Camera module infrared filter removal - Moto X Q&A

Anyone have detailed info about the rear-facing camera module?
I'm using an XT1060 as a baby monitor and would like to use a cheap LED IR light to provide night vision. The IR filter on the X appears to be weaker than a couple other phones I tried, though still fairly effective.
If it's feasible to tear down the module and remove the IR filter, I'd like to do that. I'm considering buying a replacement module (Amazon/eBay ~$16; can't include link as a n00b) first, before opening the phone.
So far I haven't even been able to positively identify the module manufacturer or model number!
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[Q] Proximity sensor

Hey guys. I have looked around and can find no info on some of the tabs sensors. From what i understand the chipset is straight out of the galaxy s phones, which is the reason i see the existence of a proximity sensor but dont see any data from it.
Anyone have a clue whether it actually exists?
chipset and sensors are different things....even if the chipset supports a certain type of sensor doesn't mean it should be there if there is no need to be there.
galaxy tab doesn't need a proxy sensor cause you are not going to put it beside your face when calling...
triplex76 said:
chipset and sensors are different things....even if the chipset supports a certain type of sensor doesn't mean it should be there if there is no need to be there.
galaxy tab doesn't need a proxy sensor cause you are not going to put it beside your face when calling...
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Doesn't need and doesn't have are different things. Point is, if it was stated that the tab has a proximity sensor, where is it?
I'm pretty sure it has one, in the unofficial CM build Technomancer says he fakes i at 10CM
There is no proximity sensor in Galaxy Tab.
My CM7 sensors driver pretends there is one and reports 10CM distance so the Phone app behaves better.
Thanks mate, that's what you said in the last thread back in October, but why do all the sensor pingers see it? Are they checking code rather than hardware?
Also, is there a working, sensitive light meter anywhere for the tabs ambient light sensor? The couple I've tried refuse to work...
There is working light sensor in the Tab. Both my CM7 and Samsung ROMs support it just fine. It has range from 0 to 6000 Lux snapped to one of several levels in the kernel driver. You can actually read it from sys interface.
The proximity sensor in my CM7 sensors driver is just software reporting constant 10cm to the system. The sensors test apps in my CM7 (I uses Sensor Test and Plot http://www.appbrain.com/app/sensor-test-and-plot/com.golborne.android.SensorTest) just reports 10cm from my fake sensor.
I think there is some leftover code in Samsungs sensors driver that may report presence of proximity sensor.
Yep, i use it as well, but my issue is with the three avaliable states the driver seems to report.
I get 5, 22 and 75. Are there only three levels then? And no way to modify them outside the kernel?
I can get up to 6000lux using strong LED flashlight directly on the sensor.
There is another sys device that can read unprocessed data that has values not snapped to 5,22,75 etc... but Samsung's driver uses the snapped device (and so is mine).
This is very annoying... im trying to make an app that needs a proximity sensor to work as intended so the light sensor as well as the sleep mode implementation are really no substitute.
In any case, im sure it will be quite usefull for all tablet owners running 2.2 and up and using a case. I will have a closed beta for xda members by the end of the day, so people can test it over the weekend.
Would you like a shot, mancer?
I don't know what would you do but if I understand why not to use the g-sensor ... just like in samsung omnia...put backwards enable silent courtesy mode.
the proximity sensor will be useful if you use the leather case to close the screen when touches the screen , like ipad 2 and galaxy tab 10.1 V they have proximity sensors , but i noticed that the sensor exists using sensor applications they see it exists but not giving readings
Hi - there is no sensor, the sensor list showing it is just a glitch from the galaxy s motherboards. And the functionality youre describing is already available in my app Killswitch - you can get both the lite and full version from my signature...
ftgg99 said:
Hi - there is no sensor, the sensor list showing it is just a glitch from the galaxy s motherboards. And the functionality youre describing is already available in my app Killswitch - you can get both the lite and full version from my signature...
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Thanks I already bought it from market and it's great
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Great! Im working on an update that will help improve the accuracy of the light sensor functions... been getting some flack for not updating it
Watch this space!

KIllswitch on Adams with cases

Hi guys, im the developer of Kilsswitch, an app that turn off the screen of your device when the case is closed.
You can find the apps thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988126
Ive been meaning to get some feedback from people using the more obscure devices, so if anyone has the app or participated in the beta a few weeks back, id like to hear about the results!
This is fantastic. I didnt even know I was looking for this. It works exactly as its supposed to. Im using Vegan 5.1.1 and a SwissGear slip case from Walmart.
And as a bonus the Adam's light sensor is perfectly placed to be used a power "button" of sorts. GReat work!
Great! What sensors are you using?
Also, i will release a new version by weeks end which integrates a new function - you will be able to run Killswitch using a day/ night schedule. I know this doesnt sound important, but it is.
ATM Killswitch is a hack - i built it for myself knowing full well that low quality sensors on many devices will have problems registering events in high-sensitivity environments (at night, for example, when ambient light levels can be low in peoples homes) .
My galaxy tab is an engineering sample with an excellent light sensor which works perfectly even when light levels are low, but many consumer products have really weak sensors that cant differentiate between low light levels.
For this reason i always recommend an activation delay of 6+ seconds to ensure redundancy.
With the schedule feature, Killswitch will allow people with weak sensors to disable some functionality at times when they know their sensors are not up to psr.
Any way to provide apk? Market is always flaky on mine.
I'm using the ambient light sensor at 1% sensitivity. I don't think the Adam has a proximity sensor. I don't have a use for the accelerometer sensor as I don't place my device facedown but can confirm that it works, and well I might add.
Full disclosure, I pirated your app to test, but will be buying it tomorrow on payday, for my device and the 3 others that I manage in my family. Thanks for the hard work, this is extremely useful.
Edit: Bought 2 copies so far. 1 for myself and 1 for the wife.
Ah, so a pay for app, I checked and also no demo. I'll try it once there is one, thanks for the effort.
15 minutes is more than enough to try it out - just put your finger over the light sensor!
Ive been considering a demo, but it would have to be seriously restricted or time-limited... hardly a demo.

Lens extends on camera activation and startup

anyone with this otherwise great device will be familiar that upon boot up and camera activation the lens automatically extends.
Sadly, in my case the lens has broken as a result of
1/apps that activate the camera programatically, pushing itsself out of its car cradle physically damaging the lens assembly
2/ Power on lens extension when held in hand like a phone, lens in palm of hand.
I emailed to samsung and suggested they use a proximity sensor ( very common on phones) mounted on the front of the device ( lens side) to check the path the lens will take during extension is clear, or possibly even using data from the focus beam. I suggested that If it cant extend safely then it should not, rather than risk damage to the motors inside the lens. Samsung could actually apply this to all their cameras.
I also suggested the default on power up should be to not activate the camera app, which extends the lens ( after all this is a hybrid device) it may be possible for devs to alter this behaviour ?
It also occurs to me that developers who make device specific apps for this device could win some serious respect if they used the accelerometer Z reading to ensure the camera wont activate when device is lens down/screen up avoiding the lens causing the phone to do pushups which also bends usb connectors.
I know this belongs in the development forums for this device but I can't access them due to having less that 10 posts. Hope someone can add it for me Many apps can activate the camera programatically, it's worthy of consideration as a lens fix costs $200.00 and is not covered by wararanty.
Better yet, if someone could discover a way to make it NOT startup in the camera app. Then the lens would only come out when I actually run the app.
I admire your enthusiasm for making these suggestions to Samsung but they will fall on deaf ears. The simple and certainly quickest solution is put an extra option in settings "Toggle camera on startup ON/OFF"
Done.
it gets worse
yep, that would solve the startup issue but any app can activate the camera programatically, meaning they can start the camera according to any variable, time, location, force etc.
Initial quote to repair was 150.00, but It also now appears the motherboard is damaged, since it is behind the lens, so now the cost to fix is $450.00, just a few dollars short of its replacement cost.
This device can damage its self without you having to touch it.
Pretty serious problem
That's a bit odd. The same thing happened to me more than once but there seems to be some sort of protection against damage as the lens of my camera goes back in after hitting an obstacle (they only need to monitor the current drawn by the zoom motor).
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That's a bit odd. The same thing happened to me more than once but there seems to be some sort of protection against damage as the lens of my camera goes back in after hitting an obstacle (they only need to monitor the current drawn by the zoom motor).
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Interesting, I'm sure that mine does not do that, the motor seems quite strong and pushed as hard as it can, perhaps they rectified it in later versions, I bought mine Christmas 2012 which I assume was the first "model " as such. I get the lens error, but it stays out, only returning when you power it off. funnily enough I'm pretty careful where and how i leave it positioned

Why isn't it possible to replicate Active Display/Moto Actions via an Xposed Module?

Just curious why someone hasn't been able to rip the Active Display or Moto Actions software/code and reproduce it as an xposed module that can be used on other phones. I get that battery drain might be an issue on phones that don't have a secondary processor for handling gestures/movement/etc... but at least to have the option to try it out would be nice?
Is there some reason this hasn't been done successfully?
I'm also very interested in this. AC Display is a good enough replacement for Moto Display, but what about Moto Voice? Only Samsung, LG, Moto, and Nexus seem to have an always on OK Google function (meaning that it works even with the screen off). I would pay for an Xposed module that enabled this on other phones.

Access an OM5640 Camera Chip via USB?

Hi
I use an USB Camera who use an OM5640 Chipset. The Camera have NO IR Filter so IR Light pass truth.
I got an Optical Filter who Filter the Optical Light out and just let the IR Light pass to make IR Images.
Yes Ladys it reveal some secrets *gg*.
Does anyone a Software who allow me to change on the Chipset the maximum resolution and change other Settings?
Thanks
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Yes Ladys it reveal some secrets *gg*.
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I'm not able to assist, as I don't know the hardware etc., however based on the comment above, I don't think I'd want to help either... It's 2019, stop being a hideous human being.
Its this Cam: https://www.delock.de/produkte/S_96371/merkmale.html
Well its not my fault when People wear Cloth who pass IR Light.
I played around just Russian Style and I could see the Stove was white where the Hot Pan was.
So the Cam could see some Waves from the Heat to thats cool!
(Sure its not a thermal cam...)

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