Lost DRM keys and better low light quality? - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I would like to ask you to compare low light camera results between Sony camera and Open Camera.
I have the impression that the green and purple spickles are much less using Open Camera, both in 20.66 MP and in 8.28 MP
File size of Open Camera is 1/3 from Sony Camera file size

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HvdW said:
I would like to ask you to compare low light camera results between Sony camera and Open Camera.
I have the impression that the green and purple spickles are much less using Open Camera, both in 20.66 MP and in 8.28 MP
File size of Open Camera is 1/3 from Sony Camera file size
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Unlocking means is a decrease in camera quality since you lose all DRM Rights to Sony's post processing algorithms. You could try different camera apps with slight differences but it certainly won't beat the Camera of a Z3C with a locked bootloader. The Green and Violet Spickles will be visible if the scenery is dark

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Need camera help

i have the kodak easy share C1013 which has 10 mega pixels apparently. but the problem is my phones comes blurry what ever i do, even if the flash is on for some reason, but this only happens indoors and even if the lights are on...if anyone here is good in camera, can they help me pls
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7783291#post7783291
see the third photo on this thread i clicked it with the flash on
Well the third photo the picture is recular out of focus. The problem with Point and SHoots is that they take a while to focus (especially in low light) and (this with all cmeras) the shutter speed has to be much lower for the sensor to gather more light...and P&S's have tiny sensors compared to an APS-C, CMOS, ir a full frame sensor. But you should just retake that shot making sure the camera is focused and maybe add some more light on the subject to make it easier for the camera.
Are you using a manual setting? Have you dropped the camera? How close are you shooting?
wdfowty said:
Are you using a manual setting? Have you dropped the camera? How close are you shooting?
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i have tried both manual and automatic, but both come out blurry. the camera has never been droped and this occur only indoors even if there is plently of light.
jaszek said:
Well the third photo the picture is recular out of focus. The problem with Point and SHoots is that they take a while to focus (especially in low light) and (this with all cmeras) the shutter speed has to be much lower for the sensor to gather more light...and P&S's have tiny sensors compared to an APS-C, CMOS, ir a full frame sensor. But you should just retake that shot making sure the camera is focused and maybe add some more light on the subject to make it easier for the camera.
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i alway focus my camera properly, when ever the focus is right, the box thing becomes green. how to lower the shutter speed i will take some photo with plenty of light. also the the the third photo was taken in a room full of light and also with the flash on
You mentioned that the room is well lit. But perhaps you are standing in front of the light and casting a shadow on your subject?
You mentioned that the camera has locked focus before you fully pressed the shutter. But with inadequate lighting, perhaps the camera is focusing on the wrong spot?
Some cameras have a light that comes on when you half-press the shutter to help the camera focus in low-light. If your camera has this, then make sure you enable it.
Also, if you didn't crop the photo, then perhaps you are holding the camera too close to your subject. Try backing off at least 2 or 3 feet. Then crop the photo with an editor to exclude anything you don't want.
You could also check settings for your focus point. It could be set to spot focus off center, I've seen it before.
ohyeahar said:
You mentioned that the room is well lit. But perhaps you are standing in front of the light and casting a shadow on your subject?
You mentioned that the camera has locked focus before you fully pressed the shutter. But with inadequate lighting, perhaps the camera is focusing on the wrong spot?
Some cameras have a light that comes on when you half-press the shutter to help the camera focus in low-light. If your camera has this, then make sure you enable it.
Also, if you didn't crop the photo, then perhaps you are holding the camera too close to your subject. Try backing off at least 2 or 3 feet. Then crop the photo with an editor to exclude anything you don't want.
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i tried what you said and see the pics i uploaded, but still i dont find the quality of a 10 megapixel camera tho
For those types of pics you need a camera with a macro feature/setting.
good day.
The 3rd and 6th photos are blurry because your subject spans a large depth of field. In those two photos, the base of the iPhone is close to your camera while the top of the iPhone is far away. The distance between these 2 points is too large for your camera to handle (especially under those lighting conditions). Your camera needs a smaller aperture setting than it can handle for those shots.
(In the 3rd photo, the camera seems to have focused on the farthest point. Notice that the top is in focus but the bottom is blurred. In the 6th photo, it's the opposite. Notice that you can clearly see the cracks in the cardboard box on the bottom while the top is blurred.)
The others look on par with what you should expect from your camera under those lighting conditions.
Remember that more megapixels doesn't mean better quality.
The following is just a tip. Lighting is important. Try to take your pictures with sunlight. Don't depend on your camera flash. If you use your flash aimed directly at your subject to compensate for lack of lighting, your pics will look terrible more often than not. (I see from the reflection off the rear of your iPhone that you're using a lamp as your primary source of light. That's not adequate...)
Shallow depth of field is not a bad thing with good lighting. It allows you to highlight certain aspects of your subject. See the following examples.
1st Pic, 2nd Pic, 3rd Pic
The 2nd pic draws your eyes to the bottom right corner while the 3rd pic draws them towards to the top left.
These were also taken indoors with a 10MP camera. But I used my Nikon D60 with SB-400 speedlight to bounce the flash off the ceiling.

[Q] Camera flash output / brightness in ICS

Is there a way to modify / lower camera flash brightness (output) in ICS?
When taking photos in darker environment, flash 'burns' the photo i.e. colors are washed out and photo is overexposed. I also noticed when the flash is activated during focusing, its brightness is normal.
As far as I remember, this was not the case in GB based ROMs (in which I always used ported stock LG camera app).
I've yet to try out alternative camera apps (zoom fx, ucam...), but I'd like to stick to the stock LG software.
TIA
same problem here,but i used Jbcamera+ for taking pictures (it has great autofocus and the flash is ok) and camerazoomfx for video recording,(the stock one not focusing and the jbcamera+) because the stock camera is bit annoying for me
I havent used the lg stock camera but as you have said the photos are over exposed when using flash so isnt there an option to decrease the exposure? I use the 4.2 Camera and when taking night shots depending on how close the target I set exposure to -1/-2 and get decent low light shots, flash wise that is.
Well, there is exposure compensation on stock camera app, just haven't thought of that before. Will try tonight both camera JB from play store and LG's app with exp -1 and -2.
Thanks.
vEget7 said:
same problem here,but i used Jbcamera+ for taking pictures (it has great autofocus and the flash is ok) and camerazoomfx for video recording,(the stock one not focusing and the jbcamera+) because the stock camera is bit annoying for me
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I thought camerazoom fx only took photos?
Yes, the exposure is way too high. Generally the photos are affected by the flash burns. The only solution i found was to decrease the exposure to -1 or -2.
OK, much better with exposure at -1 and -2 (depending on the surrounding light level).
I just wish LG camera app were a bit more 'intelligent' to figure exposure compensation on its own, but then again it would probably have to rely on some DSLR-like metering methods that would certainly double the size of camera/CCD (and the bulge where it sits) as well as its price...
If this were top priority to me, I'd probably be carrying a 'stupidphone' with an enormous camera at its back (nokia 808, anyone

[Q] How camera sensor works

So I was thinking about something lately. We have that 13Mp camera (Nothing super in terms of the quality) But what does the phone or lens when you put in on like 8Mp. Is it that it makes a 13Mp and crop it? Or can it be used to use multiple pixels as one? Or does it just shutdown those?
Question that I have for some time now
it's image sensor
the quality of photo depends upon image sensor the bigger the image sensor the better photo u will get:laugh:
ArmaNineTSeven said:
So I was thinking about something lately. We have that 13Mp camera (Nothing super in terms of the quality) But what does the phone or lens when you put in on like 8Mp. Is it that it makes a 13Mp and crop it? Or can it be used to use multiple pixels as one? Or does it just shutdown those?
Question that I have for some time now
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It uses 8 Mp of these 13 Mp, which produces a smaller image size. Use all 13 Mp and then resize it manually to the required size. For best image quality do this on a PC.

low camera detail issue

i have got my xperia z1 (6903) on 4.4.2 build number (14.3.0.A.0.757) the phone is pretty amazing but the camera is horribe compared to the 20.7 mega pixel even in manual with resolution set to 20.7 mega pixel i get very little detail in the pictures .and macro cant shoot things that are close but not close to enough that it cant focus.this not what i expect from this amazing phone but i see many pictures taken other people which are awesome
I WILL POST THE PHOTOS SOON
dharisd2 said:
i have got my xperia z1 (6903) on 4.4.2 build number (14.3.0.A.0.757) the phone is pretty amazing but the camera is horribe compared to the 20.7 mega pixel even in manual with resolution set to 20.7 mega pixel i get very little detail in the pictures .and macro cant shoot things that are close but not close to enough that it cant focus.this not what i expect from this amazing phone but i see many pictures taken other people which are awesome
I WILL POST THE PHOTOS SOON
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The lower the ISO, the more detailed the images. That's the main factor for more detailed images.
You can only change ISO settings in Manual mode, that's why I barely use Superior Auto mode.
Take a look at these pictures of mine:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157641512651095/
Almost (if not) all of these pictures I've taken in Manual mode, 20.7 megapixels, with ISO set to 50 (and changing the White Balance accordingly as well - the Xperia Z1 gets auto white balance wrong most of the time). Mind you that this low ISO only works in well lit situations and you need to keep your device steady. As for shooting macro: the Z1 isn't worse than the competition. You can get close enough for most close up images. True macro photography can only be done by attaching a macro lens to the device (they're pretty cheap online).
If you have more questions, please do ask :cyclops:
EDIT: if you want closer-up pictures, try setting the ISO to 50 and zooming in digitally. You'll be able to get pretty sharp 8 megapixel images for example, zooming in just a little bit. This is what I did in my Flickr album as well, mostly with the Lego figure.
Hermantje said:
The lower the ISO, the more detailed the images. That's the main factor for more detailed images.
You can only change ISO settings in Manual mode, that's why I barely use Superior Auto mode.
Take a look at these pictures of mine:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157641512651095/
Almost (if not) all of these pictures I've taken in Manual mode, 20.7 megapixels, with ISO set to 50 (and changing the White Balance accordingly as well - the Xperia Z1 gets auto white balance wrong most of the time). Mind you that this low ISO only works in well lit situations and you need to keep your device steady. As for shooting macro: the Z1 isn't worse than the competition. You can get close enough for most close up images. True macro photography can only be done by attaching a macro lens to the device (they're pretty cheap online).
If you have more questions, please do ask :cyclops:
EDIT: if you want closer-up pictures, try setting the ISO to 50 and zooming in digitally. You'll be able to get pretty sharp 8 megapixel images for example, zooming in just a little bit. This is what I did in my Flickr album as well, mostly with the Lego figure.
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Hey @Hermantje . your photos are really cool.my question is :1. are you using some image tuning or editing apps after taking photos or those on your flickr are just simply taked and uploaded?
2.my phone is taking pictures with weak colors...if i will set the low ISO i will get stronger colors on my pictures? it's night in my country s i cant try now'
Thanks!
Anonymuszymus said:
Hey @Hermantje . your photos are really cool.my question is :1. are you using some image tuning or editing apps after taking photos or those on your flickr are just simply taked and uploaded?
2.my phone is taking pictures with weak colors...if i will set the low ISO i will get stronger colors on my pictures? it's night in my country s i cant try now'
Thanks!
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The last few pictures in my Flickr album have been photoshopped to my liking, yes. But more than half aren't. Especially the ones with the Lego figure are straight off the camera. Check the picture description to be sure though: sometimes I wrote whether or not I edited them before uploading. And some have a Flickr filter (from the Android app) as well.
Funny thing is: most of the Lego figure pictures are digitally zoomed in, as far as Sony likes to call "lossless digital zoom". I really cannot even tell which is and which isn't :silly:
If weak colours are an issue, make sure you set the white balance correctly. I'm assuming you mean that images don't look correctly saturated? This is what I notice in superior auto mode as well, where white balance is done automatically.
The Sony Xperia Z1 has a horrible automatic white balance. If you can, really do set it manually. I rarely take pictures with Auto White Balance anymore.
In short:
If you just keep the ISO as low as possible and you set the white balance correctly, your pictures will suddenly look a lot better!
(Try to keep the ISO at 50 unless images turn black or really dark. You'll have to experiment which ISO is the lowest where you still get bright enough shots)
Hmm, I should start a Photography Guide for the Xperia Z1... :angel:
Hermantje said:
The last few pictures in my Flickr album have been photoshopped to my liking, yes. But more than half aren't. Especially the ones with the Lego figure are straight off the camera. Check the picture description to be sure though: sometimes I wrote whether or not I edited them before uploading. And some have a Flickr filter (from the Android app) as well.
Funny thing is: most of the Lego figure pictures are digitally zoomed in, as far as Sony likes to call "lossless digital zoom". I really cannot even tell which is and which isn't :silly:
If weak colours are an issue, make sure you set the white balance correctly. I'm assuming you mean that images don't look correctly saturated? This is what I notice in superior auto mode as well, where white balance is done automatically.
The Sony Xperia Z1 has a horrible automatic white balance. If you can, really do set it manually. I rarely take pictures with Auto White Balance anymore.
In short:
If you just keep the ISO as low as possible and you set the white balance correctly, your pictures will suddenly look a lot better!
(Try to keep the ISO at 50 unless images turn black or really dark. You'll have to experiment which ISO is the lowest where you still get bright enough shots)
Hmm, I should start a Photography Guide for the Xperia Z1... :angel:
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yeah...now i got it.thank you
What is the white setting to adjust to?
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jcsy said:
What is the white setting to adjust to?
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in manual mode you have in the stock camera app an icon what looks like an equalizer.when you click on it you have a lane where you can se it to low or high...i think that is the white setting,balance or whatever
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What is the white setting to adjust to?
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Are you asking how to set the White Balance?
Well, there are a couple of icons indicating lighting circumstances. Try for yourself which is the most accurate to real life.
Obviously the sun is for sunny weather, and the cloud is for cloudy weather. It's not that difficult, really.
Just saw it and was messing around. There is a wb auto there I notice. That must be the white balance lol.
I never had any camera interest, and only recently I bothered with these because of the z1
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this what i get
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbaeaqfpkgh6fzo/DSC_0123.JPG?dl=0 please any suggestions
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vgv2u9cox9fvze/DSC_0130.JPG?dl=0 macro

[Camera] Is it just me .....whats your settings?

Ok coming from Samsung , HTC, Asus and iPhone (I know I here you gasp)
I pretty much use my rear camera alot for work purposes, no selfies
Mostly its point and shoot I do and I know the camera on these are for ppl getting the right shot manually due to the settings
Have tried apps on this phone Like :
Camera FV-5 (same kind of results)
Open Camera (which seems to stay active in the background)
Now heres my question if you quickly take a photo, point and shoot (focusing first) using highest resolution
Once you zoom into the taken picture, its all grainy even if its took about 3-4 feet away from you
Now, if you take the same picture with monochrome its a better pic and if focusing on say a bottle with writing
Its more visible to read compared to the colour as the colour looks like its a water painting
Are you guys getting the same results or know preferred settings to use?
Thanks
Try to set the resolution to 12mp to enable the 2x "optical" zoom.
The color sensor is only a 12mp one, the monochrome sensor has 20mp.
If you enable 20mp in settings, the camera will make a monochrome and color photo and merge them into one. This is also the reason why the 20mp photos are a bit blurry or too bright on edges.
So, use 12mp and the grain should be mostly gone.
Here are three shots by me:
https://imgur.com/a/BYf7kIX - played with focus, no aperture feature.
https://imgur.com/a/xA2qURk - just a free hand picture in 12mp without zoom
https://imgur.com/a/RbEdeiI - and the same with 2x optical zoom.
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Try to set the resolution to 12mp to enable the 2x "optical" zoom.
The color sensor is only a 12mp one, the monochrome sensor has 20mp.
If you enable 20mp in settings, the camera will make a monochrome and color photo and merge them into one. This is also the reason why the 20mp photos are a bit blurry or too bright on edges.
So, use 12mp and the grain should be mostly gone.
Here are three shots by me:
https://imgur.com/a/BYf7kIX - played with focus, no aperture feature.
https://imgur.com/a/xA2qURk - just a free hand picture in 12mp without zoom
https://imgur.com/a/RbEdeiI - and the same with 2x optical zoom.
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Thanks for comments
Is this with stock camera? stock rom?
as My pics are no where near as good as this on 8.0.0.379(C02)
EwOkie said:
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Is this with stock camera? stock rom?
as My pics are no where near as good as this on 8.0.0.379(C02)
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Everything stock, 8.0.0.370 on VTR-L29C432, stock EMUI camera.
Can you show some examples?
Desk is about 4-5 feet away from me when taking these shots
Sunny outside
Just normal photo and putting focus on the bottles as shown (seen in zoomed photo)
You can clearly see they look terrible apart from monochrome
No settings have been touched apart from resolution
Zoom is about 4.6x
Monochrome
12MP
20MP
Zoomed in
I put some crap on the desk but if you can see the text is visible on some stuff to give you an idea

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