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"Basically, all wi-fi enabled phones require a data plan"??

Hello,
My question is to know whether Wi-fi is free using MY wireless connection from MY router?
I have AT&T with no data plan on my Xperia X1a. But a no data plan does not necessarily mean that I won't get charged for it. I use 'NoData' program to disable 'AT&T ISP GPRS' and 'MEdia Net'.
I went to the 'Comm Manager' on the top taskbar and made sure 'Data Connection' was OFF..
The reason why I ask this is because I came across a post on Yahoo Answers that kept me skeptical
"Basically, all wi-fi enabled phones require a data plan."??

There is no reason or even sense that wifi phones would require data plans. But in pratice phones have the tendency to try to connect via data plans if they want to access the net and you'll have to figure settings that prevent that. As long as your data connection stays offline there should be no issue.

I spoke with a AT&T phone operator and was told it was $2 per MB even if I was using Wi-Fi.
I checked my data usage on 'SPB Wireless Monitor' and it states I owe $0.00 using 'AT&T ISP GPRS', 'MEdia Net' and 'Wi-fi', but that AT&T phone operator

glostix said:
I spoke with a AT&T phone operator and was told it was $2 per MB even if I was using Wi-Fi.
I checked my data usage on 'SPB Wireless Monitor' and it states I owe $0.00 using 'AT&T ISP GPRS', 'MEdia Net' and 'Wi-fi', but that AT&T phone operator
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Rule number one with all types of phone operator: call again if you don't like the answer. He either had no clue or didn't understand what you're talking about. Your mobile phone provider has nothing to do with any traffic you do via wlan, unless your wlan router itself uses UMTS (which means it would have a sim card on it's own) - but I'm certain you use dsl or cable.
Btw. using any smartphone with only wlan is only half the fun. You should really looking into getting a plan so you can use the net even outside your home.

wifi means free data.
let me explain it a bit better.
you have a laptop...
your traveling.
you check into a hotel that offers wifi.
does that mean you then call the cable company to run a line?
but like the other poster said, your phone may say it wants 3g preferred over wifi.
that would be a rom issue i believe.
hell i have a touch pro that the keyboard (slide out) broke.
so now its my Garmin GPS unit. and wifi sniffer.
cant do anything else with it.
wifi, gps, bluetooth are all free.
in fact, thats why they have made a vonage app for blackberry and iphone. so that you can have internet phone without cellular
hope that helps.

Yes, thank you for the clarification nhvolt.
The telephone operator was very vague cause I needed authorization of the biller (my parents last 4 digits of their SSN, of which I did not have access to) to log-in and have a convo with them.
Anyways, I will continue to use Wi-Fi been said it is free. I trust you guys. Thanks!

Actually, since September 06, 2009, a $30 data plan was automatically added to users with smartphones by AT&T from tracking IMEI.
So technically, you do have to pay, since AT&T automatically bills you $30 for being a smartphone user, whether you use it or not.
Considering if wi-fi is free using my own home network, will the bill rise even more if I were to use it?

glostix said:
Actually, since September 06, 2009, a $30 data plan was automatically added to users with smartphones by AT&T from tracking IMEI.
So technically, you do have to pay, since AT&T automatically bills you $30 for being a smartphone user, whether you use it or not.
Considering if wi-fi is free using my own home network, will the bill rise even more if I were to use it?
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NO! Wi-Fi has NOTHING to do with your provider (AT&T)

As long as you have your connections disabled in NODATA, all your internet via WiFi is free.
@Hannigan: AT&T has been charging users a "smartphone fee" if they detect you're using a smartphone (via IMEI, I guess). Even if you're not on a data plan.
@glostix: there's a thread here on how to get your phone exempted from the stupid fee, I just can't remember where (I found it via the XDA front page so there's a big chance it's not on the X1 boards)

glostix said:
Actually, since September 06, 2009, a $30 data plan was automatically added to users with smartphones by AT&T from tracking IMEI.
So technically, you do have to pay, since AT&T automatically bills you $30 for being a smartphone user, whether you use it or not.
Considering if wi-fi is free using my own home network, will the bill rise even more if I were to use it?
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bud, its like asking if your laptop will incure cellular rates if it uses your wifi.
wifi is completely free.
Ipods have wifi
laptops
desktops
skype phones
all wifi is free.
the only time you would ever need to pay for it is to access a wireless router. such as a hotel or starbucks.
but home network all free. Promise.

LoL, nothing is free, but I can assure you using WiFi on your phone will cause NO extra billing thru your wireless phone provider. it WILL however tie up bandwidth from your internet connection slowing anyone else down who tries to use it

Wi-Fi has nothing to do with the cellular data conenction, bro. Some apps MAY try to connect via the data connection and the wi-fi one and that will cost you.
1 - Download "No Data" and disable your data connection with the operator.
2 - Use wi-fi only.
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Mobile data permission request - help please!

Hi everyone. This is my first post in a long time. I just bought an SGT & I'm over the moon with it - what an incredible piece of tech!
However, I do have one problem/question that I need help with... Bear with me because although it's quite a simple problem, it's difficult to explain! When I configure my APN settings (Globe Philippines), it automatically connects & stays connected unless I lose signal (but then it reconnects automatically again). In almost every developed country in the world, this is not a problem because you would be on a data plan (post-paid) or you could buy a data allowance (pre-paid) so it doesn't matter that it automatically connects & stays connected... you wouldn't keep racking up the charges. But here it's different... The vast majority of people are on pre-paid (we can't qualify for post-paid contract) and the mobile networks charge per 15 minutes of data useage.
So, you see, if my Tab connects automatically without warning it can cost me a small fortune. I'm currently using an App called APNdroid to manually enable/disable my mobile data connection. Although this is better than nothing, it's not ideal. My other phones default to mobile data = off & pop up a warning when I'm about to connect to internet. They also allow me easily terminate the connection when I'm finished browsing.This is what I'm after for the Tab. Surely this is not too much to ask? Does anybody have any suggestions that may help me out?
It seems as though the SGT/Android has been designed with the assumption that everyone that wants to use mobile data will be on a post-paid data plan. I would if I could, but I (and millions of others in this backward country) can't.
Thanks in advance & sorry for the long, rambling post!
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andychud said:
Hi everyone. This is my first post in a long time. I just bought an SGT & I'm over the moon with it - what an incredible piece of tech!
However, I do have one problem/question that I need help with... Bear with me because although it's quite a simple problem, it's difficult to explain! When I configure my APN settings (Globe Philippines), it automatically connects & stays connected unless I lose signal (but then it reconnects automatically again). In almost every developed country in the world, this is not a problem because you would be on a data plan (post-paid) or you could buy a data allowance (pre-paid) so it doesn't matter that it automatically connects & stays connected... you wouldn't keep racking up the charges. But here it's different... The vast majority of people are on pre-paid (we can't qualify for post-paid contract) and the mobile networks charge per 15 minutes of data useage.
So, you see, if my Tab connects automatically without warning it can cost me a small fortune. I'm currently using an App called APNdroid to manually enable/disable my mobile data connection. Although this is better than nothing, it's not ideal. My other phones default to mobile data = off & pop up a warning when I'm about to connect to internet. They also allow me easily terminate the connection when I'm finished browsing.This is what I'm after for the Tab. Surely this is not too much to ask? Does anybody have any suggestions that may help me out?
It seems as though the SGT/Android has been designed with the assumption that everyone that wants to use mobile data will be on a post-paid data plan. I would if I could, but I (and millions of others in this backward country) can't.
Thanks in advance & sorry for the long, rambling post!
Sent from my GT-P1000T using XDA App
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This is a perfectly logical question. Its the same issue when you are roaming in a foreign country/network. Here is what I do Settings => Mobile Network Settings => Data Enabled == OFF when I don't want to use data.

@cnewsgrp... Thanks for the reply. What you are suggesting is pretty much what I'm doing except that instead of going into settings, I have an app on my home screen that does it for me in one click. However, this is not ideal. All I'm after is for my Galaxy Tab to ask me which of my configured APNs do I want to connect to when a data connection is needed (if not using wifi) & then automatically disconnect from it when it's not needed. I have this facility on my Nokia E71.
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Yeah, I remember that with E71. I don't recollect having that option with Android
How about APN Lock App?

WiFi Tethering stopped working - T-mobile warning sign appears

Hi, I'm using AOIP 8/10/13 ROM on my Galaxy Exhibit T679 phone and Yesterday when I was using my laptop using my phone as WiFi hotspot, all of a sudden, T-mobile warning sign came up on a browser window and since then, any web page i'm try to connect ends up a T-mobile warning sign saying you have to buy a hotspot plan. Wifi Tethering has been working with no problem on this ROM till today, so I was wondering what happened. Can anybody give me any advice? I thought if I root my phone and use these custom rom, Wifi tethering would work even without having T-mobile hotspot plan or whatever. BTW, I've been using this ROMs build-in tethering feature and I didn't use any tethering app like FOX-Fi etc...Any help would be appreciated.

betek2k said:
Hi, I'm using AOIP 8/10/13 ROM on my Galaxy Exhibit T679 phone and Yesterday when I was using my laptop using my phone as WiFi hotspot, all of a sudden, T-mobile warning sign came up on a browser window and since then, any web page i'm try to connect ends up a T-mobile warning sign saying you have to buy a hotspot plan. Wifi Tethering has been working with no problem on this ROM till today, so I was wondering what happened. Can anybody give me any advice? I thought if I root my phone and use these custom rom, Wifi tethering would work even without having T-mobile hotspot plan or whatever. BTW, I've been using this ROMs build-in tethering feature and I didn't use any tethering app like FOX-Fi etc...Any help would be appreciated.
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Just curious do you have an unlimited data plan.

schuylkillparanormal said:
Just curious do you have an unlimited data plan.
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it's a so called "Walmart Plan" which includes: 5GB data, 100 min talk time and unlimited text.
When I checked the usage of my data, it was like 300 MB, so I still have a lot of data left.

betek2k said:
it's a so called "Walmart Plan" which includes: 5GB data, 100 min talk time and unlimited text.
When I checked the usage of my data, it was like 300 MB, so I still have a lot of data left.
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Hmmm idk what to tell you I have a unlimited plan and never had a pronlem with wifi tether. Maybe try wiping data and cache .

What browser are you using? I ran in to this before with same wall Mart plan. I found online about changing the user agent in the browser can get you around the T-Mobile page. I was using internet explorer. Go to developer options and then go change user agent to opera. See how that works.

If all else fails, its only 15 bucks more for the tethering with Tmobile.

Best Wifi Tether WITH root option?

So I've been a longtime foxfi -> PDANet user and ever since 4.3 dropped I've lived without tether. It wasn't THAT big a deal for me since I tether in emergency situations only and they don't come up often but now that I'm on the S5 and root has dropped I realized it's time to get tethering as a backup working.
So my question is what's the current best wifi tether option for the S5 if you've rooted it? I don't mind paying for an app if there's no free version that does the same thing or just to support a good developer. I've found things like wifi tether:
https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
but every one I've found seems old and hasn't been updated in quite a long time.
Any feedback much appreciated.

Try WiFi Tether Router v6

I apologize for being nosey, but what's wrong with the built-in Mobile Hotspot?

soundofclocks said:
I apologize for being nosey, but what's wrong with the built-in Mobile Hotspot?
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Grandfathered unlimited with no option to use the built-in Mobile Hotspot without giving up the unlimited. I use MAYBE 500MB-1GB tethering a month and I'm not willing to give up unlimited for the ability to tether those rares times especially since pulling into the parking lot of a starbucks has worked for those emergencies in the last few months.

Sgt.CM said:
Try WiFi Tether Router v6
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This looks promising but I don't like paid apps you can't try before buying. Does anyone else have any experience with this app?

erikk said:
So I've been a longtime foxfi -> PDANet user and ever since 4.3 dropped I've lived without tether. It wasn't THAT big a deal for me since I tether in emergency situations only and they don't come up often but now that I'm on the S5 and root has dropped I realized it's time to get tethering as a backup working.
So my question is what's the current best wifi tether option for the S5 if you've rooted it? I don't mind paying for an app if there's no free version that does the same thing or just to support a good developer. I've found things like wifi...
Any feedback much appreciated.
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That WiFi tether is OK to use. The core system has not been updated in a while, but if you look into the project a little deeper, you will find that the S4 just received it's own configuration into the tether.
With the S5 recently obtaining root, I'm sure the configuration will be patched in soon.
I am using 3.4pre1 (experimental). There are only two issues I came across.
1) The Logging portion fails.
2) If you are connected to a wifi hotspot, then start wifi tether, you will loose the configuration for that specific SSID. Don't worry, though, as a reboot will fix this.
Also, I use the S4 device profile. It seems there is somewhat smoother operations with this.

I have grandfathered unlimited data with AT&T and successfully enabled the built-in hotspot by using the "Disable tethering provisioning" option in WanamXposed

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I have grandfathered unlimited data with AT&T and successfully enabled the built-in hotspot by using the "Disable tethering provisioning" option in WanamXposed
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I just tried that and it didn't seem to work for me. I got impatient and just bought Wifi Tether Router 6 (that $25 google play credit makes it hard to be patient). It seems to work but I had some issues when I was connected to Wifi when I started to initiate the tether and actually if I was even in a place where I had a signal for a saved wifi. Forgetting the wifi networks in my house and it worked which I guess is ok since I wouldn't ever be using it someplace where I had another Wifi to connect to.
But I wouldn't mind figuring out how to use wanam xposed to do it, if there's a way to.

scott318 said:
I have grandfathered unlimited data with AT&T and successfully enabled the built-in hotspot by using the "Disable tethering provisioning" option in WanamXposed
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Question: What to you do to make it work? I tried this and it still fails. I go to turn it on and a dialog pops up, says "Checking" and then turns off.

allcaps33 said:
Question: What to you do to make it work? I tried this and it still fails. I go to turn it on and a dialog pops up, says "Checking" and then turns off.
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Sorry, please disregard my last post. While I had one initial session working and could access the portable hotspot on my Mac, it seems to no longer work.
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scott318 said:
Sorry, please disregard my last post. While I had one initial session working and could access the portable hotspot on my Mac, it seems to no longer work.
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I can 100% confirm however that the Xposed module "X Tether" enables native tethering correctly...I am posting using it now :laugh:

Ha ha! You beat me to it! Yes native tethering works indeed. Head to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787606
For more info.

scott318 said:
I can 100% confirm however that the Xposed module "X Tether" enables native tethering correctly...I am posting using it now :laugh:
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Yes it does seem to. Allows me to use native app, doesn't mess up wifi if connected already. I think I'll use this method. I'll just eat the $2.50 for wifi tether router I guess.
Thanks Scott.

Bypass tether throttle on T-Mobile One

I was wondering if there's a workaround to the T-Mobile tether throttle on the One plan. I'm currently waiting on my replacement but was hoping to be able to get the workaround running asap. Thanks in advanced!

i am wondering the same thing about this and if there is a way to bypass the 480p cap on it ..

You can just turn binge on, off. No more 480p cap.

KillaHurtz said:
You can just turn binge on, off. No more 480p cap.
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Not under the new plan. You have to pay to turn off Binge On.

JaguarXT said:
Not under the new plan. You have to pay to turn off Binge On.
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Bummer, glad I have the old unlimited plan with 14gb tethering

KillaHurtz said:
Bummer, glad I have the old unlimited plan with 14gb tethering
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Me too!!!!

JaguarXT said:
Not under the new plan. You have to pay to turn off Binge On.
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That should totally be against the law. If i want to use up all my data watching netflix at full video quality it is my prerogative I say.

mgbotoe said:
That should totally be against the law. If i want to use up all my data watching netflix at full video quality it is my prerogative I say.
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Well, that is just the beginning of not so nice things within the new plan. The new plan is really about throttling users after a small amount of data. Unlimited, just not unlimited high speed. Which is the reason I stayed with my old plan.

JaguarXT said:
Well, that is just the beginning of not so nice things within the new plan. The new plan is really about throttling users after a small amount of data. Unlimited, just not unlimited high speed. Which is the reason I stayed with my old plan.
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Its a shame, gotta give it to tmobile....they suckered in enough customers to keep the business booming and change direction to become the brand new big Red....in their case, Pink lol

mgbotoe said:
Its a shame, gotta give it to tmobile....they suckered in enough customers to keep the business booming and change direction to become the brand new big Red....in their case, Pink lol
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So true.
Forgot to mention about T-Mobile making Tethering users to be as monsters in their campaigns.

mgbotoe said:
That should totally be against the law. If i want to use up all my data watching netflix at full video quality it is my prerogative I say.
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T-Mobile One is unlimited data, no buckets, so you're gonna use up infinity data at full quality with your proposal

My guess is you could root and probably use a 3rd party app to tether at LTE speeds. I've been wondering the same thing myself so I'm following to see what everybody else says lol

I have tried WiFi Tether Router by Fabio Grasso, but it doesn't help. Tried all different settings/methods combinations. Still tethers at the same speeds as Android native tethering.
I also tried changing User Agent string on my tablet and laptop to clone my Nexus 6's string but still not helping.
I did use to tether heavily, many months of around 300 GBs of data with this app "Wifi Tether Router". It's perfect for bypassing quotas, but so far not working for throttling.
Interesting fact: T-Mobile is letting speedtest.net traffic through without throttling, so if you run it, you'll notice it shows LTE speeds. However, if you run any other test like speedof.me (which is my favorite!) you'll be throttled.
I'll keep you guys posted when I figure it our. Shouldn't take long.

BoomBucks said:
I have tried WiFi Tether Router by Fabio Grasso, but it doesn't help. Tried all different settings/methods combinations. Still tethers at the same speeds as Android native tethering.
I also tried changing User Agent string on my tablet and laptop to clone my Nexus 6's string but still not helping.
I did use to tether heavily, many months of around 300 GBs of data with this app "Wifi Tether Router". It's perfect for bypassing quotas, but so far not working for throttling.
Interesting fact: T-Mobile is letting speedtest.net traffic through without throttling, so if you run it, you'll notice it shows LTE speeds. However, if you run any other test like speedof.me (which is my favorite!) you'll be throttled.
I'll keep you guys posted when I figure it our. Shouldn't take long.
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Have you tried a VPN?

You can download "WiFi Tether Router" in the Playstore, if you're rooted, it gives you unlimited tethering.
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I have tried WiFi Tether Router by Fabio Grasso, but it doesn't help. Tried all different settings/methods combinations. Still tethers at the same speeds as Android native tethering.
I also tried changing User Agent string on my tablet and laptop to clone my Nexus 6's string but still not helping.
I did use to tether heavily, many months of around 300 GBs of data with this app "Wifi Tether Router". It's perfect for bypassing quotas, but so far not working for throttling.
Interesting fact: T-Mobile is letting speedtest.net traffic through without throttling, so if you run it, you'll notice it shows LTE speeds. However, if you run any other test like speedof.me (which is my favorite!) you'll be throttled.
I'll keep you guys posted when I figure it our. Shouldn't take long.
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You have to edit build.prop file. You can do that easily by downloading the app called "BuildProp Editor" in the Playstore. Then look for the string called "net.tethering.noprovisioning" and set it to true. then it should be working no problem.

Any solution yet to this???

Found a kinda solution. I downloaded foxfi and the key (if you need the key I can send you the link) and turned it on and chose "run proxy" then connect your laptop, PlayStation, Xbox etc to the proxy and it will tether more than 500kbps I'm using my hotspot to watch Netflix on my PlayStation right now and there's hardly any buffer time so it's working for me.

Ugh wish I would've found this thread before the I upgraded to xfinity wifi...just got a $177 bill the other day so pissed
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shanda5303 said:
Ugh wish I would've found this thread before the I upgraded to xfinity wifi...just got a $177 bill the other day so pissed
Method 1 – Dun = 0 [Android Only]
Requirements: Windows PC, USB cable
Download the ADB and Fastboot installer from XDA-developers. Select Yes when prompted by installation options (install ADB and fastboot, install system-wide, and install drivers).
Enable USB Debugging on your phone/tablet.
Connect your phone to your computer via USB cable.
Open up the command prompt.
Click Start, in the search Type in cmd. Next, Click on the program cmd (or Command Prompt).
Type “adb shell” and press enter.
Don’t type the quotation marks “”, just the text inside them!
Type “settings put global tether_dun_required 0” and press enter.
Note: If you see “error: device not found” it is usually because A) you need to update your phone USB drivers on your PC or B) your USB cable isn’t capable of transmitting data because it is only designed to charge the phone or C) USB Debugging isn’t enabled.
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- Got this from Groovypost.com ... It also says you can change your TTL setting in the registry to 65 and that also works...
Here's the link for more info: https://www.groovypost.com/howto/hide-data-usage-get-truly-unlimited-tethering-tmobile-one/
If this helped, be sure to hit the Thanks button
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BoomBucks said:
I have tried WiFi Tether Router by Fabio Grasso, but it doesn't help. Tried all different settings/methods combinations. Still tethers at the same speeds as Android native tethering.
I also tried changing User Agent string on my tablet and laptop to clone my Nexus 6's string but still not helping.
I did use to tether heavily, many months of around 300 GBs of data with this app "Wifi Tether Router". It's perfect for bypassing quotas, but so far not working for throttling.
Interesting fact: T-Mobile is letting speedtest.net traffic through without throttling, so if you run it, you'll notice it shows LTE speeds. However, if you run any other test like speedof.me (which is my favorite!) you'll be throttled.
I'll keep you guys posted when I figure it our. Shouldn't take long.
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Any news, buddy?
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Mike_Disturbed_1992 said:
Found a kinda solution. I downloaded foxfi and the key (if you need the key I can send you the link) and turned it on and chose "run proxy" then connect your laptop, PlayStation, Xbox etc to the proxy and it will tether more than 500kbps I'm using my hotspot to watch Netflix on my PlayStation right now and there's hardly any buffer time so it's working for me.
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Do you still get throttled to 128kbs or whatever?
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