Hi can anyone explain to me how is the current situation of ICS roms for N1?
In particular i'd like to know which roms are available, if they need to install blackrose, if they support hwa, any other relevant note and opinion
thanks a lot and sorry for my bad english
alakin said:
Hi can anyone explain to me how is the current situation of ICS roms for N1?
In particular i'd like to know which roms are available, if they need to install blackrose, if they support hwa, any other relevant note and opinion
thanks a lot and sorry for my bad english
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There are 2 main builds right now in the development forum...Texacice's build based on Evervolv AOSP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897....and BCM based on CM9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557606...both are great in their own right and personal preference will dictate which you use. Both have functioning HWA...have for a while now and both require BR partitions of 220 10 16...or close to that. There are a couple ICS roms out there that dont need a new boot partition, but frankly I wouldnt bother, as they are not complete full ICS roms. The only major functionality missing currently is video recording...although that looks to be close to fixed also. You can actually flash a new boot partition via recovery without installing blackrose. See this thread....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637166...and select the ICS partition and flash in recovery prior to installing new rom.
Correction: you do need BlackRose for that.
if u want to flash ICS roms. u need to first knw abt Blackrose. read it carefully before proceeding
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
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ok thanks a lot to everyone, you all have been very helpful. these 2 roms mentioned are both "final" roms right? they're not beta, RC or whatever, aside form video recording that is annoying but i can live without it
btw i have root but i have the bootloader locked. can i still install br and do all the other stuff?
yes u can install with locked bootloader.
no they are not RC or beta releases. they are not final aswell, the devs are really working hard and pushing regular updates to make the rom better and complete.
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Hey guys! My apologies if this is a redundant question, but I just wanted to be sure:
If ASUS decides to actually put out an official KitKat update for this thing eventually, would I still be able to try it out / install it normally *after* I've unlocked?
If so, what exactly would be my procedure? Will I be blocked from getting or installing the OTA, or would the process be no different?
There's been some great progress it seems on custom ROMs for this thing. I'm a bit gun shy admittedly, as running custom ROMs on previous devices led to a lot of instability. I guess I want to ensure I'll still have the option to try out a future official build if I choose. Thanks in advance!
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Yes you will definitely be able to update to KitKat once released. However you won't be able to get the OTA update automatically sent to ur tab once u unlock it. But its pretty simple to get it. After Asus has pushed the ota to devices, the also upload the firmware to their website. U would simple download that and place it in the root of ur internal SD, and reboot. Tab will recognize the update, and give u notification for installing it. And u continue with that. Very simple.
And as for the Roms , the cromix ROM is by far very stable ROM. I have tried it for very long time, and has no issues at all, and the plus side is u can do a lot of customizations yet the ROM still runs faster than stock. I strongly recommend cromix ROM.
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Yes you will definitely be able to update to KitKat once released. However you won't be able to get the OTA update automatically sent to ur tab once u unlock it. But its pretty simple to get it. After Asus has pushed the ota to devices, the also upload the firmware to their website. U would simple download that and place it in the root of ur internal SD, and reboot. Tab will recognize the update, and give u notification for installing it. And u continue with that. Very simple.
And as for the Roms , the cromix ROM is by far very stable ROM. I have tried it for very long time, and has no issues at all, and the plus side is u can do a lot of customizations yet the ROM still runs faster than stock. I strongly recommend cromix ROM.
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Thank you! Answered my question perfectly. I think I'll pull the trigger on unlocking here soon. Cheers!
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Your welcome and have fun, which I'm sure you will
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This is not 100% true. The current official ROM will only flash with the stock recovery installed and not a custom one, so I would assume the same for any update.
It's not an issue to flash the stock recovery back but it will be an extra step.
Also if and when an official KitKat comes out you will more than likely have to wait until a new recovery is made that is compatible for a custom ROM after that.
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This is not 100% true. The current official ROM will only flash with the stock recovery installed and not a custom one, so I would assume the same for any update.
It's not an issue to flash the stock recovery back but it will be an extra step.
Also if and when an official KitKat comes out you will more than likely have to wait until a new recovery is made that is compatible for a custom ROM after that.
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And this is very likely 100% true.
I never understand why people are pining for the stock rom - no matter which version or update....
I would feel helpless and lost with only the stock recovery! Lately I've been trying to help several people on stock firmware with corrupted data, no custom recovery, no root, locked bootloader.... You're toast!
All you can do is send it in to Asus and pay a bundle! Whereas unlocked you just fire up fastboot or custom recovery and start to fix it!
Besides - once Asus releases a KK version for this tablet you can bet your.... house that sbdags will have a custom version of it out in no time. And it's going to be better than Asus firmware, receive frequent updates, can be flashed with a custom recovery....
A no-brainer IMHO
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And this is very likely 100% true.
I never understand why people are pining for the stock rom - no matter which version or update....
I would feel helpless and lost with only the stock recovery! Lately I've been trying to help several people on stock firmware with corrupted data, no custom recovery, no root, locked bootloader.... You're toast!
All you can do is send it in to Asus and pay a bundle! Whereas unlocked you just fire up fastboot or custom recovery and start to fix it!
Besides - once Asus releases a KK version for this tablet you can bet your.... house that sbdags will have a custom version of it out in no time. And it's going to be better than Asus firmware, receive frequent updates, can be flashed with a custom recovery....
A no-brainer IMHO
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I'll agree with that 100%
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dear Master,
previously i own xperia go and M. both of them are bootloader unlocked.
now im using z3 compact. i heard that if i unlock the bootloader it has effect on quality of picture. when i have Go and M. i cant differentiate the quality of pic.
so my question is, is woth unlocking bootloader on z3 compact?
for me - No
for many - Yes
Well yes, that you can get cyanogenmod and many other great ROM's (Cyanogenmod has a great battery life and great enhancements), plus great kernels.
But no, if you enjoy using your phone for photography, then do not unlock it.
As unlocking your bootloader, you loose your DRM keys (which enhance photography, visuals and sound of the Xperia.
If I were you, I would wait until after stock Marshmallow is released and give it a try via standard, factory OTA. If MM were still months away, I wouldn't wait.
Then, after you've gotten tired of stock MM and its features, and you want to try new things, take care to back up your DRM keys (which is a bit tricky; you have to root without unlocking, I believe). After you've done that and have backed up your data, as long as you're careful and follow the more detailed tutorials on this forum, you can experiment to your heart's content.
Could we root z3 compact without unlocking bootloader? I have an unlocked bootloader z1 compact and yes it does effect the picture quality. All those 3rd party OS's can't match stock camera quality. Period.
Yes You can see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3011598
giefroot - rooting tool (CVE-2014-4322)
Now if worth or not unlocking it depends if you want another thing then stock or stock based. But till now there isn't to many choices... So stock with root for many is enough I think...
I unlocked bootloader but can restore the cam quality. Google "drm restore xperia xda". Sorry i'm on mobile cannot provide link.
So, go unlock it!
I downgraded my phone to 4.4.4, root exploiting, install XZDualRecovery and flash pre-rooted firmware
duke_dreadmoore said:
I unlocked bootloader but can restore the cam quality. Google "drm restore xperia xda". Sorry i'm on mobile cannot provide link.
So, go unlock it!
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Hey, just a single question for you please. I am on KitKat rooted and locked bootloader. Can I flash Sony Concept Marshmallow and then restore DRM keys to make sure that Noise Cancellation and camera works good?
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Hey, just a single question for you please. I am on KitKat rooted and locked bootloader. Can I flash Sony Concept Marshmallow and then restore DRM keys to make sure that Noise Cancellation and camera works good?
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Yes, but why would you want to do that?
There are several Marshmallow builds out now that are stock. Far less hassle. Sorry, but any development that insists on recking the best features of your camera doesn't get my vote.
You just need Flashfire and Slim, then your phone will be amazing
thanks all master, and friends.
i just got back my z3 compact. after had screen cracked by it self. fortunately it still has warranty. it take 3 months. hahahaha
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Yes, but why would you want to do that?
There are several Marshmallow builds out now that are stock. Far less hassle. Sorry, but any development that insists on recking the best features of your camera doesn't get my vote.
You just need Flashfire and Slim, then your phone will be amazing
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You are aware that the DRM restoration mod enables all those camera features even after unlocking a bootloader, right? I have my original DRM keys backed up and my bootloader unlocked for a year already and haven't looked back since, because everything is easier with BL unlocked + custom kernels (@someone755 gave us a very appealing MM kernel) and with the DRM restoration working on all stock based roms (from KK to latest MM, Concept rom included) it's a pure joy.
Plus, he can use MultiROM and boot CM/AOSP based rom, to experience stock Android, with the noice reduction algorithm working EVEN on **CM/AOSP, confirmed as well.
**Do note that it's not working wonders as on stock, but it is noticeable difference compared to using CM/AOSP as primary rom, without MultiROM.
Anyway at this point in development, since there is no difference between features (camera) of locked BL vs unlocked BL with DRM restoration mod, it all comes down at how easier it is to flash custom recovery and roms with UBL.
That being said, we all have different preferences, so what suits my needs does not necessarily suit someone else's, and if the OP is asking it just for the sake of having his bootloader unlocked (without the need to flash CM/AOSP rom and/or custom kernel) then don't do it. If OP wants to flash and experiment, then just go ahead and unlock.
Read the needed tutorials, find a tutorial to root the device without unlocking BL, BACKUP ORIGINAL DRM keys right away after rooting, and do as you wish
Cheers
P.S. @Didgesteve Don't get mad mate, not flaming you, just giving the OP choices and additional info, like yourself, and I support your helpful posts as I've seen your dedication
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You are aware that the DRM restoration mod enables all those camera features even after unlocking a bootloader, right? I have my original DRM keys backed up and my bootloader unlocked for a year already and haven't looked back since, because everything is easier with BL unlocked + custom kernels (@someone755 gave us a very appealing MM kernel) and with the DRM restoration working on all stock based roms (from KK to latest MM, Concept rom included) it's a pure joy.
Plus, he can use MultiROM and boot CM/AOSP based rom, to experience stock Android, with the noice reduction algorithm working EVEN on **CM/AOSP, confirmed as well.
**Do note that it's not working wonders as on stock, but it is noticeable difference compared to using CM/AOSP as primary rom, without MultiROM.
Anyway at this point in development, since there is no difference between features (camera) of locked BL vs unlocked BL with DRM restoration mod, it all comes down at how easier it is to flash custom recovery and roms with UBL.
That being said, we all have different preferences, so what suits my needs does not necessarily suit someone else's, and if the OP is asking it just for the sake of having his bootloader unlocked (without the need to flash CM/AOSP rom and/or custom kernel) then don't do it. If OP wants to flash and experiment, then just go ahead and unlock.
Read the needed tutorials, find a tutorial to root the device without unlocking BL, BACKUP ORIGINAL DRM keys right away after rooting, and do as you wish
Cheers
P.S. @Didgesteve Don't get mad mate, not flaming you, just giving the OP choices and additional info, like yourself, and I support your helpful posts as I've seen your dedication
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@Cirra92 you're right, it's good to give people choices. & no I'm not mad.
But development is limited on our aging Z3Cs, I know you mention CM & AOSP roms, but really there aren't any working well to speak of.
The only couple of developements with any traction is Slim or Concept (Max Ultra Fury is just bits of scripts copied from other deveolpers). So if you had to recomend which one to choose and one of the options involed unlocking the bootloader, which one would you go for?
I know there's a way to restore your DRM post unlock, but having spent a while on the Z3 thread, I've seen so many cries for help (like here & here & here & here) from people who get it wrong and brick their phones with Flashtool, that I struggle to recomend people playing with the tool when the stock options are just as good and won't endanger the phone.
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@Cirra92 you're right, it's good to give people choices. & no I'm not mad.
But development is limited on our aging Z3Cs, I know you mention CM & AOSP roms, but really there aren't any working well to speak of.
The only couple of developements with any traction is Slim or Concept (Max Ultra Fury is just bits of scripts copied from other deveolpers). So if you had to recomend which one to choose and one of the options involed unlocking the bootloader, which one would you go for?
I know there's a way to restore your DRM post unlock, but having spent a while on the Z3 thread, I've seen so many cries for help (like here & here & here & here) from people who get it wrong and brick their phones with Flashtool, that I struggle to recomend people playing with the tool when the stock options are just as good and won't endanger the phone.
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I have been using SliMM 2.0 and it was fast and mostly reliable (Wajk has made sure to make it stable) but there were still some bugs, and battery life for me was a bit worse than his LP rom with same usage and setup. If OP requires root on whatever rom he chooses, I would go for Concept (which does require UBL to be rooted) as it's the fastest I've used, it's stable as a rock and it has a very good battery life + it's nearly AOSP looking and performs that way.
As for the Flashtool issues... Well if I understood those were mostly user mistakes, right? I have always carefully checked what was (un)selected before flashing anything in Flashtool, especially with SIMLOCK. When I bought the device last summer I probably spent 2 days reading every thread about rooting/(un)locking/flashing and it's consequences and even today I still recheck and read again the procedure if needed.
Follow the tutorials exactly as they were written and no problems will occur
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I have been using SliMM 2.0 and it was fast and mostly reliable (Wajk has made sure to make it stable) but there were still some bugs, and battery life for me was a bit worse than his LP rom with same usage and setup. If OP requires root on whatever rom he chooses, I would go for Concept (which does require UBL to be rooted) as it's the fastest I've used, it's stable as a rock and it has a very good battery life + it's nearly AOSP looking and performs that way.
As for the Flashtool issues... Well if I understood those were mostly user mistakes, right? I have always carefully checked what was (un)selected before flashing anything in Flashtool, especially with SIMLOCK. When I bought the device last summer I probably spent 2 days reading every thread about rooting/(un)locking/flashing and it's consequences and even today I still recheck and read again the procedure if needed.
Follow the tutorials exactly as they were written and no problems will occur
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Perhaps we can agree to disagree.
I don't think telling someone who's new to XDA and only has a handful of posts that they should embark on the unlock process. Some phones can't be unlocked and I am tired *sigh* of trying to comfort users who post the "waaa, my phone is broken", over and over again.
Hey all....experiencing lag and overheating after unlocking BL .Is that ok ,anyone?
Using slimm 2.4 full rom on my D5803 .Factory reset and drm fix applied ,prior use
nicorb said:
Hey all....experiencing lag and overheating after unlocking BL .Is that ok ,anyone?
Using slimm 2.4 full rom on my D5803 .Factory reset and drm fix applied ,prior use
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My bootloader is locked, sorry, can't help you.
Perhaps @Cirra92 might have some ideas?
Unlocked bootloader on Xperia Z5, rooted with stock MM rom (253). Debloated and deodexed, and get easily over 8hrs of SOT (screen on time) with still about 20-24% battery remaining .. So is it worth it?? You tell me ..
***In other words, YES***
Only if you know what you're doing so you dont hard brick your device
Hope that helps, All the best ....
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nicorb said:
Hey all....experiencing lag and overheating after unlocking BL .Is that ok ,anyone?
Using slimm 2.4 full rom on my D5803 .Factory reset and drm fix applied ,prior use
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Nope, that won't be caused by unlocking your BL. I've flashed different roms numerous times, no such issue. Haven't tried slimm 2.4 though, maybe it is rom related, but so far no one mentioned that. You are using stock slimm kernel, right?
Install Kernel Adiutor from Play Store and check which governor your device is using in CPU section. It should be "interactive", but there are cases where it was set to "performance" after unlocking BL, which caused overheating and lagging due to thermal throttling.
To answer again, is it worth unlocking, from my point of view
Hey everyone. I'm just wondering what the latest developments are as far as custom recovery and ROMs go for the Z3+ single sim unit?
I've had the phone almost a year, and with warranty about to expire, and some performance issues (disappearing flashlight toggle, and laggyness in general at times), I think I'm finally ready to dump the stock room and go for something custom.
I don't have much free time to research the topic, hence this post, so I apologise if this has been discussed recently. Last I read, there were a lot of steps to get root and recovery, and at the time, were no good custom ROMs for the Z3+, so really no point to voiding warranty, IMO. From browsing the dev forum, it looks like there are at least a few ROMs now.
So can someone tell me, or direct me to a post, describing the process to unlock the bootloader (mines locked), get root, and install twrp and a rom?
Thanks, I appreciate the help
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I tried nougat and didn't like it, nothing is better than MM and there are also some worse parts.
My aim to update N was to have a dark theme with apps included. At last, I decided on stock MM rom 32.2.A.5.11 with theme ready apps by Black Out team, OM5Z kernel and twrp 3.0.2.0.
Soo....3 weeks ago i was searching for a phone to replace my aging Kirin 650-powered Honor 5C and i was going to buy another Huawei (and also getting ready to be disappointed again by their half-assed software support for mid-tier devices and a GPU processing power equivalent to my Casio Scientific Calculator) until my eyes were locked on a super great deal. A 190-ish USD for a 128 GB Mi A2.
I was so excited back then but after a while i just realized a few things with the latest update (first pie update, im kinda scared installing the second pie after claims of bricking devices lol) which are
1. The camera app is meh
2. It doesnt shoot in RAW (My rooted 5C got it, thanks HassanMirza and other peeps on developing the superb Elite ROM on this device)
3. The portrait mode sucks major ass like it only detects objects thats at the center of the frame (sucks when youre using the rule of thirds)
4. And gosh whats with these white dots when im using manual mode with long shutter speed
I just felt like this superb hardware (this phone snaps superb pics btw) is being bogged down with a meh-than average software. Its not bad but when you found settings like "Picture Quality" and "low, med, high" you'd be thinking like, am i a joke to you xiaomi? Also I like how Huawei's camera app are more technical and in-depth, but i wanted some more "meat" on the processing power (i prefer sd 660 than the kirin 710)
So i was so tempted to install Gcam
In which we will end this rant (sorry) and get back to my topic which is; Should i lose OTA and root this phone? Because idk why i would like to have my warranty (i only do this to out-of-warranty devices only) and this pure android is as good as pure water, or pure whatever that you like, its so good fast and 90 percent bug free. But i also want the features that those custom rom (especially pixel experience UwU) so should I wait for future updates where hopefully Xiaomi will enable Camera2API by default? Or should I succumb on my own impatience-ness and root/unlock/flash my 3 week old Mi A2? What will i gain if i unlock? and what will i lose?
oh also i broke the screen on this baby yesterday, came of from my t-shirt pocket when i was trying to tie my shoes. So um wear cases/Screen protectors guys, gorilla glass 5 is just a marketing gimmick smh
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In which we will end this rant (sorry) and get back to my topic which is; Should i lose OTA and root this phone? Because idk why i would like to have my warranty (i only do this to out-of-warranty devices only) and this pure android is as good as pure water, or pure whatever that you like, its so good fast and 90 percent bug free. But i also want the features that those custom rom (especially pixel experience UwU) so should I wait for future updates where hopefully Xiaomi will enable Camera2API by default? Or should I succumb on my own impatience-ness and root/unlock/flash my 3 week old Mi A2? What will i gain if i unlock? and what will i lose?
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You can Root your phone and have OTA at the same time. As long as you stick to the stock rom and don't make changes to the system partition, OTA will be intact.
The only caveat is, you have to take some extra steps before updating your phone. There is a great guide on Mi A2 Lite's forum for proper Magisk installation with OTA intact.
I have not flashed a ROM on this one so I don't know how is the experience there. I have been running custom ROMs on every device I have owned but the A/B partition and temporary TWRP and all the extra steps are a lot for me. I would rather use Magisk modules to replicate the features I want on the stock ROM itself.
I bought this phone to stick with stock plus all mods I usually do. I was always with custom roms, I thought why not a phone with good specs great camera and regular stock updates. When I bought it pie had just arrived. It lasted 3 4 weeks then back to my beloved pixel experience. The difference was big. PE is way ahead of buggy stock. Ok not the easiest phone right now for twrp and flashing roms with a b slots but with a little reading you can do it... Gcam was huge difference as well both in stock and in PE. So my suggestion is yeah totally you have to go for custom rom. Only to get rid of the dull color of the lcd on stock is enough
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I bought this phone to stick with stock plus all mods I usually do. I was always with custom roms, I thought why not a phone with good specs great camera and regular stock updates. When I bought it pie had just arrived. It lasted 3 4 weeks then back to my beloved pixel experience. The difference was big. PE is way ahead of buggy stock. Ok not the easiest phone right now for twrp and flashing roms with a b slots but with a little reading you can do it... Gcam was huge difference as well both in stock and in PE. So my suggestion is yeah totally you have to go for custom rom. Only to get rid of the dull color of the lcd on stock is enough
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Partitions? Umm care to explain what exactly it is? Like I did heard A/B partitions but I never got a hang of it. Before this I've only dealt with phones that has microsd expansions so I never heard of A/B partitions.
Yeah I'm diving deep into the PE forum right now Hahahah. But when you said it's not the easiest to twrp, what do you mean? I mean what should I expect when I'm going to flash a custom recovery on this phone? (apart from not bricking etc2 usual stuff)
Thanks for your response btw
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Partitions? Umm care to explain what exactly it is? Like I did heard A/B partitions but I never got a hang of it. Before this I've only dealt with phones that has microsd expansions so I never heard of A/B partitions.
Yeah I'm diving deep into the PE forum right now Hahahah. But when you said it's not the easiest to twrp, what do you mean? I mean what should I expect when I'm going to flash a custom recovery on this phone? (apart from not bricking etc2 usual stuff)
Thanks for your response btw
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=78890796
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Gee
Oh and also I've read about custom recovery not working properly after the Pie update *sigh* idk if it's true.
And it seems that it's easier to mod after switch to 6X rather than in A2.
Well idk I still have warranty on this phone, I think I'll just wait until everything just matures out. Thanks for the info by the wayy
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You dont need to root, you can just boot with a patched boot.img, run the appropriate commands to enable camapi via adb and reboot without tampering with ota relevant partitions
is it better to unlocked bootloader in mi a2 or just keep it locked?
I'm just concerned if phone got bootloop after update and phone's bootloader is not unlocked.
btw if bootloader's unlocked, can we receive ota and install it?
thanks!
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is it better to unlocked bootloader in mi a2 or just keep it locked?
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IMHO there occurred valuable reason to have "jasmine" with unclocked bootloader: many "loyal" users of "jasmine" got their phones bricked with infamous January patch (10.0.3.0), while those who had unclocked bootloader could easily flash back more-or-less stable 10.0.2.0.
For those that have unlocked bootloader and critical and remain on the stock ROM is your Playstore Play Protect Certification Device is Certified or Uncertified?
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Uncertified
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Thanks. Do you find any restrictions in downloading any sort of apps from playstore?