ODIN, YOU MAY ALSO BE ABLE TO DO IT USING THE APP METHOD BUT I DONT KNOW FOR SURE.
SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG TO RESPOND, I'VE BEEN SHOPPING AROUND FOR AN UNLOCKED GS6 MYSELF.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you so much for explaining all that for me. I guess there aren't many people out there that want root without the expectation to flash their ROM. I will keep researching till I find a way to get root where I don't need to flash the ROM with it.
fitzumwell said:
Thank you so much for explaining all that for me. I guess there aren't many people out there that want root without the expectation to flash their ROM. I will keep researching till I find a way to get root where I don't need to flash the ROM with it.
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You can root without flashing a rom.
jimmiekain said:
You can root without flashing a rom.
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How can that be done? Everyone says there is no point so noone is coding it? Am I missing something?
Now that you AT&T & Verizon users have root (Ping-pong Root)
You can't flash other custom recovery/Kernels/Roms becauce the bootloder are still locked, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
What about what happend in S5 lile safestrap?
Can anyone do it in S6/S6E?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794087
Hello, I want to root my new Xperia Z3 Compact just to uninstall the carrier's bloatware. It came with 23.1.A.1.28 (i exchanged it for a new galaxy alpha, it was bought at the beginning of June ).
Rooting status says : Bootloader unlock allowed : No.
I don't even want to try to unlock it. Is it possible to downgrade the firmware with locked bootloader?
Will i lose anything? If possible, I'd really like to have a complete guide on both downgrading, rooting and upgrading back.
Thanks.
Hm, that's weird, I've checked "Search" and it's working just fine. Use search or check sticky next time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343
sorry and thank you, i did actually try searching for it but i was overwhelmed by what came up and lot's of it lead to guides containing unlocking the bootloader and i'm not really confident tinkering with android much
U can root with downgrade method. But thats all since u cannot unlock ur bootloader. If u follow the posted guide u should get it. Have done it with the guide without unlocking
great, I was kind of confused, I thought i need to unlock the bootloader to flash anything, including the downgrade
T-Mobile just pushed out the 5.1.1 update this morning and I hopped on it instantly. I was just wondering is it possible to root my phone in its current state (23.4.A.0.580) or do I have to downgrade and then upgrade again? This is my first real phone and I want to debloat it and get AdAway and all of the other fun Android stuff to get the best experience. I still have a 1.5 year warranty and from what I read unlocking my bootloader will void that. Are there any methods/guides to root my phone, downgrade, root, then upgrade again, etc. without unlocking my bootloader? Thanks in advance!
zarzuh said:
T-Mobile just pushed out the 5.1.1 update this morning and I hopped on it instantly. I was just wondering is it possible to root my phone in its current state (23.4.A.0.580) or do I have to downgrade and then upgrade again? This is my first real phone and I want to debloat it and get AdAway and all of the other fun Android stuff to get the best experience. I still have a 1.5 year warranty and from what I read unlocking my bootloader will void that. Are there any methods/guides to root my phone, downgrade, root, then upgrade again, etc. without unlocking my bootloader? Thanks in advance!
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Start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/ref-roms-guides-tutorials-faqs-t3035066
And use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343
And please read the thread even if its very long - all questions regarding rooting are ask and answered already...
I'm also quite new on this phone - But after reading this (the OP and thread!), you'll know everything needed!
But to answer your queston: You have to go back to KK to do initial rooting...
Hi all,
I am currently OTA updated to 5.1.1 OJ3 and as I understand there is not a way to unlock the boot loader without affecting the warranty counter.
This begs a question. Say I am out of warranty and DONT CARE if my counter shows a modified boot loader. Is there a way to flash an unlocked boot loader and root the device?
Fill me in.
Previously I used to root all my phones but I missed the opportunity on this one back at 4.4
shenweas said:
Hi all,
I am currently OTA updated to 5.1.1 OJ3 and as I understand there is not a way to unlock the boot loader without affecting the warranty counter.
This begs a question. Say I am out of warranty and DONT CARE if my counter shows a modified boot loader. Is there a way to flash an unlocked boot loader and root the device?
Fill me in.
Previously I used to root all my phones but I missed the opportunity on this one back at 4.4
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No way to unlock bootloader, currently no way to root 5.1.1
i would have though that since verizon has allowed unlocking of the BL on their S5's i figured at&t would have followed suit.
darthmalus said:
i would have though that since verizon has allowed unlocking of the BL on their S5's i figured at&t would have followed suit.
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Um no they haven't!
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Hello everyone. I am not new to rooting and flashing custom roms but i have never had more trouble than with these samsung phones. I have a Note 4 from TMobile( model in title of thread). I need help rooting, unlocking the bootloader, and flashing custom roms. Based on what i see this basically voids the warranty which im ok with. I just worry about bricking my phone with the wrong tools because i see 2 variants of the note 4 for Tmobile. So does anyone have any info on the root/ bootloader unlocking process for the SM-N910T3 variant?
I downloaded kingo root from the playstore, 1 click, it did it. if it dont work the first time, reboot and try it again.