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I'm running SS 3.05 and have been able to flash several roms (all GB because I need a camera) that others rave about. I have not gotten good performance out of any of them. The worst ones seem to cause almost non-stop force closes on apps while the "best" ones function but my phone runs very hot even when not being used. Just tried Steel Droid 5 over the weekend and I at least got it up and running but the phone was noticeably hot even when just sitting on the counter with the screen off.
I've uninstalled and reinstalled Safestrap a couple of times, deleted and recreated rom slots repeatedly and have just had no success. Is it possible that there is something weird about my phone? Is it just wonky? It does run normally on the stock rom, or at least as normally as any D3 can run but I'd love to run a meaner, leaner rom on my phone.
If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them.
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I'm running SS 3.05 and have been able to flash several roms (all GB because I need a camera) that others rave about. I have not gotten good performance out of any of them. The worst ones seem to cause almost non-stop force closes on apps while the "best" ones function but my phone runs very hot even when not being used. Just tried Steel Droid 5 over the weekend and I at least got it up and running but the phone was noticeably hot even when just sitting on the counter with the screen off.
I've uninstalled and reinstalled Safestrap a couple of times, deleted and recreated rom slots repeatedly and have just had no success. Is it possible that there is something weird about my phone? Is it just wonky? It does run normally on the stock rom, or at least as normally as any D3 can run but I'd love to run a meaner, leaner rom on my phone.
If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear them.
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Weird. Minimoto ran great for me. I wonder if it's an app you install?
Maybe you just have a bad app or two. You can try loading the phone stock and install only an app or two at a time and see if the phone runs better. Maybe after loading one particular set of apps you'll notice a problem.
I run minimoto as well. I don't get the miracle battery savings that others report - mine is essentially the same as running stock for me - but it is rock-solid stable, unlike stock, which tends to go wonky on me after about 5 days or so.
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I have noticed something like that, I´m on XT862 and I have better baterry performance on Steeldroid 5.0 and If I give a try with Minimoto I have noticed higher battery drain and hot back of my device. So I always went back to SD 5.0. Strange that people have different experiences =).
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Maybe you just have a bad app or two. You can try loading the phone stock and install only an app or two at a time and see if the phone runs better. Maybe after loading one particular set of apps you'll notice a problem.
I run minimoto as well. I don't get the miracle battery savings that others report - mine is essentially the same as running stock for me - but it is rock-solid stable, unlike stock, which tends to go wonky on me after about 5 days or so.
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Would a app that tracks battery usage by app possibly give me that info as well? Slowly adding apps one at a time will be a major chore...
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Would a app that tracks battery usage by app possibly give me that info as well? Slowly adding apps one at a time will be a major chore...
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I can't post this on the Milaq thread (where most of the invisiblek discussion is) so I thought I would post it here to give anyone else a heads up.
The Good:
It's a fairly stable kernel and all my apps run seemingly just fine. I mean I've only been running it about 5 hours but not a single FC. I did have a weird bootup glitch that locked it up right away after install but after that I loaded all the apps just fine. Super exciting to see it so far!
The Bad:
Screen pixelation/tearing from left to right, especailly on grey backgrounds. Something is up with the video driver/gpu voltage. Certain icons like the Settings sprocket will have a few pixels that will flash and other times you'll see lines all the way across the screen. It might be color specific. I was playing Quadropus Rampage and never noticed it but then went back to the home screen or typing an e-mail and it's very much there.
Pandora plays music fine. If you turn off the screen while playing, horrific things happen like ZZZZZZZZZZZZ and then hard lock. I didn't like that station anyway..
The "OK Google" voice command doesn't seem to work though voice typing does. I'm pretty sure this worked on the Milaq build of the same date.
It's a bit slow and CPU is stuck to 1188. There is a bit of a lag switching apps but I don't notice any core functions slow.
The Different:
The home button doesn't wake up the TP. Only the power button.
Can't say anything about battery life quite yet but I'll keep a gander on it. Battery hasn't been a super concern of mine because I plug it in ever night
The Different:
The typical 15 second reset switch mult-button key is more like 3 seconds now. I like this a lot better.
Positive:
--backup and restore work
--it is getting much better.
Negatives:
--Microphone does not work, so I could not use any vioce search or voice dialer/sound recorder.
--Free game "F.S. Xtreme" has black box issue.
--Youtube still has reboot issue.
--TV streams app "syncbak" has similar reboot issue.
My wifi keeps shutting off and won't restart without reboot. Not even sleeping. Other than that it runs nicely.
Switched to milaq's 3.0 kernel.
The CPU is pre-configured to run at much higher 1.5Ghz, yet the 3.0 rom is still able to run very stable.
I am waiting for camera fix to enable video calls.
Since both 3.0/3.4 rom are using the same CWM, it makes 3.0/3.4 rom switch very easy.
Waiting on Flintmans as it is the only non data media rom. Not a big fan of all the repartitioning. For several reasons. Good to see choices still available. God bless the developers for all their time and effort. Wish I could do what they do.
goog888 said:
Switched to milaq's 3.0 kernel.
The CPU is pre-configured to run at much higher 1.5Ghz, yet the 3.0 rom is still able to run very stable.
I am waiting for camera fix to enable video calls.
Since both 3.0/3.4 rom are using the same CWM, it makes 3.0/3.4 rom switch very easy.
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I flashed 3.4 rom (0103) over 3.0, and tried briefly.
--3.4 rom seems running OK, except it runs relatively slower at 1.1Ghz.
--camera is not working on both 3.0/3.4 rom.
--Free game "F.S. Xtreme" seems not compatible with 3.x kernel. It also cannot run on Samsung S3.
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My wifi keeps shutting off and won't restart without reboot. Not even sleeping. Other than that it runs nicely.
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Turn off WiFi Optimization in settings.
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Turn off WiFi Optimization in settings.
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Still does it. Did that soon as rom booted as per the Op.
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My wifi keeps shutting off and won't restart without reboot. Not even sleeping. Other than that it runs nicely.
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Same here. Also double check that the setting took. I swear I unchecked it and it went back or didn't take the first time. Perhaps give it a toggle or two. I also noticed that if wifi turns off, it won't turn back on.
Anyone else having a problem with rebooting from within CM and it just goes to a blank screen?
Dirty flashed to the 1/5 nigthly. Reboot issues seems gone now, or just that a reflash has fixed mine specifically.
Just noticed that there is an official thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592909
Hopefully I can post there too!
sokratz said:
Just noticed that there is an official thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592909
Hopefully I can post there too!
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Negative on the posting. I'm still seeing the bzzzz when the screen shuts off while playing music. Have disabled the mic (I think). Curious that nobody on that thread has reported that quite yet.
I'm very excited to see all of this development on our old TPs! I'm currently running Milaq's latest 3.0 kernel test build. It is running almost perfectly for me! I cannot wait for 3.4 to finish getting smoothed out. I've tried Invisiblek's builds out, and they currently seem a little laggy compared to Milaq's 3.0 test build. Great work all around though! Thanks to Invisiblek, Flintman, Milaq, JCSullins, Dorregary, and all of the others that I haven't mentioned who have contributed so much of their time and skill toward keeping our Touchpads relevant, even competitive with the current crop of tablets on the market!
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Hey all.
I tried switching the runtime to ART and lost all use of the power button. So I'm back to Dalvik again. Is anyone else having this problem and if so, have you found a way to fix it
Thanks!
I've been on ART since Monday and have had no issues
Until you do a reboot, then it recompiles the run time all over again. I've also been being some random FC's on phone and ui but other than that it's fine
I switched over to ART and it is optimizing 60 apps after every reboot ? going back to Dalvik for now also battery life for me has been somewhat shorter..
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I was getting rather crappy battery life after restoring apps via helium phone was awake 100% of the time, I switched to ART and now the phone sleeps. As a result battery life has improved!
I've been running with ART since I got it on release day and haven't had a single app fail. Maybe I don't have a lot of apps or something, but so far, it's running great.
Anyone been running ART?
I enjoyed performance on my HTC M7, but the battery life seemed shorter. Could have been other factors, but am curious as to what people are doing on Turbo.
I don't have any performance lag, so I don't imagine this things running any better than it is. Especially at the sacrifice of battery life.
I've roamed google and can't find an answer. I tried to switch to ART...3 HOURS ago! It keeps getting stuck! I read some forums and rebooted, it'd say "upgrading x out of y apps" but the Y is always different (up and down) and the X it gets stuck on is always different! at first I assumed because I have a podcast app that has over 1.7 GB of data, but going on 4 hours?
Worse, the recovery partition isn't showing up to wipe dalvik cache or data- it just says NO COMMAND, and does not respond with any menus. Tried the factory reset, and tried even using adb to wipe. Nothing is anything other than stock here. nothing is responding. It just keeps going back to the "Android is upgrading" Any ideas?
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I've roamed google and can't find an answer. I tried to switch to ART...3 HOURS ago! It keeps getting stuck! I read some forums and rebooted, it'd say "upgrading x out of y apps" but the Y is always different (up and down) and the X it gets stuck on is always different! at first I assumed because I have a podcast app that has over 1.7 GB of data, but going on 4 hours?
Worse, the recovery partition isn't showing up to wipe dalvik cache or data- it just says NO COMMAND, and does not respond with any menus. Tried the factory reset, and tried even using adb to wipe. Nothing is anything other than stock here. nothing is responding. It just keeps going back to the "Android is upgrading" Any ideas?
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I've noticed ART doesn't seem to play very well on mine either. Upgrading apps everytime you reboot. Boot sounds play when on vibrate/silent. There's quite a few quirks but those stood out the most to me. When lollipop is official, we won't have to worry about that nonsense. For me, I'll have this phone about 10 more days before I send it back to Verizon.
Issues with ART aswell... Several apps optimize after every reboot.
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I've noticed ART doesn't seem to play very well on mine either. Upgrading apps everytime you reboot. Boot sounds play when on vibrate/silent. There's quite a few quirks but those stood out the most to me. When lollipop is official, we won't have to worry about that nonsense. For me, I'll have this phone about 10 more days before I send it back to Verizon.
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After waiting about 6 hours, and even trying to wipe cache and everything, eventually I had to wipe data and do a factory reset, and got ridiculed on the private forum for the soak on even tryingART (oddly). So for the moment, I'd say we wait on LP b4 using it consistently.
I ran ART for about a week or two. The optimizations grew on every reboot. Switched back to Dalvik and my battery life improved.
Stop rebooting then . Art runs great. Better battery and snappier with window animation s turned off. If u have problems its either your phone or operator error
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Stop rebooting then . Art runs great. Better battery and snappier with window animation s turned off. If u have problems its either your phone or operator error
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Naive comment. If there is a phone problem, you likely will need to reboot. Operator error doesnt cause a phone to reboot either.
Why use something buggy and broken like art on kitkat when the advantages are barely seen and the disadvantages are huge?
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Why use something buggy and broken like art on kitkat when the advantages are barely seen and the disadvantages are huge?
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Why buggy and broken? Besides the optimization on boot, for which we don't know whether it's a bug or has its reasons, art runs great on the turbo.
I can't say much about GUI performance, the GUI is blindingly fast on dalvik, hard to say whether it's blindinglier faster on art or not, but it's definitely not slower.
Battery life on the other hand makes a huge jump with art! Especially system uses way less power, in my case less than a third. And that's definitely worth it!
There might be issues with some applications from the play store (which is most likely a compatibility topic as with any major android update and not one of bugs) , so far I didn't run into any, though, and I've got plenty of apps installed and in use - none of them exhibit the slightest issue at all.
All this said, if you don't run into any trouble with any of your key applications, I definitely and highly recommend art!
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Why buggy and broken? Besides the optimization on boot, for which we don't know whether it's a bug or has its reasons, art runs great on the turbo.
I can't say much about GUI performance, the GUI is blindingly fast on dalvik, hard to say whether it's blindinglier faster on art or not, but it's definitely not slower.
Battery life on the other hand makes a huge jump with art! Especially system uses way less power, in my case less than a third. And that's definitely worth it!
There might be issues with some applications from the play store (which is most likely a compatibility topic as with any major android update and not one of bugs) , so far I didn't run into any, though, and I've got plenty of apps installed and in use - none of them exhibit the slightest issue at all.
All this said, if you don't run into any trouble with any of your key applications, I definitely and highly recommend art!
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I tested ART for two weeks ( got the phone on launch day) my battery life was significantly worse.
joshm.1219 said:
I tested ART for two weeks ( got the phone on launch day) my battery life was significantly worse.
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Interesting. Did you figure out where the power went to? Did you compare fairly, as you had the phone new, usage pattern and installed apps might have undergone a fair change.
As a side note, I only tried it with the latest update, maybe that makes a difference as well...
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Interesting. Did you figure out where the power went to? Did you compare fairly, as you had the phone new, usage pattern and installed apps might have undergone a fair change.
As a side note, I only tried it with the latest update, maybe that makes a difference as well...
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I switched to ART maybe a week after I got the phone, so I was through the new phone setup. I was on that day 1 update (.15 or whatever) when I was trying it. I wasn't scientific about the testing at all, but I did use it for two weeks so I think it was a pretty comprehensive representation of my usage patterns. After switching back to dalvik, my standby time in particular jumped noticeably. Different strokes for different folks? I don't know, but personally I will be sticking to dalvik while on Kit Kat.
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... Different strokes for different folks? I don't know, but personally I will be sticking to dalvik while on Kit Kat.
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Apparently, pity. Looks like it ain't a sure win, thus. Guess, as you said, one has to try it out and see whether it works out for your particular combo of apps and usage...
Thanks for shedding light on that dark side of art.
I'm on the maxx, didn't get much out of art for better or worse. I didn't notice any performance difference nor change in battery. I did find the rebuilding annoying though since I reboot at least once a day after I update my hosts file and I'm trying various other changes in exposed and so on that require a reboot.
hello all, ive just been having these issues, their always random, either its screen of death, random reboots, google services f/c'ing, it doesnt matter what rom i flash, or if i fastboot back to stock, nothing changes, theres always "something" that goes wrong. I've tried, and tried and tried but something always seems to be messed up with this phone. I dont know what im doing wrong, I've been flashing roms for years and never had so many problems, except, I had these same issues on the nexus 5, same thing.
anybody ells going through this? or is it just me?
i have both nexus 5 and nexus 6, i know both of them very well, is there anything i can help you with? ive figured out solutions to the majority of random things theyve thrown at me..
Thanks for the help. Well, every rom i try has browser f/cs, google play f/cs random reboots sometimes it reboots and wipes cache for some reason. Sometimes its like system ui f/cs so it just does a "soft" reboot, i have audio issues even on stock, like when i get a call, the ringtone starts out real quiet then boosts all the way up, sound is distorted over 50%, i tried to up my voltage by 15mv global and that didnt help anything..... Im not sure what to do, i already switched out the phone once, i think im at the end of my 15 day byers remorse period
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Thanks for the help. Well, every rom i try has browser f/cs, google play f/cs random reboots sometimes it reboots and wipes cache for some reason. Sometimes its like system ui f/cs so it just does a "soft" reboot, i have audio issues even on stock, like when i get a call, the ringtone starts out real quiet then boosts all the way up, sound is distorted over 50%, i tried to up my voltage by 15mv global and that didnt help anything..... Im not sure what to do, i already switched out the phone once, i think im at the end of my 15 day byers remorse period
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Ima jump in here and try to provide a helpful response.
The nexus 6 is the best device I've ever owned beside my beloved g2, I did have to get my nexus 6 replaced the second day I had it because of a battery issue, but no problems ever since.
As far as the Gapps force closing, try using a different set of Gapps. I prefer to use the latest version of the multirom twrp and always use Banks Gapps(pm me if you can't find them.)
Only onn two, maybe three, roms have I had soft reboots/blackscreens/systemui closes. And most of the time they can be solved with a different kernel and a bit of tuning with an app such as faux123 or kernel auditor.
Audio problems can be hard to fix, but let's make sure you can distinguish the problems from the features. An example of a common misconceptions is the audio "clipping" or "lagging" when rotating the screen. This is a feature, it is swapping the left and right channels to keep the audio correct. There is a build prop line you can edit to diable this.
The phone ringtone volume steadily increasing is also a feature in most roms, including stock. It can be found in Settings>sound and notifications> and somewhere near the vibrate option.
Sound distortion is a problem I suffered from on older roms. I eventually started using viper4android on ALL of the roms I install with the superior audio driver (power drain is unnoticeable). All the settings are super easy to use, and easy to discover while playing a song and listening to the differences. Just make sure selinux is set to permissive.
I don't think increasing/decreasing the voltage can be any good for the hardware. If your car says "premium only" then you shouldn't run regular or racing fuel, you should stick to what was intended to work. You can kill battery life, starve the cpu/gpu, increase lag and overheating when messing with voltages.
Try this.
Go get the LATEST version of twrp, go find the Pure nexus rom and download it and Banks gapps, also go find francos kernel and download the latest release.
WIPE EVERYTHING TWICE (cache, dalvik, system, data) and install ROM>KERNEL>GAPPS and reboot into your super stable phone!
Message me for anything else!
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Thanks for the help. Well, every rom i try has browser f/cs, google play f/cs random reboots sometimes it reboots and wipes cache for some reason. Sometimes its like system ui f/cs so it just does a "soft" reboot, i have audio issues even on stock, like when i get a call, the ringtone starts out real quiet then boosts all the way up, sound is distorted over 50%, i tried to up my voltage by 15mv global and that didnt help anything..... Im not sure what to do, i already switched out the phone once, i think im at the end of my 15 day byers remorse period
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what bin number does your phone have? try raising your cpu, inly at your highest cpu, by 20-30mV more. about it wiping the cache, what build android are you on? it used to do that to me all the time, but not since android 5.1.1 hit aosp.
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Ima jump in here and try to provide a helpful response.
The nexus 6 is the best device I've ever owned beside my beloved g2, I did have to get my nexus 6 replaced the second day I had it because of a battery issue, but no problems ever since.
As far as the Gapps force closing, try using a different set of Gapps. I prefer to use the latest version of the multirom twrp and always use Banks Gapps(pm me if you can't find them.)
Only onn two, maybe three, roms have I had soft reboots/blackscreens/systemui closes. And most of the time they can be solved with a different kernel and a bit of tuning with an app such as faux123 or kernel auditor.
Audio problems can be hard to fix, but let's make sure you can distinguish the problems from the features. An example of a common misconceptions is the audio "clipping" or "lagging" when rotating the screen. This is a feature, it is swapping the left and right channels to keep the audio correct. There is a build prop line you can edit to diable this.
The phone ringtone volume steadily increasing is also a feature in most roms, including stock. It can be found in Settings>sound and notifications> and somewhere near the vibrate option.
Sound distortion is a problem I suffered from on older roms. I eventually started using viper4android on ALL of the roms I install with the superior audio driver (power drain is unnoticeable). All the settings are super easy to use, and easy to discover while playing a song and listening to the differences. Just make sure selinux is set to permissive.
I don't think increasing/decreasing the voltage can be any good for the hardware. If your car says "premium only" then you shouldn't run regular or racing fuel, you should stick to what was intended to work. You can kill battery life, starve the cpu/gpu, increase lag and overheating when messing with voltages.
Try this.
Go get the LATEST version of twrp, go find the Pure nexus rom and download it and Banks gapps, also go find francos kernel and download the latest release.
WIPE EVERYTHING TWICE (cache, dalvik, system, data) and install ROM>KERNEL>GAPPS and reboot into your super stable phone!
Message me for anything else!
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Thanks for the info. As for the google f/cs, so far that was only on one rom, and i havent had it since. Only browser f/cs are what im dealing with now. As for the sound. I understand the differences between the features, this is not a feature, i know what you mean by increasing ringtone, my issue is nothing like that, its not like, the sound slowly gets louder and louder... It starts out real quiet, and then BOOM full volume. Sometimes the speakers pop a little. Its weird, because it only does this the very first time a sound is played, if i have for instance, touch sounds enabled, and go through my ringtones, i dont have any sound issues. But if i turn off touch sounds, then go back to ringtones, the very first one i select will be reeeeal low.... And then BOOM full volume. This was the very first thing i checked when i switched out phones, and the very first time i tryed it on the brand new phone it did this very same thing. I just assumed it was a known issue.
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what bin number does your phone have? try raising your cpu, inly at your highest cpu, by 20-30mV more. about it wiping the cache, what build android are you on? it used to do that to me all the time, but not since android 5.1.1 hit aosp.
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bin number? do you mean BUILD number? I have the tmobile variant of the nexus 6, before i started flashing roms, the first thing i did was download the factory image of 5.1.1 for the tmobile version, which is (LYZ28E), then i found the unenforced encryption boot.img someone posted which is the same boot.img, I unlocked, flashed the stock 5.1.1 image, unencrypted the device, then went on to flashing roms, right now, im on cyanideL which is LYZ28E, and so far, ive had two reboots, one of them had wiped cache by itself apon rebooting, same sound issues, same browser force closing, i even tried chrome, which force closed the second i loaded a web page, other than that, taptalk, g+ hangouts all work fine, its just these 3 or 4 same issues with pretty much all roms
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bin number? do you mean BUILD number? I have the tmobile variant of the nexus 6, before i started flashing roms, the first thing i did was download the factory image of 5.1.1 for the tmobile version, which is (LYZ28E), then i found the unenforced encryption boot.img someone posted which is the same boot.img, I unlocked, flashed the stock 5.1.1 image, unencrypted the device, then went on to flashing roms
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ok, got ya.
which browser do you use btw?
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ok, got ya.
which browser do you use btw?
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sorry, i edited my post above, I try to use AOSP, which seems to be the best, it force closes the least, but chrome immediately f/c's, firefox works pretty good too, but it has graphical glitches all over the place,
ugh..... so i just wiped everything twice and flashed pure nexus rom, and i have no service, at all... . it just never ends.
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ugh..... so i just wiped everything twice and flashed pure nexus rom, and i have no service, at all... . it just never ends.
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reboot.
try this rom, with the latest gapps, and supersu, its Terminus https://goo.gl/ojD6Z6
now i know that this rom has no issues. if you start developing issues, its either something that your doing, or defective(or something else?).
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reboot.
try this rom, with the latest gapps, and supersu, its Terminus https://goo.gl/ojD6Z6
now i know that this rom has no issues. if you start developing issues, its either something that your doing, or defective(or something else?).
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well, its definitely getting interesting. I just tried optipop, and my sound was working normaly! but to my amazement, it was very laggy and system animations werent working correctly, if i backed out of a screen, sometimes it would slide down, sometimes the creen would just flash white and would switch to the last screen, if that makes any sense. I got the same thing as all roms, no network, but i went and searched for networks and it failed, but then my network signal popped up, and when i tried it a gain, tmobile popped up.
so now im trying tremindous, and its doing the same thing with the network, im testing everythnig ells now.
BTW, what kernel would you suggest?
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BTW, what kernel would you suggest?
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either elementalx, vindicator, despair, or lean kernel.
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either elementalx, vindicator, despair, or lean kernel.
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Why not Franco kernel? Just a question
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Why not Franco kernel? Just a question
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he doesn't include ondemand and no oc. i know his conservative is similar to ondemand, but its not the same. and i strictly use ondemand. about oc, he made me an oc kernel that i used for a little, but its old now. amyways, i dont really use his kernel, but we are still friends
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he doesn't include ondemand and no oc. i know his conservative is similar to ondemand, but its not the same. and i strictly use ondemand. about oc, he made me an oc kernel that i used for a little, but its old now. amyways, i dont really use his kernel, but we are still friends
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How is OC for batterylife? Is there a big difference when you OC to say 3Ghz and what about heat issues or do you undervolt?
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How is OC for batterylife? Is there a big difference when you OC to say 3Ghz and what about heat issues or do you undervolt?
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i get from 5-6.5h sot using 3033mhz/300mhz ondemand/deadline. and the n6 doesnt have a heat issue. in fact, i have a hard time getting it over 75C whwn im pushing it to try and get hot.
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i get from 5-6.5h sot using 3033mhz/300mhz ondemand/deadline. and the n6 doesnt have a heat issue. in fact, i have a hard time getting it over 75C whwn im pushing it to try and get hot.
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Ok, running Terminus with the latest hellscore kernel and i cant believe it but everything is working good so far. Gonna test some more now. Thanks for the help simms
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Ok, running Terminus with the latest hellscore kernel and i cant believe it but everything is working good so far. Gonna test some more now. Thanks for the help simms
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I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
I'd recommend flashing a rom like pure nexus, super stable that should fix your problem, otherwise you've done all you can and is the easiest fix
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lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
5.1 said:
Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
lchiu7 said:
Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Hello,
Don't worry, it's really easy. Also, if you are lost, there must be a ton of tutorials in general section. If you are lost yet, just ask and someone will point you in the right direction...
Good luck...
lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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I've been running Pure Nexus and wanted to let peeps know I put Nitrogen on and man it's so smooth, my wifi tether is back and I went to sleep last night with 50% battery still. When I installed it I opted for the nano gapps I think so like 175mb for minimal apps and maybe that's why it's running so efficient. Maybe I could have re-installed Pure Nexus with a clean install and it would have gotten better but it was a good time to try something else. Also when Nitrogen got an update I was notified just like stock and it downloaded. I didn't even know these could do that. Anyways give it a try and you might just switch back. I was looking into new phones but if it keeps working so smooth with battery longer than a day then I'm fine for now.
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
zelendel said:
... It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
NLBeev said:
I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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Currently I have FB, FB messenger, and Chrome but when I installed gapps I chose a super lite install so tons of bloat and google apps were not installed and my battery has gone way up and it's so smooth. I'm sure even when we don't use apps they're always doing something in the background. I bet you're right and a stock lite ROM would be good too with the minimal bs apps.
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Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
lchiu7 said:
Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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I would flash TWRP, flash supersu in TWRP to root, make a complete backup in twrp, then remove whatever Google apps you're not using with a system app removal app. Getting some of that bloat off the device should help. If it's still laggy, then look into a custom ROM. I run Tesla on my Nexus 6 with none of the issues you're having. I don't decrypt it either
Running abdroid 7.1 here. I dont get any slowdowns, at leas until the battery doesnt drop below 50 and 25 percent.
Im running a custom kernel and my phone is rooted. Everything else is stock.
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
lchiu7 said:
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Hello,
Since your bootloader is unlocked, flash TWRP and install the kernel, no problem.
Might give you a slight boost at first sight, but your device will likely slow down over time anyway...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.0 with the April SP. I have dozens of apps installed, including Hangouts. I use Firefox for browsing, I like it better than chrome (and you can install an ad blocker).
My camera slows down when the battery is under 40%, and the whole device slows dramatically, though not unusable, at or below 5%. But otherwise, no issues what so ever.
One solution that I have not seen suggested here is resetting the device and NOT taking the Google account backup of all your apps. I would suggest making a completely clean install of the factory rom you have and installing one or two apps at a time, most important to you first. And do this for a few days/weeks until you find the app that's misbehaving.
Although there are general bad players out there, this bad app could be unique to your device. Just because all devices of the same model have the same specs and components, doesn't mean that there isn't variability in parts quality.
I would do this before trying any new roms or kernels. Find the true problem first.
Good luck!
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I had another idea: Go into your battery stats and network stats and storage stats and see if any app seems to be using too much of any, or all of the 3. This may get you the answer more quickly.