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Hi guys
I switched from my x10 to a nexus one last week, really wanted to try out Froyo, multitouch, and all the goodies that come with that.
I flashed a desire sense rom onto my nexus a couple of days ago. I didn't bother to check what the internal memory was on first boot, and perhaps I should have, but hopefully you can help anyway.
I used titanium backup to restore all of my apps. However, I got to a certain point, and my internal memory was full. So I had to cancel the process, and then start a new batch process in titanium backup to move all the apps to the sd card. This seemed fine, I started again to restore all the previously unrestored apps. Then, sooner than before, the same thing happened again. So I cancelled the process and moved all apps to the sd card. This went on, to the point where I'm at now, that I have so little internal memory I can't install any more apps! Even though I have supposedly shifted all my apps to the sd card. I have no idea what has happened this memory, where has it gone? How do I reclaim it? What is it that is taking it up, if all my apps are on my sd card instead? :-S
Thanks for the help as always guys, any tips are much appreciated.
Download DiskUsage from the market (you may have to uninstall something first).
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When you restore from titanium after flashing a rom just restore missing apps and data NOT all system data, just fyi
or just do basic apps you need
if you are going to run sense roms you should use amon_ra 2.0.0 to set up an ext3 partition. Some roms move the a2sd auto after you reboot right after flashing rom and some use Dark Tremor that they include in rom. Just need to be sure.
ken
Thanks for the tip about titanium, I'll remember that for the next time.
I ran DiskUsage, seems I have 96.3MB of system data... Is all of this essential, or is there any way for me to clear some of it? How did it all get there in the first place?
Thanks guys.
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
According to disk usage, out of a total of 196.2MB internal memory,
79.8MB is used by apps (presumably those which must be stored locally)
96.3MB system data
and 20.2MB free space.
Does this help?
rugmankc said:
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
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ask the right questions, that is not a large amount of system memory if he is using the new sense 2.0 roms
, are you using the new desireHD rom / mytouch 4g, with sense 2.0, these roms are large, leaving very little space on the device, if it is one of these you will have setup an ext partition on your sdcard,
if you have flashed the desireHD rom plug your phone into pc
from cmd type
adb shell stop
adb shell
a2sd repair
hit ctrl+c to back out
adb shell start
this should move all apps from the /data/app partition into your sd-ext partition, which has much more free space
those don't sound right, doesn't it say "internal free memory" and 20.63mb free which is the internal is very low
I go back into TB and scroll down and delete apps from previous rom and then refresh. If you did select "restore all apps and system data" may be why internal is low. Don't think you cancahnge that till next rom flash. If it is working you can nandroid for now and think about Dark Tremor.
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
petecdun said:
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
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right, an AOSP rom will leave you with about 70-90 MB, not exactly sure with a sense rom but i doubt there would me much left to play with as the nexus was built without sense
the reason your space still goes down is because when you install the app, it is dexopted and the code is optimized, this optimized code is specific for your phone and is stored on your data partition, so even though your moving the actual app to your sdcard, the optimized code (Dalvik cache) is still stored on your phone, as the same for any app data.
my advice, and what i always use is Apps2Ext this is using a seperate partition on your memory card dedicated to installing apps, if you have one setup already great, if not
backup everything on your SDcard and partition it with your recovery software, when asked, choose 512MB ext, 0 swap, and the rest (FAT), copy all your stuff back to your SDcard, as well as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
flash that through the recovery, it will move all your apps from the data/app folder to the new partition you made on your sdcard and link data/app to that folder so any new apps you install will automatically be installed there
I have MicroMod2.10 sense which is auto a2sd, you need an ext3 partition to get more free.
I have 93mb free internal. Normal can be 75 to 120
Your system free mem sounds high
FYI: If you partition with amon or rommgr/cwmod it wipes sd card.
I just messed up my sdcard and had to reformat it, not ext partition, left it alone, thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard and sd card reader. The reader is the only thing that confirms I have ext 3. DT always shows ext2 and rommgr seems to do only ext2. Amon can do ext3, 512mb, 0 Swap
You need to get in habit of backing sdcard regularly, not necessarily all everytime, if a particular folder like videos or pics hasn't changed. They are high mem only.
Beat You bagofcrap24
I usually am on the losing end
Ken
every time i do a nandroid and then a titanium restore on my phone with data, it says im low on space. the apps are all on my memory card and not my phone. one of the culprits seems to be the dalvic cache in the root of the phone. i deleted that as a test run and it freed up loads of space. however i ran into alot of force closes. i tried restarting my phone to see if it would restore the data in boot but it then got stuck in a boot loop and wouldnt load into home.
any help over whats the best course of action for things like this?
ive since then done another restore and deiced to only restore the user installed apps (no data) and then go through the ones i need the data restored on. could titanium be installing old data to my phone thats not needed, thus filling up my phone with data from unused apps?
If you are runing on low data space, a possibility would be to move dalvik cache to sd, as you have done with your apps. It will probably slow down a bit your phone, but will will free some space on the phone's internal memory. Look for firerat's all-in-one script and enable the d2x option.
AndDiSa said:
If you are runing on low data space, a possibility would be to move dalvik cache to sd, as you have done with your apps. It will probably slow down a bit your phone, but will will free some space on the phone's internal memory. Look for firerat's all-in-one script and enable the d2x option.
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to be honest, i want that to be my last ever option. i like to be able to use my phone at a quicker pace. but may try it later if i cannot find any other options.
traumatism said:
to be honest, i want that to be my last ever option. i like to be able to use my phone at a quicker pace. but may try it later if i cannot find any other options.
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You can also move data to sd-card (ddb - option), but for me the performance went down much more than with dc2x. Finding a different solution will be difficult, because dalvik-cache for me has already a size of about 75MB (system apps + gapps + some apps installed). Data for apps are about 30MB. Even with CustomMTD there is not much space left to use, especially when you consider that the performance of the phone will decrease notifically when free internal space goes below 15MB. I am running with dc2x option and I have an acceptable performance. I suggest you to give it a try.
main thing i wanna know is this however. if i have old data on my titanium back ups from apps that are no longer installed. will titanium put that data back on the phone, even if its application/s have been removed from the back up?
decided use the script after all.
thanks for the info AndDiSa
I'm planning moving to eMMC CM7 from Nookie Froyo, and want to make sure I have my ducks in a row before committing:
1) I have made Titanium Backups of all my apps to the SD card,
2) I have made a ROM manager backup of the whole system. (just in case I want to bail out)
Anything else to do?
My question is whether I will be able to read the Froyo SD card from CM7 to reinstall the apps? Does the ext4 format extend to the external SD card or just to the internal storage?
Also, does restoring apps via TB restore the settings for those apps as well? For example, will I have to start playing Angry Birds from the beginning again, or will it pick up where I left off (I hate Angry Birds )?
Thanks,
Derek
The format of the SD card does not change.
TB gives you the option of restoring apps with or without their data, such as settings, save-games, etc. It's normally safe to restore app data. Just don't select the option to restore system data. If you encounter problems with any specific apps, you can then use TB to wipe their data back to the default settings, as if you had just installed them.
CM7, along with every other android rom, uses the external SD-card as storage and storage alone. I actualy went from nookie froyo to CM7 and used titanium backup to reinstall all of my apps. There were however, a couple apps that would for some reason not install. I don't remember which ones, so don't be surprised. EXT-4 only applies to the eMMC (or internal rom), and will only apply once you format /system /data /cache within CWM 3.0.1.0
As far as I know as long as you select to backup the app + data , then restore apps + data Titanium backup will restore the exit state of the apps.
Hope you like and have fun with CM7.
The NEWness (updateing it at least once a week) and ruff around the edges implementation sort of gives it a charm.
Well guys i just want a minor help from all cm users. well the problem i suffer with is, when i restore data using titanium, or install new apps, it goes straight into phone memory rather to sd card and gives me low memory warnings. and i don't have any sd-ext partition, just talking about simple default move to sd option in android. so i mean how can i set it to like whenever i do any of the above, it goes into sd memory rather than phone memory like in stock roms (obviously for apps which are movable) .
thanks
abhibnl said:
Well guys i just want a minor help from all cm users. well the problem i suffer with is, when i restore data using titanium, or install new apps, it goes straight into phone memory rather to sd card and gives me low memory warnings. and i don't have any sd-ext partition, just talking about simple default move to sd option in android. so i mean how can i set it to like whenever i do any of the above, it goes into sd memory rather than phone memory like in stock roms (obviously for apps which are movable) .
thanks
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open titanium backup==>menu key==>preference==>restore backup to==>external media
I just have a quick question. I have a Samsung Galaxy Exhibit T599n and running Beanstalk 4.4+ rom. I am having a few issues with the rom after a few month, such as random reboots, issues with PC connection (Phone only runs in Charge only mode, and phone does not pop up the option to use charge only, camera, or media mass storage modes when I connect to PC) and also no longer connects to Kies.
My question is, if I re-flash the SAME version of the rom that I have installed (I have the most recent version) over the current version I have installed, will I lose my apps and settings? Just want to know what to prepare for if I reflash. Should I do that and get to keep my apps and settings? Or is a factory reset necessary to fix my errors?
Do a factory reset that should do it .. if not it might be hardware problem.
EDIT: You can use Titanium Backup if you have root acess to backup all your apps.
steff00 said:
Do a factory reset that should do it .. if not it might be hardware problem.
EDIT: You can use Titanium Backup if you have root acess to backup all your apps.
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Excellent, thank you.
One other question, I had a problem with this last time I did a factory reset. I have my SD card partitioned to install my apps on there (Phone only came with 1GB internal, and would only hold a couple apps) so my SD card is 32GB, with 8GB partitioned to install my apps on. I remember having trouble with them last time I tried to flash a new rom and ended up having to reinstall Beanstalk from scratch and completely wipe the app partition as well.
Ok soo if i understood , you rom that you gona flash on your 32 gb sd card and flash from that also you can get app link2sd i think its called which let you transfer apps to sd card, correct me if i am wrong.
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I already have it set up that way. I have the rom installed, I have the 2nd partition on my SD card, and have the apps linked to it with Link2SD. But, I last time I tried backing up roms that were installed on that partition, I have a bounty of issues. When I went to reinstall the apps, the files were still on that 2nd partition, there were dormant files left over everywhere, so when I'd try to restore the apps from backup, I got a plethora of errors and the rom began crashing. Just wondering if there's any way to backup and use roms that are installed on that 2nd partition using Link2SD?
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I already have it set up that way. I have the rom installed, I have the 2nd partition on my SD card, and have the apps linked to it with Link2SD. But, I last time I tried backing up roms that were installed on that partition, I have a bounty of issues. When I went to reinstall the apps, the files were still on that 2nd partition, there were dormant files left over everywhere, so when I'd try to restore the apps from backup, I got a plethora of errors and the rom began crashing. Just wondering if there's any way to backup and use roms that are installed on that 2nd partition using Link2SD?
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I see, well since you have only 1 gb of internal storage for use i dont think i can help you with that.. because backup itself take a lot of space and not sure if you can make it to backup on your 2nd partition.
Or you can try transfer your backup files to your PC/laptop and delete everything then ty doing it and transfer back to phone after.