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So this is my first Nexus device. I'm coming from and S4 followed by a Note 3 so I'm kinda used to the samsung environment and don't want to screw anything up. I have a couple of questions.
First, if I root with CF-Auto Root, does the tool wipe all of the current data?
Second, how will rooting the phone affect the OTA updates and their availability?
Third, are the root apps already compatible with 5.0/Nexus 6?
Thank you!
Cf auto root does not remove all data per se, but unlocking your phone will if it is not.. And it's part of the process.
Rooting probably doesn't affect OTAs, and if it does, can easily be undone.
Yes, I haven't found a common root app that isn't compatible.
Dankchild said:
So this is my first Nexus device. I'm coming from and S4 followed by a Note 3 so I'm kinda used to the samsung environment and don't want to screw anything up. I have a couple of questions.
First, if I root with CF-Auto Root, does the tool wipe all of the current data?
Second, how will rooting the phone affect the OTA updates and their availability?
Third, are the root apps already compatible with 5.0/Nexus 6?
Thank you!
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1. No it does not wipe your data unless your bootloader was locked.
2. It has no effect. You'll be able to accept the OTA and lose root (you can enable a survival script).
3. Yes.
Dankchild said:
So this is my first Nexus device. I'm coming from and S4 followed by a Note 3 so I'm kinda used to the samsung environment and don't want to screw anything up. I have a couple of questions.
First, if I root with CF-Auto Root, does the tool wipe all of the current data?
Second, how will rooting the phone affect the OTA updates and their availability?
Third, are the root apps already compatible with 5.0/Nexus 6?
Thank you!
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some people here are wrong, will it wipe data? for the first time (when unlocking the OEM) yes. Lollipop now has a different way to check ROOTING, once it detects you modified ANY file in the system core files, it aborts. To work around this, either use a ROM and upgrade via FLASHING (which i do) or use NEXUS ROOT TOOLKIT. Using the toolkit (which is very noob friendly) allows everything to be done by a click. BUT, to upgrade via toolkit, (ota) you need to flash stock which in the toolkit completely wipe system, then unroot, then update, then reroot and flash whatever ROM you want, which would again wipe your device. the way i do it is easier, it requires no wiping and i get to keep my ROM at all times and i get earlier versions (depending on ROM creators) then OTA, i currently have 5.0.2 on my nexus 6, which isnt ven out yet OTA. :fingers-crossed:
TheSkillfulTroll said:
some people here are wrong, will it wipe data? for the first time (when unlocking the OEM) yes. Lollipop now has a different way to check ROOTING, once it detects you modified ANY file in the system core files, it aborts. To work around this, either use a ROM and upgrade via FLASHING (which i do) or use NEXUS ROOT TOOLKIT. Using the toolkit (which is very noob friendly) allows everything to be done by a click. BUT, to upgrade via toolkit, (ota) you need to flash stock which in the toolkit completely wipe system, then unroot, then update, then reroot and flash whatever ROM you want, which would again wipe your device. the way i do it is easier, it requires no wiping and i get to keep my ROM at all times and i get earlier versions (depending on ROM creators) then OTA, i currently have 5.0.2 on my nexus 6, which isnt ven out yet OTA. :fingers-crossed:
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People modify the OTA zip to remove the abort of installation if any system files are modified/removed. Of course this can lead to problems, but can also be successful most of the times. Depends on what the user modifies.
Nexus Root Toolkits, I highly do not encourage users to use this. As easy as they are, they prevent users from learning about fastboot and adb. They are essential things to learn and relying on a program to do them for you is not good practice especially when it is quite easy to do it manually. If everybody used the toolkit then no body would understand how its done.
The part about custom ROMs, I recommend using custom ROMs. There are many to browse through, it depends on what you're looking for. Its very exciting to look at all the ROMs to select one to try, just to be eager to try another ROM for fun.
You can read more about toolkits @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/dangers-tool-kits-one-click-root-t1469909
Very good read.
zephiK said:
People modify the OTA zip to remove the abort of installation if any system files are modified/removed. Of course this can lead to problems, but can also be successful most of the times. Depends on what the user modifies.
Nexus Root Toolkits, I highly do not encourage users to use this. As easy as they are, they prevent users from learning about fastboot and adb. They are essential things to learn and relying on a program to do them for you is not good practice especially when it is quite easy to do it manually. If everybody used the toolkit then no body would understand how its done.
The part about custom ROMs, I recommend using custom ROMs. There are many to browse through, it depends on what you're looking for. Its very exciting to look at all the ROMs to select one to try, just to be eager to try another ROM for fun.
You can read more about toolkits @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/dangers-tool-kits-one-click-root-t1469909
Very good read.
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the toolkit helps alot of new comers who have no idea on what to do, sure they can try the manual way, but doing so can end up very bad as its not easy to revert, while the toolkit helps by being able to bring you back from bricks. i started off using the toolkit and now i just use flashify for rom installations, if anything goes wrong (a brick) i just have tbe option to use the toolkit to set me back to pure stock and factory condition.
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the toolkit helps alot of new comers who have no idea on what to do, sure they can try the manual way, but doing so can end up very bad as its not easy to revert, while the toolkit helps by being able to bring you back from bricks. i started off using the toolkit and now i just use flashify for rom installations, if anything goes wrong (a brick) i just have tbe option to use the toolkit to set me back to pure stock and factory condition.
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Its very easy to do manually, if it was a long and tedious step such as G1 rooting or manually exploiting a phone then a toolkit is reasonable.
For Nexus 6, its as simple as.
1. install drivers & fastboot.
2. bootloader mode (vol down + power)
3. fastboot oem unlock
4. fastboot flash recovery <name-of-recovery>.img
5. flash supersu
A very good sticky guide is posted, http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
And we all know that regardless if you use a Root Toolkit, you MUST read before you do anything.
Toolkit doesn't really help you bring you back from bricks, in fact I would argue that it does the opposite. You're relying on a program to do what you're supposed to do. In my experience of helping people in XDA forums, they've used toolkits and got themselves into bad positions and wasn't sure how to fix their problem or the toolkit soft-bricking their device. They had to learn fastboot / adb to resolve their issue.
Read the dangers of toolkits, they're not as fancy as people view it to be. Its not difficult to do the tasks manually. Very easy to do. I was able to root/unlock my N6 in a minute since I already had the environment set up.
Think of it this way, you have math homework. You can either go input it into the calculator and have the answer. Congrats, you have the answer but did you understand how they got to that step? No not really.
Its imperative for any user on XDA to learn the fastboot/adb step, its not difficult as I've mentioned time and time again. It takes some reading, but it'll save you time because later down the line you'll understand why you did what you did and you can get yourself out of situations instead of going to Q&A and asking for someone help on how to get back to factory or a soft-brick situation.
A snippet from the link above,
The people who are using these scripts aren't learning what is actually happening when they press 1 on their keyboard. Boom, their phone is unlocked, su-binaries and cwm recovery installed. Then, they flash a rom without creating a nandroid. What happens if something goes wrong and they didn't place any safety nets to help them? They post a thread saying their phone is bricked. People take time out of their day to help these people out, but since the user doesn't understand what the helper is talking about, they can't fix it.
Just last weekend I spent 30 minutes replying to a PM with step by step instructions how to flash stock images and including links to files and resources. The person replied back. Instead of fixing his phone himself, he said he "claimed his phone as stolen and will be getting sent a new one lol". WTF?! Not only is that morally wrong, it's also insurance fraud. And we wonder why carriers and OEM's are trying as hard as they can to lock down non-nexus phones.
Please, take the time to learn how to get yourself out of a mess before you are in a mess.
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If someone can't take a couple minutes out of their time to follow a step-by-step guide then they shouldn't be tinkering with their device.
For information sake (I have already rooted via TK) your post actually does prove a point. For myself and maybe others, would you be willing to P.M me the instructions to do it via ADB/Fastboot just in case , I , myself get screwed over. Thanks Z
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flash you phone manually you will learn a lot about how the toolkits work.
I find it faster to flash manually than to use a tool kit.
once an OTA is available you can grap the image from the google site and flash the files manually.
There is a way to manually flash you phone and save userdata so you keep all your apps.
One you learn and get a little practice It will be so easy you will be able to flash like it is second nature. (I was a noob that came from iphone and jailbreaking)
I can actually flash the files manually faster that an OTA can update a phone and I type with maybe a total of 6 fingers. because i never took a typing class
zephiK said:
Its very easy to do manually, if it was a long and tedious step such as G1 rooting or manually exploiting a phone then a toolkit is reasonable.
For Nexus 6, its as simple as.
1. install drivers & fastboot.
2. bootloader mode (vol down + power)
3. fastboot oem unlock
4. fastboot flash recovery <name-of-recovery>.img
5. flash supersu
A very good sticky guide is posted, http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
And we all know that regardless if you use a Root Toolkit, you MUST read before you do anything.
Toolkit doesn't really help you bring you back from bricks, in fact I would argue that it does the opposite. You're relying on a program to do what you're supposed to do. In my experience of helping people in XDA forums, they've used toolkits and got themselves into bad positions and wasn't sure how to fix their problem or the toolkit soft-bricking their device. They had to learn fastboot / adb to resolve their issue.
Read the dangers of toolkits, they're not as fancy as people view it to be. Its not difficult to do the tasks manually. Very easy to do. I was able to root/unlock my N6 in a minute since I already had the environment set up.
Think of it this way, you have math homework. You can either go input it into the calculator and have the answer. Congrats, you have the answer but did you understand how they got to that step? No not really.
Its imperative for any user on XDA to learn the fastboot/adb step, its not difficult as I've mentioned time and time again. It takes some reading, but it'll save you time because later down the line you'll understand why you did what you did and you can get yourself out of situations instead of going to Q&A and asking for someone help on how to get back to factory or a soft-brick situation.
A snippet from the link above,
If someone can't take a couple minutes out of their time to follow a step-by-step guide then they shouldn't be tinkering with their device.
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Can you provide to me instructions on a manual way? Like the other poster said I would like to learn to manually flash OEM unlucks and root and Roms (if possible) thanks Z! P.M ME if you decide to thanks!
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if you have drivers installed already from first link above then you can follow these steps:
Download the required factory image files to your computer and extract them
1) Create an empty directory. All of the files that are required, need to be in one (i.e., the same) directory. It does not matter what it is called, but all the files need to be in there, with NO subfolders. EVERYTHING needs to be extracted into this one directory; (it is easier this way)
2) If all you want to do is unlock your bootloader, skip to step 6 in this section.
3) Download the version of Android you want to your new directory. Make sure you are using a nexus 6 image.
4) Extract the files from within the .tgz file which you downloaded in step 3 using 7-zip, not WinZip or WinRAR or whatever.
5) Make sure you have extracted ALL the files (including extracting any files in any archives inside the .tgz file). You should have six (6) files ending with .img in the directory you created in step 1. The other files you extracted from the .tgz are not necessary;
6) Reboot your device into bootloader mode (by turning it off, hold volume down, and press and hold power) and plug it into your computer;
7) Open a command prompt in the same directory (i.e., make sure you are in the same directory as your files are located). You can hold the shift key when you are in the folder in Windows explorer and right-click in a blank spot and it will open a command prompt. In Ubuntu just cd to the directory.
Type in the commands into the command prompt
1) Make sure your computer recognizes your device by typing: fastboot devices
2) Unlock your bootloader (if you have not already done so): fastboot oem unlock
3) You will see a prompt on your device. This will wipe your entire device (including the /sdcard folder). Accept. Note: you use the volume keys to change the option and the power button to accept. You cannot use the touch screen.
4) Reboot by typing: fastboot reboot-bootloader
5) Flash the bootloader: fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-some-description-number.img (or whatever the name of the bootloader image that you downloaded).
6) Reboot: fastboot reboot-bootloader
7) Flash the radio: fastboot flash radio radio-some-description-number.img (or whatever the name is of the radio image that you downloaded).
8) Reboot: fastboot reboot-bootloader
9) Flash the system partition: fastboot flash system system.img
10) Optional, but read note. Flash the data partition: fastboot flash userdata userdata.img Note: this command will wipe your device (including /sdcard), EVEN if your bootloader is already unlocked.
11) Flash the kernel/ramdisk: fastboot flash boot boot.img
12) Flash the recovery partition: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
13) Erase the cache partition: fastboot format cache
14) Reboot: fastboot reboot
15) Done! The first boot will likely take quite a bit longer than you are used to, as Android builds the cache.
Now you have a fully stock image on your device. The only thing that is different from out-of-the-box condition is that your bootloader is unlocked.
No you can root or decrypt. Search for directions on the forum or the internet.
I'm not the original writer of these instructions, but I found these helpful to people wanting the step by step instructions.
TheSkillfulTroll said:
Can you provide to me instructions on a manual way? Like the other poster said I would like to learn to manually flash OEM unlucks and root and Roms (if possible) thanks Z! P.M ME if you decide to thanks!
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Read the first couple of posts of the following threads. The first talks about how to root, and the other, about how to flash the factory images. Very detailed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
If someone can't take a couple minutes out of their time to follow a step-by-step guide then they shouldn't be tinkering with their device.
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How true. I certainly don't want a paper weight...
Larzzzz82 said:
How true. I certainly don't want a paper weight...
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Exactly, and if they believe that everything is magical and click on a button "yay I rooted, unlocked my bootloader." Sure you saved time by clicking a button rather than following a step-by-step guide which is quite easy, what happens when you encounter a problem like a soft brick? Questions on whether or not you can flash a older radio etc?
A toolkit can't do that for you, by finding out why something works this way will be better in the long run. I don't mind answering questions but what I do mind is when people use toolkits for something that is already so easy. For Samsung and other manufacturers that lock down their bootloaders, I fully understand why toolkits are needed because they are not unlockable via bootloader mode (unless its HTC, OnePlus, and some other exception) and requires a exploit to obtain root access (e.g. Towelroot).
For Nexus devices (and HTC/OnePlus/etc) devices where the company gave you a "fastboot oem unlock." Use it very simple to do. The hardest part is installing a driver and fastboot executable, which if you have a mac you don't even need the driver. Once you do it once, you're set for life on that computer. When I unlocked my N6, I just literally plugged it in... activated the OEM unlock via developer options and went into bootloader mode and typed fastboot oem unlock.
Finished that all in one minute.
zephiK said:
Exactly, and if they believe that everything is magical and click on a button "yay I rooted, unlocked my bootloader." Sure you saved time by clicking a button rather than following a step-by-step guide which is quite easy, what happens when you encounter a problem like a soft brick? Questions on whether or not you can flash a older radio etc?
A toolkit can't do that for you, by finding out why something works this way will be better in the long run. I don't mind answering questions but what I do mind is when people use toolkits for something that is already so easy. For Samsung and other manufacturers that lock down their bootloaders, I fully understand why toolkits are needed because they are not unlockable via bootloader mode (unless its HTC, OnePlus, and some other exception) and requires a exploit to obtain root access (e.g. Towelroot).
For Nexus devices (and HTC/OnePlus/etc) devices where the company gave you a "fastboot oem unlock." Use it very simple to do. The hardest part is installing a driver and fastboot executable, which if you have a mac you don't even need the driver. Once you do it once, you're set for life on that computer. When I unlocked my N6, I just literally plugged it in... activated the OEM unlock via developer options and went into bootloader mode and typed fastboot oem unlock.
Finished that all in one minute.
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I agree the hardest part for me was on windows trying to get the stupid drivers to work correctly.
Dumped windows for Linux and followed the manual steps i found on XDA and never looked back.
No drivers needed in Linux either.
TheSkillfulTroll said:
some people here are wrong, will it wipe data? for the first time (when unlocking the OEM) yes. Lollipop now has a different way to check ROOTING, once it detects you modified ANY file in the system core files, it aborts. To work around this, either use a ROM and upgrade via FLASHING (which i do) or use NEXUS ROOT TOOLKIT. Using the toolkit (which is very noob friendly) allows everything to be done by a click. BUT, to upgrade via toolkit, (ota) you need to flash stock which in the toolkit completely wipe system, then unroot, then update, then reroot and flash whatever ROM you want, which would again wipe your device. the way i do it is easier, it requires no wiping and i get to keep my ROM at all times and i get earlier versions (depending on ROM creators) then OTA, i currently have 5.0.2 on my nexus 6, which isnt ven out yet OTA. :fingers-crossed:
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Yes, this is my main concern. Back in my Samsung days, i remember flashing ROMs everyday, but the whole wiping got really annoying. When i got my Nexus 5 i just kept it stock. Now I do want to root to use the double tap to wake and the LED, but i don't want to wipe everytime there's an update. From what I remember, whenever you flash a ROM you have to wipe the phone. So is there a way around having to wipe your phone completely everytime there's an update?
miike1106 said:
Yes, this is my main concern. Back in my Samsung days, i remember flashing ROMs everyday, but the whole wiping got really annoying. When i got my Nexus 5 i just kept it stock. Now I do want to root to use the double tap to wake and the LED, but i don't want to wipe everytime there's an update. From what I remember, whenever you flash a ROM you have to wipe the phone. So is there a way around having to wipe your phone completely everytime there's an update?
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Say you flashed SimpleAosp which is currently 5.0.2, whenever 5.0.3 comes out you need to Download it on your phone, open flashify and boot into TWRP, in there you need click install then DONT WIPE, find the updated version and flash over the current one, reboot and bam, you have new version and you didn't lose anything. Only do this method if you are transition from the same ROM to a new one, if you decided to go from SimpleAosp to liquidsmooth you need to wipe.
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TheSkillfulTroll said:
Say you flashed SimpleAosp which is currently 5.0.2, whenever 5.0.3 comes out you need to Download it on your phone, open flashify and boot into TWRP, in there you need click install then DONT WIPE, find the updated version and flash over the current one, reboot and bam, you have new version and you didn't lose anything. Only do this method if you are transition from the same ROM to a new one, if you decided to go from SimpleAosp to liquidsmooth you need to wipe.
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Ah ok, this is what i was looking for.
miike1106 said:
Ah ok, this is what i was looking for.
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Or... You could live dangerously and try a dirty flash first every time... Worst case... You go back and wipe in recovery
miike1106 said:
Yes, this is my main concern. Back in my Samsung days, i remember flashing ROMs everyday, but the whole wiping got really annoying. When i got my Nexus 5 i just kept it stock. Now I do want to root to use the double tap to wake and the LED, but i don't want to wipe everytime there's an update. From what I remember, whenever you flash a ROM you have to wipe the phone. So is there a way around having to wipe your phone completely everytime there's an update?
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You can dirty flash but this is only the case when you update from the same ROM to a newer update of the version.
When we say wipe, it only wipes the OS not internal storage.
Root Toolkit for Android M
Download the Toolkit here.
For Step 1 - 1.2 you need to boot into Fastboot Mode.
For Step 2 & 3 you need to boot into your recovery and adb sideload.
For Step 4 you need to enable USB DEBUGGING.
Greetings ericgaebel​
This should not be post in development section q&a.
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Thank you op
ericgaebel said:
Hello,
this is how to root Android M Developer Preview on the Nexus 5.
1. You must flash TWRP or CWM Recovery via Fastboot or the Nexus Root Toolkit.
2. Download the latest SuperSU Beta from here
3. Download the latest Kernel Patch from here
4. Put the files on your internal storage
5. Boot into your recovery then press "install zip from sd card"
6. As first flash SuperSU and then the Kernel Patch.
7. Boot up your phone normally then install BusyBox.
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1- no you shouldn't use a toolkit. If you need a toolkit you shouldn't be flashing a developer preview
2- there isn't just despair kernel. There is also code blue and hellscore which all offer different features
3- flashing the kernel first is probably the better way around
Not being rude. But just giving you some info you are possibly unaware of
Sent from my Android M Nexus 5 yo!
Ben36 said:
1- no you shouldn't use a toolkit. If you need a toolkit you shouldn't be flashing a developer preview
2- there isn't just despair kernel. There is also code blue and hellscore which all offer different features
3- flashing the kernel first is probably the better way around
Not being rude. But just giving you some info you are possibly unaware of
Sent from my Android M Nexus 5 yo!
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Is there a reason why we shouldn't use a toolkit? I've never had any problems. I've flashed images both ways and I can't tell the difference only that the toolkit is great.
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Nothing wrong with using a toolkit.
I'm on M and flashed with Wugfresh.
Flashed Twrp using adb / fastboot via cmd line
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uploaded my own little toolkit including all the .img and .zip files. FOR YOU GUYS!
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Toolkits really aren't needed with Nexus devices since it is ridiculously easy to complete common tasks with adb, fastboot and your recovery.
Newcomers to the Nexus 5 are better off learning to use adb and fastboot since they will be better prepared to fix their device should something go wrong.
Horses for courses. I know I'd o ly ever use a toolkit by Wugfresh as it's never let me down ever. There are bad toolkits out there, which is the problem. People use them and don't know the basic principles of flashing images.
We don't all start with nexus. Some phones are a pain to root and if a toolkit does it OK. Hopefully then The bug to learn has taken root, literally.
No one who is not a Dev should be flashing this and making toolkits so noobs can is irresponsible at best. Its not stable. Its not meant for daily use, especially by noobs. Lollipop has only just been sorted out. Stick with that.
I'd like to see this closed as people are going to brick their phones
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Hi guys -
I'm somewhat a newbie here. I think I have bricked my Nexus 6. I had root and an unlocked bootloader. I had Chroma riom installed and was trying to go back to stock rom, unrooted with locked bootloader and through TWRP i deleted everything, including the OS I believe. So now my phone is locked on the Google startup screen (unlocked bootloader) . Suggestions?
Thanks -
John
if your bootloader is unlocked you should be able to fastboot clear cache and user data , then flash a rom from twrp. I would refrain from ever locking the bootloader back up since the update where you have to enable unlock bootloader in Dev Options.
droidstyle said:
if your bootloader is unlocked you should be able to fastboot clear cache and user data , then flash a rom from twrp. I would refrain from ever locking the bootloader back up since the update where you have to enable unlock bootloader in Dev Options.
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me too I'm have Nexus 6 5.1.1 no recovery...except the bootloader that's locked Code: 2 , i can't unlock it, any solution !!?
hadifreestyler said:
me too I'm have Nexus 6 5.1.1 no recovery...except the bootloader that's locked Code: 2 , i can't unlock it, any solution !!?
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no you are bricked unfortunately. the unlock bootlader option in dev options really seems to have caused more issues then good.
I am wondering if Jtag will fix these devices?
jpl81905 said:
Suggestions?
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Stop.
Read.
A lot.
You have an unlocked nexus with custom recovery installed, and you don't know what to do? You shouldn't be messing with this stuff. You lack VERY basic understanding. Read the stickies.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en
Factory images. Follow their directions.
scryan said:
Stop.
Read.
A lot.
You have an unlocked nexus with custom recovery installed, and you don't know what to do? You shouldn't be messing with this stuff. You lack VERY basic understanding. Read the stickies.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en
Factory images. Follow their directions.
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Thank you. I think.
jpl81905 said:
Hi guys -
I'm somewhat a newbie here. I think I have bricked my Nexus 6. I had root and an unlocked bootloader. I had Chroma riom installed and was trying to go back to stock rom, unrooted with locked bootloader and through TWRP i deleted everything, including the OS I believe. So now my phone is locked on the Google startup screen (unlocked bootloader) . Suggestions?
Thanks -
John
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The easiest way if you are not familiar with ADB is to download the nexus tool kit located on these forums from WUGFRESH. That tool will walk you through a step by step process on how to flash stock back. You are far from bricked. I have deleted my entire phone many a times and just re flashed stock back easily. As long as your boot loader is unlocked you are fine
Link to toolkit: http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
The option you are going to want to use is on the front of the toolkit called flash stock + un-root. You can watch some videos on his website as well for flashing stock. That is all you need to do .
Any questions let me know, send me a PM
backdown00 said:
The easiest way if you are not familiar with ADB is to download the nexus tool kit located on these forums from WUGFRESH. That tool will walk you through a step by step process on how to flash stock back. You are far from bricked. I have deleted my entire phone many a times and just re flashed stock back easily. As long as your boot loader is unlocked you are fine
Link to toolkit: http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
The option you are going to want to use is on the front of the toolkit called flash stock + un-root. You can watch some videos on his website as well for flashing stock. That is all you need to do .
Any questions let me know, send me a PM
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It is not the easiest option. The easiest option is plug the USB cable in, boot to TWRP, enable MTP mode and copy a rom to the sdcard.
Also, many senior members here will discourage the use of toolkits for those who are not familiar with adb or fastboot. It is best to learn these and use them at least once before starting to use toolkits. Toolkits do not "walk you through". They take you through without explaining anything.
danarama said:
It is not the easiest option. The easiest option is plug the USB cable in, boot to TWRP, enable MTP mode and copy a rom to the sdcard.
Also, many senior members here will discourage the use of toolkits for those who are not familiar with adb or fastboot. It is best to learn these and use them at least once before starting to use toolkits. Toolkits do not "walk you through". They take you through without explaining anything.
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In a perfect world, I am sure we would all love to dive in and discover everything and be experts in all fields as time would not be a factor. I do not disagree it is helpful to learn ADB and fastboot commands and understand what they do. At this point in time though, the end goal here is to get his phone back up and running as fast as possible and then he can do the post-mortem to figure out what he did wrong and how to fix it .
I am guessing hes not very familiar with TWRP since he wound up in this situation. The toolkit alleviates the need for knowledge and gets the job done. I'm sure after this, the OP will research how to use his phone before trying to do anything next.
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In a perfect world, I am sure we would all love to dive in and discover everything and be experts in all fields as time would not be a factor. I do not disagree it is helpful to learn ADB and fastboot commands and understand what they do. At this point in time though, the end goal here is to get his phone back up and running as fast as possible and then he can do the post-mortem to figure out what he did wrong and how to fix it .
I am guessing hes not very familiar with TWRP since he wound up in this situation. The toolkit alleviates the need for knowledge and gets the job done. I'm sure after this, the OP will research how to use his phone before trying to do anything next.
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..but even so, your method is overkill. It is really simple to boot into TWRP and look in the menu for the "Enable MTP" option. Once that is done, the phone appears in "Computer" as an MTP device, just like when you boot into android. Then, simply dragging and dropping a ROM onto that device then flashing it via recovery will get him back up and running. There is nothing simpler or quicker than this.
Sorry, I do not intend to be confrontational here.
Hi Everyone
I have recently returned my Nexus 6 back to stock from Rooted 5.1.X roms by manually flashing the official google Marshmallow images. Now that 6.0 Roms are making their way out, I would like to get back to having the ability to flash the different roms. However, I am a little confused on how to successfully and easily accomplish the root and TWRP install process. I see that some of the new 6.0 ROMS say they are rooted, but I am confused on what that means.
Does anyone have a link or steps with links that you can provide so I can get my Nexus 6 ready to have custom roms flashed?
Thanks in advance!
TPADroid said:
Hi Everyone
I have recently returned my Nexus 6 back to stock from Rooted 5.1.X roms by manually flashing the official google Marshmallow images. Now that 6.0 Roms are making their way out, I would like to get back to having the ability to flash the different roms. However, I am a little confused on how to successfully and easily accomplish the root and TWRP install process. I see that some of the new 6.0 ROMS say they are rooted, but I am confused on what that means.
Does anyone have a link or steps with links that you can provide so I can get my Nexus 6 ready to have custom roms flashed?
Thanks in advance!
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First this does not belong in the Development sections, moved here. Secondly please read the Forum Rules on posting...thanks.
Thank you for moving to the appropriate location.
as it is for every nexus, regardless of what android version youre on..
1. unlock your bootloader
2. fastboot flash twrp recovery
3. flash the latest supersu in twrp recovery
4. reboot with root
on marshmallow, with the stock rom, you will also want to flash a custom kernel with as well.
Well you need an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery to flash custom roms.
1. Make sure that you have OEM unlock ticked in dev options
2. Use fastboot oem unlock command to unlock bootloader (this will wipe your phone completely, make a backup before doing this)
3. Use fastboot to flash twrp recovery
4. If you would like to keep stock rom and have root then you need to flash root script from chainfire or install custom rom with root already built in
5. Download and flash any rom of your choice (You can use adb sideload to sideload roms instead of having to copy them to the phone to flash)
Here is a good place to start to learn how http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
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as it is for every nexus, regardless of what android version youre on..
1. unlock your bootloader
2. fastboot flash twrp recovery
3. flash the latest supersu in twrp recovery
4. reboot with root
on marshmallow, with the stock rom, you will also want to flash a custom kernel with as well.
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Thank you Simms
When you are referring to unlocking the bootloader, it seems pretty self explanatory, from the google search...but I have seen where there are new boot.img files to apply via adb....is this unlocking the bootloader in 6.0? Or am I making this more complicated than it really needs to be. It seems that most ROMS now have an embedded Kernel...so I would flash one immediately #3. The one ROM I would like to try first is Chroma on 6.0.
Getting TWRP installed, I completely get and every step after that one...its the modified boot.img files I have seen, that is confusing me.
Thanks!
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Thank you Simms
When you are referring to unlocking the bootloader, it seems pretty self explanatory, from the google search...but I have seen where there are new boot.img files to apply via adb....is this unlocking the bootloader in 6.0? Or am I making this more complicated than it really needs to be. It seems that most ROMS now have an embedded Kernel...so I would flash one immediately #3. The one ROM I would like to try first is Chroma on 6.0.
Getting TWRP installed, I completely get and every step after that one...its the modified boot.img files I have seen, that is confusing me.
Thanks!
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The boot.img files that your referring to are probably to un-encrypt your phone. I personally don't but other always have. Supposed to make it faster although i haven't been bothered by it being slow.
To unlock the bootloader all you have to do is used fastboot oem unlock via fastboot while your phone is in the bootloader mode.
You don't need a custom kernel anymore thanks to Chainfire. Just use the Nexus root kit. Be sure to change the root settings in the NRK to approve beta SuperSu by Chainfire as stated in wugfresh Google+ post in step 3.
plus.google.com/u/0/113329792100896065459/posts/93WR63UHuEp[
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You don't need a custom kernel anymore thanks to Chainfire. Just use the Nexus root kit. Be sure to change the root settings in the NRK to approve beta SuperSu by Chainfire as stated in wugfresh Google+ post in step 3.
plus.google.com/u/0/113329792100896065459/posts/93WR63UHuEp[
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no more kernel then, cool. but this is not a good idea to tell a newbie to use a toolkit, as he wont learn a single thing about , ever. and root toolkits mess up on occasion. they mess up enough to make a newbie think they bricked their phone. sure, chances are that everything will be fine, but the op will come out of it learning absolutely nothing, when the proper way is very easy and faster.
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TPADroid said:
Thank you Simms
When you are referring to unlocking the bootloader, it seems pretty self explanatory, from the google search...but I have seen where there are new boot.img files to apply via adb....is this unlocking the bootloader in 6.0? Or am I making this more complicated than it really needs to be. It seems that most ROMS now have an embedded Kernel...so I would flash one immediately #3. The one ROM I would like to try first is Chroma on 6.0.
Getting TWRP installed, I completely get and every step after that one...its the modified boot.img files I have seen, that is confusing me.
Thanks!
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thats a kernel thatll let you unencrypt, if you want.
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no more kernel then, cool. but this is not a good idea to tell a newbie to use a toolkit, as he wont learn a single thing about , ever. and root toolkits mess up on occasion. they mess up enough to make a newbie think they bricked their phone. sure, chances are that everything will be fine, but the op will come out of it learning absolutely nothing, when the proper way is very easy and faster.
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He did say easy and it doesn't get any easier than the toolkit. But if you want to do it manually follow the easy to read instructions found here: androidmarvel.com/index.php/2015/10/15/402/
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He did say easy and it doesn't get any easier than the toolkit. But if you want to do it manually follow the easy to read instructions found here: androidmarvel.com/index.php/2015/10/15/402/
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sure, the manual way is MUCH easier than the toolkit. is it hard typing fastboot oem unlock? is it hard typing fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img? well, thats it. i just unlocked my bootloader and flashed the recovery.
simms22 said:
sure, the manual way is MUCH easier than the toolkit. is it hard typing fastboot oem unlock? is it hard typing fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img? well, thats it. i just unlocked my bootloader and flashed the recovery.
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I agree with you IF you know what you are doing and have everything setup. However that didn't seem to be the case which is why I recommended the toolkit.
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I agree with you IF you know what you are doing and have everything setup. However that didn't seem to be the case which is why I recommended the toolkit.
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which is why i always recommend that someone new root their phone the proper way the first time, to learn how to do it, and to learn a general way to fix your phone in case you mess up. after the first time, use toolkits all you want. but the learning how to do it properly is a very important.
TPADroid said:
Thank you Simms
When you are referring to unlocking the bootloader, it seems pretty self explanatory, from the google search...but I have seen where there are new boot.img files to apply via adb....is this unlocking the bootloader in 6.0? Or am I making this more complicated than it really needs to be. It seems that most ROMS now have an embedded Kernel...so I would flash one immediately #3. The one ROM I would like to try first is Chroma on 6.0.
Getting TWRP installed, I completely get and every step after that one...its the modified boot.img files I have seen, that is confusing me.
Thanks!
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That modified img allows for root because you cant just flash SU on the stock one (not yet anyway). Unlocking the bootloader is something different.
simms22 said:
sure, the manual way is MUCH easier than the toolkit. is it hard typing fastboot oem unlock? is it hard typing fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img? well, thats it. i just unlocked my bootloader and flashed the recovery.
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Anybody knows where is the correct toolkit?
cpugeeker said:
Anybody knows where is the correct toolkit?
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in my opening, there is no 'correct" toolkit.
Jnewell05 said:
Well you need an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery to flash custom roms.
1. Make sure that you have OEM unlock ticked in dev options
2. Use fastboot oem unlock command to unlock bootloader (this will wipe your phone completely, make a backup before doing this)
3. Use fastboot to flash twrp recovery
4. If you would like to keep stock rom and have root then you need to flash root script from chainfire or install custom rom with root already built in
5. Download and flash any rom of your choice (You can use adb sideload to sideload roms instead of having to copy them to the phone to flash)
Here is a good place to start to learn how http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
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Hey thanks for all of this information. So far I'm stuck on step 2. I'm about a year into owning this phone and don't want to lose everything. One of the main reasons I want to root is to use titanium backup. However, you say to be sure to back up your phone. How do you recommend doing this.
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Hey thanks for all of this information. So far I'm stuck on step 2. I'm about a year into owning this phone and don't want to lose everything. One of the main reasons I want to root is to use titanium backup. However, you say to be sure to back up your phone. How do you recommend doing this.
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If you haven't rooted for over a year why do it now? There are sure to be updates to how to root on the Nexus 6 and since I don't use my nexus 6 very much I hate to steer you in the wrong direction, as to backup information. I recently got the android 7.0 update and I haven't really had a chance to check it out yet. But I bet there are dozens of ways to backup if you would search Google.
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jtmartin22 said:
Hey thanks for all of this information. So far I'm stuck on step 2. I'm about a year into owning this phone and don't want to lose everything. One of the main reasons I want to root is to use titanium backup. However, you say to be sure to back up your phone. How do you recommend doing this.
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By unlocking the phone you lose everything. That's why when buying a Nexus phone, the first step should be unlocking the bootloader.
But if you want to root it anyway, then you should copy all your media and camera files to your computer. Then if you unlock it, you'll only lose some app settings. Most apps save to the cloud anyway. You can backup your text messages, and Google backups a lot of data like wallpapers or WiFi passwords. Also it will reinstall all your use apps, and since Marshmallow it will restore some app data, but that's far from consistent. For that you really need TB.
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By unlocking the phone you lose everything. That's why when buying a Nexus phone, the first step should be unlocking the bootloader.
But if you want to root it anyway, then you should copy all your media and camera files to your computer. Then if you unlock it, you'll only lose some app settings. Most apps save to the cloud anyway. You can backup your text messages, and Google backups a lot of data like wallpapers or WiFi passwords. Also it will reinstall all your use apps, and since Marshmallow it will restore some app data, but that's far from consistent. For that you really need TB.
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Thank you very much!!!!
Hey everyone I'm looking here as my last resort before sending my phone back to Motorola.
Bought a Nexus 6 from motorola uk which was delivered yesterday, switched phone on and all the Google apps on the phone updated, then had a notification OTA to download and install android 5.1 which I did, towards the end of the install process I had an error with the green android and a red exclamation mark.
I powered the device off with the power button and it turned back on and ever since it says "Android is starting" "Optimizing app 1 of 125" once it goes through all the apps it gets to the android boot screen then just goes back to the "Android is starting" "Optimizing app 1 of 125" over and over and over. (Infinite bootloop)
Pointers: The phone is not unlocked or rooted as I'm a noob its just fresh out the box, also I never opened/unlocked the developer options.
I have tried various recovery mode fixes, wiping cache and wiping all data and then rebooting the device with no luck.
Is there anyway I can hook my N6 up to my computer and fix this with a tool kit etc? I'm willing to try but I'd need basic instructions and reassurance it wouldn't muck up my warranty if it didn't work as my only other option is to exchange for a new device.
I'm a noob so I need detailed basic step by step instructions.
Any help, advice etc would be hugely appreciated. Thanks
Just send it back, no point messing about with it if it brand new could down to a fault with the hardware itself.
ixon2001 said:
Just send it back, no point messing about with it if it brand new could down to a fault with the hardware itself.
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Iv'e heard this is a common problem with the N6 whilst trying to update the OTA 5.1 I had no other apps on the phone it was fresh, I did nothing wrong, I know someone who has been through 4 devices with the same bloody issues! In the end he had to sideload 6.0 and I'm not confident in being able to do that.
Well best bet is to download wugfresh toolkit 2.10 i think is the latest version, follow the instructions carefully because first you need to unlock the bootloader then flash 6.0.1 which has just come out.
Using Wugfresh is the best way to go if your new to flashing & you can't really go wrong with it.
ixon2001 said:
Well best bet is to download wugfresh toolkit 2.10 i think is the latest version, follow the instructions carefully because first you need to unlock the bootloader then flash 6.0.1 which has just come out.
Using Wugfresh is the best way to go if your new to flashing & you can't really go wrong with it.
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I`am sure most xperienced users (me included) will not agree with you The best way to unlock, flash and root is still adb/fastboot. Especialy for lesser xperienced users that are lost is something goes wrong while using the toolkit, wich happens frequently btw. Just check the help threads.
gee2012 said:
I`am sure most xperienced users (me included) will not agree with you The best way to unlock, flash and root is still adb/fastboot. Especialy for lesser xperienced users that are lost is something goes wrong while using the toolkit, wich happens frequently btw. Just check the help threads.
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Lol it's not rocket science using adb, been doing that way for years but for somebody that never flashed, rooted ect I still think the toolkit best way to go at first because everything is done for you at a click of a button.
Yes things can go tits up when using toolkits, mainly because they don't follow simple instructions.
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Lol it's not rocket science using adb, been doing that way for years but for somebody that never flashed, rooted ect I still think the toolkit best way to go at first because everything is done for you at a click of a button.
Yes things can go tits up when using toolkits, mainly because they don't follow simple instructions.
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Lets agree to disagree
OK
ixon2001 said:
Yes things can go tits up when using toolkits, mainly because they don't follow simple instructions.
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No, but because toolkits are always behind at least one version with marshmallow. People kept bricking their devices with toolkits when marshmallow came out and they thought they could root it. As 6.0.1 came out they'll do something else wrong.
Toolkits are not help. It's the lazy way if everything is already working and up to date.
Also what can a toolkit do if this phone doesn't even have developer options turned on? If it's in boot loop, as the OP said, then the Enable OEM unlocking was never set, then the only solution is to send it back. Unless there's a toolkit magic we don't know about.
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Also what can a toolkit do if this phone doesn't even have developer options turned on? If it's in boot loop, as the OP said, then the Enable OEM unlocking was never set, then the only solution is to send it back. Unless there's a toolkit magic we don't know about.
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I think op created another thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-stuck-bootloop-trying-to-update-t3266100 for this issue - and was somehow able to unlock the bootloader (not sure how that worked if OEM unlock was never set)
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(not sure how that worked if OEM unlock was never set)
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It was said that some of the first Nexus 6s with the original 5.0 came out with a bootloader that didn't check for this switch.